or to redefine these things of groping and groping and eye to eye when the first persons give each other a word of guarantee and so after these things then agreements are made and then i understand that after the negotiations this joint uh-uh already a joint speech indicates that they have found common points touch, who say that ukraine will be accepted into the european union , despite the fact that, note, today dynamo is the aid machine for ukraine, the united states and great britain, which are, relatively speaking, minimal competitors on the european plane it is no secret of the european union that brexit is still not completed and the relations between britain and the european union are quite complicated. this visit was a

confirmation of yes or no how many we will accept here and what will be the final version of the document in which it will be said that we accept you as a candidate and this but how big will it be and let's say deep in order for you to become a member one day, yes, please. because in fact the candidacy gave poland what we are now trying to constantly compare ourselves with them. well, turkey is also a candidate. and this is access to key resources. the situation with turkey is radically different from turkey's side. it could have been a member several times, but refused because it would not violate its interests. again, there is no competition on the european and bridgehead at the moment, especially in the security topic, because security the forces are all the same in terms of economy, everyone is here. i completely agree

. the second strategic one is practically about sanctions , in fact there are a lot of russians and businesses that work with russia are still russian and still work with russia and here and there on the one hand we have to show leadership because in this case we are mostly engaged in such a struggle in the style of national geographies, you know. we are so far we arrest but do not charge to the budget. because the first issue, which mr. taras very reasonably spoke about, is not a bypass to stabilize the economy, it is necessary to find funds, and in part we have these funds, we have huge funds, more than 28,000 objects have already been found which directly or indirectly belong to the russians, they just need to be charged to the budget and show the european union and the united

states that it can be done, because now in all countries there is a freezing procedure, but there is no procedure for charging the budget as such here, we have to be leaders and secondly - this is strategic, in fact, and now there is such a strange rhetoric of the restoration of ukraine. i think that our armed forces are fighting so that ukraine does not recover, and ukraine actually becomes what it should be, so that this list a-ah compliance with the european standard was as small as possible by our efforts and not because someone from us is demanding something, but the only thing is that we really wanted to congratulate and this visit clearly showed that the russian narratives, which are very easy to see through to us , and remember the skeptics about the fact that it will take place about the skepticism that the big players support european integration. he lashed out again from the same source from which you can now hear

a warrior in the moscow swamps about how they came and nothing happened, in fact, russia was doing everything to this visit did not take place, russia threw everything out, highlighting the fact that macron is talking to putin . yes, scholz is quite restrained in many issues. oksana, i completely agree that if politics were decided purely by pragmatics, it is unlikely that we would have a candidacy from which we will definitely take advantage, but taking into account the fact that the heroism of the ukrainian armed forces and that the most important heroism of the ukrainian people actually ignited the europeans, and here it is worth it is necessary to give due credit to the very successful tactics of communication and the leadership of the ukrainian state, because communication is conducted not only with the eyes, as it is accepted

, so behind the scenes, first persons with first persons, constant appeals, constant communication with parliaments, constant speeches at large events where you can appeal to the citizens of europe, and that is why i am much more optimistic than i was even a week ago regarding the application. yes, we still have a lot to do, but the most important thing is a tactical victory, a huge tactical victory for ukraine, that this visit took place, the final speeches were very clear, with a guarantee that only ukraine would determine the terms of peace, no incitement to a cease-fire, and this is completely understood by the ukrainian authorities, first of all , ukrainian society will be, in fact, which sanctified with his blood what is happening will determine the conditions of peace and ukrainian

leaders have been talking about this for a long time and the second is a mandatory full-fledged candidacy at the moment and in ukrainian realities i think we will not repeat turkey's mistakes playing between authoritarianism and democracy, and we will make the most of the fact that there are no brexits, opposition to the british model, the continental model, but the vast majority of ukrainians are forced immigrants to them in the countries of the european union, and soon ukraine will be the center of europe, not only geographically, but also in fact, this is important, we add to oleksiy danilov, secretary of the national security council, and the turnover for our broadcast. thank you for taking the time, mr. oleksiy. well, the first question for you is that yesterday the so-called rammstein 3 took place today are the visits of the european leaders of the head of romania, who is responsible for the eastern e flank, the date

is right here near us, what are you for yourself and for the ukrainian people in general, the results of these decisions regarding the provision of rammstein weapons well, and today’s statements hm in particular and macron in particular and that’s what it’s all about that if ukraine is going to achieve peace, then only on its own terms, because a lot of ukrainians were worried about something before this visit, well, i don't understand what the ukrainians were worried about. i think that we have already proven in all our stories that we can be ruled it is impossible and it is impossible to give us instructions. if you remember very well 2003 and the fourth year, when there were attempts to tell us how it should be . the second example that can be given is in the 13-14th year, do you remember when someone went to the sidelines about something, negotiated about some positions, about some things there, but the people who were on the maidan when they

