well, i am very careful in my statements, but i am convinced that this visit and this press conference are a prelude to tomorrow's decision of the european commission , tomorrow's conclusion of the european commission regarding ukraine's application to become a member of the european union, and a preliminary decision that will take place on june 23-24, at which the heads of state of the 27 countries of the european union will to consider the issue of granting ukraine an application, the members of the european union today can spoil this decision, not the eurosceptics, not those who are among the european leaders today. perhaps they still have doubts today, this decision can be spoiled only in ukraine with stupid statements, stupid decisions , stupid votes, and more precisely, by fulfilling the will of moscow, because candidacy is not a symbol, it is access to greatness and financial resources, it is access

to huge opportunities, it is bringing us closer not only to the european union, it is bringing us closer to nato, and that is why i would very much pray to god today that he would give wisdom to ukrainian politicians not to suggest something during these next eight days that would spoil ukraine 's path to candidacy, because after this 28-29 june madrid nato and after the application. we should definitely say, firstly, about ukraine's participation in the nato strategy, and secondly, about ukraine's participation and providing ukraine with an action plan for nato membership, and this step, which will take place already within the next week, is extremely important, but this step is impossible without two things, the first thing is the unity of ukrainian society there is no opposition power today there are those who are for ukraine and those who are against ukraine and

this unity is the basis of our decisions and the second is the support of the armed forces of ukraine we have no right to senselessly lose a single soldier. we have no right to suffer those losses that do not give us the opportunity to return our land and our territorial integrity and the issue of the military to make a decision regarding severodonetsk, but believe me that if we make a decision today, we must first of all value the life of a soldier and then - the second is true. we must prepare to use the weapons that nato gives us to go on a counteroffensive and liberate our land, so i am very cautious, but i am definitely optimistic today because ramstein is in brussels and the visit of four presidents in kyiv gives all the reasons for ukrainian optimism and for the ukrainian victory, we include myrosla, a

serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. myroslav. good evening, our fellow journalist, as you know, there is no honor for former journalists, even when they are at the front, we will talk about the north, northeast, if possible. tell kharkiv region izyum, what is happening there in your opinion, because we know the difficult situation. there are shelling of kharkiv again, although this had not happened for several weeks before that. well, here's zumi the russians are trying to go down the map, so to speak, in order to create problems for the armed forces of ukraine in luhansk region and donetsk region, your comment, your details. good evening, colleague. valuing the life of a soldier is very nice to hear that because in fact it is very important because heroism at the front is very good but we don't want to we don't want to be

heroes we want to be professionals who do their job under certain uh correct conditions and tasks that the command sets before us. if we talk about the situation in kharkiv oblast, we can now say that there are certain threatening trends because the russians have increased their reserves and where there was a gray zone where there were settlements that were changing hands. now they are eh, they are reliably starting to establish themselves in relation to the shelling of kharkiv, look, it is surely clear to everyone that the shelling can be different from different firing systems. if earlier the front line was much further north, only eh calibers could reach there or er, the rszvr of the volley fire system, now you see the map has gone a little further south and, accordingly

, barrel artillery is starting to work again in kharkov, this means that the intensity of shelling is increasing and, god forbid, the line will shift even further south, accordingly, the entrance can go eh 120 mm eh it is already a distance of approximately 10 km from kharkiv , if it happens and then it will be quite sad, therefore it is very important now to provide ukraine with these weapons, which are being agreed upon, i will not speak at the level of the general staff, because i would only point out a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, i can tell you about one of my last combat missions. we worked in the gray zone just to the north and kharkiv was under quite heavy fire. and what can i say that for approximately 1-2 shots of ukrainian artillery, there are five up to 10 shots from the russian side, that's why this

one information, these crumbs, which are now being given to us regarding new weapons, already information about 20 155-millimeter howitzers from e-e britain plus generous france, six more caesars gives us this everything is out of the world by a thread but maybe somehow we will be able to establish parity on the line of contact because if there is no parity, we simply will not be able to raise our heads from the trench under those artillery fire to reliably defend ukrainian territory or, on the contrary, to counter-attack , because the task in fact, there is the liberation of ukrainian territories, therefore, in kharkiv oblast, i can talk about the north of kharkiv oblast, the situation in kharkiv is very reliably

fortified. it was safe here, everything is okay, no panicky moods, kharkiv will definitely not be taken, it is important now to make sure that kharkiv stops being shelled with impunity every day, with human casualties we talked to you when everything just started and you personally were on vacation returning home or all the time there now i have the opportunity to return tomorrow to my position now i am talking to you before the train i was uh a five-day vacation is not a vacation. and i'm on a business trip , er, in kyiv, but there's no talk of a rotation yet. hmm, we're in a good mood, er, despite all the nuances that

