with- and to save money and perform the functions that the state needs, i would read here and add absolutely that after this reduction, in fact, well, we will have the number of officials, if you are so cool, there will be as many as there are in lithuania, but lithuania has a population well, a little- a little more than, for example, in the lviv region well, obviously, this is such a slightly strange idea, i would continue in this direction, you know, in principle, we understand that this is all an idea within the broader strategy of this state of smartphones , that is, most of the functions are somehow to drive a smartphone there a and but well, in principle, we understand why this is also in order to increase efficiency in principle, for sure, and this is because public administration is very inefficient in ukraine, i have a question, in particular, for viktor tymoshchuk, let’s viktor start, what are the specific ones recommendations, one of them has already been voiced by oleg, it is of course the return of these competitions, transparent competitions, so that there are professionals in the positions, what other specific recommendations are there for the state to work effectively, well, the first recommendation is to turn

special attention to the effectiveness of our ministries , because our ministries are now not capable of effectively forming state policy, they are overloaded with administrative functions, everything has been merged in some ministries, that is, that is why, for example, we will take the minister of justice, he is more concerned with how to feed convicts in prisons, how to consider complaints about raiding, but he does not have time to form a legal policy because everything is simply poured into one apparatus and therefore it is necessary where the concentration of administrative functions should be transferred to other government agencies and, at most , also delegated to local self-government bodies, this is, by the way, one task that worries me a little in all these government documents that we see here now, there is no word at all about decentralization of powers if we are talking about taking a social block in our district administrations now about 35,000 people are working, and according to the reform, they want to leave 4,000, that is, 30 people in the district state administration, despite the fact that today the rda itself is in front of social security. well, there is no answer to where

those who will perform functions in social security will disappear for the new if a central body is formed, then it will not be a reduction, it will be a transfer of people, if these functions are entrusted to self-government bodies, and it should be done in this form, it means that resources must be redistributed, it will be the enemies of self-government, because it requires resources, so where is concentration, decentralization special emphasis on the ministries. well, and open public process. it seems to me that policy formation in ukraine has been in place for the last two and a half years in some ministries, in some sectors, even in such a for a progressive like him, the figures are closed enough, unfortunately, there is no lack of communication with the tycoulders, the bank lacks attention to the comments of various communities, associations of local self-government and the adoption of weighted balanced decisions. according to the competition, for example well,

just denisova, i have many such examples, and the same one, for example, ivanko zlenko, eh, absolutely wonderful director, manager, eh, this is one of the first given competitions that was held there in the 14th year of the national, this dovzhenko showed that a person had come who, from the ruins, actually made a functional cultural center in a year, which is very important and which became the center . i remember the streets of the municipal debt , that is, these are good, good decisions, he made really good reductions, which were not reflected in the efficiency. but it turned out that all this can still be politically influenced later, and this person can to be dismissed and that is, it then multiplies to zero in general even the holding of the competition itself, this is still an important point. if you allow it, this is a very important emphasis because public governance requires the key stability of the public service

, that is, when the parliament, governments, presidents, ministers change. it is important that this higher category, the category of the state the service was protected from arbitrary dismissal, that is, if there are claims of violations of the law, violations of integrity requirements , usually consider according to the procedure in dismiss, but that well, unfortunately, you can remember to really reprimand the current government in the 19th year, the law on the civil service was broken and then it was possible, when the minister was changed, to simply fire all high-ranking civil servants, including those from subordinate structures, after two years, only this norm a little corrected, but well, the damage was done and now we need to revolutionize somehow to try to return all this, and it is especially important to return trust to a special institution such as the commission on issues of the higher body of the civil service, but it was not returned no proper composition. that is, today it is one such one-person. it represents only the current political power. and it must represent various political spectrums and must represent civil

society so that there is trust in its decision, and this commission must not only conduct competitions and give the best candidates for positions, but also give consent to dismissal or transfer from those behind in order to stabilize the civil service, that middle level is stabilized, accordingly, evolutionarily, we can update the corps, but we do it without stress and really not only addressed to those cases when the official does not cope, thank you, thank you, viktor tymoshchuk , deputy chairman of the board of the center for political and legal reforms, was in touch with us e-e p viktor, thank you for joining our broadcast, we continue to talk about this story, which for me is very mr. kuligushko and mr. kuligushko, and actually p. tymoshchuk, this is also a question of how we understand that the government is effective, including when there is accountability.

