colloquial hm, what europeans pay according to this cunning scheme to russian banks, then everything is converted into rubles, well, you know, this does not come to mind. it actually violates the principle, that is, the europeans said and then retreated from this. and of course, this is also a direction. i think that it would be nice if macron didn't call the pasta for hours and didn't talk to putin because if this person is in diplomatic isolation, then none of the europeans or representatives of the free world should call or should call to say what if you do theta and theta, these are the sanctions, these are the consequences, that is, simply as a channel of proof of the institution’s determination to tell us what will be expected in the event that, for example, they will create some kherson people’s republic or zaporizhzhia. will it be created in a single in some federal district, how were there such ideas

, that is, it seems to me that it is easy to move on, to support ukraine in arms first of all . russia will be even after putin. well, if kiriyenko becomes the president of the russian federation, then if he is being prepared there for that. well, isn’t this thinking, well, fascist from the point of view, actually, the somehow constructed world and their goals will change in relation to ukraine. no, they will simply prepare for the next war and we will take it and we will prepare, but it is definitely better that we put an end to it at least 20 years ago now and not postpone this this this story thank you thank you mr. oleksandr it was oleksandr hara experts of the center for defense strategies, a diplomat thank you for participating in the program, we will be in touch with you hanna

hopko, politician, people's deputy of ukraine of the 8th convocation ms. hanna is now in the united states of america, ms. gana good afternoon or good night, good morning, good morning to you, good morning to us, good day so, yesterday joseph biden announced that the united states of america will provide ukraine with a new package of military aid worth 1 billion dollars. please tell me how this news is perceived in the united states of america itself. the media say what ordinary americans say, well , yesterday i was at a meeting at the national security council of the white house where the directors of four key e-e departments were. of course, this is not a meeting with national security advisor sullivan, but it is a good opportunity to talk with key people who prepare analytics to discuss the situation what is in ukraine and what military aid do we need in order for deo to buy territories so that in

the second phase of the war, uh, to make counter-offensives in order not to block the black sea? and also regain control over the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, and then he was the representative of the national security council of the white house who announced that this was a conversation between the two presidents about additional financial aid, but our task was to explain that we at the front, in particular , on the battlefield, ukraine needs more weapons. these weapons should be delivered faster because there are large losses and the kremlin's plans, in particular the scenarios we see. we also described possible offensives from different directions and why offensive heavy artillery is extremely necessary for us and a plus they also talked about rammstein, but for ukraine, in addition to weapons, the direction of sanctions is also important, economic pressure is also important, and the fact that the european

union did not manage to adopt a tough embargo of sanctions against kirill. we also talked about russia being finally recognized as a state a sponsor of terrorism and the wagnerites as organizations - this is what was on the agenda, but i will tell you, mr. serhiy, the most important thing for us was to bring about the restoration of territorial integrity and sovereignty within the borders of 1991, because there are many germans who come to meet with the head of the tsar, he also meets with representatives of the national council of tsar ivan and tries to convince them to put pressure on ukraine and you to make some concessions. they are trying to use, in particular , the detention of weapons supplies in order to also the great losses that ukraine bears because the lives of everyone a warrior, especially young guys like roman

ratushny, like roman zhuk from transcarpathia, i.e. for us, these are incredible losses, but we explain to them that it is immoral, it is cynical, instead of accelerate the delivery of weapons to think that ukraine after the ninth year of russian armed aggression will make some concessions, therefore only a complete ukrainian victory, to which they immediately reacted that the united states of america's position is very principled, we do not support the plan those peace plans that are in various e centers in various capitals and we will continue e well, they made assurances to provide ukraine with all the necessary weapons, they talked about certain issues that there are many weapons in the warehouses that have already been given, but we have a task for a long time it was necessary to prepare for the development of forces and means according to nato standards, and since one

scenario is a protracted war, then we need to train our pilots and there will be a visit, in particular, and representatives of the ukrainian armed forces to washington, and it is very important for us to show that the ukrainians know how to to quickly master not only the stingara and lava javelins, but also the fee 16 petri system, for which we need to prepare for, and in particular, the day before nato itself. we also asked the americans. that the strategic concept that will be considered is that no one is talking about the military cooperation in ukraine against the background of the applications submitted by sweden and finland. by the way, about the relations between official kyiv and washington, just a few days ago, joseph biden spoke about what the american intelligence there were reports of

