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a real fact, that is, a person who votes or sabotages a decision, in this way demonstrates that she is not a supporter or a supporter of european integration. that's all about putin. it's very interesting. we'll remember the situation in 2022 by february. so russia showed us in every way whether ukraine is in the european union or not in the european union, so that you would not be a member of nato, but recently, during these days, during these 16 and a half weeks, when the european union has already demonstrated a clear political position regarding ukraine, russia, well, you know this is characteristic of putin when he cannot already influence it, he says, well, he didn’t really want to, well, you know, in fact, there is such a russian expression, хорошая
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мина, with a bad game, this is exactly the case. actually, i think that, in principle, russia can not how long will we move from candidate status? next week, i am 99% sure, we have officially received the decision of the leaders of the european union to full membership. and this road, believe me , is harder than many people think because the countries that stand before us and they have powerful lobbyists are the countries of old europe that, let's say , are starting to count. and what will happen to, for example, the european union after the accession of ukraine, if ukraine starts to act together with poland, so there are almost
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more than 60 million citizens, so there is a certain potential, certain funds, which are the european union not to invest their development funds, there are many questions, in fact, there are many here, you know, we need to learn pragmatism, realism from european politicians, and we should not look at the situation with glasses because we want it so much empathy for ukraine lasts forever. i mean not only ukraine as a state, but also our citizens, millions of our citizens who found themselves in this situation is such that we have to learn to learn every day and uh, i will say one more thesis, not very
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popular, far from all europe believes that ukraine is for it a shield against russian aggression, and european sentiment is low and believe me, millions of european citizens believe that due to the russian-ukrainian war, money is growing, the goal is to fuel, grow products, and er, because the russian prosecutor’s office there is working enough despite the restrictions russian propaganda has been there for a long time, and ms. kira wanted to add her roots there. please panic, i will give you a word with everything that mr. magda said under everything , in fact, and before that, a huge amount of russian money is now pouring into various channels in order to discredit ukraine, and under the fact that we have this sweet period when everyone supports us, well, most countries support us, and there is
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such an emotion, it will last forever, you know when i was in dublin and great britain we had one of the round arrows called from application to membership 10 years where i spoke with former foreign ministers of foreign policy of countries such as macedonia or kosovo where everyone really wanted to see them in the european union they embraced and gave the status of application and then this the emotion passed, it passed and they knocked on all possible doors with fully prepared documents and you told them yes. yes, everything is well done, but a little bit. of all the civil countries that, well, they think that they have done something on their part, and the membership is still there and not, and it was precisely our partners who warned me that we should not lose this emotional
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moment in order to take all possible and impossible steps before that it is possible to hang in this status of a candidate for a sufficiently long period, and there is really a threat that ukraine, united with poland, can constitute a great power and change the balance of power in europe, this is a position that is very clearly discussed by the countries of old europe which of course, they don't want to give up their dominant positions. that's why we need to act here. first of all, systematically, that is, not to give any chance at all to say that we didn't do something, but also very quickly. so far, all the negative phenomena from the war that russia started on our territory uh, they haven't changed the position of the citizens of european countries on irritation, well, actually, we have literally
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a minute left. i really like the words that valery pekar repeats very often, uh, actually, ukrainian thinkers, economists, teachers, in particular of the kyiv-mohyla business school, who says that it is very wrong to think that we will win, then we will start to change, that we will win, then we will still think of doing something. i think that as a people's deputy it is very good that kira rudyk is alone with someone . to go now on some roads there, or rather, not to go somewhere in lysychansk, conventionally speaking, to tell that we are here watching the president and not to release bucha, well, in the black cloak, the same, but on the contrary, actually already now well, actually, you can go on lists and you can adopt all those laws, all these changes since 1990, probably the fifth year, are known in ukraine for a long time and have already been written for today, in fact, we all just exist, just vote, that's all you want to say to the people's deputies, don't delay
