these countries that understand what it is about, first of all, the baltic countries, poland, sweden , finland, but the central european countries, they prefer not to understand these imperial ambitions and turn a blind eye to them. unfortunately , lyudmila, here you are. recently, oh, sorry, love , have you recently participated in such a program, where and whether you had a conflict with the un, where well, in principle, that's enough. such a sharp presenter, direct questions. as a rule, i remember that a few years ago, i participated in uh, also uh klimkin, then our minister foreign affairs was not easy for him there, let's say it directly. and as a rule, such programs very well show the very issues in them that are the focus of attention of the world snakes of the world and, in general, the focus of attention of society in western countries. what is

the most important thing right now, during this conversation in this program, what is the most important thing right now, what should we focus on? what is happening here and what consequences it can have for the whole world, this is primarily because a lot of people, especially politicians in the west, do not understand that this is actually a big geopolitical catastrophe. they do not understand that if we all together and as a national world do not overcome putin then these hostilities will move further to the west, there is this problem. well, secondly, of course, there is a lot of talk about this narrative about that and it is very

harmful. in fact, when i was little, i had several conferences in several countries i visited in the last three weeks and at some point i already realized that i already have fatigue from their fatigue because at every meeting, uh, everyone repeated that the west is getting tired, we are getting tired of this war, and here it is very important to explain to them that friends, well, we are not we are getting tired but we are fighting and we are not getting tired, let's not get tired and continue to strengthen sanctions and provide us with weapons, well, that is, it is extremely important to explain , because this is actually one of the narratives that russia is now advancing to the west that this war for a long time it's already tired everyone, you can turn your attention away, switch to something else, that's why we need to explain what this fatigue is, it's just this trap. well, if we fall into it, the

price can really be extremely high, even more so the price of this war is already high, and the main consequences will be not only for ukraine, but also for our western partners. well, literally , in the last program of the jelly bean this evening, what is happening in the city on sunday, there is enough a big plot which is actually me i believe that the eu has gathered here, you know, all the problems, which are all the main messages that russia is trying to broadcast to the eu, let's see, because it seems important to me, you know, to somehow sort this out into some spare parts, let's see about the fact that the european union is very active they use their recovery fund, the main reason for the additional expenses is the high cost of energy, which made all of us sick. the

economic situation is simply terrible. interest rates will have to be increased, which will increase the pressure on households and families, and it will be difficult to add to our european ukraine, the common european treasury is depleted due to the multibillion-dollar aid from kiev , the european commissioner and johanneskhan said that as a result, brussels will have to revise the seven-year budget earlier than planned. blumber agency writes that denmark and the netherlands has already spoken out against giving ukraine the status of a candidate for the eu . that ukraine at the moment cannot guarantee democracy, the supremacy of the law of human rights, respect and protection of minorities, the question of

kyiv 's application will be discussed. they say that the european union does not have a unified strategy of action today, on the contrary, contradictions only worsen when it comes to non-national and financial interests that is, you see everything in one such way and through ukraine. the eu budget is running out there, and ukraine is to blame for the fact that some contradictions appear in the european union, well, that is, all this together, but it is clear that, in principle, the main blow that is now uh, well, russian propaganda is directed at the eu, after all, it is connected with some such attempt to raise this topic there, you know, the refrigerator against russian aggression, how much is it ? that this is a continuation of the same narratives that russia has been broadcasting for the last eight years, that

europe is not united, that it is divided, that they do not have a common visa, that there are no common european values, and so on. secondly, we clearly see here that russia has now included ah, again, it was the same all these years, but now it has settled down. i advised that the sanctions do not work, and this is exactly the sign that the sanctions actually work, because so many propagandists are trying to push this message. that they now need to lift the sanctions and show that ukraine is not worth the attention of european countries at all, and here i would talk about another danger, and we understand that russia is very actively working with european politicians and european media but you also need to understand that in the coming months, russia will rock

european society and tell you that your state and your governments are spending money on ukraine. look at this conflict, this war has already dragged on for a long time. to go to your beautification to improve life why are they going to ukraine and definitely the government and will be forced to respond to their electorate to their citizens and it is extremely important for us to explain and speak and come out and what is this war about and what is happening in general show our victories show in general, what is russia headed for, how totalitarian is it, because it is not currently an authoritarian totalitarian state, this is extremely important to explain to citizens to speak not only on a

