long-standing changes in china's politics, what they called belligerent wolves, the policy of a belligerent wolf. so when the chinese began to openly troll the europeans , sometimes the chinese began to openly troll the union . ukraine is now developing in a rather positive way. because if we had only mr. melnyk's statements or some other horned attacks, then maybe it worked to a much lesser extent. i saw the words of the european parliament robert matsola commented on the visit of eu leaders to ukraine, calling it politically important, which can affect the eu's decision to grant ukraine candidate status, and noted that if we refuse, we would disappoint not only ukrainians, but also ourselves and our union if we closed the door to this brave people well, it sounds really inspiring and i will optimistically remind you that already on june 17, i.e. tomorrow,

ukraine will receive the conclusion of the european commission, which will become a guide for the summit on june 23-24 . candidate status in the eu, what can this conclusion be, and we are constantly discussing on the air the list of ukraine skeptics, what is it currently, mr. serhiy well, as far as i know, it is about the fact that only a small number of states are very skeptical , recently we see significant changes even in the position of germany we know about denmark's criticism of sweden, in particular, on the issue of justice reform, the fight against human rights corruption, but as far as i know, the comments that are now voiced by denmark to sweden are comments that ukraine could have i would like to satisfy them in a short period of time and thus remove the obstacle. we also know about mission a at the council meeting during the

european union summit. i think that it will be easier to convince the skeptics with a positive assessment of both the european parliament and the european commission. thank you serhiy gerasimchuk, deputy executive director council of foreign policy ukrainian prizma was in touch with us right now the following guests of ours are already in touch with us vadym halaychuk people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman to the committee of the verkhovna rada on the integration of ukraine with the eu we congratulate mr. vadim good day and andriy osadchuk people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman of the committee on law enforcement activities of the verkhovna rada of ukraine we congratulate mr. andriyya well, what can ukraine get in the direction of harmonizing its legislation tomorrow? i understand you absolutely correctly, and you know about the various assessment tools of this movement of

ukraine on the way to the organization with the legislation of the european union and according to our and our assessments european colleagues, we have already met about 65% of the obligations under the association agreement, so to date, of course, we understand the challenges facing ukraine, the war, the destroyed economy, many processes, just stopped, which should be so very helpful for the implementation of such a final obligation of ours that we have and it is very nice to see that our european partners have a deep understanding of these challenges that we face, moreover, we are in every way in this they help, including in matters of approximation of

our legislation. i am also co- chairman of the committee of the parliamentary committee of the association with the european parliament, and there we recently had a number of meetings. it was necessary to reach terms on the involvement of european experts, the involvement of ukrainian experts for by various european programs so that special attention could be directed to that legislation, to those bills more precisely, which should be adopted in the first place, we receive help with the translation of regulations and other regulations of the european union in order to make it more convenient to work with them, so to speak. well, in the end, the evaluation itself is also

helped by european experts of those legislative initiatives that we have in the parliament so that they fully correspond to european standards. well, and our obligations under the agreement. therefore, we are optimistic about this process, the possibility of ukraine fulfilling its obligations, and the fact that in this area ukrainian legislation is closer to european legislation. in the near future, we will have even more significant progress, which will ultimately allow us to achieve this goal, first of all, to connect the markets of ukraine and the european union. well, to get closer to full integration into the european union is quite realistic and political. mr. andriy, if

possible, i am also addressing we will remind you of this question that ukraine will be obliged to harmonize its existing national legislation with hundreds of eu regulatory acts of the so-called eu acques from many areas of real law and such key areas as customs labor law, financial services, protection of consumer rights, protection of the environment and much, much more, and what do you think will be the biggest problems, the biggest challenges we will face and how long this process may last in general, the harmonization of national legislation with respect to european legislation thank you for the most part, i agree with everything that vadim says, i will only clarify for the audience so that everyone understands that this is already a rather long process, namely, it began in 2004, when the first laws were passed that determined the procedure for the implementation of ukrainian legislation in response to the legislation of the

