today there is an opportunity in ukraine and a certain transfer of e-e production capacities of both state and private enterprises has been carried out, various locations of ukraine where e-e production has been resumed today, including preparations for the production of ammunition direction, is the information correct that we have close contacts with foreign partners to speed up the process of manufacturing ammunition and there are options when it can be placed not necessarily on the territory of ukraine but outside our country or this is exactly placement outside the country is complicated enough placement outside of ukraine is uncomplicated to date, many countries are ready to place production in their own er, understanding that this, first of all, er gives the opportunity to

create jobs, it is er, a certain development of the economy of these countries this issue is more, i would say that this issue is more relevant to the ministry of strategic industries, which today is responsible for the formation and implementation of state policy in the field of popc. therefore, it more yes, it is more their question whether it is expedient or not expedient for today everything will depend on the events that will develop in the east and south of our country e-e we believe in victory about that we must understand that e-e these events affect not only the possibility of production, but at the same time , according to certain officials of our partners, who are

quite risky and suspiciously looking today at placing a certain production on the territory of ukraine. we lack ammunition, we lack e-e repair capacities for recovery from our destroyed armored vehicles in view of the destruction of e-e repair factories at the base places where they were e-e placed and then we understand that there are specific priorities that must be implemented at the expense of there mutual actions of the ministry of defense, the minister of technology, ukroboronprom, but during those 2-3 months, i communicate with various managers of the enterprise and hear from them that in fact there are some understandable signals from the side of these state bodies and state structures do not come to them, they

decide on their own to reposition their enterprise for their own growth, choose some projects that they finance with their own funds, and then where is the state in terms of priorities and financial support of these priorities, which is then directly dealt with by the minister of technology, ukroboronprom and the ministry of defense, but you can tell us so that we understand where these three structures are pulling our defense industry, first of all, this is a question for these structures, what they are doing. if we take the provisions of the law about mobilization of ukraine, there is such a concept as drawing up an economic plan for the time of hostilities, in which it must be clearly stated where, in what way and how certain enterprises of both the public sector of the economy and the private sector of the economy are moved, to

our great regret happened in those events when the state forgot about the private sector, the moment when an adequate reaction to the relocation of these enterprises was needed, mainly this concerns the private sector, we really encountered a misunderstanding, the enterprises themselves were looking for locations where they could be located , it was quite difficult to agree on the issue with local authorities, it was, well, literally the first month. yes, then it began to stabilize, everyone understood that the location of enterprises allows, including to create jobs precisely in those places where

these enterprises are moving, and indeed, recently, state authorities on the ground have really returned very positively to these issues and it is really very big there is support in the question and placement and provision of e-support and in documentation and well in all aspects related to the placement of our enterprises in other locations, yes, there is such information because it is, relatively speaking, at a horizontal level. i know examples of companies that left kyiv and arrived there, they launched production in western ukraine, and indeed they received support from exactly from local authorities, but when we talk about what is the state structure of the minister of technology, there are certain plans, there is certainly funding and where it should have been some financial support for the relocation of documentation teams, the creation of conditions for the deployment of new capacities, and the creation of conditions

for the deployment of new capacities are determined there in two months , not necessarily even through the prism of state-owned companies, but through the participation of private companies. what is currently happening with the enterprises of the league ? you some kind of general picture without understanding how t-enterprises survive today in conditions of war, what do they hope for and what are the results of this, shall we say, intermediate stage in the formation of our defense industry in conditions of war well, we must understand that there are certain productions that are problematic enough to move and it is very expensive and quite expensive, and the event that needs to be carried out is especially relevant to specialists and the scientific and technical potential of these enterprises to transfer and place people it is very problematic, but

these issues were resolved quickly enough. i will return to the bodies of local state authorities, unfortunately, the first month showed that we did not receive such support from the ministry strategic branches of industry, where indeed there was a certain misunderstanding and we were very well aware that the most important thing was that they did not have the opportunity and financial resources for these measures. a year of such funds for the operational activities of these e-e central bodies of the executive power, unfortunately, was not provided for. we

must understand that this is the ministry of economy and the ministry of strategic industries one more, in my opinion, very important detail that is, there is the fact that we have, well, this is my personal opinion uh, we have a divided industry between uh, the ministries of the economy and the ministry of strategic industries, and this division does not allow today uh to say more precisely who should be responsible for uh enterprises for, including, the private sector that produce products in the interests of the military-industrial complex, including from the military in the interests of the armed forces and other military formations. in

other words, this means that the entire private defense industry remained beyond the attention of the state and the survival of each individual private defense enterprise depends on the persistence of its direct manager and the ability of the ip to take its place in this chain of arms supply. if this fails, then it is simply this area of ​​competence that was associated with this or that enterprise it is just dying, yes, unfortunately, today it is like that. okay. then the question arises that now the ministry of defense directly relies on special exporters that are included in the ministry of defense, and there is an impression that directly into the art of defense, now the main bet is on two directions, this is foreign military equipment that comes in the form of military aid and special exporters who try to meet the needs of the ministry of defense, this is the account of their connections in certain countries, this means that this direction of foreign equipment is on