diplomatic political level, but to try to have here are such broad companies to explain uh to the citizens of western countries because they will then force their governments to make certain uh decisions, well, we now have a video about uh what is expected to kyiv, where the chancellor is planning to move olafsholt of germany, president of france, emmanuel macron, prime minister of italy, mariadi, and this was reported to bilt ensoutah with reference to own sources, and even as if in the office of the president of macron, she said that it should come back a little bit, not on june 15, i'm his trip well, actually, this trip causes such a fear that all these people will come to, say, kyiv to make concessions, do you see that there really is such a thing? well, is there such a pressure or is it something that we are exaggerating

here? er especially in the european union i see how er russia included through its channels er here it is hmm here is this thesis about concessions a-a this has been extremely widely discussed in the last few weeks er and here it is important er to talk about what a - and we will make the decision nothing about ukraine without ukraine, this is the message that is still not there some central ones understand some let's talk about which france, germany, and italy, too, they don't understand that the world has changed, that the world is no longer divided into zones of influence and they simply cannot make a decision for 45 million people, this is currently already in 2022 this is not possible because

this people has its own will, its own desire, its own opinion , and this is our struggle, we will know. well, i also explained to many western colleagues that we will fight with our bare hands against them, we will still defend our land simply what is the price will be extremely high here and er and it will also be on your conscience because if you do not arm us and our people will die in large numbers and we will be forced er without having the appropriate weapons to fight with them then definitely this is this so is your responsibility , so i would talk about what this danger is because it is so convenient for everyone to return to business with the usual, to return to this order that existed before this world political order that existed until february 24 - it is convenient, otherwise it is necessary then

to admit that you were wrong because you built, for example, economic stream-2, you were wrong to call putin and, er, had all these friendly talks with them, you are wrong to have launched so many russian businesses in your country, er, and so on. that's why this it's difficult to actually admit that you were wrong, and then also about actively er, somehow er, providing assistance to ukraine is not easy. that's why we need to work very actively, including with our allies, with those countries that understand this threat and fortunately, we have them for example, not so long ago, the eu finally banned russian state television channels that speak foreign languages ​​and, well, after that it turned out that during the time they existed,

they managed to branch out a whole infrastructure of bloggers around them who are working for them, who continue to tell and promote russian narratives in their blogs, uh, targets there, uh, politicians, uh, such a network with which they constantly cooperated. and hence the question after this step, in principle, when the sanctions have already affected such serious some russian propagandists and is there now the political will to continue to stand in the way of russian propaganda, not only in this sense, but in the literal sense? well, even well, on a deeper level, that is, on the level of bloggers, on the level of political participation of some political politicians let's say so who work and cooperate with russia well, because, well, this should already be done, we just need to talk about it. yes, it is through the politicians, the agent of influence in russia, and it should somehow be shown to the europeans, well, in the audience, too,

well, the eu is, after all, such a monolith, uh, whole low countries and each of these countries has its own understanding of this threat, as i already said, and in many countries . this work has been carried out for a long time, and again, the baltic countries, this czech republic, this poland, this is sweden , finland, well, that is, i would not sprinkle my head you didn't talk about the fact that russian propaganda is the same layer everywhere, hmm , it's influential, it's very different, and it doesn't go separately, it goes in a complex with various hybrid influences, other hybrid influences of russia, and this political influence and economic the influence of this corruption that is why this cultural influence, which is especially strong

, for example, in france, and it is necessary to consider these russian tv channels as russian propaganda separately, i would not, because this is all a very complex phenomenon, for example, when russia spends days at the russian of the avant-garde in hunting , so in other institutions of the european union, then and at the same time, in this exhibition, part of the artists are ukrainian artists that russia actually appropriates, so can we separate it from propaganda no that's why it's necessary here you have to watch it, after all, it’s more complicated, er, such influence operations er, and it’s definitely necessary to cover it all, to show it, it’s already being actively done, but it’s not enough. that is, we know that russia works not only with bloggers, there’s a lot of it, russia

works just as easily with traditional media, and the main thing is that it works with political elites, both national central and regional political elites in countries, and you don't need to bribe the media, you just need to bribe, for example, some regional leader who will walk and speak your messages and if he has a lot of such interactions with the media, then the essence of these messages is provided in the info field, that is, there are extremely many ways, well, for example, i saw solovyov literally hysterical about the fact that in italian society it is about literally compiling lists of politicians who cooperate with russia and well, this is a very big victory. this is an extremely big victory for italy because italy is extremely heavily infiltrated by russian agents of influence and in the italian media there is a lot of russian propaganda, that's why it's