means that a person has all the powers to do everything necessary, but he is then fully responsible for what he has done. and in our country, it often happens that the powers of the prime minister, for example, he carries out orders for some reason the deputy of the president's office, and in the end he is responsible there in general, then someone there, well there, well, in the best case, the deputy head of the regional state administration, and so on, let's talk about this moment, what in principle needs to be done in order to harmonize this very thing so that we have there was a parliamentary-presidential republic, we understood what that meant. well, it is very important that we do not have an office-presidential republic, then this is nonsense that breaks the state itself. you know , let's be honest that putin expanded his military operations and committed a new act of full-scale aggression when the state began to weaken and it began to weaken primarily due to the fact that the institutions of the state

began to break down, and today there is such a certain floundering, but a month ago the authorities wanted to liquidate the regional councils and weaken the district councils the powers of deputies, that is unheard of, we do not think about it, because decentralization, the reform of decentralization , the transfer of powers directly to the places was recognized as the most successful in the world, and when today in kherson in kakhovka, people go to rallies, it is because yesterday they understood that they have the powers not of some virtual state but the state and directly on the spot at home has the opportunity to manage, and when today this reform proposal, which is hidden under the good word of reduction, actually breaks down the management system if the communities are really deprived of decentralized powers, then this is a very, very great danger, because if we are talking about denisova, then there is a completely different situation there, there is a direct violation of the current legislation

. the law on martial law says that it is not possible to deprive the president, the parliament, the cabinet of ministers and the human rights commissioner of the powers during the war unfortunately, this is just a direct violation of the current law and the constitution and the constitution, of course, that's why i don't understand why the authorities did it, but for some reason they did it, and this is also a certain danger because who today deals with ukrainian prisoners of war , so name me a person gur of the group gur is engaged in exchange and this is something different than going there to a colony in a prison and having, according to international law, the right to access and talk with these people last hour mykola kulev, ex -presidential commissioner for children's rights, it turns out that we already lack two ombudsmen accused of the rights of the child and a human rights ombudsman while russia is mass-deporting our

citizens, abducting our children, torturing them, raping them, but these positions are actually not closed, although human rights defenders they say that you can appeal to them, but here there must be an effective, effective person who deals with this in his place and in the ombudsman's office and in the second. why are these people not there? it's just not clear, it's nonsense, in fact, kateryna was here today, of course, she is the wife of one from the fighters of azov, who is now in captivity. and she said that they have the possibility of testifying that there is actually torture as prisoners of war. well, it is possible that the light is these teeth , again, accountability, well, that is , we don't have any responsibility at all. to whom you can contact, for example, for a comment in this case, who can say that we are at least checking it, or we are not sure that this is the case, or that there is such a case, we do not know how massive it is, well , in principle, we do not have such a person. to whom should we write a complaint and in in this context, a question arises, whether

this was done on purpose, because everyone understood that 2.5 thousand of our soldiers today are prisoners of war, they definitely have a difficult fate . right, left, opposition government, every ukrainian is ready to contribute to this, but there must be a person who today representing the state and having the west, not just ukrainian, but international law, can go there to the den of the enemy and come to speak and say, i was there, i saw it, i will testify about it, and today well, the conversations of the wives are very important, the conversations of relatives - this is an extraordinary effort of the main intelligence agency. i am convinced that it is happening, but there must be a person who will go and come and say. i was there, i saw it, and this