resisted all this, they said that we will decide the lines ourselves, that's why and now when someone is trying to say something that supposedly the germans or the french or coalitions or someone else will have an attempt to force us to do some things, then it does not make any sense let's say it makes no sense because it can be done with our nation with our nation let's say it is possible with the russians they are such polite people there, they can immediately obey their king, their leaders there, our people are free, and we have repeatedly proven this, and it will be as it will be decided by the people of our country, not those people who would like us to do something, even they can do something out of good will offer, i can confirm this, and to this day, attention to our country does not stop. as for the events that would have taken place yesterday, but those that took place today, i think that in the coming days there will be powerful events, you will all see them. with your own eyes, our country is independent and invincible in so, together

with our partners, we will move towards victory, mr. danilov, and i quote you, ukraine will go on the counteroffensive as soon as there is parity in heavy weapons a-a when can it happen, when do we expect this parity er-e as you said, we can have everyone it doesn't stop during the day or at night, but i can say that yesterday some people started making fun of the fact that they don't give enough, i can say that there is a part that is public and there is a part that is not public on many issues, especially what concerns the provision of weapons to our weapons, it happens every day and you can see that the situation is completely different than it was in march, they had it in april,

or even than it was in may. uh means of impressing the enemy, these are already nato standards, this is already a completely different weapon, and it must be mastered, and i can say. i remember my speech when i suggested that everyone should learn english now. there is a little bit of a problem with this, because the vast majority of software what is there? it is in english. they don't have time to translate it into our native language, so there are certain problems, but this does not hinder our boys. they are very, very powerful. mandatory will take place. i would like to comment not a little about others. when, where and how the counteroffensive should take place, it is up to

the armed forces to decide. it is up to the leadership of the armed forces. in some way who where and how should let's say attack what should i do what actions should i take and leave come in such other dear friends dear viewers we have the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine we have the general staff we have our military which have already proven many times that we can rely on them, we can trust them, and they definitely do not bow down to us. after february 24, we proved to the whole world that we are a nation, that we are invincible, i remember how until the month of february, almost on the 15th, then they all left kyiv almost every day, i had a meeting and they told us that 3-57-10 days and all that, they said such terrible things, which consisted of four things, firstly, that we will have concentration camps here the second is that we will have filtration camps here, the third will be destroyed all the way up

the political leadership of the state, you need to think about this, because you have almost no ability to defeat such an enemy, russia, we objected at all meetings, we explained to them that it would be impossible because we have our own weapons, and when they calculate, relatively speaking, kant on a tank, there is an airplane on an airplane. i told them that this is a false thing, because no one counts personally, especially when it comes to us, our nation, which has repeatedly proven that we can even with naked years go out against the enemy, as it happened repeatedly we understand that a lot of information during the war can be classified, but in particular, you said that before the start of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, many people, as you said, talked about the fact that ukraine would not hold out for a long time. well, very little time, if you can say it now. countries we did not have

a single country that believed that we would withstand the whole situation, no other matter that some gave there three days, 5 days itself let's put it this way: optimistic it was 21 days, including the cities of the lion with whom you are currently conducting the program, and i explained to them all that they will not take even kyiv, so they gave us information about the number of such others. works every day we see where they are increasing, in what way they are increasing, the only thing was 12 such unpleasant, let's say, things when we did not expect at least from the belarusians that this would be their behavior and this would be the use of their territory to attack our ukraine. well, and several others nuances about which everyone probably already knows in our studio, we also have a question for you, please yaroslav yurchyshyn oleg synyutka for his own work now at the nsdc, in addition, powers are added that, in

principle, did not exist before the war, this is quite logical. i mean this is the formation of a list of subordinates of the so-called collaborators and why is the stage of formation of this list important because in the future , according to the new law adopted and signed by the president, the ministry of justice has the ability to seize property through the higher anti-corruption court in the budget and direct it directly to the needs of the armed forces or reconstruction, i have a question , at what stage is the formation of this list actually now, or well, almost a month has passed since the president signed the bill, did the cabinet of ministers complete the analytical work, and handed it over to the nsdc for data, or when is it planned if this can be said at the same time for consideration of this issue. i want to note that we are talking about the law 71-94, you are right, it has been in operation for a month, there is not only

