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read see us on social networks facebook telegram twitter instagram we are everywhere from youtube support like and make sure that this information ee knows as many people as possible i will meet with you tomorrow at 7:00 in the morning we ask this chuk we will start the information day tomorrow at saturday ago, i'm waiting for you all here, and now i'll tell you, take care, have a good evening. goodbye. and now for your attention, a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news. let's watch it together. good evening. we are from ukraine. ukraine one step closer to the european union, boris johnson is again in kyiv, it is the 114th day of the war between russia and ukraine, about the main events. today we are talking about the bbc news broadcast live from london, this is also what happened, the european commission recommends giving ukraine the status of a candidate country. councils but
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champagne is being uncorked in brussels and in kiev british prime minister boris johnson arrived in ukraine the day after the visit of the leaders of france , germany, italy and romania and on the fourth month of the war lavrov in an interview with the bbc denies that russia invaded ukraine. the european commission recommends granting ukraine and moldova the status of candidate for eu membership, but there are certain requirements that reforms must be implemented. and by the way, georgia is not given such a status for ukraine .
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however, this is an important step towards accession, and by the way, the ukrainian authorities submitted an application for accession to the eu in the first week of the war. when the russian army was attacking kyiv. my colleague hryhoriy zhelalov is with us in connection with brussels. this happened, but what exactly happened for me, for example, the candidacy for joining the eu, it's like how in ukraine they issue a ticket for a train going to the eu, but i didn't understand when it's going or if it's going at all, how do you explain it from brussels? i'll start with the fact that the european commission usually tries to prepare such decisions that will be ready to support the countries, that is, there was a lot of hidden work here. well, not only the hidden intrigue began to pour out even the day before, when the head of the three, well, not influential, macronidragy went in fact, the countries of the european union in kyiv supported the candidate status for ukraine and this is how it was formulated today by the president of the european commission, ruslan von der lyagin, in a second we will analyze her statement
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literally into atoms together with the experts, well, now let's listen, the commission recommends that the council first give ukraine a european perspective and secondly ukraine's candidate status is all, of course, understanding that ukraine will continue to carry out a number of important reforms also destroyed the intrigue at the moment when the president of the european commission came to press conference in such a yellow jacket with blue stitching, it became clear to everyone in the hall that the decision of the european commission will be in favor of ukraine. you told moldova to provide a european perspective to grant candidate status, georgia to provide a european perspective, but for candidate status to put forward a number of conditions and after which it will become possible, well, there are also conditions for ukraine, and we will talk about everything now
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at this moment i am joined by the analyst of the new europe center marianna fakhurdinova, i congratulate you and the expert of the council of foreign policy of ukraine prizma oleksandr kray, i also congratulate you and maryanov, i start with you, you have been following ukraine's relations with the european union for many years. i have already said that he was a little bit already in many ways closed and opened, but in such statements as today, every word is often weighed carefully. these statements are checked carefully. what was your first thought when you heard the president of the european commission today, what conclusions do you draw? it is from those words that the funders chose for this statement uhu thank you well, the most important thing for ukraine is a very positive conclusion as such because it is not a refusal on the part of the european commission, it is not granting ukraine the status of a potential candidate - it is not a promise or an offer to grant ukraine the status of a
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candidate for the conditions for the fulfillment of certain prerequisites, therefore, the very decision itself was the very recommendation of the european commission and was the most positive, the most impressive moment, yes, in fonderland's speech. but if we talk about certain verbal signals, of course, i think. and many ukrainians liked the statement of the president in the commission that ukrainians, what we understand, that ukrainians are even ready to die for european values ​​for the european perspective but we want them to live we want them to live with the european dream and we will in this to support in this these words are a very symbolic gesture of support for ukraine, and now i want to turn to oleksandr a year ago, correct me if i am wrong, the status of the candidate was difficult to imagine for ukraine it seemed that brussels was ready to play its familiar record forever, a lot has been done, but even more needs to be done, in fact, quotes, what is more in
