further, but you see what they say about not destroying ukraine well, that’s right, listen to it cool because they’ve always said it but we didn’t believe in the west, we didn’t believe. even though they want, they say what they want. and it turned out that this is absolutely a program of actions. well, then, why are we looking at the words of the terbergen table, which has also changed a lot. you see, when they had it before, just two months ago, they began briefings from such too we will not do it we will not do this, we will not do this, we will not do it, if there was no war, then now they say if there was no nuclear war, but we will do this, this, and this, there will be more nato weapons, there will be

more, and the western world actually finances the budget sphere ukraine, and so on, and so on, and something tells me that there in the west, they understand that we would not be offended by our western leaders that they, mmm, slowly supply weapons there or something else, but in the west understood that it is realistic to fight with russia a na today in europe, well, probably only ukraine is capable, although, well, probably still in sweden, finland, well, accordingly, these countries will also immediately shoot at defeat in the event of an attempt to seize it, the poles will fight the baltic countries, and here is romania a-a well, maybe i am somewhere i'm wrong, but there are many countries that, well, those that don't really imagine what it's like, how it's a

real war. so, when shells fly, they destroy houses, kill children, and so on. and so on . e spirit of war, they are still many states. well, that's not it it means that they are worse or er or better well, it just so happened to imagine portugal as a belligerent state, well, i guess there is nothing surprising here, because they did not even participate in the second world war and in general, well, because they peace and evil with the neighbors is to some extent there, spain is there, uh, the ocean, well, um, more or less, that is, when the west began to inform everyone of the real and practical danger from the russian federation, they realized that the banal is cheaper, uh, hmm, to help ukraine survive and in this way they are actually saving themselves

the fact that once before the war the president said that this is not charity, the one who wrote him that phrase or he is the one, that's all, that's for sure, that's right, it's not the validity of the blog, and poland gave 240 tanks, not because we're cool, because it's their safety, because if one of these tanks kills russians on the territory of ukraine, then these russians will not come to poland, and their tanks die in the war, and again, simple math and calculation for them, and they do not risk their people, they only risk the equipment, well , the equipment, tomorrow they already have contracts, they will have uh south american south korean tanks, what two or what are they called there, by the way, about how the russians perceive and what they think about us, we really heard a lot of statements, and i remember a year

ago, this stupid putin's historical article came out about the parallel or where did ukraine go, then medvedev also wrote in september, was it published there under his name, do you remember this publication was not about ukraine, and it really seemed to us that uh, well, they are just bluffing or, let's say, trying to e for their internal audience to show some other reality there, and then it turned out that they really think so and they really hate us and they really think that there is no ukrainian state, there never was, but that's where the russians, well, in the majority or part of the russians, have so much hatred towards the ukrainians, that's how it's clear that there is a tv program propaganda that there are some political statements, but that's all the same. that's why it

sprouted on their soil and continues to sprout. television is not, well, they have been in the practice of brainwashing ukraine for 8 years non-stop on the numbers, fascists , nazis, fascists. and when the question arose, let's do it. and shoot them, in principle, everyone is in favor, but you don't see hatred, it's such a thing... well, it is also divided into two components. you can’t just sit there and think about the fact that nato should be disbanded, and then go to the toilet on the street with this pit, and you can take part in the war with everyone who wants to. to participate in the war becomes

less and less, and this indicates that we are on the right path, you will see that now there is no such paradoxical situation that on the border with ukraine , er, there is an er, meeting of two streams, on one side of ukraine, wounded and corpses of russian soldiers are being transported, and on the other, new meat is eaten, which is eating, look at this one, you understand that a little more and it will go back and they share this information, which they usually do not talk about on television with each other and think well, and then, in principle, the pay is not bad there, how much is 250,000 they offer rubles per month now these are old contracts, but eh hmm hmm life is the same for everyone you see ah how they are a party - this is the great eh as they say and russians are mortal just like

