meteorite line, but it is even more, i will say those who have power, it is generated in them, i said, you know , in a geometric progression, and they become not only not controlled, but extremely dangerous and keru and are controlled only by such rigid regimes, and i suspect everyone, and on the other hand, it is a regime of war is a regime of repression that actually leads the country and others, so to speak, even opponents, to great tragedies, and the country is nowhere to be found, sir, general. this means that macron, who spent 100 hours of conversations with putin, is not talking to him in vain, i understand that the west is also afraid of putin's adequacy or inadequacy. because those statements that come from the mouths of putin, lavrov and other heads of the russian state are so half-crazed and they behave like political goblin on the international arena. in the adequacy of putin and they

try to talk to him as a sick person and try in some way to protect themselves from the inadequate actions of an inadequate person, such a service of relations even anglo murphy tried to form just new models of relations with russia to build what akron said later, but this is 15 years ago, a common model of erosive space, so to speak, it is from europe all the way through ukraine as a bridge to russia as kazakhstan all the way to china, there are big silk roads there , five directions of them it was assumed, that is, i thought that they should appease putin at the expense of cooperation in transnational energy relations.

it worked, democratic civilized society works, and in such a situation, he predicted that this person who would like to take everything under himself, control everything, seize all economic and technological resources under his control, and in fact, using nuclear potential and especially the format of militarization, dictate the conditions of the world. that is, it was a big mistake, therefore, in this situation, foreign leaders saw that putin is inadequate in many situations, that even they make decisions, and often there are progressive positive ones, they go down, on the contrary, that is, everything leads to deception. violation of obligations and then it goes to aggression to bribery as we speak on many topics and many even europeans have succumbed to this temptation, how can you gas, for example, she who oil and tell the directions of oil dollars that passed in a different way to become another big project billion that went on this they had, in accordance with how to push back and understood putin, today from his sp

service is lobbying for the interests of the european union in various countries that actually joined this or that program and now to be in the powerful format of lobbies and governments, parliaments, congresses, for example, the bundestag and the like, and this is exactly the format that is hampering aid to ukraine today, and on the other hand, somewhere is just trying to find a model of putin's appeasement, that he, for example, can make some concessions, we can make compromises ukraine must go, but at the expense of how do you clearly say a concession, what kind of concessions, a wing, which only concessions, concessions to the territories to fix the status when some today russia seized and it is clear to prove the future of negotiations about their return, and perhaps 50-50 years, i understood that this format does not work. because already at the expense of aggression, this is practically support for him, all his terms and the fact that they are afraid of him, in fact, support for aggression not

only against ukraine and prompts us to tasks of the territory, and in fact it is the formation of a more powerful one. and this is the psychology of an aggressive policy towards the countries of europe. we also talked about the baltic states and in finland, only a reason must be found, which are joining nato, you say they were already somewhere in the union, they are needed return, they cancel, accordingly, and regulations of the international, which is, accordingly, ukraine is the base segment which will not only put him in place, this is the money, even those who have a condition that he has, and he had a hard time facing a choice or he stops, well, in fact, the regime falls, he is actually suspended influences, whether internal or external , were in fact worthless, and it is possible that he will have some physical problems, the stations, prospects, this is very firm, the question is asked then by almost all participants, but under the influence of i still i am speaking under the influence of specific victories in the donbass and, accordingly, in the east and south of our country, this is the prospect of effective

operational pressure on putin that he left our territories on the other side, then the formation of a new world order with a guarantee of security for ukraine and everything of the world community and clearly define the city of that russia as dismantled as uh not under this regime itself but for this we need to reach a great school a great path that we must go through even the period and military actions that today we are going, but also the unification of the efforts of the leading part of different societies, because if you stand on the forehead and emphasize it, then in fact everything will be taken against ukraine due to its effective actions by putin and france and in germany and in italy, and in turkey in in other countries today, those forces who really see the threat are to be blamed. what kind of aggression are you ready to support ukraine, support in the whole world, the security of the world, this is a very important situation, and the usa and canada

must therefore actively and effectively support ukraine already in practical programs together with britain together with the e-e countries that are today at the forefront of supporting ukraine, this is the provision of missile weapons and design equipment, the features of air defense, radio-autonomous combat, but with a powerful research system, all the guidance systems of russia against ukraine . an aggressive policy and the possibility of carrying out strikes on ukraine, and on the other hand, it creates special strategic operations against russia in order to throw out borders of ukraine i wanted to ask you about one more neighbor of ukraine, and more precisely about the psychotype of another person, oleksandr lukashenko, the self-proclaimed president of belarus, just a few days ago he said that belarus will obviously have to fight for western ukraine so that it is not dragged away by the

