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uh, and the attack aircraft went off, the rocket fell very close. the shrapnel hit the head, hit the hand, hit the left leg, uh, it was the leg, and on march 21, uh, it was, by the way, the first attempt to evacuate, which was successful, that is, i was among them i was the first person to be taken out of the air corridor from the territory of mariupol, some provisions were unloaded there, which were brought to the azastal, and all the wounded began to be loaded one by one, at first lying down in this number, i flew to the territory under the control of ukraine. they rejoiced a little. what a little не очень let's say yes, uh, by feeling, because i wanted to bring further benefit, i wanted to be
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with my people, with my promises in general. when the commander said that you need to fly out, i took a promise from him that he would organize the delivery of me when i well, as soon as i can join the formation back to zastavlyu well, but i understand that at that moment he could not say otherwise, because it was necessary for me to leave , but well, i would probably do the same to my subordinates if he needed any help, it was with joy. you spoke with denys prokopenko like prokopenko well, it was just a message in a telegram that you should be ready as uh, not even as you will be ready to join the ranks, i will contact those people. and with those people, you arrive, you take command in your hands until the moment of my return, i continued to fight, fight, as they say, until the end and i'm back again, if i were on the enemy's side, i would start to respect these guys very much. the
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new york times newspaper published a photo of a mass burial in the city of lysychansk, which is under the control of the ukrainian military, according to according to the ukrainian military, about 300 bodies of civilians who died as a result of shelling in lysychansk severodonetsk and the border region in recent months, the military explained to journalists that they have been burying bodies in the trench since april and until now they cannot bury the grave because all the equipment is aimed at building trenches. well, at the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion in mariupol, at least 1,348 civilians were killed, 70 of them were children this is stated in the report of the un high commissioner for human rights michel saw this un recorded deaths as a result of airstrikes, tank and
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artillery attacks, as well as due to the use of small arms and light weapons during street battles, bodies were found in improvised individual or collective graves in yards on the streets in parks and in empty houses, at the same time, the high commissioner noted that the true number of those killed in hostilities against the civilian population is probably thousands more. it will not be possible to find and identify all the bodies of the dead, it will be impossible to know the exact number of deaths that were caused by hostilities and those that occurred due to the lack of food, water and medical care, the report also talks about the brutality of the occupying russian troops against ukrainians during the so-called filtering, people cannot to freely leave and return to the city , including those who left mariupol in april or march. i am also concerned about how the so-called filtering process was carried out and is carried out
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of civilians, which reportedly includes arbitrary decisions of intimidation and humiliation that may amount to ill-treatment, as well as reports of family separation and threats to the right to privacy are also of concern, as are the associated risks of detention and ill-treatment for those who do not pass the filtering process, because they emphasized that mariupol is the most deadly place in ukraine, how does occupied mariupol live, let's talk further with us , petro andryushchenko, advisor to the mayor mariupol, my greetings to you. i congratulate you. what is happening in the city today, how does it live, how does it live? what do you know, the most difficult question, yes. worse and actually more
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threatening, but for example, there is already a new problem, even two global problems arise, about which in principle we warned about, including er. actually, yes, loudly and the occupation authorities, but they are the same in our places, the first is the water problem because the water is drinking water, it is drinkable water, it is taken from one named spring. summer has come. of course, the level of the springs decreases, the water becomes less, but in fact, that's why, as of today, the occupation authorities have already recognized this and the supply of water at almost all points where it was filled up to it will only be once a week, what is it like once a week to get drinking water in the heat? well, i think that i don't need to explain to anyone, yes, how am i? this is bullying, in fact, that is, people will return again to
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these uh, to this practice of taking water from anywhere it is possible to use water that cannot be used in principle. that is, we are even returning to our own long past. unfortunately, on the other hand, the new problem is related to the collapse of the medical system and is related to the change, no wonder, in the quality and quantity of medicines and we are talking about people who are suffering from diabetes because it turned out that, firstly, the insulin is not enough, and secondly, the quality of the insulin delivered by the russians does not correspond. now our doctors and people there are sources or they say that even every day they perform two or three amputations of limbs of people who are not insulin dependent, this is exactly what is happening. well, understand this modest diabetes