already happening. i understand that like solovyov, because he's used to a completely different picture in italy, well , thanks to that, there are three more villas that actually also have an effect on his consciousness, which are like water to a river . but i think that he is quite shocked because he did not expect that they would investigate the own activities of these pro-russian eh politicians eh and these connections eh investigating the connections with russia is a big step, it is an important step and it cannot be ignored i think it's just as important when we talk about of our european partners, it is extremely important to note and thank them for what they are doing, and to criticize where it is necessary, because it is. yes, i would say a lot of complaints about the fact that ukraine is starting to teach the west, ukraine is starting to tell how it should be done. everyone is dissatisfied, and so on. and russia has

strengthened its generative power, therefore, where we see real help, support and generally common sense, then this should be noted and thanked for well, now russia is very focused on stopping the supply of weapons to ukraine. this is for it's an important topic for them. well, we understand why. and one of the very important directions for them now is to show that western weapons are hitting donetsk, so they started shelling donetsk in order to show that it's ukrainians who are shelling. i wonder if it was successful they already have to broadcast it somehow to the western audience. because here we understand what is happening, does the western audience understand what is happening, or has it not reached them yet? when western governments give us weapons and they have the support of, for example, their own citizens, so it will be said that this weapon will kill the russian army, russia wants to show that

this weapon is used to kill civilians , and this is definitely not what our western colleagues and citizens of europe would like to be responsible for states, that is, and this narrative is extremely harmful, because it is one thing when we give funds for the destruction of russian tanks, and it is another thing when they die from it, this is a completely different responsibility, and therefore somewhere this works, i would say that globally er in the european information field is still dominated by the ukrainian peoples, the russians do not manage to take the lead, specifically, in the united states, in europe, but if we are talking about south america

, if we are talking about africa, if we are talking about asia, then unfortunately, russian narratives are broadcast and - and they are very actively trusted and we simply unfortunately, we do not have these resources to work in these parts of the world and actively fight against this propaganda video well, i would say what is the attitude of western society towards in recent years, until the moment of the invasion, they were so determined that ukraine would fall there in a day, two or maybe a week. well, indeed, the unprecedented resistance of ukrainian society to the invasion of the ukrainian people has changed a lot. well, in pomeranian, for example, he says that someday they will study it because ukraine managed to create in

western societies the impression that they are here. tangential to the defense of ukraine, as if they know that they attacked our relatives, we may also be distant relatives, not so close, but equally they are our relatives, that is, ukrainians in general , yes, i would say that ukraine somehow succeeded in this, yes, yes -e in public opinion to create and raise such a layer of family values ​​in general, it is very deep, such and such a thing. and i wonder now whether this is still going on, whether we are moving to some new, in general, new stage that requires us to do something else, some other such countermeasures how would you say, first of all, i agree with pomerantsev and i think that ukraine is such a typical underdog yes. that is, he is such a character in a

work of art, who are obviously weaker, and whose starting positions are worse than his opponent, but he is because of his internal strength or because of his own certain characteristics, in our case because of this extraordinary fortitude because of courage because of humor he wins as a result and of course no one likes to bet on the strongest and even more so with such a snarl he is stronger than the strong and such imperialist, nationalist, what kind of character is russia now, for example? yes, it is clear that you want to bet on someone who is very brave. someone has already said, hmm, worse initial conditions , but at the same time it shows an incredible story of love, beauty, self-sacrifice, and so on. then it is obvious

that ukraine will really win in this er dramaturgy. but are you asking whether it holds now, of course it holds. i think that the majority of citizens are on our side, it's just that the attention is switched and we need to understand that these are if we where do we get this slice from, mainly in social networks ? where do we get understanding, whether there is, whether they are paying attention or not, and we see that interest is gradually decreasing, but this is such a natural process, that people are tired of constant victims, torture, suffering, and western societies. it is obvious that these are certain depressing messages for them, that is why it is extremely important to show the other side of the war, so it is necessary to show this courage, it is necessary to emphasize that we

have many dimensions of this war in addition to suffering well, this is a civilized war, so i would say that about the fact that now, well, the summer vacation is coming, it's natural that the attention switches now it will be more difficult for us and before that we just have to admit it or they should be afraid, we don't need to be scared and that's not the main thing one should accept the fact of the war, but also accept the fact that we cannot lose because if we lose, we will not become one of us, there will be no one of us somewhere, but it will be them, it will not be ukraine, and this is extremely important for to keep the pace in order to to have the strength to find and draw from within yourself these forces for the fight thank you, it was love cybulska, we will hold on and we will keep the world from getting tired, they should not get tired of us and we are not tired, thank you