it is necessary to stop what is still wrong. information is being made and thematic about the fact that the people's deputy of the servant of the people, the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on national security, defense and intelligence, maryana bezugla, is in the headquarters on the front lines, according to certain assumptions, giving orders to the military, which caused quite a stir among experts . media in social networks and yesterday lb.ua published extensive interview materials with maryana bezugleva, managed to talk to journalists and a member of parliament who is in lysychansk and the deputy claims that she is at the front engages in supervision and communication between the military and the higher leadership of the armed forces in order to check how the laws work, what needs to be changed, what norms directly affect how the war is waged, what do we think about it , olezhe . because it

reminds me a little of the telephone right, but in the war, no, it is unacceptable to take it and send it home, with all due respect to my colleague, the people's deputy of ukraine, well, for sure, today the ukrainian military the ukrainian military is definitely doing its job well. today, i have undeniable authority, and i am a person who has completed military service . this needs to be stopped i'm honest i'm in it i still don't believe it somewhere deep in my soul i think it's some kind of mistake but it's for sure mrs. maryana should come back to kyiv and tell friends it 's all wrong i am not at which headquarters the ukrainian military knows and knows what to do. well

, unfortunately, the material lway directs in the language, i not without reason testified and the rest after the scandal and it started during this story with boots in which i wrote some e-e reports on him in the sbu there with a request to arrest him and i don't know what, but i really hoped that in fact this mind itself is at least, well, the president until mrs. maryana well, at least this one will be taken away from this, but this is all very reminiscent of this one who knows the institute of such watchers this criminal term is from the authorities in servants of the people, in general, there is a problem with this today, because today the key thing is to unite , unite on a pro-ukrainian platform. and when today we have one in kherson who is already telling how muscovites help farmers, another is going around prisons and his is used as a person who allegedly testifies about communication with

ukrainian prisoners of war. this is another option . i do not want to give recommendations, but i am convinced that a very serious conversation is about to take place within the deputy corps of the pro-government faction and probably these things today they are harming the ukrainian parliament, today they are harming the ukrainian state and this is very, very dangerous because what is the basis of our victory unity and the armed forces of ukraine and in this context these things must be taken away about security, let's talk about it in a moment a right now we have an important inclusion, so let's switch a little to another topic, contact us petro olenych, deputy mayor of the capital for digital transformation, congratulations, mr. peter, good day, and we would also like to remind you that on june 15, the kyiv digital application started a vote on the renaming of toponym objects whose names are related to russia and its satellites, we talked about it on the air and

advertised this vote itself, peter, what are the results as of today, and tell us a little more about what citizens are invited to participate in, we will remind you that the vote continues until june 19, that is, you can still join today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, and now polenych will tell you what the salt of history actually is. digital tools that allow citizens to directly participate in the expression of their opinions officially, this is precisely and ensures that the opinion of the community is fully taken into account in the territory, so that not from these you know how we are at the moment e-e until now by all the names of the streets at any time before to rename it, well, there was a certain story that caused many scandals, many were dissatisfied, but

they were active, and we could not understand with you, well, is this really so? is it still a couple of active people who simply express a more active voice on its position, therefore, today we have a digital tool in the city, which, with the help of an id bank, provides full-fledged verification of a person, and she can express her opinion and reveal a public position on this or that issue , as of the evening, we already had 2 million votes , i.e. quite actively, people vote and choose what they want to see, the final decision will still be made by the kyiv city council, but already taking into account the opinion of the customers. i will simply try to explain why it is possible not to give everything on the basis of public opinion, this is a first-hand example. how many years ago did the people of amsterdam decide to conduct a survey on what to spend the most funds on now? well, if the city's budget is what should

be the main focus? events there, the cultural capital and so on, the elephant spends a lot of money on it, and the residents expressed their opinion that any issue of cleaning up dog feces in the parks should be fully and finally resolved that is, it shows that this issue is also important, but it is important, but it is obvious that sometimes the residents here are not able to determine priorities and strategies when we talk about renaming streets . so far it has turned out that there are only about 60 streets that can now be directed a little and this is a process, what is happening in kyiv is concrete. in fact, i don't know if these are the voices of inactive people, for sure vakhtang kipiani is one of those very he was active from the very beginning of the war, seeing the window of opportunity that was opening, in