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, this is exactly the consequence of a-a hmm actually lack of medical experience of dose medical supervision people have access to normal insulin in the required amount, that is, there are no more military operations. and our people continue to die, and in fact, as a result, the occupiers are acting. well, this is a really terrible situation. tell me, please, in mariupol, ukraine continues to fulfill social obligations to the people, you yourself said that the doctors remained there, the teachers probably remained, the pensioners remained. they receive payments partly yes. well, everything happens with delays with problems with budgets, and now , in fact, there is a very big discussion and a lot of work. i am not in charge, but what to do with those people who stayed there and even work for the occupation authorities. if you are talking about doctors, for example, there are no questions, yes. if it is not you, you are not
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the head of the hospital, not the head of the department actually no, i went to the collaboration, all of these people are actually known to us, but most of the doctors are forced there . they are actually being held hostage, forcing them to live in the hospital. that is, well, in principle , they help the people of our mariupol people, first of all, that is, what kind of collaboration is there? another question is about the teachers, for example yes, now the share that remained there has passed on its own. well, and so on, that is, the question is difficult. but in principle, within the limits proposed by the law. yes, we continue to fulfill our obligation, in principle, all payments are not in independence, people are there or they are in the controlled territory of ukraine, it is very complicated for obvious reasons, the budget is very difficult to work, not to mention
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filling it, but we work on it every day. will even listen, but if you take mariupol what kind of politics can there be towards these people, it is impossible to even leave there, you are asking me a question that is a little more than my competence, yes, and there are several members then and uh to share thoughts on this is a matter of post, a little considering that we have a war and yet we have to get somehow uh monotonous however, i will say about our position i think it will be enough yes in principle, for the sake of understanding, we believe that people have ended up as hostages, we know that people have found themselves in a global information uh vacuum there is such a big information bubble that it's just a horror uh that's why we will be very very happy to see all the residents of
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mariupol ah safe that's why we say that they should evacuate they should evacuate even through russia, through russia, go to normal countries if we can, we try to help, we think that people do not need it and we persuade people not to return, er, understanding that it is a one-way road, but we cannot hold everyone back, such facts are when people now return, that is for us , our people remain our people, for now there is a certain category of traitor collaborators, this malaise is there, it is small, fortunately, this is a completely different situation, and in fact, with regard to state policy, it seems to me that it is time to start. another question: what are we what will we do when we return, what will we do with the people, what will we do with the people, not only in mariupol, for example, in donetsk, but there in the
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crimea, how is it going to be? communicating with people, also with our mariupol residents every day, who are here, who have just left, who are there, i understand that well, we have to understand at least recognize that a person who has been there for six months under occupation, who is in the condition in which we are now kept, for example, in mariupol, well, there are, believe me, very big questions, is she capable of adequate well, for example, is she able to elect the government yes, to take part in the elections, is it still worth launching global programs for the social and psychological adaptation of people there, and well, there are a lot of questions. well, actually, what about those people in the occupation, well, believe me, i am honest, i can be sharp enough, yes, because i can to allow the position, our mariupol people will always be mariupol people for me. they are deceiving them. they are really being held hostage. believe me, i see, i
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hear, i not only communicate. whoever wants to see, he saw, yes, it is enough to look at the faces of the people around us, they meet with collaborators on all kinds of there er, well, what do they call the stairs? yes, when the government there is conditional, er, meets with people. well, there is no happiness or support there. it is clear that psychologically , they are simply used to it. they do not compare themselves since february 22 with the state of their lives, unfortunately, they compare well, for example, with march. yes, when everything rumbled there, and it improved for them, there is a broken psyche. that’s why our people are ours . why are we going to do this with the donetsk people? i’m sorry, and that’s a different matter, but how to behave there, even children are fighting against us, who were children when the war began well and so on. that is, these are difficult questions and well, i agree that there should be work on at least a purposeful and honest policy