west, said lukashenko they still haven't left from the goal of aligning the front so that it passed smolensk skol smolensk bryansk course and there to rostov they need to align the front is redundant he also said that this front or rather the border that exists between belarus and ukraine - it is 1,100 km that this front must be collapsed. well, i understand lukashenka's rhetoric to mean that it means to go from the northern or from their southern front to ukraine. you had enough communication with lukashenka during your time in office. what can you say? about lukashenka , his rhetoric corresponds to his actions, because now he is playing the role of a person who accidentally got into the vortex of the russian-ukrainian war, they say that the russians were on the territory of belarus and then they took it and went to the territory of ukraine although he is already complicit in this russian-ukrainian war or

now his statements indicate that lukashenko is trying in some way to demonstrate to putin that he is also ready with him to enter the russian-ukrainian war or is he still trying to avoid it in some way because he understands that the internal processes in belarus can simply demolish him from the position of the self-proclaimed president of belarus. what do you say about lukashenka? well, i know. personally, i know that the actions of the entourage are also controlled by the force of the bloc, they are directly controlled by the fsb, for example, the ministry of defense and the kgb belarusians and development, well, at the moment, they really often fulfill the tasks of the russian federation, but i know another feature of lukashenka, he tries to impregnate kravchuk. well, they somewhat perceive

participation, but do not get involved in some deep, strong adventures that have prospects or collapse belarus or his displacement personally, that is why he is really under the control of putin. he owes a lot to him that he is in power today, in fact, he performs the tasks that he changed, he can perform and it is clear that putin is pressuring him let's go to the full program, he started military operations, that's why they thought lukashenko's motivation every time came to the point that i have to say so. weapons and weapons, in order to show that you have everything there, in fact, on the other hand, there is already support for the special forces, which they are preparing four battalions of the group, because the other troops are unreliable, as lukashenko thinks, he

in which situation he can carry out an operation to a limited extent, but he is very clearly orientated whether, accordingly, putin wins in the east conditionally and on the spur of the moment, or after all, we stand strong and resist the enemy very actively, and that is why he is waiting for all situations if putin goes, god forbid, with a powerful offensive in the east as well in the south, i am now seizing lukashenko's new territory under the pretext that he declares, and he declares everything for putin, first of all, he would go to protect western ukraine, as if conditionally, it is not clear why he found there, but he came up with another motivation. they they are making up on the go about some forces preparing that some where the terms of the attack were also on belarus on russia. that is, it is all so far-fetched and absurd that they are simply not accepted by anyone. well, it is normal in belarus. i no longer speak there in this world, so in this situation today will be ban what he will do in the near future, he, well, i do not predict why, because there is actually no motivation at all, he is not certain that putin will win completely, and the west

will block putin and will not actually lose, and he foresees a third situation. the main thing is its consequences both political and military, because what is being pushed to the kdb, what is being elected to the special forces of the kdb and the main intelligence directorate, this is only a small part of the military, a large part of which we say is 80,000 army, it fundamentally does not want to fight with ukraine, this is our one hundred percent data and relative to the average from the ranks of officers to colonels and soldiers, respectively, they have no motivation to go to ukraine because they do not know what to defend, why attack their brothers like they do, so in this situation it could be the beginning of the end of the lukashenko regime because the military versus the domestic who will refuse the minimum and the maximum and they will supply the political one there, that is, the consciousness, which was 2 million, rose during the election period when he lost them, and then, accordingly, the object that he is

the president, there is still little left, which is more personal he cannot generate people in this situation and people, as he says, are some kind of self-defense against what and who to go with, therefore, in this situation, the risk is greater for him, and he also makes this argument to putin and tells me such a position as you have 80% support there without fail, but there is a prospect that this will really provoke the fall of the regime and they will not obey at least the military and at most the people will rise up against lukashenko himself, so i predict that he will weigh in . he should not go to war because in this situation the risks are extremely high. tomorrow, june 15, there will be a meeting of representatives of the contact group on defense issues, at which it is planned to discuss the needs of the armed forces of ukraine in weapons and ammunition to counter the full-scale