everyone else that's why a- and that is why it actually says that in the situation we are in, if we give up, we ukrainians give up, they just physically destroy everyone here, including children and women, and so on. we all look at mariupol and realize that we don't have to think that mariupol is somehow different from buchi eh? any potential city that they can capture will be the same and they will not ask, they will not be told, what they will just kill. well, once they asked the question, in this way, then well, we all help the armed forces a-a our fables that a-a you know how i recently visited a sniper unit and, well, there was an opportunity to

talk with specialists of a high level, or extremely high level, well, that is, specialists of an all-ukrainian scale in the sniping field, they could obviously have some olympic medals there receive in this matter, but they are killing the russian occupiers like this. i asked one of them, dmytro, his name is dmytro. hello, what do you think about, do you feel when you destroy the occupiers? and the answer was very interesting. we are minus the simple ones, we are doing our job, well, again, let's just talk about it, it's not our choice, i think that we are ukraine, it's big, it's big in many

places, well, it's russian-speaking, well, in some places, we still have some nuances in these churches are to hell with us there i'm sorry. we have scribes. we don't have any big constructions everywhere. the construction was terrible, there were just too many problems , but everyone understands very well that the russians have no place here. and if there are any difficulties and troubles here, it's our difficulties and troubles, and the only thing that should happen to the russians here is death. by the way about how the russians are already reacting and what do they feel in general, because it is very important to record that the film director karen shahnazarov is already talking about the fact that it turns out that such a ukrainian people exists and that in fact there are people who appear in ukraine and this is some kind of ethnic group who has the right to something, and this has already been broadcast on russian television, let 's watch this fragment, because it is very revealing

, in fact, by the way austravent gromy came up with this to say well, you read the classics by chekhov and gogol there it is read but they are somewhere. just such a mega-positionalist because putin talked about austria-hungary and here karen shahnazarov says that it actually turns out to be a people well, maybe at the expense of this television they will finally tell all russians that ukrainians are an unclean friend oe or for them the best argument is lead and 200 what

are they will be received in ukraine serhiy well, as far as i remember, these words were said by shahnazarov about two months ago, that is, it comes out inside the russian company against us, inside the war, as of now, they say what did they understand something there or something else eh, well , there are such thoughts eh, it doesn’t change anything they still solve the main task with the main metal for them is simple destruction of ukrainians, physical destruction of ukrainians, that’s why they understand they don’t understand and it doesn’t matter because in the end all the same, but i will repeat myself, unfortunately, it happened with us that ah, here is a boy sitting on the screen who is showing a ukrainian store. well, it seems to me that he

deserves a bullet between his stupid eyes and this applies all of them a-but in a different way they are not they will understand that the state is a looter, they have come here, all the looters from the rank and file to these are robbing the store , the military command is also robbing elevators, and the higher political leadership wants to steal the territory , well, listen, we are not satisfied, not the first, not the second, not the third category, no hmm, we will not be able to come to an agreement with them you understand, it won't be possible at the moment, so why is it possible that it's not very ethical for a person who has not yet been drafted to military service to talk to me, but if we stop now, let's say so. well , let's talk there. what does that mean?

that the territory that is currently on the way under russian control will be digested. and they will send our children here to kill us in a couple of years, and that is why, taking advantage of the fact that now the whole world is on the ukrainian side and we have unlimited money and weapons , it must be killed so that at a certain stage they when someone offers to say the word ukraine, these veterans immediately approach him, immediately take away the type oh, you fell, you even want to send us again, you don't know what they are, they are reckless, these ukrainians, what are they so reckless that they will immediately shoot, go to them. if you want ukraine, let us be the first and there will be a situation when there will be no love between us. and this is the most important thing , but then when they will treat us

as dauphins to finland. well, look, somehow we will be able to coexist with them. because the question - it's like co-existing with russia, but even now this topic is being discussed there about some good russians. another thing, uh, there are good russians. well, as a physical two, there are decent people, but that doesn't solve the main thing, every russian carrion has to know that she will die here, but as soon as they understand this, everything will be miraculously the war will end. by the way, about good russians and bad ukrainians. i would still like to talk about one more person from the russian political elite, about valentina matvienko, the head of the federation council, let's see how she reacted to an embroidered map of russia, they gave her a present, you know that she was born in shepetit -