may arise, despite er, all the difficulties that may be here at the front. everything is fine, i will tell you that if necessary, when there are needs, we turn to volunteers, and here a very important thing is played by the rear. we feel tremendous support from all the people who can not be on the front lines now but perform their professional duties in the rear and help the front there can be no despondency, there can be no doubts about the victory, there can only be a question of the price of this victory and this is precisely the procrastination that europe demonstrates, the decisions they make, they make them in the right direction, and the ukrainian authorities call on them to take the right steps, but all this happens significantly er, late because

er, today our losses were already made public at the official level. these are colossal numbers, and i can tell you that i saw it with my own eyes and these numbers correspond to reality. therefore, it is necessary as much as possible it is faster to make sure that there is parity at the front, first of all we are talking about artillery because this war is a competition of duels of artillery calculations , indeed i was in kharkov in april and even then i said that it was impossible to take kharkov and because the fortifications in march and in half of april were already built quite serious and probably the most important thing is because the people of kharkiv themselves on february 24 became completely different from what they were even on

february 23. and it was just noticeable, many, many people were talking about it, i hope that such they were preserved even after a month and a half when i was not there, but i would like to ask you if you feel, because we see that the amount of equipment is still coming to ukraine, it is increasing significantly, military aid is increasing significantly, do you feel this increase and opportunities on the front lines and the aid that is coming from nato countries today, i cannot say in detail what i see, what is happening in our country. provision of this or that weapon, this message may appear in the information space already when in fact this weapon is already working on the

front line, this is the maximum i can say without details, we understand and thank you for including and for defending our positions there take care myself myroslav otkovych, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, a journalist was with us via skype, you see , we really have to, as we said in our studio, not to speculate about those statements about the losses of the ukrainian military, but we see and hear a serviceman who leaves without returning to figures of myroslav vatkovich, who says that he will lose really very, very big mr. yakushev, what do you think? you are also a serviceman, not knowingly returning to those numbers because they can really scare you, but how to stop these losses, reduce them quantitatively, qualitatively, at times, you understand that war is so harsh the thing is, where is otaka, well, it is very

difficult for us to see behind each person and personality, and for us it is a huge loss if a person dies, but unfortunately for the high-level military commanders, they cannot afford to look into each personality, otherwise this tragedy will stop them, paralyze them, you just understand, that's why i believe that what is being done now by the leadership of the armed forces is this and it is the maximum minimization of these losses, but in a war without losses it is absolutely impossible because the enemy is powerful, there are many enemies and unfortunately, there will be losses, you can’t do anything here, but the trends are nice. so when you look at the daily summaries, that’s how much the enemy has been destroyed. look, try to compare those that were, for example, a month ago and which are now and now you you will see that a month ago there were no enemy losses in terms of

artillery, in fact, and in terms of automotive equipment, there were much less, you got gasmen for all that, now these numbers have appeared and they are increasing every day, what does this say? effective counter-battery combat means that our artillery works effectively enough and, uh, these are the blows, they uh, they are trying to level this one, the superiority of the russian, a large number of artillery barrels can be effectively leveled, unfortunately it won't be so fast, but it's happening and that's why i hope that every day these figures for the loss of their artillery at the rear support bases will be more and this will reduce the actual intensity of the battles at the front, accordingly, it will reduce the number of people who die at the front we are adding to

our conversation valentyn nalyvaichenko, a people's deputy of ukraine, but we will still talk with you first of all with the head of the security service of ukraine, but just a few tens of minutes ago, there was oleksiy danilov on our air and we at the secretary of the national security and defense council, and in particular we raised the topic of what the situation that arose in kherson oblast is already being investigated and when we win, we will probably learn new evidence about the presence of traitors who theoretically could have allowed all the situations that happened and also from the quote fresh danilov that in fact only the internal destabilization of ukraine can lead to the fact that putin will defeat us. in this way, uh, pandemilov, you know, he did not hint directly, he said that we still have a lot of traitors who continue to live in ukraine and

move absolutely calmly between you as the head of the sbu, how can you comment on the risks of domestic unrest, let's say , on the part of traitors, even in such a time of war. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. at the beginning of the war, i was in kyiv all this time, day and night, and i saw already a professional point of view . professionally, all this was suppressed by the territorial defense , and here we must admit that the real defenders of ukraine worked, despite possible failures, possible shortcomings that really need to be dealt with after the war, betrayal of the power structures, and the defenders worked, and i think that the territorial defense of lviv from transcarpathia to kharkiv is