aggression of the russian federation the so-called rammstein iii group we remember how 40 defense ministers from different countries of the world met a month ago at the naval base of the united states of america in the german rammstein, do you think the attitude of the world and those rammstein members has changed of the rammstein group, it is meant to help the ukrainian state during this time, but the western leaders and the world leaders will still insist that kyiv go to some certain peace agreements or any other steps from the russian federation, because everyone already understands that russia's war against ukraine will have catastrophic consequences for the whole world. well, first of all, all the ministers of defense are accordingly integrated into the

country's political systems, yes, they have a clearer idea of ​​the threats. they have full information, respectively regarding russia's aggression, but they to some extent take into account the positions of the governments in their parliaments and follow the same policy, but in this situation and the law austin is the head of the ministry of defense, respectively of the european union, nato, they are generated for joint actions, and i believe that at the moment at least 40 countries that are presented today in this forum are ready to provide equipment, starting with missile technology and ending with tactical ones, or even for arming specific soldiers, that is, various the approaches will be different, the motivations will be different, and there will be different terms to which they respond, the fact is that the war is really being dragged out by lobbyists who are trying to sway the political sector of european countries, even nato, ukraine to some kind of agreement

they are acting because in this situation what the defense ministers think is necessary urgently. of course they feel it because they asked, as a rule, and their chiefs of staff clearly indicate the prospects of russia's aggression and what is needed in order to neutralize it, so i think that will be clearly defined the schedule for the delivery of weapons, equipment and educators from the dates set for the parliament and governments of all countries, but the ministers of defense will be the lobbyists for these projects and they will act effectively, starting with the e-e missile systems that will be represented in the usa by great britain - this is the first priority that during june and early july was delivered to ukraine, and this is better samples that prevail and hurricanes of death, respectively, and uh, other systems of russia, which today uh which have an infinite amount of missile technology, but this is a higher-generation weaponry, how did

the fifth one win, some among the 6th generation, which will demolish almost all of these shelling attacks because they hit 70 to 80 km ago rammstein will an important factor and for practical implementation, because the political aspect is clear, this is the strategic support of ukraine, there may be nuances, i will directly say in what way some governments make decisions about e-e, for example, the postponement of the terms of the delivery of weapons is negative for ukraine or limiting the number is also a negative, we have it somewhere under the judicial system, we feel that there is a brake on the one hand, under the influence of various lobbyists, on the other hand, we see that the threat is such that if the war unfolds further, and not only in relation to ukraine, there will be problems of spending even for europe's third situation is corrupt politicians who put pressure on their governments, who joined the process today. because putin recovered in terms of not only the state of war, but also the operational actions that

actually influenced these governments in different periods and today are forming precisely it is an indirect position of not supporting ukraine, but rather a softer one, that is, to postpone the deadline for unfulfilled contracts, it will be later. it will be in september. i think that this position is not worthy even of these countries, and the leaders of the countries, especially the minister , should what defenses will gather clearly the position regarding the supply of weapons to exit the armament delivery schedule and in parallel with that i want to emphasize that today we need to send all the forces of our military-industrial complex to armaments we remember that it was a different period another story but the second world war as quickly, in a few weeks, the factories actually refused or moved to other places and gave the products right away , and this is ours, and to complete the program, please forgive us, the time of our broadcast has ended. it was an army general

former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine mykola malamush thank you for participating in the program it was a verdict program about her serhiy rudenko we will meet with you tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. roman tsymbalyuk will be our guest a person who knows about russian politics everything or almost everything wait until dating on april 4, the concert of the ukrainian national radio broadcasting company illegally turned off the digital airwaves ukrainian independent tv channels espresso the fifth and direct tv channels to sign the petition first you need to register, it's very simple go to the website petition.tmu.gov.ua there go to the registration tab and enter all your data, say your