european union. in other words, for about 17-18 years, in fact, ukraine has been working on bringing its legislation to eu standards. i think it is quite clear that until 2013 we followed this scheme according to the principle of one step forward two back and some things were done back then but of course this is very little, a huge breakthrough actually happened in the last 8 years, you get used to good things quickly, but believe me ukraine as of today for the summer 2022 and ukraine as of the end of the 13th year, these are two very different ukraines, in fact we have only made progress in the civil service and in deregulation and in the liberalization of markets and, oddly enough, in the law enforcement judicial scheme in the system, i'm sorry, something has been done that is, quite a lot of work has already been done, but definitely the

ball is in our half of the field, the basic things from the homework that we have been repeating for the last 8 years, especially the last three years remain critical, this is something that i haven't gotten tired of for four years my colleagues in the party also repeat, the voice is , of course, the rule of law, the judicial reform will not be done until we ensure the independence of law enforcement agencies and the full effectiveness of anti-corruption agencies, and you can't even dream of any unification of markets. because ensuring justice itself is absolutely fundamental because it makes it possible to protect contracts, protect investments, protect money, i.e., in terms of economic integration into european markets, the key topic was and remains the rule of law, but regarding practical implementation of these reforms, they are very

clear about them, our parliament has been working on them for the last one and a half to two years, and now i think it depends on volodymyr zelenskyi from the office of the president . after all the suffering from the vkks vrp this can all be done, so i hope that this extremely important component of our progress to the european union will be implemented in the near future, because i believe that volodymyr oleksandrovich is also learning and also very he understands well what is important for our partners regarding difficulties, we will have huge difficulties with many basic things, for example, there is such a long-suffering topic as labor legislation , it always makes me happy because the current labor code, by which ukraine still lives and works, was adopted 10 days after my birth and

was born i was in november 1971, it's hard to believe not that i was born in 1971, but that the labor code of ukraine came into effect in 1971. together with stefanchuk, we submitted and passed the law on we removed a lot of such purely soviet nonsense from the legislation, but the very spirit itself, the very letter of the law on the labor rights of workers, in general, all labor legislation, it remains absolutely antique, antique. it all needs to be changed, and it is a huge job. the verkhovna rada is professional populists, if i am not mistaken, a couple of months ago they threw some changes to the labor legislation at us, but i hope we will look for compromises and find a majority in order to solve these the question is different, as an example, it is also a very big topic - it is the administrator, the legislation, the administrative code, it is correct to say the code on administrative offenses, the verkhovna rada shreds almost

every meeting, we add some articles, we add some punishments, it all turns into a kind of kaleidoscope. and the code itself is the same it seems that in 1985 something like this was adopted. and that is, by and large . all administrative legislation must be completely rewritten and a new code of administrative offenses, several convocations of the verkhovna rada discussed this, but so far it has not been successful. i remember when denys monastyrskyi was the head of my committee, he and i talked about it. denys anatoliyovych understood this topic very well. unfortunately, he well, unfortunately , probably fortunately, he now occupies the position of the minister of internal affairs. the topics of administrative legislation are less, there are also some such big topics, but in summary

i can say one thing, i leave it very positive. it looks like we will receive the candidacy. this is an extremely important civilizational choice both for ukraine and for europe . such a thing is important for journalists, such as the statute, such as, for example, the standard bbc. this is a very rough book, but the point is that you can study those standards, we did it as ukrainian journalists since the 90s, the question is different in order for them to start working in this country, what is the matter of the bbc? the whole society was growing, these are the standards , not only the standards of the society of the common speaker, and here it seems to me that it is possible. i read a very

interesting article in the polish press from the founders of the confederation and the leaders of the leviathan federation. these are the ones who unite the polish business, this is powerful people, in fact, and they say that the key reforms for ukraine are to reduce the share of business in the economy, the share of the state in the country's economy , this is to increase, in particular, the level of self-government, the level of decentralization in the country, it is possible this will allow to change the very structure of the fabric - the very fabric of the state, e.e. society itself to change and over time it will allow to change the situation of the legal state, this should be a question to andrii, in fact, you and i started talking about the legislation, but actually the legislation is not enough, there is also the issue of ensuring its implementation in order to get a result. and at the same time, you say simple, in fact, simple solutions do not mean fast, and when i say that it is quite clear