territorial defender these are the people who kept the situation under control and, in my opinion, they now deserve to work in the highest positions in the sbu and other law enforcement agencies of ukraine in order to prevent more infiltration of saboteurs and enemy agents into our country in relation to the kherson region and the situation in the south in general, i am among those professionals who believe that now during the martial law nothing stands in the way, on the contrary, all possibilities are open to harshly root out traitors, bring them to court and punish them life imprisonment with confiscation of property and deprivation of all ranks, the fact that the leaders of the power structures , in particular in the kherson region, went over to the enemy's side. yes, it is a shame for these leaders, but for us during martial law this means that we must severely punish and

purge such people from the government without waiting for the end of the war . i don't see anything that would prevent the front line, for example, the security service, the leadership of the security service of ukraine, to strictly oppose because they initiate criminal proceedings, transfer cases to court and arrest traitors and punish them in absentia and in person, who is in what position before this hid well, only recently, let's remember in the media, because one general of the sbu, the former head of internal security, think of the security services with diamonds and hundreds of thousands of euros and dollars in serbia, was detained. went over to the side of the enemy and got a job there

in some occupation administration in gaulyat , well, we have to destroy such traitors , but i will repeat that during the martial law there are all opportunities to counteract internally and all powers we as members of parliament i see you studio is my dear colleagues people's deputies voted for increased criminal liability for treason for collaborationism i.e. cooperation with the aggressor and i think it's time to use such tough eh means from the means in ukraine if we talk about our enemy, mr. nalyvaichenko, in your opinion, what could shake putin's power in russia? now we hear a lot about putin falling into a coma, although, well, if this information is not confirmed at all. and tomorrow, allegedly, he is supposed to speak at st. petersburg forum, and this is also an important

aspect because there, uh, they continue to talk about the fact that they will take over all of ukraine and how it will all work out for them, how strong are his positions there now in your opinion? well, there are actually no positions there, what is it in st. petersburg is an economic forum, well, the taliban came there, representatives of the taliban came there because they were promised money in moscow, what kind of money, billions for, er, their taliban power in afghanistan well, imagine the level of the question, is the belarusian lukashenko thinking, should he go or not? because if it will come to him that he should join the russian federation in the coming months and forget about his so-called presidency. that's why this is not an economic forum - it's russian propaganda in action , you know. for god's sake, rogozin's twitter has been blocked , another russian propagandist of space

war propagandist, now he will no longer gurgle to the whole world with his ukraine-fobmy statements, that's why i didn't pay attention to such a russian propaganda, but what about breaking putin and putin's power, there is only one serious further resistance of the armed forces of ukraine, the liberation of our lands, further serious military and armed assistance from our allies from the anti-putin coalition, let's remember yesterday's rammstein three, how many decisions, how many weapons have been decided, and they will come despite all kepsis even sometimes you sound like our ukrainian military on the air, now in germany, poland and other countries they are learning to work on modern systems and howitzers and rockets systems of incendiary salvo fire and even today there is positive positive information from the president of france, who is in kyiv today, france to those 12 artillery

and self-propelled caesar artillery installations that have already been allocated and six more are located in ukraine will be allocated. this is already 18, which is not bad if, for example, to wear them on in the zyum direction and strengthen the artillery of our armed forces so that they destroy the enemy at a distance and die less. better yet, they were completely unreachable for the russian artillery and our defenders. that's what will break putin's power and one more thing, we all understand that the sanctions that are gradually being applied are starting to take effect on the territory of the russian federation, especially in the banking and financial system of russia, can and i think will lead to the first social protests in the fall. well, this will be the real end of putin's regime and he will leave to the bottom, like that cruiser moscow in our black sea. alexander has a question for p- at the moment. thank you for your categorical position regarding kremlin moles and

traitors who ran to serve in moscow, i think if they follow the path of givi and motorola, it will be far from the worst that they have to go through, but i have a question for you as a professional of a very high grade, e-e, the decision of the highest military-political leadership is the issue of ukrainian prisoners of war, especially those who were captured as a result of being captured in mariupol, it was transferred to the main directorate of intelligence . from a professional point of view, how do you assess that this particular structure will deal with the exchange of prisoners of war between ukraine and muscovy ? in 2014-15, when you and other patriots helped us release the first hostages of illegally obtained ukrainians, whom