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, nayspresso good evening we are from ukraine i congratulate the usual time for the espresso tv channel to have the program world during the war, i always repeat that this program will be called that as long as the war continues on our territory war but i will return to the usual format immediately after we push the invader beyond his borders to the mokshan beards restore our sovereignty and our territorial integrity and declare victory it will be very soon for sure well but now the world during the war i am talking to my guests enlightenment i am talking to my guests about a ukrainian woman about ukraine, which is part of the civilized part of this world well, obviously i am talking about the war and how we are experiencing this war together with the world well, it will be how i i already said as long as the war lasts, it

won't be long, but today's first guest is volodymyr ogrysko, a diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine from december 2007 to march 2009 , ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine. look at me today, the first question for you will be this. i remember very well how well, a little less than a year ago, i recorded an interview with my teeth on the espresso tv channel, it was timed for the 30th anniversary independence of ukraine and i remember very well that when i asked you about how much time you give to the existence of russia, you said that in 20 10 20 years collective putin and the country that is still called the russian federation will simply come to an end and it will crumble into some small pieces. well i will then completely fall apart. what do you think? what do you think, what russia itself has started in ukraine is

accelerating and the end is accelerating - this is definitely the beginning of the end of russia, according to calculations and estimates, i assumed that the situation remains peaceful, what russia wants the country is wild, but positive. well, to a certain extent , he still understands what war means. well, here i was wrong, i will say frankly, because i did not foresee that russia could go to shurik with a large-scale offensive . specialists of the military who, in fact, and now they confirm it, said that it is impossible to take over ukraine with such forces and such preparation, and in

my assessments i also said that it is possible to enter , but not to leave, but now we see that putin is already alive from here. well, then i have meaning so collectively collective putin and russia will not make it out alive and this process, which objectively should have ended somewhere . would be completely useless to anyone, i mean its energy resources, because the west already, even before the start of the war, announced that by the middle of the 40-30s, it had given up energy resources. and this means, in fact, the end of the russian economy because it is not capable of reformation because corruption has permeated this economy

from uh-five uh-uh to the head uh-huh but now when the war started and when these sanctions are starting to take effect uh-huh in spite of uh-huh we want bigger and more cruel punishment but they are already operating and the russian economy is really starting to uh, well, they were cracking now, but it will crack somewhere at the end of autumn, so uh, well, i think the period has decreased many times, i think that if the situation we have today will remain, hmm well, russia has very little integrity left it's more that after the change of putin's regime , well, such forces as you and i may still come into play, mr.

yuryu. it is a great pity that this historical mission is not ours. well, we didn't want it, but we have to prove it. well, here we will remember the classics. i gave birth to you. well, we know what needs to happen. the only thing i will tell you frankly is what can stand in the way of this process . er, this is the cynicism of the west despite the fact that we receive everything necessary for the water to protect itself in the west. unfortunately, there is still no understanding of what russia is, they do not need it, both the united states of america and britain and collective europe on a very large scale alas, today there are still thoughts that somehow we have to live with russia, it will not go anywhere, it is needed because it

controls there or i there weapons and so on and so on, that is, they are looking for all the excuses why it is not possible to finally do it decisively and properly really the last step is to eliminate this global threat, that's why i'm afraid that in the end we will have something intermediate between what should be done, that is, to come to the elimination of this monster and what actually will be would be his victory. there will be a kind of formation that will probably continue to exist for a certain period of time . and maybe, you know, under the pressure of internal problems and factors, the situation can turn into an uncontrollable scenario, so to speak, because and they wanted to get the soviet union in the west

as long as possible well, he died in god's hands without asking any of those who ruled the west at that time, not from bush the elder, not from mrs. thatcher , he just took yes, yes, and died. so, he can also take timers under well, due to the weight of its own problems , this little empire, which is now called the russian federation. well, i just want to wish that this little empire rests in its some russian god idol as soon as possible and that we become witnesses of this as soon as possible, sir, look, let's move on to another topic this week on the 17th european the commission, well, at least plans to recommend that ukraine be given the status of a candidate for joining the european union there, even though there are certain countries that are against it, denmark, the netherlands, which say that ukraine is not yet mature, we are not european enough for that. i understand

such a general temperature according to the european commission, give us uh, it is more correct to recommend that we give this status from the candidate well, explain now to me and to our viewers the european this scheme. well, it is most likely true, and the temperature in the pan-european chamber seems to be positive for ukraine. and here two things arise, the principle that the european institutions must speak with one voice. means that uh, starting from this thesis uh and logically continuing this chain, we come to the conclusion that the council of europe should also say so uh, otherwise

there will be a problem uh, well, the interaction of these key bodies uh, of the european union, that is, the european commission as an executive body and e-e council of chapters the state of governments, well, actually, as the main one, they should go, so to speak, in the same direction and stick to the same position, but unfortunately, we have, well, at least as of today, there is great uncertainty regarding individual countries of the european union and which ones