an attack by russia on ukraine, but the ukrainian authorities did not believe in this attack, although these warnings were enough, i looked through my entire archive, by the way, in the last six months, i really saw maps drawn by western special services, including american and they actually all coincide with what we now see as a different event on the territory of the ukrainian state, then there was a response from the official kyiv, then the ambassador to the united states of america in ukraine apologized to the ukrainians, to zelensky they said that well, in fact, we will always support the united states states of america, are american politicians and american officials talking about the fact that we wasted time or that we did not start preparing for war in time, that we somehow missed this moment and partly now it is necessary to make up solely for the fact that we were not able

to take certain steps in time that would have protected us from a big war, or was this big war uh, it could not be avoided, that the americans understood that sooner or later russia would still go, interfering, even if everything went to ukrainian state, look at my personal opinion, despite all the warnings from the united states of america, britain, that there will be a full-scale offensive, despite the fact that we saw the withdrawal of troops on the borders of ukraine and belarusian ukrainian and other territories on the russian-ukrainian borders. i want to say that they are losses and er. of course, it was possible and here there is responsibility not only for the ukrainian waters for 30 years, but he is also responsible for measures

because in 2014 and the invasion of the green men or the alienation of russia into the sovereign territory he is not in crimea, we actually have to say that there is a worthy reaction, in particular, and the united states of america and britain were not there as security guarantors , we did not see the sixth fleet of the united states, we did not see it in 8 years when merkel was first holland er, then macron already told us about the peaceful political and diplomatic settlement of the situation, so i believe that there is a certain co-responsibility here, but now it is very important to clearly understand and all putin's statements indicate that he is preparing for december 22 in 2022, when it will be 100 years since the founding of the ussr, that is, there are several plans now and scenarios of the development of events from the fact that in 8 years they did not succeed, er, remember the failed plan of

novorossiya, that is why they will gradually go further there on the offensive every day, er, picking up pieces ukrainian land in order to implement this plan in a lesson , it is possible to further attack from the side of belarus in order to cut off the supply of necessary and humanitarian and military aid to ukraine. we saw internal unity because we, i see how inside the country those irreparable losses eh instead of thinking how to speed up the supply of arms to us eh some politicians are trying to eh as they say undermine unity within the top leadership, unity between the general staff, that is, the officials of the minister

of defense, so i think that many people understand these issues, in particular, here too, and i would very much like the ministry of defense, and from those of ours agencies that are engaged in the purchase and supply of weapons, we saw a real readiness in this marathon of a long, tiring war to work as a single national team because, even now, the americans are british. they have a clear understanding of what further scenarios, in particular, of the offensive are possible on the battlefield in ukraine, therefore, our task is already understanding that we were warned. and we were engaged in large-scale construction, and we did not purchase state defense orders and many mistakes were made. we will live with these mistakes. i really hope that we will not see failures of public memory, but really there will be irreversible punishment for those who

demined chongar, and for those to conquer kherson region so quickly, but now our task is to get more weapons for victory and so that all the aggressors here fail, and the international tribunal was waiting for them, because ukraine is an international nation support also has the ability to decrease and the struggle for attention against the background of inflation against the background of the global food crisis and against the background of rising fuel prices also in various capitals and people are talking about this, we critically need support not just to remain at this level but to grow because this is a war of resource depletion and the more resources there are in ukraine, weapons of financial aid

to cover the budget deficit and this is a minimum of 5 billion per month of humanitarian aid to create jobs for those who are in ukraine and the most important thing is the preparation now for autumn and winter , because the one hundred percent scenario is the application of the tactics that the russians used in syria, this is to make cities unusable for life, this is further attacks on critical infrastructure facilities, in particular , stations, so that ukrainians are free from a-a problems with humanitarian aid, it was tested on the strategy before the meeting of the attack on the elevators to be added to the warehouses of our schools. therefore, this is key yesterday , the secretary of defense of the united states of america lloyd austin in brussels at the opening of the contact group which deals with aid in ukraine, the so-called

rammstein iii said that the stakes are now too high, ukraine is experiencing a decisive moment on the battlefield and we are seeing what president zelensky warned us about after the failure to capture kyiv, the reassessment of its combat goals , russia has shifted its focus to donbas and as the minister of defense of the united states of america says in the western partners of ukraine, they cannot afford to give up and slow down, and there is already an agreement on the supply of long-range armored artillery of the coast guard, that is, a whole package of military aid that will not reach ukraine. i am actually at the very beginning of the questions, how do ordinary americans feel about this? do you hear what the americans are saying because the war that is going on between russia and ukraine, this aggression that is now causing russia 's irreparable damage to the ukrainian economy affects, including, ordinary