today dominant for ukrainian realities, this is how it turns out. well, in certain directions, it is a certain direction if we discuss about e-e artillery , reactive systems of salvo fire. it is really so the priority is foreign supply, because, well, we must understand, we must realize that today we cannot produce sufficient quantities, including rzhzvr, if we are already talking about russian products, for example, alder, then we really need to give preference to this means, including the neptune complex, a means of the ministry of defense. i think that our production and procurement are equal and equal here. well, have you been to the meetings of the ministry of defense

lately ? the ministry of the crown of ukraine is now interested in some long-term projects that rely on the competences of ukrainian enterprises. is this so? well, the ministry of defense's policy regarding our defense industry is too optimistic. the ministry of defense should be interested primarily in the quantity, and the main thing is the quality of military equipment to fulfill the tasks at hand. in front of them , e-e, on the contact line in the south and east, first of all, and here it cannot be a priority whether ukrainian production or foreign production, they must this policy should be applied first of all by the ministry of defense, which implements this or that

policy in the field of armaments of military equipment and supplies the armed forces. should be of least interest to the region, in my opinion, it should be of interest to the ministry of strategic industries if they are responsible for the formation and implementation of the state politicians in the sphere of the defense-industrial military-industrial complex so they must conduct that analysis and prove the necessity and the possibility of manufacturing a sufficient quantity of that armament of ukrainian -made military equipment for our military . in my opinion, the key role of the ministry of

strategic industries should play a key role here i.e. the ministry of static industries must take care that the key competences in the defense industry have been preserved so that it is a real sector of the economy where the defense industry manufactures products and creates let's say the conditions for the economic growth of enterprises and added value directly for the country's economy, which is extremely necessary to have, let's say, some kind of support in the conditions of hostilities, if this is ignored, then who is left with only foreign military aid and then a conditional situation arises if the americans are there for us they give a significant number of those m-113 eyebrows. and we cannot ensure the production of fourth-grade helicopters there, then after a certain time we will have british helicopters and american a we will simply forget about btr-4 because no one managed to convey to the system approaches the reanimation of our bronze industry. yes, it turns out that way, we see and the latest statements of even the

countries of our partners indicate that a transition plan is currently being developed the ukrainian army is completely based on the nato models, in terms of weapons and military equipment, we and we must clearly realize that if it were not, no matter what the development of events, and the victory will be only ours, we must realize that we are moving away from the models of the soviet union and we will never return to them again, they have shown their effectiveness, at the same time, we will be the military equipment that is supplied to ukraine today, which significantly exceeds the tactical and technical characteristics of the samples

of the weapons that are in the inventory, absolutely correctly. by the way, this puts forward new requirements for our public and private industry, here i had a conversation with one of my acquaintances who are currently preparing for hostilities, a new structure is being created and they received italian mortars and says that the italian tents are much better and more ergonomically made for humans in comparison to those mortars that our manufacturers tried to promote to the ukrainian army, and we would like to say that our defenders will still have to work hard so that their equipment meets the standard or that level of production that we see in foreign supplies. so, what do you think will significantly cause for our defense industry, this will be a challenge, and we must be clearly aware that only those enterprises that will be able to master the production of the latest models weapons, it is possible that these will be samples and licensed ones, we will buy licenses for the

production of certain samples of weapons, and understand that these samples will also be those enterprises that will be able to apply these standards in their productions, re-equip their production under these standards will really be able to be competitive in the arms market. we must understand that the arms market will be tough enough, it has always been tough, it is tough, and the competition here has a very high ability to regulate and survive one or another enterprises, then in what way, relatively speaking, the war will be such a driver for our defense

industry in relation to certain samples, because when there was a period of 14-18 years, we often talked about the fact that our ukrainian weapons take part in hostilities, they are tested by the war, they will be after that it is good to sell, and then the 22nd year comes, we see that we cannot ensure the mass production of basic models there or tanks there or battleships or others and we see that then the war becomes, relatively speaking, an impetus for the promotion of foreign samples and not ukrainian ones, could you still single out the ukrainian samples that, after the test of war, proved their effectiveness and ability to solve military tasks well on the battlefield, what are the highlights that withstand this test of war? it is capable today and these

examples that we see today that have passed not only the 14th 16th year, but also the 22nd year, we see that really the life of a person is first of all and all after the hostilities ee tough combat clashes and under kiev and in the east of the country, they have withstood and have the smell of strength, and the most important thing is that they are able to save the lives of our soldiers, and this gives us the opportunity to talk about the fact that such equipment was and will be in demand, including well, for example , this is the movement of the enterprise -e cossack armored cars , which is an enterprise that is part of the forest. i think that including the means of unmanned aerial