, love cybulska, she was an expert in sports-action of disinformation, thank you all, and we will meet, congratulations i'm iryna kovali. this is a program about health. the topic of today's broadcast applies to everyone, because, let's face it, there are no such people now who do not buy medicine, and for many, the use of pills is an integral part of life, however, martial law dictates new rules, they also affected the pharmaceutical market on the legalization of medical cannabis. the cabinet of ministers of ukraine supported a bill that will regulate the circulation of hemp plants for medical industrial purposes, scientific and scientific and technical activities, in fact it is about the legalization of medical cannabis in ukraine, we

understand the negative consequences of war on the state of psychological health we understand the number of people who will need medical treatment as a result of this impact, and we understand that there is no time to wait. therefore, we have already prepared the legislative basis for ensuring the full production cycle of cannabis-based drugs in ukraine, from cultivation and processing to full-scale production, so the topic of legalizing medical cannabis is not new for our society and there have already been several attempts to legislate this issue, and each time they ended with rallies of opponents who, in most cases, did not know the difference between medical and regular cannabis and equate it with the legalization of drugs but less so before the full-scale russian invasion of in ukraine, at least two million and 300,000 people needed medical cannabis to relieve

the symptoms of oncological diseases, alzheimer's and parkinson's diseases, as well as rare forms of ellepsy among children and post-traumatic stress disorder such as ptsd among the military . we can say that since 2014, this issue has become very acute for our journalist anna lenkova talked to people for whom medical cannabis is not a whim but a necessity. so let's see our next story, i have such an experience consumption of medical cannabis, i am an oncology patient with a five-year experience. svetlana was diagnosed with cancer in the second stage, the treatment was useless, now the woman has the fourth stage of cancer and it is possible to live with it for the rest of her life, if it were not for the unbearable pain, you can no longer sleep, and you can't stand you can't lie down and so on when you take cannabis oil, er, all the muscles relax and the body is calm

, you can simply rest in many countries of the world, the use of medical marijuana and drugs for its basis has become a normal practice in ukraine, while the plant is included in the list of narcotic and psychotropic substances and is prohibited, therefore our doctors are forced to look for an alternative for patients suffering from chronic pain and other disorders in ukraine anticonvulsants or drugs that are available reduce pain, but the second thing is that cannabis drugs show the best profile, that is, they are less addictive, the main substance in medical cannabis according to doctors, there is no psychotropic effect, but it helps to overcome, for example, lack of appetite , nausea and insomnia. this is also confirmed by valentina

. was talking to somehow support valentina underwent toxic chemotherapy, she had pulmonary thrombosis and a gastrostomy with such consequences of oncology treatment, the woman was discharged from the hospital 3 years ago, ordinary painkillers did not work valentina i saved myself from the pain as much as i could, so there was a second drug, then a third drug, uh, well, there are all depressants, anti-depressants, but you know, in practice, drugs are addictive , it seemed that there were no prospects anymore, relatives came to the rescue, they brought oil from spain, which was in trouble, and began to drink slowly, slowly i didn’t particularly sell anything, but gradually

my appetite started to appear, my mouth pains disappeared altogether, there are three steps in the ukrainian protocol for pain relief, but there is not a word about medical cannabis at the last stage, it is recommended to prescribe morphine. well, i have a certain stereotype that morphine is the last , the last, if a step from life is further. cannabis because it's more of a plant, it 's more of a medical cannabis, it doesn't have any side effects, er, except for dry mouth, apparently, the department of health of the state of washington , usa, conducted a study, experts concluded that in america, opioid overdose, which includes morphine and other narcotic drugs, is the leading cause of accidental death. and in the united states, where medical cannabis is legal, the death rate due

to drug overdose has decreased by almost 25%." therefore, the chairman of the parliament committee on the health of the nation, mykhailo radutsky, hopes that the unity of the verkhovna rada of ukraine this time will allow the adoption of the government bill on the regulation of the circulation of plants of the hemp genus for medical , industrial, scientific and scientific-technical purposes. activity, but i would like to explain to society the controversial issues that this topic raises, it is possible to make a psychoactive agent, margajuana herb , from hemp