americans and the economy of the united states of america, what is written in the press, what are ordinary people saying, do they understand what is happening continents where we are, they understand very well and the articles obviously say that prices have become very expensive in america, that there is inflation, that taxi drivers say about the increase in fuel, but when you ask where are you from, uh, you say something from ukraine, then the deputies why did you come to washington, then they say listen, ask for more let the government in the usa give you help. you must stop this evil because the united states of america is for society, especially after such a certain as the withdrawal of troops from afghanistan. and he wants to support the ukrainian people in this the fight against the evil empire is also very important here for

christmas, as allowing the empire is the same and now it is very important to hear that we have won and we feel this high support at the community level. because of this, we have that leverage in february, when they began a full-scale invasion in order to the american government began to allocate funds to us for weapons, and we saw at first a 13.6 billion dollar package, of which only 2.5 billion went to military service, then 40 billion of which 16 went to military service, plus there were several presidential decrees and coordination at the level of the world of the world as rammstein in order to mobilize various governments in support of the supply of arms to ukraine, and during this period of time we moved from the use of soviet connections to nato types of weapons

, and therefore the leadership role of the united states is important here so that, like germany, and not inhibiting the supply of arms they did not offer ukraine absolutely unacceptable plans that are not in the interests of the west, that is why people are ordinary people on the streets . ukraine i said yes, he says he left, we support you and i will come-, well, i thanked and said, you know, uh, this time ukraine will win this historic battle and showed that it is written on my hand, ukraine's time has come, and uh, you know, america is also important to the americans to draw conclusions from the 20th century, when, during the genocide, the diplomatic soviet union was recognized here, and ah, hmm. now we explain that the great struggle for the

stability of the years and, in general, the geopolitical significance of ukraine, there will be no peace and stability of development on the european continent as long as ukraine will not take its rightful place in the european family of nations and in nato - this is a key conclusion from the 20th century, which was unbelievably bloody and now without the help of ukraine, the world is waiting . i don't even want to think what are the possible scenarios and so that there is public support ms. hanno today macron draga and shultz are in kyiv they came to ukraine to meet with volodymyr zelensky as announced to demonstrate support for ukraine and discuss its application for accession to the european union, at the same time i am following the

news feed for russia's reaction to and attention to this visit. dmitry medvedev, who is now acting as volodymyr volfovych zhirynovsky, writes about the fact that european connoisseurs of liver frogs and macarons will visit kiev, benefit and zero, again, they promised an introduction to the old eu howitzers blew the burners and the train went home like 100 years ago, and all is well, only this does not bring ukraine closer to the world, and the clocks are ticking , wrote the deputy chairman of the russian security council federations in dmitry medvedev and this audacity, which is demonstrated by medvedi and lavrov and putin, in what way should it be curbed all over the world, because you can't always suffer from russian bullies and tolerate these stupid posts, tweet eh medvedev, lavrov's speeches also the statements of adolf

the second about the great russia and that great russia will end with the border of muscovy, and putin is terribly afraid of this, and when in december of last year, sokorov debated with him that the capital is moscow, that moscow is the capital of moscow, and then this russian federation suffers from such a policy of colonization depletion of resources, then he skipped and began to say that you guys will turn the russian federation into moscow - nato wants this to never happen, and he said that there are 2,000 conflicts with territorial claims on the territory of russia, so all these plans are a reference to peter the great, who stole the name -e ukraine russia, renaming muscovy, then the traditions of the soviet union with occupation and

enslavement of peoples and now the russian federation is one of the tasks of his visit to washington during a meeting in the white house of state in the house of congress, we are discussing the strategy for the russian federation because many representatives of the russian opposition, oligarchs, are here in washington and london. they are trying to talk about regime change. the task of ukraine is to say that by changing the regime we will not change the imperial nature of russian statehood, and therefore it is very important to include representatives of the republics in the dialogue . indigenous peoples who now support ukraine, who are in exile and who, during these 9 years of russian aggression, were on the side of ukraine on their statements. they have to be a part of the dialogue regarding the future of the russian federation, you know, i have this feeling that

ukraine's dependence on me was the determining factor, as putin says, the biggest geopolitical catastrophe in the collapse of the soviet union. it seems to me that there are several scenarios regarding the future of russia and one of the scenarios that this prison of enslaved republics is a violation even of the constitution of russia, where it is humiliated, where the rights of national minorities are violated, where speech is prohibited, and in june we celebrated the birth of a famous udmurian scientist who committed suicide a year ago because of the fact that their udmurian language is disappearing due to the repressive policy of the kremlin, therefore the task of ukraine is not only to defeat and restore the territorial integrity of the return of donbass and crimea through the reconstruction plan to ensure such a modernization of the state with uniform technologies, but our task - this is to do as the secretary of state of the pentagon or the secretary of defense of the