this sense , he devoted a lot of time to russification in the city of kyiv, the capital of ukraine, and here is his simple quote. he learned a little about the cuisine of the renaming process. on the part of the organizers of the process , i.e. the apparatus of the kyiv city council well, the claims are sufficiently specific and sufficiently defined, for example, diego maradona street may appear, but it is not known whether we will even have that some football player from kyiv instead of that well and so on, that is, there are a lot of ideas out there, such as renaming theodore dreiser to uh, this one to hemingway, again, there, well, the options are not very big, so i have complaints about the fact that well, in principle, in a list of as many as 300 names. that is

, it is also necessary to have enough energy in order to devote time and know all, all, all of these options for each and every one of the three hundred toponyms , perhaps it was worth conducting an information campaign before this. well, what are your comments here? look at this and there is a part of the information company , first of all, we are atichniks after all. we deal with digital tools and our task is to make them convenient and accessible, all in any order, as far as budgets and criticism are concerned, there is no need to consult with the community. i am completely i do not agree with you, this is a false opinion, because the public budget has justified itself for more than the first year. you really cannot sell any economic or municipal issues in general. at the same time, there are issues that definitely need to be clarified parts of the community, what do they think, that's why i emphasized that the final decision is made by the

kyiv city council, this is our official representative mandate from the kyiv city council, which decisions will already determine how it should be in the end , so today, by launching the digital tool, we provided another e it is an opportunity for people to express their opinions, they are not final, they are a collection of personalized information regarding the attitude of a-a-a to a certain situation or added in this case in the name of the public budget in its turn a-a in kyiv is distributed already for the first year and has justified itself as a toolkit, as it is exactly the same a-a collects votes through digital systems , meetings of the public council are held, budget decisions are made and grounding expert on e-e one or another project is possible or impossible and is it necessary to do it, as far as we are concerned , the kyiv city council separately conducted

a survey before this, as far as i know, experts, historians, philologists were gathered, who expressed their wishes and gave recommendations that it should be in accordance with from a scientific point of view, therefore, when choosing, you see in kyiv digital e there is a mark recommended by the commission, this is a cash register recommendation of scientists regarding a possible name change on a certain street , then there are proposals that were given in writing by anyone, and i believe that it is just right when we give every kyivan the opportunity to see what was offered in general and that someone says something, it is normal, it is just a manifestation of that democracy that has become very strong in our country, i did it very early thank you well and let us remind you that the names of the heroes of this war have already been proposed in the list of proposals since

february 24, the heroes of these almost four months from the moment of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, the streets of romana, the town hall, the swing of the heroes of azov-chernobaivska and so on may appear. so on. thank you, petro olenych, the deputy mayor of kyiv for digital transformation was in touch with us . i will only say that you go to the application, which is in the digital one, click on more services , select e-democracy, where is russification then the system offers to update the application and take a vote for derisification here is a range of actually a number of these positions and all citizens of ukraine, not only kyivans, can vote, this is really important, let's listen to oleg tsenyutki about the participation budget, is there a repeat budget, the best times, i looked, he went to kyiv amounted to 150 million hryvnias

, this is supposedly a lot, but the total budget is almost 70 billion , that is, it is 0 point 5%. and state employees, because if we have 300 streets and you want, for example, to make it participatory, then take 0.5% of 300, it will be how many are six and prove that these six are simple - it's a popular vote, at least for patrice lumumba. although i don't know a dog there, some naf-naf or what do you want? well, like mickey mouse, do you want the street, please ? approach well. it seems to me that there should have been people in the commission whose competences are these. and the main thing is not so competence, if the fact that they are in their place did not cause the result informally, which i have as a philologist by education and also have a friend by the way, here is which is there, write down what you think, you know. well, by the