what to do, it does not mean that it is all the same it happens quickly, no one gives you 3,000 judges in a nice package, but now it is quite clear how we can in a clear perspective come to such a state that we have a corps of judges properly selected on the one hand and on the other hand properly controlled this is a completely clear model, so we need to move on. and when you say that maybe there are other priorities, you know , it’s just like this. it would be a discussion if you and i were doing repairs in an apartment and we argued with you about what is more important to install electricity or start screeding. the elements are critically important, there is a certain algorithm of actions, and here it is important that everything is systematically implemented, preferably sequentially and in accordance with, if completely clear algorithms, once again, i am

not because i am a little bit of a lawyer i understand. i've been watching our progress in europe for 30 years and i've been involved in it a lot myself . and i know the mood of european politicians very well , and you mentioned the comments made by holland and denmark there, and believe me, one way or another, everything primarily revolves around the rule of law, absolutely everything is for that reason. in any case, this topic should be promoted under the first number, but this does not in any way mean that other directions should not be done, and i assert that, in principle, ukraine has sufficient resources and human organizational for to implement all the key areas of european integration reforms at the same time and it can be done. i think in a few years there is a need to create the same book, repeating the polish experience, or should such an agency be created, which would actually consist

mostly of representatives of such consultants e-e from the european union and the european union what would actually be the priorities would work closely with the government and actually set tons actually formed this e agent this n- this agenda of these changes which very quickly would be implemented respectively by the government and the parliament. what do you think? well, in fact, it already exists. the institutions were built and developed with the very active involvement of our european partners . with colleagues, our committee is small, only 9 members , and it is clear that it is an exchange of legislation. and this is more than 80% of draft laws that must go through our committee for evaluation on the subject of compliance or non

-compliance with obligations under the agreement, and of course most of them do not apply to our obligations , however, we very actively involve experts from the public sphere in our work, and there are also special programs financed by the european union. for example, the ishin for you session, the association for you program which helps with experts er with translators and they are always quite actively involved in such er extremely important matters. yes, the evaluation of those draft laws that er are registered in the verkhovna rada, which then what er will we need seriously to review in general how we approach the issue of the convergence of our legislation after we have been granted the status of a candidate member country because then there are several

such formally legal stages of further accession negotiations that require more serious such involvement, we know the experience many countries of eastern europe and the baltic countries , where the structure of the same parliamentary committee on issues of the association on cooperation was very seriously changed, so they are in in various countries with the european union, the number of that committee increased multiple times, other committees seconded members of their committee who were involved precisely in the issues of consideration of those draft laws on which they are the main committee that relate specifically to european integration issues, that is, this structure is our existing it will be necessary to strengthen it a little, let’s say so. and as for our foreign partners, they are already doing enough to provide us with

expertise, expert opinions, help with translation, etc., and other such tools are very helpful in the field of approximation of our legislation, where we have literally 30 seconds left for the european thank you, and to mr. andriy, the next question at the end of this block is such a meaningful question, this week the election of the head of the constitutional court took place and none the candidate who reported permanently , the representative of the verkhovna rada in the constitutional court of ukraine, olga sovhyrya, did not receive the required number of judges' votes, the reform of the judiciary , an effective judiciary is actually the most important thing for of ukraine this was noted even a year ago, the europeans talked about it to the prime minister of ukraine denys shumy gal , in particular during the meeting of the council of the association of ukraine in brussels, and andrii, well, what do you think, on july 15, the court should hold re-elections, when we can close the issue with the head of the constitutional

court and will we have a new head of the constitutional court on july 15, first of all the discussions about the constitutional court must understand one thing we managed to save the constitutional court by an absolute miracle because there were a lot of emotions , there were a lot of problems, all these dead ends and then president zelenskyi was pushed to take completely insane steps, such as the dissolution of the constitutional court, the decision of the verkhovna rada, president zelenskyi announced competitions for vacancies that were actually still filled, which created huge legal risks for the legitimacy of the constitutional court, but with god's help and the help of certain professionals who were involved in this process, now it is critically important to recognize that the constitutional court is absolutely legitimate and is in an absolutely dark procedure for choosing its leader. i think that they have gathered there there are more or less decent people, there are very professional and