in shepetivka, khmelnytskyi region, let's look at the expression on the face of a matveyan woman. to be honest, half of those who are now going to war against us mean the leadership that sends the russian army or has some ukrainian roots or has a ukrainian surname well, as the same kiriyenko , it’s clear that he had ukrainians in his family, eh, the same dmytro cossack, who was born and graduated from school eh in ukraine, where are you from in

new russians because these are people born in ukraine and i call them new russians because they have lost touch with their homeland, where they come from. they have such hatred for all of us. place of birth is not a determining factor here. we have many people who were born in e- e in modern russia on the territory of modern russia, who are absolute warriors and absolute ukrainian patriots and who do everything for the survival of this state. well, it seems to me that everything is very simple. these people were formed and at the time of the collapse of the soviet union , they remained in the russian federation, and then the following happened to them. what happened to everyone, that is, it is determined by his understanding, that's why i would n't talk about the place. listen, i was born in kazakhstan. well, what now? well, with

all due respect to kazakhstan, i don't stand for such stories, especially was within the framework of the soviet union, we have a lot of them. you see, i still do. so when we think about the future of ukraine, i think that in our country it should be based not only on the ethnic composition. our president and nobody can do this in any way, because he is ukraine's most important thing. that's right. it's the same here. well, they stayed there to say that valya is a ukrainian. well, what kind of ukrainian is she? she's a russian. well, she was born in ukraine. well, what is this? we have realities there won't be a story call of the earth er there azov of blood there and so on and so on they play in a team that wants extremely that's why there's no need to why don't even

focus on me let's then focus on good russians because oleksandr nevzorov er gets ukrainian citizenship and er, well, it's a difficult story. i remember the film, i watched this film, which he shot in the early 90s in lithuania, in vilnius. when, hmm, the soviet riot police tried to watch lithuania's aspirations for independence. we remember the clash between the whites of the center and would by the other side of the barricade was lithuania, latvia, estonia, they have a rather negative attitude towards nevzorov, because he was banned from entering, and in general there is a certain history that lithuanians do not want to forget, at the same time, lithuanians are our best, and latvians and estonians are the people who help us in this war because they they understand that if they don't help us, the same

thing can happen to them, that is, russia can these countries, how can they be? well, when there is such a choice, it's a good, already good russian nevzorov, and when there are any relations with these countries, which have a negative attitude to such you know good russians, it seems to me that we pay too much attention to this. well, let's say that in the baltic countries, first of all, this pro-russian column is very, very large, and in this regard, we need to take an example from them to introduce this system not citizens, etc. and so on, this should be done right now, because after the liberation of the ukrainian territories, there are a lot of people who are now arriving with russian passports. people they will say like that are almost citizens of ukraine pochemu same

we have rights and so on, you have no right to anything if you spoke against this state, in fact, this is this moment that limits people to only one thing: the right to participate in elections and politics, if you, as they say, drowned for mordor well, what is democracy in ukraine, this was possible up to and including december 24. yes, dear autumn, you will have a special document. as for the non-standard, i don’t think that it will in any way worsen our relations with the states you mentioned, which are just our playthings which opened for us nato channels, somehow, in a strange way, why do they just bow down to everything? why, i don’t think that this story will change anything in relations, because, well , real politics is like this. the states that we

talked about today are not only the states of nato countries. in the baltics, we are in the same trench of the actual and this will be decisive, and in the part directly of the personality , it is not ideal. it is clear that what skabeeva and putin say is not the truth in the last resort, it is a point of view, and this work is correct, that is, if we look at it, you don't understand, but i said it many times today during the broadcast. and that all russians the occupiers in ukraine must be destroyed, i deliberately repeat this floresa and repeat so that there are no er-er