way, if it’s a dog, then it’s like writing a patron . okay, and i support it already without an alternative. and if i’m speaking very seriously, then i personally would not like to participate in such a commission, because it doesn’t matter to someone and you won't please because there are many more worthy people than the street in kyiv, and the discussion that is going on right now, the discussion that is going on is really very good, because there will definitely be some correct opinion that even the highest quality specialists would not take into account, but a simple ordinary resident which rethinks some different processes, it can point to the truth, a very, very important thing, some very important aspect, and this is democracy, that is exactly what should be as a standard of our behavior. a complicated process, but it's very

good that it's happening. i remember years ago in lviv. it was also a huge discussion of stepan bandera, yevhen konovalts, melnyk shukhevich, why so? no, and it was a very, very big discussion, and time has proven that it wasn't just that these were the right decisions. proved that this discussion actually managed to choose the most correct, most serious and most colorful people who reflect the realities of lviv , ukraine and the whole world, and then you managed to involve the public without the possibilities of digital democracy, then democracy fell in such a variety of colors that then it was impossible not to involve the public because everyone knew , everyone remembered and everyone was convinced that this option would be the best and the most worthy. it is very good that this process is going. i am convinced that when this process is completed, it will not

only kyiv and the whole center according to southern ukraine will absolutely then complete the process of this minimal line of ukrainization and it will be easier for us because our native will remain, which does not need a discussion about what kind of street should be here. i am not with ukraine. very often i am its direct enemy of ukraine. i am convinced that this is a very good and correct thing and we must go through this stage and this stage will definitely benefit ukraine. do you remember the 17th and 18th years when such a mass started derussification, decommunization, when there was a big step. i am convinced that it created this ground of resistance even in today's occupied territories, because

what are the muscovites doing? they understand that the strangers have come, the strangers have come, who are again trying to plant something that is not inherent to our people, well , this process of demarcation itself, this is the throwing out of these imperial markers, it began don't stop, that's exactly the question of what to consider. it was actually a very cool expert commission. ivan svarnyk recently wrote about it, he was an archivist of 30% from 1990 to 1993, they renamed 550 streets , literally 10, now they decided to cover up, well, there was another story already a little later, it seems, lermontovana dudayeva renamed it, i still remember that in the center of the city, and i'm not ashamed of this decision, it's true . people voted for a certain time correctly, the formula is when everyone can participate in the discussion

, everyone can propose. and there are people who are authorized to accept what you emphasized and be responsible for the decisions made, and in 10 years, in 20 years, if there was a person who would say well , then we proceeded from such considerations, well, that is very it's important. thank you very much, oleg senyuka. people's deputy was with us today. maria gurska and i spent 5 hours doing our informational marathon on espresso. it was a good 5 hours. i hope it was interesting for you. to the people's deputy of ukraine, who was our guest this hour, we will be back in a moment after important information messages from espresso, wait for the latest news release, i see that our colleague iryna koval is already sitting in the studio and ready to present the midday news from the espresso editorial office . greetings to everyone, i am yuriy andruhovich and i don't know. is it

a mistake or a crime? ukraine is currently waging a fierce struggle for its freedom and independence, the more surprisingly the decision to remove the expresso tv channels from the digital airwaves seems strangely criminal and unworthy. fifth and direct, very worthy journalists work on these channels, because they are very worthy people. i have great respect for many of them right now, when ukrainians are fighting for their people, for their territory, for their way , for their future, for their identity, for their values, for democracy, it became unacceptable that the third television channels were turned off which have always been oppositional and have always shown the ukrainian view of the world, this is a video appeal in support of the espresso tv channel, which i love and respect. thank you for your good work, for the fact that you always truthfully cover events and always correct about the ukrainian position, in my opinion, to turn off patriotic television channels during the

war, well, this is actually a very last thing. for this, they already did it. another question, but this is another evidence that our armed forces do their job well and give a sense of security, safety and reliability and because of that, some people in the offices of power begin to feel so carefree that they have time for intrigues, and on april 4, the rt concert illegally turned off the digital air of ukrainian independent tv channels espresso is the fifth and direct petition has been registered on the website of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine demanding that ukrainian tv channels be returned to the digital airwaves in order to sign the petition first you need to register, it's more n