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the decision of the european commission today, the real state of affairs, whether ukraine meets the criteria or political necessity, in fact, i would rather say even geopolitically necessary, let's remember with you that very recently, europe has switched to new external political rails to the format of the so -called global europe, in fact, in many respects, this format carries through regional successes through the development of relations in neighboring close regions to reach the level of a global player who, on a level with other centers of power, will have a certain clearly defined and measurable influence, so what other success story is the success story of ukraine, which has literally been fighting for its european identity on the battlefield for many years and for the european dream, he will be able to imagine, that's why in fact you correctly marked it political interest with quite significant and quite correct geopolitical consequences and
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it was this that became the catalyst of this whole process in my opinion and i understood maryan and in your opinion, to what extent ukraine really meets the criteria , as i understand it, we are talking about the copenhagen criteria, well, especially if you compare, for example, with bulgaria and romania at the time when these countries received their candidate status and began their accession negotiations to the european union, it would be fair to note that ukraine is really not yet ready for eu membership, but it is fully qualified for candidacy, if compared with, say, the countries of the western balkans or with turkey, which are are better suited for comparison because these are countries that also have candidate status or have not integrated into the eu, ukraine is now much more qualified than these countries, let's remember, for example, turkey at the time of obtaining candidate status generally had the death penalty. and in the countries of the western balkans, the situation was much worse than in
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ukraine, if we talk briefly about ukraine, in fact, er, hmm, we are already very significantly integrated with the european union in certain areas, in particular , ukraine has already fulfilled more than 60% of the association agreement which is actually aimed at the integration of 90% of ukraine into the common market of the eu, in addition, thanks to the visa liberalization plan, which provided for a certain list of reforms for ukraine to obtain visa-free travel to the european union, thanks to this plan, ukraine managed to establish anti-corruption institutions and conduct such a unique thing like the electronic declaration of the property of officials because if we talk about the copenhagen criteria yes - these are political and democratic that ukraine should be with a functioning market economy that it should not be a democratic country in which elections are always held democratically. and this is how it happens in ukraine
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, then it is absolutely possible to say that ukraine is suitable for obtaining the status of a candidate and meets the copenhagen criteria . we also listed the demands, here are the fragments of her speech, let's also listen to the opposition to the rule of law. for example, ukraine has come a long way, it has done a lot to create the necessary institutions for the judicial system, so that it worked effectively and the necessary institutions to check prosecutors, now the focus should be on the selection of members of the supreme council of justice to fight corruption ukraine has also come a long way in creating the necessary anti-corruption bodies, so the focus now should be on the appointment of a new chairman , take these comments into account and actually correct
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this the question is almost rhetorical, because you rightly pointed out that we are already fighting these demons of ours. well, i won't say a year, i won't say two, it's a long enough time, and what can help us deal with them now much faster. obviously, this is really closer cooperation with our european partners, a more frank dialogue with them and a more qualitative assessment of what is happening in us, how the relevant reforms are progressing, it all comes to us and with the status of a candidate, secondly, it is rather a sociopolitical factor, but we understand that russia's war against ukraine in many aspects changed the perception of the population of our leadership, our processes in society and actually made unacceptable a lot of, let's say, anti-state practitioner and it is precisely anti-state that we can consider corruption to be anti-state, we can consider nepotism in all its forms, that is, one way or
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another, but the current situation despite its difficulties. despite all the horrors that are happening. the mass of the active population to the political mission, here i want to appeal to ariana again about what will happen next, after the european commission, there will be a european council, and then there will be a process of negotiations, which by itself can be very difficult and you can move there one step forward two steps back true correct i understand everything correctly a-but in fact er-e usually according to the standard procedure after receiving the candidate status the next step in integration is the opening of negotiations between the candidate countries and the eu but in the case of ukraine, first after receiving the candidate status, we will need to implement the list of seven reforms that ursu spoke about and written in the recommendations of the commission, if indeed