the cabinet of ministers, there are five subjects under submission to the rainbow defense security apparatus so that we can prepare it for the meeting of the security and defense council. this proposal is the cabinet of ministers and the verkhovna rada of ukraine, the national security service of ukraine, the president of our country. nazk did a great job, it's not their job, but novikov did a great job there, he handed over the materials and to date they are being processed by all the relevant bodies . i think that in the near future you will see all this the security and defense council of the united states has been working as usual since february 24, but since february 24, i have not been stopped for a single minute. everyone has worked out all the relevant measures in accordance with our constitution . there is too much legislation in the field in which we work. i think that in the near future you and i will see all the enterprises that are physically and legally the only thing i

wanted to note is that you are talking about 28,000 physical and legal persons, well, there is a little bit here, this is not a completely correct figure, and some public associations are also included here, and there are many others there are church parishes and others, let's say yes to the constitution, then i think that it will be a little less, but not much less. novikov prepared today approximately 15,000, but each one must undergo verification under each one there must be a database why because if we are talking about the removal we have an understanding. we should not clash, let's say so, on the lawsuit that will be in the courts of europe, we have to be polite and comply. russia can't do it here either, that's why very powerful work is going on now in almost every institution and the security service and the cabinet are working of ministers and the national bank, which by the way, you already

know, made the first two banks. let's just say that the procedure already came, but a little earlier, not according to this law, but they already went through this procedure. question from oleg oleksiy vyacheslavovych. i would like to thank you because you are probably the first high-ranking official who clearly stated that those who were involved in demining chongar before taking it without resistance during one day of kherson will be brought to justice and that the heads of the security service, prosecutors of the southern regions of ukraine are already in the status suspects says that the system will definitely detect kremlin moles and your position is very correct that today it is impossible to break the unity that these things after our victory i am convinced will become an object for everyone but the danger is whether it will happen that those moles that i am convinced that these russian

special operations are still in the armed forces of ukraine in the special services in other structures and may be involved in new sabotage. you know my position on this matter. it has always been open and frank. i said, but now i can repeat that, unfortunately, we made a big mistake in 1991, when we the security service of ukraine simply changed the name , it used to be the kgb, and then it became the security service of ukraine, it was the first such, very difficult for us and not a very useful step for the state, because today the system is working, we have one journalistic field from the russian federation and, unfortunately, there are still many of them here, but believe me, i think that everyone will be held accountable for what they did against our state. is going about uh, it’s not only medvedchuk or some others who were conventionally speaking on the surface, there are those who

today are vyshyvankas who today are starting to communicate with us in our native language, they are repainting, this is precisely the dangerous people of their time. let’s say this is the promotion of russian tried presidents on the territory of our country and now they are repainted, now they are starting to do things today already at the front i saw there, uh, the video begins with these people, well, these people are dangerous, you know how open they are, what we we understand that there are many people who were in kharkiv. they were there in kyiv, they were, as they say, on the surface, but also those who today wear our national clothes are chosen to communicate so politely on all channels it may appear, er, they make some statements, the semi-official auditor already in society must consider that these are official statements, these people are the most dangerous for our country, because when the situation changes, god forbid, believe me, they

will all be there oh, that's what i don't i perceive in general in life when people start to repaint, you have a position to keep it, then you 're all right. and here's the situation, that's what concerns the military, what concerns people who would be called, look at me, i'm starting from the position that in the modern world you can't hide anything, full stop it was simply impossible, it could be hidden conditionally another 30-40-50 years, but now there is a new society, new technology, but he let's say this, communications, you can't hide anything today, it 's a very simple thing, i called it, there is a situation, we understand who stayed in kyiv, and who on the 24th they say quickly, quickly, in the car and went to track those people very simply, they are tracked with the help of the devices they take with them, this is a technical, very, very

simple thing, we understand who was somewhere. on the fifth the seventh day these days were decisive for our country and when we endured these 5-7 days when we gave resistance and it was very difficult i can tell you this one secret the military was given full let's say this the freedom of action of the names, no one gave any instructions. so we relied on them. so they achieved a perfect result together with our entire population, our citizens. you answer the ukrainian language in russian because you do not understand it despite the fact that you were the mayor of luhansk. but i have a question of the following nature, that is, how do you mentioned the city of lviv, and we are in lviv, eh. how far are you? well, maybe the question is more for the intelligence of the ministry of defense. guru how far do you currently assess the petitioner's future danger ? in the context of the latest statements of the brest direction, the president of belarus, oleksandr

lukashenka, said a lot of things, but now that's what he said. he said that it's possible. we'll have to fight for western ukraine again. maneuvers are ready but maybe she was addressed in the fact that she is what steps we should take to get ahead of us, etc. the russian federation is already ready to conclude a peace treaty with ukraine as soon as possible, as it concerns the e-e direction from belarus . we don't give information when they come at a certain time, what is the agenda, but taking into account your question, i can say that yesterday the president gathered the stake and