misunderstandings but maybe we should play even further and explain to the russians that it is not necessary to be the occupiers and if one of them understands that it is not necessary will definitely be an occupier, then we won't need it destroy them and, as a result, lose our people, our er, soldiers, officers, because in a war it does not happen that only the occupiers are killed, unfortunately, it does not happen, but from this point of view, this is history, she has the right to life, and you just have to decide on such moments, there are no good ones russians in their mass need it, it’s just some kind of hearsay for some kind of bullshit. there is a specific person with specific views with these or with others and it doesn’t matter in this case, and our citizenship doesn’t have that much time left on the

air for literally two minutes, i would like to ask if you have doubts about the good russians, who is good, who is not good, and whether there are good taliban, why am i asking because today there is an economic forum in st. petersburg, and the taliban are invited there, by the way, you probably saw the video that this forum was opened by pushilin and mers sankt -petersburg, they fired from some kind of cannon over there from the tsar cannon from some kind of embankment in st. petersburg, well, the economic partners of russia, the dpr, the so-called ibis well, this is an international forum, so i don’t see any contradictions here, but not about this kind of collaboration part let's make it all clear here, the issue will be solved by the armed forces, but it's actually interesting with the taliban. it seems like they can be good if we don't start shooting at russian soldiers and officers.

look, look, once churchill made an agreement with stalin, whom he did not like very much, and in order to defeat nazism well, we are sure that we have to repeat it, but you understood the entrance to my thoughts. but it seems that there are good ones, there are some, especially in the south of turkmenistan, there in tajikistan, in those areas where is based between others are the russian troops who are trying to restrain all of them, yes, let's end our conversation on this optimistic note, natalie bakhmut. thank you , roman, for the conversation. i will remind our viewers that it was a novel. tsymbalyuk is a journalist, please subscribe to his youtube channel, search for roman tsymbalyuk. well, and subscribe to our resources in social networks, to our youtube, facebook, and

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past, a politician, a person who occupied a lot of passat er and in the prosecutor general's office, the prosecutor general's office in the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine, a person who today took up arms and is a defender of our state and is preparing to liberate kherson oblast, the very south of our country . video well, in any case, we will try to hear as much as possible from what can be heard, it is clear that via the internet and starolink as well well, there is also mobile internet, our soldiers are obviously provided for, but in any case, we understand that at the front in the on the battlefield or a copy, the situation is not exactly the same as in the office, it is not at all the same as in the office, so there may be different moments. well, let's try, let's

try to talk to yuri again. make it so that we hear and why is it important to talk at all about the south of our country ? why is it even important to talk about the situation that is there now because this is the territory that we are liberating today maybe not so actively and not so extensively if we wanted to quinoa in any case, there is progress, it’s a shame that the enemy actually managed to enter the south of our country, as they say, on foot, there was a certain defense formed, well, it is clear that there were territorial defense units in kherson, kherson oblast, there were men, boys, women who took it upon themselves this attack of the armada that entered, in fact, without any problems , entered from the territory of the occupied crimea peninsula back in the 14th year, and these people accepted the blows

, they joined the battle, as they say, they did not surrender the south without a fight, but they had little territorial the defense actually could not find weapons and did not issue them well, let's say that in the so-called mandatory park in kherson, 68 territorial defense fighters who were destroyed by the enemy, but who still fought for yuri, there is already a connection. let 's once again we remember, i congratulate you good day i have already stood up for glory to ukraine thank you that you are at the front, we know what we will start well, first of all, how is it? it is already the fourth month of the war, in fact, it continues. how is the mood ? gives you how do you feel so that people who are not fighting now can understand principles, how is it to reserve the state from morning to night and from night to morning every day, well, first of all, i would like to

emphasize that i do not consider myself to be something special, i am part of the 800,000 soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine. so i signed up for the territorial defense, like thousands of other e- e ukrainians on february 24 and became part of the armed forces of ukraine after a month of our stay on the gostomel highway on the outskirts of kyiv, literally in the last curator before the forest-water and the turn to irpin village, we were transferred to the south. and now we are in kherson steppes, i have good news. we can already see with binoculars that it is not a fairy tale. and this means that the armed forces of ukraine, first of all, the 28th brigade is moving forward.