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of the state. to be honest and work out that it will not happen again after the victory. well, the war is because if we forgive for behaving the way we behaved in 14-15 years and saying well, not everything is so clear-cut, yes, this phrase is so famous and uh then there will be a war in our country quite quickly, this is happening, maybe there is a figure, maybe you know how many people came from mariupol because of this filtering, and there are no numbers, unfortunately. passed, who must pass it, given that
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at least half of the remaining population is able-bodied people, pensioners, people with disabilities, and so on, so in principle, most of the able-bodied population has already passed filtering, and that's why the numbers should be very large, and in fact, they are of great concern to many more people who did not come, our people who did not pass the filtering are thrown into the prisons of the donetsk region, and this is the most difficult issue for everyone. believe me, we have lists and even if say yes, that's why it's clear about the exchange about the return of people that it's not even clear about who, that is, we don't even have an idea how many people can be scattered around the prisons, those who did not pass the so-called filtering are, in principle, we, taking into account the data we received, yes from people who got out of those prisons, there are also great ones there, that's why we can say that today there are only mariupol people in filtration prisons
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, at least 10 thousand on average, plus or minus. it's clear. and what you get in prison is, well, it's too much . it's just a toilet. the number of people is also completely different . yes, different people, this is a former policeman, current policemen, to the policemen there, the prosecutor’s office , courts, journalists, activists, eh, well, that is, everyone is just a person there with statues and teeth, at least it is also there, people who are just occupiers decided that they do not know what is safe or dangerous, that is, well, this is a terrible repression , in fact, this is what you want for your comment. petro andryushchenko , adviser to the mayor of mariupol, was on radio svoboda to leave the abandoned houses in the village of shushkivki in the ternopil region, which were
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closed for decades and have now become a shelter for almost a hundred displaced people who fled under occupation or enemy shelling, this idea of ​​settling needy people from the eastern and central regions arose from the village priest before the arrival of the settlers, he prepared about 20 houses, this story was recorded by the journalists of svoboda radio, glory be to jesus christ and what are you doing and we are making a living on june 3, to come and where did the order come from the city of mykolaiv, it was very restless there, we endured it for three months, we endured it, and then when one rocket fell in the yard, the second one fell on the playground and two entrances were hit near the house, people were injured there and in the yard, a man was injured, but they didn't save him, it all
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happened somehow, so we had to go already, my father met us in ternopil, a newer one, how are you, please come in, this is ours, this is like our veranda, here we have a water tank, i made a bench, this one was painted by a woman, and these were other owners, they are gone, but you left this portrait. a woman now has a back here, and here we were given a tv . the apartment was in mykolaiv. she left a three-room room in our house. people come and go. it was deposited here. i found it from a meat grinder. it's a good thing . i had meat through her. i wrote an ad on facebook in i wrote what to whom on the page we need housing, we will accommodate people for free in the
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houses, there are no amenities in the jacuzzi and ivanna and the washing machine, this is a basin, people came here and no one refused to settle. less than a hundred people, and we actually housed an equal number of temporarily resettled people, to date more than 70 people, since we have lived in the houses for ten years. nobody lived in the houses, they were abandoned. lyudmila came, swept away the spiders, opened the house, uh, they did it. elementary, somewhere, maybe it was necessary to patch up some cracks, somewhere we had to clean up, clear the access to the house, because there were overgrown paths .
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march, we were first in the nikolaev region, then in odesa, and then here and found out. i came first with friends, yes, friends through the internet, with my son and with my daughter-in-law, and we had a granddaughter here on may 4, arina. i am very glad that we are able to help those we help people in everything. who helped to plant a garden. who helped with some things. by practicing christians well, this is the main main task of a christian to be a person and to help a person
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. including the head of the organization, antonio otelishim, very often act as a mouthpiece of fake news, this is literally a quote, this is how the russian minister reacted to the words of the un high commissioner for human rights that the russian military held 360 people in the basement of a school in chernihiv oblast for about a month, 10 of whom died. well, in general, the authorities i would like to remind russia that it rejects any accusations of crimes against the civilian population in ukraine, calling the evidence about it fakes and provocations, how quickly will ukraine be able to prove the fact of russian of crimes in the courts, let's talk further with us on the link gendus mamedov, an expert in criminal international criminal law, deputy prosecutor general of ukraine 19:21 , my congratulations to you.