talked about exactly this issue, the issue of belarus all our bodies that are related to this gave an assessment of what is happening there, what is the state of the troops of belarus today, how many troops of the russian federation are there, what are the plans, all of this is under the control of our president, and yesterday, precisely on this occasion, the rate worked for quite a long time, i believe that it is quite effective in as a result, there is an assignment, now there will be an inspection of four areas of the state, let's say, preparation in the case of uh, if there will be repeated such uh calls for our country, that's all, that's all it is worked out every day, i emphasize once again we have a lot of closed work about which we do not report to society, it is not public, but this work continues and, believe me, we understand what is happening in belarus, we understand what is happening in the russian federation, what patroshok says today that they need urgently c us to sign an agreement, look at the agreement on russian terms

, you and i cannot sign and we will not, because let's put it this way, there are not some who are willing . well, i don't really like her because internal political problems, let's be frank, can have their own let's put it this way, we have an opinion on many processes, we have an understanding of what we should do , and here we have to rely first of all on ourselves, so i wanted to draw attention to the fact that we rely on ourselves and we are moving towards victory in common ranks, the most important thing for us is that what putin wants to do today does not happen to us. this is internal destabilization. without internal stabilization, it is impossible to defeat us. and for them, this is question number alone and they are engaged in this in almost all areas of our activities, this is a dangerous thing for us, i called on everyone, i call on unity, so that we do not quarrel now, do not find out the relationship of the people , the time will come and everything will fall into place, what

concerns the statement of russians, it is possible vlast patroshev's statement that it is necessary to sign as soon as possible , he can sign by himself, i would like to draw attention to the second, to the two figures of our time, who are there today, the last name of one of them is medvedeev, and who says that in two years our country will not exist at all well, i don't know how what he imagines there, look, we existed before they existed and we already existed we walked on our steppes we walked on our land and we will do it in the future such people who , relatively speaking, have nothing to do with the military issue, they give us these or other uh terms, that's for us, for our existence, well, it can't be like that, because i emphasize once again we are different, that's why we are separate let's say so, the people are in sometimes some people surround us. well, i think that everything will be fine after this war

in this city, at least the germans will stop thinking that we are russians, mr. danilov . thank you very much for your answers to the questions that were raised in our studio, oleksiy danilov , secretary of the national security council, was with us via skype, and for taking the time, we are waiting for you on our broadcasts in the future. a word to oleg, you have already asked questions in ours on our air, but here are the results that you saw in particular in rammstein number three and in today's visit and we are already calling the military from the front line myroslav vatkovych myroslav you as our colleague we apologize that we make you wait but maybe just give up with danilov, the conversation dragged on, but in the end it's secretary rambo, not a leather movie, it should be everything , i would like to address our tv viewers, then those 27% who voted today for an armistice with

russia and muscovy, i understand that these people are probably very strong. like all ukrainians, they want the end of the war, they want peace, but i want to convince you again and again that a truce with russia is actually an even bigger and bloodier war with the aggressor, because a truce is impossible with them, we can only win and we can only drive this horde back to where it crawled onto our land , so when you hear the word truce, do not deceive yourself and do not deceive others. this is not a truce, it would be the beginning of an even more bloody war . today we can talk about negotiations about the negotiations, how to return our prisoners of war about the negotiations, as soon as possible, the brainless should leave our land without a fight. we cannot

talk about the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the state during the negotiations, not during the negotiations talk about our european choices. we can't talk about ukraine's participation in nato at the talks, we can talk about what interests ukraine and ukrainians at the talks, but it's definitely not a truce, and ukraine received two very significant events this week, two very significant signals: ramstein to brussels and this is the visit of four european presidents, among whom are definitely the leaders of the european union, to kyiv and their meetings in ukraine with president zelensky firstly rammstein brussels - it was already below it was a face-to-face meeting and it was face-to-face a meeting of representatives of not a few states, but fifty world states, directed their defense ministers to defeat the

muscovites together with ukraine, and let's be honest, 50 countries, among which there are some of the strongest countries in the world, can not lose this war, so ukraine will definitely not lose this war, the only question is how quickly we will win it and we have to pay the lowest possible price with human life for our victory, because the 50 countries that today make up the majority of the civilized world will never lose to the brainiacs ordinians, on the contrary, we will put them in their place, and the second is the visit of european leaders. the decision that

will take place on june 23-24, at which the heads of state of the 27 european union states will consider the issue of granting ukraine an application, the members of the european union today cannot spoil this decision eurosceptics are not those who are among european leaders today. they may still doubt today. they can spoil this decision only in ukraine with stupid statements, stupid decisions, stupid votes. more precisely, by fulfilling the will of moscow, because candidacy is not a symbol, it is access to