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the european council agrees with this decision and then already after the implementation of these reforms, ukraine will be able to start negotiations with the european union, but in fact the decision to open negotiations is also a political equality decision that is adopted separately by the european union and, in fact, it took different time in different countries, for example, montenegro started negotiations two years after receiving the status candidate of north macedonia , it took 15 years for this to happen because of the fact that it was uncertain if it had relations with other eu member states, so we need this rather political decision we must remember this in the process of negotiations, so that ukraine must do we must identify our own legislation, unify it with the legislation of the european union, er, this is done in 30 five different areas, and
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closing each audit chapter, that is, unifying our legislation with each in the field of european union legislation, ukraine will gradually move towards e-e integration with the european union after the actual agreement on ukraine's accession to the european union is necessarily signed, drawn up, ratified and from the date specified in the agreement ukraine can become a member of the european union, but actually i will add one more remark, the negotiation process, hmm, it depends entirely on the candidate state, so, for example, again, some turkey, a country in the country, there was a rollback from democracy , the country has been negotiating with the european union for 10 or more years, but when if there was such a retreat from democratic practices, the negotiations were effectively frozen, therefore it is worth understanding that the speed of the negotiation process will directly depend on the speed of the implementation of reforms in
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well, i will also make a remark to ukraine. well, let's add today, it probably took journalists half an hour at the press conference to find out what the european commission's recommendation to grant the status of a candidate country means, and also to start negotiations. here's what european commissioner vergey said today today, we are passing the first decision in everything in the process of accession, that is, we offer the status of a candidate, the beginning of negotiations on accession. to take the next step, which will be the start of negotiations on accession, but this is the next package of decisions that must be made today a-a so , oleksandr, geopolitically, ukraine's entry into the eu by force will the eu weaken literally for 20 seconds, as i already said
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, this will essentially be the first of the first story of the success of the new global europe. and to simplify things , the europeans have invested a lot in terms of image, political and financial ukraine, from a business point of view, the investments should not be lost, maryana. well, and your forecast for the eu summit, what decision will be made there too 20 seconds i really want to believe that after all, the decision will be positive this year, of course we cannot rule out some unexpected scenarios, but in principle we can already see from official statements in the press that some countries that had reservations removed them after the european the leaders in kyiv called for ukraine to be given candidate status immediately, in addition, many countries that were skeptical said that they would focus on the conclusion of the european commission, and it is positive, so in principle hmm, i would like to expect that the decision will be positive thank you very much analyst of the center for new
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europe marianna fakurdinova and expert of the council of foreign policy of ukraine prizma oleksandr kraev so zhenya ukraine is obviously waiting for a long but certainly exciting journey full of big changes work on yourself and the country will not be easy, it will not be quick well here it depends on the ability of the ukrainians themselves to carry out reforms but there is still a lot left - to wait, but if we return to the metaphor with which we started, the confirmation of the reservation is what we are waiting for next week zhenya what the ukrainian train to the eu is leaving hryhoriyu thank you, it was hryhoriy zhigalov with us in direct communication from brussels so, the status of a candidate for joining the eu, which must be approved by the 27 eu countries, at least four countries - this decision will be supported by france, germany, italy , romania, the leaders of these countries were yesterday in kyiv, macron , scholz-draiga, yoganis assured kyiv of their support, and today the british
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prime minister boris johnson came to kyiv, he met with president zelensky for a certain britain will continue to provide ukraine with weapons and offered to do the training program for the ukrainian military following johnson's visit is monitored by my colleague zhanna bezperchuk. she is in direct contact from kyiv. zhanna . this is the second visit of the british prime minister to kyiv since the beginning of the war, and as during his first visit , he assured the ukrainian authorities that support for britain, what else was learned from him today , so first of all, we can say that this visit, as experts emphasize, is a manifestation of a certain geopolitical rivalry for influence on ukraine and for cooperation with ukraine, as well as for leadership in the international anti-war coalition from the very beginning, britain was the flagship of this international anti-war coalition, the defense