united states say so that the aggressor could never again attack any sovereign state and therefore ukraine should be part of these negotiations on the future of russia and with various scenarios, in particular, the scenarios in the independence of some republics that have already created a platform or a league of free nations, and therefore putin can laugh at ukraine with his entourage there, making mockery of these, our task is to show both macron and scholz that they are over a thousand years old there are traditions of connections with the dynasties of europe in ukraine, that when yaroslav the wise gave away his daughters and his wife is engerda from sweden, and i, last week with a delegation, we were in stockholm and we are talking about the status of the candidate is actually about the return of the nation

with a shield because we are not, as they say, a nation that holds the shields firmly in order to protect europe and not just the shield of europe or as before someone said that we are a bridge no we are not a bridge we are an equal partner of the european the families of peoples who, with their contribution to the thousand-year history , are doing more now in order to have stability in europe than other countries who think like peacemakers, how not to humiliate there dong khimilei putin, therefore our task is to explain to macrono and scholz their responsibility for 8 years of failure and the peaceful settlement of russian aggression that led to a full-scale war, therefore they are responsible, they are responsible for the fact that economically, in particular, due to the construction of nord stream-2 and the laundering of russian dirty money through their banks, they created this monster and now they have to help ukraine in every possible way to defeat it,

not any concession, thank you, mrs. hanna, thank you for the conversation. have a nice visit to the united states of america in the future. this was hanna hopko, a politician, a people's deputy of the verkhovna rada of the eighth convocation it was a program of the verdict and conducted by serhii rudenko. i say goodbye to you until monday at 1:00 p.m. see you this week. several important events for us will take place. the decisions of the eva commission regarding ukraine's application to the eu. rammstein iii. expect visits of leaders of several countries to kyiv. ukrainian authorities say that the aid of weapons should not just be strengthened but increased several times so that everything becomes a reality, the world cannot be allowed to get tired of ukraine and it is necessary to keep the focus of world politics that the war and all the problems related to it caused

not some diplomatic steps of ukraine, but the aggressive aspirations of moscow, and it must be said that the kremlin himself reminded about it. last week, once again, he returned yes. in sweden , the same is the case in the western direction, this applies to my work in the first campaign, so why did we go back here and strengthen everything, it is our fate, too, it means that they will be returned and strengthened. базовые велыение составления базовые велыение базовые нашего вечественность, well, this is the basis of existence, and this

statement by putin was lively discussed and quoted by all russian propagandists. therefore, this is not an accidental statement, but something so staged when the kremlin decided no longer to hide in its war propaganda for talks about the protection of the residents of donetsk, but directly to tell that the goal of the war is to seize new territories , and propaganda is trying to convince the russian population first of all that the world's resistance to this conquest will not last long, it is only worth capturing foreign territory, and there will come recognition , that's when england came from behind the swedish lion and unleashed a full-scale information campaign of carlo 12 - they proclaimed peter the savior of european civilization, and in general all russians were barbarians, and a horde of press wrote about the superiors of the russian army and its incredible losses, and the tsar himself was scolded in newspapers and european palaces all right after convincing victories in the northern war russophobic

hysteria ended as if by magic congratulations, you understand who are trying to draw such parallels and russian propagandists actually frankly say that we really want the squabs of the western world . that is, to the european union - these are foreign affairs for the european union, and it is better not to enter into them, not to muddy the waters, and even more so not to expect to increase the influence of the zone at the expense of russian lands, these are all these things broadcasts russian propaganda to the world and how to counter it in the world, how to deal with it, what to oppose, let's talk now with love from

chiubulska. have you heard these statements? please tell me if anyone in the west has heard them, or if there is already any reaction to them, yes, they are definitely being heard now. the west listens very carefully to what the russian leaders say, the leader mainly uh, but we see that the reaction to the words does not particularly have what matters is what people do here as well. i remember how many times ukrainians, my colleagues, and propaganda specialists explained this propaganda rhetoric to western countries, and we saw that there was mostly no reaction, we saw that western countries, hmm, some of them. let's talk er express that's for sure, that is, there are those

countries that understand what this is about, first of all, the baltic countries, poland, and sweden , finland, but the central european countries, they preferred not to understand, supposedly, these imperial ambition to turn a blind eye to them unfortunately, lyudmila, here are you recently oh, i'm sorry, love, you recently took part in such a program, there was a conflict with the un where well, in principle, that's enough such a sharp presenter direct questions as a rule, i remember that a few years ago i also participated in klimkin, the then us minister of foreign affairs , it was not easy for him there, let's say it directly. and as a rule, such programs very well show the very issues in them that are in the focus of attention of the world snakes of the world and, in general, the focus of attention of society western countries please tell me for yourself