the aggressor began to capture in the donetsk and luhansk regions, we then created a center for the release of ukrainians, he worked according to my decision about the sbu and i then during the year, 2,716 ukrainians were released from captivity, there were all military volunteers, activists, patriots, all ukrainians, now this is really a topic and situation that is mysterious and given to the leadership of the states, i understand the presidents of ukraine under the supervision of zelenskiy to be engaged in military intelligence from the point of view of promptness in solving issues from the point of view of urgency. i believe that it can be, but i would still like the current authorities to open a special center for mothers for relatives . to help including the release of each of our defenders with such information, but now let's give one more figure, let's call the current two

and a half thousand of our defenders from behind in captivity in the russian federation, the russians are rehoming most of them in the territory of the temporarily occupied donetsk and luhansk regions in clearly human conditions, that is why i believe that such a center should be restored for the release of our patriots, let the military intelligence deal with it, there are professionals there, they have opportunities but i would restore such a center, plus i would join the work of this center with international organizations, the un red cross, and others who can and should help us free everyone, well, the only thing that predicts what will happen it is very difficult to do this now. valentyn

nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine from his homeland, was with us via skype. well, there is one more important topic that we want to discuss in our studio. in the end, we must pay attention to what our enemy is doing and in order to predict what to expect tomorrow , many experts say, for example, vladimir putin, who seems to have been in a coma and seems to have many doppelgangers. therefore, it may not be vladimir putin, but in the end at this strange international economic forum with the participation of the taliban and several other small let's say countries and not quite recognized countries or uh, territorial entities, so to speak, but putin should speak in front of them, in particular, what um , what does he say it is impossible not to talk about their influence on prices and energy and food products. i am sure that the president will talk about this, of course

, this year, the spoken form will be extremely important, but this is official information, in the end, very many commentators are now saying that what putin will say tomorrow may have serious consequences for how a full-scale invasion of the russian federation will take place on the territory of ukraine, because if you listen and unfortunately we would also do this for information, their media there already frankly and openly agree with the poles and they are threatening the baltic countries, they say, well, the whole of europe should prepare ruslan koshulinsky how are you? well, i wouldn't want to say aces, but at least some cards may not be high. let's say it's putin's type. remained in the sleeve well, of course, the thing remained friends well, let's not lie in the first quarter of this year, muscovy received more from the sale of

petroleum products than in six months last year, that is, they have a huge stock of money and all the thoughts that someone, what social disruptions, protests , will not give any of this he shows that he is alive, that he has money, that he will withstand the pressure of the world, he shows his strength, he hopes that the worst troops are the so-called allied troops, that they cannot withstand the pressure of social pressure, pressure er, the increase in fuel prices in europe, in america, what could be the problems there? he shows the whole world that he will not be forced and that nothing is scary for him, he has money, this is the only thing he can show , taking into account, let's say, the pressure that is now in the whole

world they were cut off, then cut off and from the banking system, in general, moscow today, but it has a reserve. it is waiting for the fall of the winter period. well, because our partners have not yet been able to transition from dependence on gas and oil dependence on one thing, it will not happen so quickly. they will pass because he shows i am i am alive i will not break you the whole world will not break me i will wait when you get tired this is his only task with which he does it all the rest everything the rest he has no opposition he has no public opinion in he does not have re-elections and he has no problems with money. that's it, and everything else. well, everything else showed this, and by the way, you said about winter, and it's clear that even if putin somehow manages to shake the

european partners, then everything will normalize in may. in the winter it will be even more difficult, but if we talk about ukraine, our leaders and president zelenskyy speak frankly about this, after all, we are in for a very difficult winter under any conditions of development, because of this conflict and the full-scale aggression of the russian federation . what to prepare, well, turning on the heating completely. is it somehow possible to solve these issues of entire districts, streets , blocks of cities, everything will depend on how much the government will demonstrate already today correct and technological and economic decisions, we know that during the previous months gas was not actually pumped into underground gas storages, the reason was very banal and wrong, lack of funds. i think that this is a miscalculation of the government, because at first the government raised the excise tax in

order to allegedly fill the budget when it saw the failure and in fact, they brought everything back to the brink of bankruptcy of gas-producing ukrainian gas-producing companies. that is, this indicates that today the government does not make quick and correct decisions in the industry economy of technological solutions that would give us the opportunity to prepare. well, of course the winter will be difficult and it is clear that today putin is doing everything possible to make the winter difficult both for ukraine and for the european union, therefore, in technological repair, the nord stream is one - this is direct blackmail of the european trinity in kyiv promises ukraine the status of a candidate for eu membership and new heavy weapons - this is the 113th day of russia's war