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coalition of various countries of the world that supports ukraine during the war, and boris johnson, it was such a historic day when ukraine received a positive conclusion from the european commission regarding its own readiness to acquisition of membership in the european union in the future came to ukraine, at the meeting with volodymyr zelenskyi they talked about the most painful issues for ukrainians today first of all, the provision of new heavy weapons to ukraine and anti-aircraft weapons is extremely important for the protection of ukrainian cities and towns from missile attacks, which russia continues to carry out, they also discussed the issue of how to solve the problem of fuel shortage in ukraine, because the russian army also targeted an oil refinery in ukraine and on oil reserves in different regions of ukraine, and many ukrainians today feel this
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problem themselves, the issue promises to help with this, in addition, britain also promises to help demining is another painful and dangerous problem for ukrainians for unfortunately, already a large number of ukrainian regions so they talked about it britain also promises to help in the training of the ukrainian military they will undergo training in britain and under this program they will be able to participate in this program how thousands of ukrainian servicemen were announced today to zhanna's husband thank you. this is zhanna bezpyachuk, a bbc correspondent on the visit of boris johnson, the british prime minister to kyiv , one of putin's closest advisers, the minister minister of foreign affairs of russia, sergei lavrov, in an interview with the bbc, stated that russia did not invade ukraine. he repeated the kremlin's line that it was not a war, but a special military operation, which, according to him, moscow
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was forced to announce while the russian full-scale invasion has been going on for almost four months, and thousands of civilians have died destroyed cities, millions of people had to leave their homes since february 24, lavrov gave only a few interviews with the western snake, now he spoke with the bbc correspondent steve together, but this is the first time when sergey lavrov agreed to an interview from the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine the russian government created a kind of parallel reality where the invasion does not exist so we did not invade and you know we did not invade ukraine , we announced a special military operation when we had none left a way to explain to the west that he is engaged in criminal activities by dragging ukraine into nato, listen to what the head of the saroun on human rights says, she recently spoke in may, she said in the village yagidne in the chernihiv region, the russian military
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kept 360 people, including 74 children and five people with disabilities, in the basement of a school without a toilet, without water, for 28 days, 10 elderly people died, this means the fight against nazism unfortunately unfortunately, you know unfortunately, including international officials with the supreme command of the people, including, to my great regret , the secretary general of the united nations and many other representatives of the united nations are under pressure from the west and very often act as mouthpieces for the fake news that the west spreads. that is comes out again russia is white and fluffy россии такая какая она есть no russia is not white and not fluffy russia is what it is and we are not ashamed to show ourselves as we are and what about the two britons sentenced to death in the so-called dpr in the eyes of the west russia is responsible for
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the fate of these people you do not think that this death sentence listen to me the eyes of the west do not interest me at all i am only interested in international law according to international law mercenaries are not combatants because in your eyes frankly it does not matter they are not mercenaries, they served in the ukrainian armed forces, this should be determined by the court. do you think that there is an independent court? i am convinced that there is an independent court. and you think that you have an independent court . as it was said, but you know how i think there is no room for maneuver in these relations because both johnson and truss state publicly that we must defeat russia, we must bring russia to its knees well, let's bet well, let's stand serhiy lavrov has been defending the position of the kremlin on the
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international arena for many years. he has been the minister of foreign affairs of russia for 18 years and more about how russia uses its diplomatic arsenal in the war with ukraine. so, judging by this interview of lavrov with the bbc, russia does not recognize its responsibility for the aggression against ukraine for the crimes committed by the russian military and this is the rhetoric of denial that russia uses since the beginning of the war, in your opinion, the ukrainian government should react to such statements. well, it seems to me that the best reaction to this statement is from the reactions, because we all understand that these statements that deny obvious facts, when they say black when they are white, they do not lend themselves to normal rational understanding and therefore, to react is only to create an additional, so to speak, advertisement or something