very decent people, and therefore it is necessary to be normal to the fact that they could not choose the first time, which means there is competition, which means there is no opinion, and that is why i have no doubt that they will choose a leader for the parliament and for the president the task remains to change the selection procedure of andrii osadchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on law enforcement, and vadym holoichuk, people's deputy of ukraine and first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on the integration of ukraine with the eu right now the next guest of our heteros contact me oleksandr pavlichenko executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights congratulations mr. oleksandr questions everyone have a safe day thank you except khan is working in ukraine today eh and actually e-e meets e-e prosecutor of the international criminal court e-e with e-e

prosecutor general of ukraine iryna venediktova together they visited kharkiv e looked at these crimes committed by the russian army in ukraine - this is the third visit of the prosecutor of the international criminal court to ukraine, the investigators are actually working, the prosecutors are working, e.e., in kharkiv, they inspected the houses of severnaya saltivka, the city center, shevchenkivskyi district, where a father and his five-month-old son were killed as a result of shelling on may 26, what do you, mr. oleksandr, expect from the work of international investigators in what are the results of these visits to ukraine ?

we will see this tribunal, we will see the work of the international criminal court and the work of the prosecutors and investigators of this body, and accordingly, this is, if for the entire ukrainian context and for the international context, a legal consolidation of the not at the national level, but at the international level. and today we must understand that there is a recording and investigation of all facts of war crimes or crimes against humanity, these are exactly these two categories what matters the

international criminal court is authorized to consider the events taking place in ukraine, and these facts must be properly confirmed and qualified, and then the question will arise regarding the prosecution of those guilty of crimes that will be the object of the investigation . and during the meeting with mr. karim khan, the question was raised about the number of episodes that will become the object of the investigation, we know that there will be very few of them, but they must be qualitatively qualified and properly examined and confirmed so that there was no doubt that this is indeed a war crime, we know that what happened in buch is one term we define this entire

conglomerate of the irpin, gostomel, motyzhyn, andriivka and other settlements of the kyiv region where atrocities were actually committed qualify as war crimes, crimes against humanity, this is like one big episode that will contain hundreds of confirmed facts and specific criminal investigations that ukrainian investigative prosecutors will not be able to because of the impossibility of proving them or prosecuting the guilty, investigating to the end , will be transferred to the international criminal court, which will be authorized to further consider and support, let's say, the adoption of a decision on these war crimes, and i think that at least will be in

mariupol as the second specific case, and i hope that there will not be more such grave tragedies in our country. and places with a concentration of crimes, but here is a trip to kharkiv region, and here is also a saltivka, which in fact now received such, you know, allegorical the name is the second one, but this city, part of the city was destroyed , destroyed, and this is the scorched earth tactic used by the russian aggressors, actually , it is also a confirmed fact of a war crime, oleksandr, we only have a minute , i ask you, we talked a lot about the liberation, it is doubtful from a legal point of view, ms. denisova of the ombudsman, but let's talk about something else. what's next, how is it supposed to be, when will the bootsman appear on the basis, what should be the procedure for his appointment, that he was independent, uh, in short

so i think that we should take several steps before appointing the verkhovna rada's human rights commissioner, the first thing is to return the situation to the legal field from which it was taken, because no matter who the verkhovna rada appoints now, it will be a dependent person because she it will be looked back at the end if the president or the chairman of the verkhovna rada says that something, some saying was incorrect or some action was incorrect with the authorized person. that is, it will not be an independent person, and independence is a key factor and the basis of the work of this institution. accordingly, without returning to this right field, the election procedure will simply be the installation of some , well, let's say so, doll that will fulfill the will of those who installed it, practically they are a protege who will not be an independent representative, this is a problem and that's why we follow

this process come on, i still can't tell you what this will have negative, then some effective consequence , good. thank you, for now, let's put here who, conditionally speaking, we will definitely continue this topic oleksandr pavlichenko, executive director of the ukrainian helsinki union for human rights because