vehicles fury, they have proven themselves very, very positively, and i think that this is one of those directions that will really be able to provide the opportunity to do certain certain positive dynamics, including in the east of our country, and the most important thing is the preservation of life. hmm, communicating with the military, we see that today uav quadcopters of the appropriate models give our military an opportunity to move forward and see and observe that a picture that gives an opportunity, the most important thing is a gift, i will repeat it is to save the lives of

our soldiers and inflict maximum damage on the enemy . radar, means of electronic warfare, controlled weapons systems, these areas we can continue to develop regardless of whether it will be. let's say so or not. these standards are too much or not enough. a clear understanding of the needs of the ministry of defense, well, yes, yes , yes, yes, these are the directions that you voiced, this is true . you are not one of the most interesting directions that we can really today, there are many, including others directions this and uh, we must not forget about including the life support of our military and there is also the arrival of those who really

manufacture and uh, measures of individual protection uh, even elementary things such as tents and heaters and air conditioners, that's all it is necessary, but there are priorities that must be given today, they are made, they are made, they are made today , it is individual protection, they give, well, it is so , again, this is the life of each and every one of our cities. by the way, the league is really included the enterprise that manufactures barna vests, they also moved to western ukraine , they are trying to expand production and this direction will always be relevant because the number of the army has increased significantly there, if it used to be said there about 250,000, now we are talking about 700, everyone needs a helmet and a reliable body armor and this means that this direction should also be

left to our own defense industry and then foreign competences should be poured in if there are certain materials that we do not have today i think that it should be supported and developed. yes, we should talk about, including, military uniforms, clothes, they should not understand that today is the end of the month of june and we are moving, if it were not until autumn and winter, and today it is necessary to think about providing the military with winter uniforms that were as comfortable and as favorable as possible for the introduction of hostilities, and in this regard, it must be said that today our volunteers are making incredible efforts, and enterprises and the volunteers are doing their best to

provide our military with such means. another question that fell out of the discussion of the places of various structures is the ukroboronprom concern. something like that, they went into the shadow, trying to risk some shareholding reforms and so on. what is your vision of the place of the concert at the current stage of the war? its role and functions, isn't this structure excessive in the conditions when we have to strive to optimize the management system, you are absolutely ready and i will speak in this situation not as an executive the director of the league of defense enterprises, namely as a citizen of ukraine, and in my deep conviction, to date, such a structure as ukroboronprom defense is a setup that absolutely does not fulfill

the role and the place that they should theoretically fulfill today, even in the month of may, reading some messages in the media mass information that ukroboronprom is developing a program for the development of the defense-industrial complex e-e for a certain perspective. it is quite unclear to me why this initiative of ukroboronprom if it has e-e exclusive the competence of the ministry of strategic industries, as ukroboronprom can take part in this, in my opinion, today it is necessary to transfer the enterprises of ukroboronprom to the operational management of the ministry of strategic industries, which made it possible to make certain decisions more quickly, including the

relocation of production locations, the provision of state support to these enterprises well, we still have what we have. yuri is now being talked about the lend lease program that should be provided there the supply of weapons from the united states, but in view of previous experiments, this is actually an opportunity for the development of our own defense industry according to a new format. do we have the opportunity to cooperate with the states in a new way to look at the future of our defense industry and start, let's say, a radical transformation of our pc and the creation of new conditions for the production of military equipment. well, in this case, we must tell the truth . to date, it seems to me that there is such an opportunity for manufacturers of military equipment weapons abroad who will broadcast their

interests, including those of our armed forces and the military, and our military was formed, however , due to the development of certain events in the east, south of the country, well, in other regions . the equipment that our industry is capable of using is a manufacturer of military equipment and weapons, it has a perspective. i think that this is the nearest perspective, but today, as far as i am concerned, it is a very difficult process and to hope for this, well, it will be uh-uh, uh-uh, oriental

opinion, but if we talk about the perspective, then it will really give an opportunity but at the same time, again , we should not lose uh-uh, the private sector, which is engaged in the production of weapons and military equipment, here we must to work out certain mechanisms of public-private partnership, which really made it possible for the state, both the state e-e enterprise and the private enterprise, to unite their efforts and move forward, the last question is your short forecast regarding the state of our of the defense industry of the state-private sector for the coming year 2 everything will depend on the formation and implementation of state policy in the field of the

defense military-industrial complex, namely, from the the main thing is to find that one. and today it is the ministry of strategic industries, which should join forces to conduct an analysis of the use of the analysis of the use of time. it is already running out. it was very interesting. to talk to you in our audience, i will remind the audience that our guest was yury brovchenko, director of the league of defense enterprises, and serhii zgurets, director of the information consulting company defense express, spoke with you. watch us on the espresso channel, the army with strong rears, soldiers need

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