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because, you know, it is a reproach to the diplomatic service and the soviet union, of which the russian federation became the legal successor tell lies, mr. lavrov today repeats a total lie about any uh-uh thing that a normal journalist puts forward to him, but i just feel a little sorry for the journalist and how he managed to endure this interview, i wanted to watch and listen to this interview, but i literally had enough for after 5 minutes, i stopped listening to him. well, co-robinberg. he works in russia. he is a journalist for the bbc in moscow, and this is not his first such interview. and when lavrov makes such statements, russia did not invade ukraine when the russian representative at the un is demonstrative. when they talk about war crimes, is this
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diplomacy? is this the kind of ultimatum that russia presents to the international community? the classic arsenal of soviet diplomacy. at one time, when i worked in the soviet diplomatic service. of some state that's why it's all happening again we 've seen it all and you know it from the impossibility of proving yourself right it's just the easiest way out you know vote with your feet don't explain and more likely no no to tell the truth and stand up and leave, and not only the representative of uh, uh, russia leaves the meeting, i wanted to ask when lavrov spoke at uh, on the joy of human rights, from which, by the way, they were later expelled, then the entire human rights council walked out and
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lavrov spoke in front of an empty hall. that is, these are the diplomatic methods they use, well , in this case, it is simply the arrogance of the russian diplomatic service and the unwillingness, at any cost, to whitewash themselves from the crimes they commit on the territory ukraine well, and even today we are talking about the european integration of ukraine, the european commission recommended that ukraine be given the status of a candidate for eu membership, and just today the russian president putin made a statement, he said that russia is not against ukraine's accession to the eu. perceive the statements and evaluate them, what does russia's position mean, what does the russian federation do? that's why you can't believe them, just like lavrov and putin, well, it's just the height of cynicism to say today that russia doesn't mind destroying the country. they say that they don't mind for ukraine to join the european union. that is, well,
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honestly, i should not attach too much importance to these unworthy statements of the russian leadership. well, let's talk about one more statement , because it concerns the sanctions that western countries have introduced against russia and, in principle, they have been introduced quite synchronously. today, in russia, the president said that the sanctions will harm those countries that have imposed them more, not because of putin's economic forecasts. here's what you think if it's a war of attrition and if it's long conflict, can the western countries get tired of the war in ukraine and reduce their support and their armed support and pressure on russia , including through sanctions? a year ago in 14, well , they watched like that. i think that there will be no such fatigue because we saw the demonstrated total
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support of ukraine, and it seems to me that from this time on, we have support that will last as long as it is needed in ukraine, and what can we say sanctions will harm those who impose them, well, this is again a cynical statement and an attempt to somehow put on a good face with a bad game. well, in fact, we must add that sanctions must absolutely be correlated with other methods of influencing the russian federation, primarily through our armed forces forces , that is, the armed forces, this is now the key for the documents , today it is the armed forces of ukraine, it depends on them what ukraine will achieve in this war, in the end, in ukraine, they will not hold the eurovision song contest next year, what does this mean for of the image of the country. i think that
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this decision will be understood with understanding. of course there will be people who will be very sad about this. in fact, we are in a country that is at war with the russian federation. anything to russia. well, if the siren sounds during this final competition, i don't know what the participants of this show will do. thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr. volodymyr khodogii was with us on the air. we have to finish our issue - it is the 114th day of russia's war against ukraine, on this day the european commission recommended that ukraine be given the status of a candidate for joining the european union, where
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is the narcissism from the president's office, why was the espresso tv channel turned off from the digital air partly yes and partly they broadcast a person who is very much in love we have a lot of narcissists, i understand what threatens ukraine , the attack on freedom of speech means what

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