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ukraine is investigating such a category of crime. unfortunately, the number of criminal proceedings today is under 18,000. it is registered as a number. more until february 24 ah, it was up to 10,000 today, if i add the amount that you mentioned under 30,000 criminal proceedings, the volume is very large, and it’s just that the national justice authorities are dealing with such shocking material. it ’s true a big question is a big challenge. that's the amount, in fact, and i believe that there will be
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even more. mothers, well, international investigators are also involved in this process, and they came to ukraine. well, it's different, because today the investigation of international crimes is being carried out by national authorities, as well as about 13 european states that have opened proceedings on the situation in ukraine also and this through the mechanism of universal law so that there are also investigators of the prosecutor's office among others here who are also investigating this production completely eh eh in different processes and eh they most likely, they should complement each other and nobody will happen again. well, if we go back to the un report, it was reported that 1,348 people died in mariupol, it was only officially
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said that the number was thousands more, but i have a question under what conditions. for example, ukraine can establish the exact number of dead people killed in mariupol because the city does not have access to this city, how is this, what practice exists, and how can it be proved in court, well, let's say the number of dead people is actually different for example uh the city authorities are called completely different figures and they are actually terrifying. for example , recently a french journalist published a video of mass preservation where about 3,000 residents of mariupol were buried, that is, in this situation, they will be. since the ideals would definitely have access to this territory, eh, we can hope that in the
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event of liberation - this territory we would be able to fully investigate this crime , but because of this, there are simply no nearby there will be a large amount of time, let's say uh, evidence that confirms uh , crimes are hidden and destroyed. here, it is necessary to use non-traditional methods, as i often say, namely, digital forensics, this is work with open sources, this is something known to journalists , work and ask to work, including as eyewitnesses who are under the control territories or in the territories of european states, well, of course, to insist on footing in european countries, what if russia really wants an objective investigation to give access, if not to the ukrainian side, at least to an investigative body to a european one that would have the opportunity
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to come to these occupied territories and investigate them well, you see some markers that russia i am interested in an objective investigation, well, today i do not see any uh- uh positive otvysov all sides of her so that they agree to cooperate uh-uh repeatedly heard from the speech of the hostess keremkhan the prosecutor's office between the second court, which calls on the russian side to cooperate, because if the ukrainian side provides the necessary facts, the crime is committed completely on the territory of ukraine, then the russian federation, with the words of teremkana, leaves his answers without attention due to such circumstances. how many can to continue the investigation, i don’t know if, to tell the truth, because i even heard such forecasts that it will take not years, but decades, well, look, uh , we had a case, for example, for months
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the criminal investigation was about uh, uh, the military diss, yes, yes, it can be investigated in different ways, uh, and in this does not say that there is a large-scale self-investigation, if this is a crime , aggression is the same thing if a man establishes an act, uh, genocide, uh, it’s just they are about humanity, war crimes, they are naturally more large-scale and more complex in their structure and essence, of course it will take some time, everything will depend on this, how long will there be access to the territories for these crimes to be committed. yes, if you go to mariupol, it will be really difficult to investigate there, it will be a challenge for the law enforcement agencies of ukraine, and here it will be necessary to think about the mechanisms for investigating these criminals, and i mean mariupol, because it was mariupol that
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most of the un report was devoted to mariupol, and there they also mentioned filtering, and journalists actually publish many testimonies about people who came for filtering, but we don't have a complete picture, even just now the mayor's adviser said how many people came for filtering how many did not pass and died? tell me, please. in what way can this process of so-called filtering be investigated? what charges can be brought against russia? is it genocide? is it something else, how to qualify it? and reports in international organizations of illegal organizations of ukraine , we can say that there are signs of crimes against humanity and even there are signs of genocide, they are especially manifested in the displacement of orphans and children in in general, in this filtration camp, as a result of the transfer to the territory of the russian federation,
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signs of genocide can be seen in these actions, and i believe that the right wing of ukraine should conduct investigations in this direction. thank you very much for your comment . windows mamedov, an expert in international criminal law, deputy prosecutor general ukraine 's 19-21st year was on radio svoboda well, i also have to share with you the latest news that arrived literally during our program to kyiv the prime minister of great britain boris johnson has arrived, this is the second time since the beginning of the full-scale invasion and immediately on the second day after the visit by the leaders of the countries of france, italy, germany and romania. said that they discussed the need for the supply of heavy weapons and air defense systems, economic support for
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ukraine, increased sanctions pressure on russia, e-e, in particular, the proposals of the international group were discussed of makpol yermak, which were handed over to european leaders, in particular, yesterday, as well as security guarantees for ukraine and the need to compensate russia for the damage caused to ukraine. this was reported by the head of the president 's office, andriy yarmak. that this is a real surprise because the meeting was not planned in advance, it was not announced in advance and it became a certain surprise, we will monitor this meeting in particular svoboda life will be back on the air already tomorrow, already on monday, i apologize. meanwhile, i urge you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet in instagram telegram twitter facebook viber where it is convenient for you and two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine until monday
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it lasts 114 days because it the large-scale russian-ukrainian war to your attention news espresso works in the studio anzhelika sezonenko units of the harrow village of ukraine forced the enemy to leave the settlement of dmytrivka of the izyum district of the kharkiv region in general on the kharkiv in the direction of the enemy is trying to prevent the exit of the armored village units to the state border of ukraine and in the rear of the russian group of troops operating in the slavic direction, the russians launched airstrikes against the positions of our units near the orphan taborov invader is trying to completely capture donetsk in the areas of orphan and metyolina, our soldiers successfully repelled assault the enemy with losses

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