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with this, will we? is the agenda and we were moving forward, then the question will be for the executive power of the body. and please believe me, do you believe that it will really be possible to awaken this constitutional majority and whether there is this political will, do you see it if the political force is called the servant of the people? it must change name on a napkin in europe he union and work that 's all well, it's the easiest actually to be honest i have quite a few bags you know something i have today on e cinema classics ministerzayut smutnye dokumenta i.e. on on the election of the head of the nabu and when the
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head of the president 's office supports the head of the president's office, says this we will just finish with a word combination and we think that this is dumb amazement, you will come to some such quiet joy in time. from the work of the verkhovna rada. thank you very much for the guide to our committee on national security . the information is now, again, not stones or gardens now, because you know, i always say when we remember something what happened it won't change anything well , in fact, it won't change anything, but there was only information that two of those wagnerites who er, they didn’t detain them, well, no matter what, whether it was supposed to be in turkey or in kyiv, who could have been put on the plane and detained, but who in some strange way er, i don’t know who did it in belarus
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, then returned them to the russian federation this special operation was actually not completed, somewhere the operation with the help of other international partners was not completed, the worst of all could not be detained, so two of these waggers were involved in the shooting of people here on the territory of ukraine. you know from the series that evil must be destroyed then when it is necessary or later it will destroy you , this is the problem and what is there maryana bezugliy well, she is there in the east of ukraine, she says that she controls the situation there, but i think that the people who are appointed to positions in the staff of the armed forces of ukraine should control the situation definitely not the people's deputies, the people's deputies , and absolutely, maryana perebynysyuk, a paris activist, a member of the ukrainian stands team , ms. maryana, i understand that you are from the city of paris. good morning. good morning from paris. it is very sunny here. it's hot here in lviv, too, although it's not paris. although i don't think it's europe, i'm
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not. by the way, i don't like it when lviv is called little paris, because it's like this one. well, i don't understand. why is that? comparison lviv is a city that is self-sufficient enough not to put any copies of the eiffel tower here but of course paris is paris i'm fine sir, i'm fine with you let's leave this lyric er and move on to what to some more political issues in our country somehow it turns out that there is something there is some there is some where i would say prejudice towards the president of france and, in general, towards the french position at the beginning of this war. a and e. i don’t know. it seems to me that this discourse is partly even under the initiative, rather to say under-supported, in particular, even by officials who do not always speak diplomatically enough about all of this. somewhere, somewhere, they cross the line in your opinion. to what extent do they meet
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this lack of diplomacy in some parts of ukraine? how fair is this criticism of france, of official paris, of macron, something that is certain a-a what is it called in france mento and at the same time a-e a certain combination of the incompatible is in general the e -specificity of the e-e internal and foreign policy of manuel macron since the time of his election a-a and in principle we can say that such is his approach to of things, he was, in principle, systematic , regularly, he was subjected to criticism in france, even in internal affairs, that is, it is not what it is not something, and what is purely specific, which concerns ukraine, of course, the debates were on the topic of whether it is worth to continue such a line that is characteristic of the manual
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macron, and this is not even about politics . rather, it is about the style of statements about rhetoric. oh , sorry, it fell out a little, and it is not exactly about politics, because politics changes more slowly than rhetoric, and the internal debates were actually about whether it is expedient to continue this traditional rhetoric for emmanuel macron in the event of a war between ukraine and russia. but after all, it was inappropriate or he did not quite understand the moment when it is necessary to express himself as clearly as possible. clearly er, along with this, it is still necessary to add, and i will add from myself, even if we take the totality of er positions of france, that is, communiques er
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and the positions of diplomats of the ministry of foreign affairs and so on, france still- has always clearly stood for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine, that is, it is more about the stylistic features of president macron than the purely french proposal. and hmm, i doubt that france unequivocally supports ukraine, but people were on the topic of stylistics, we can now hear little birds singing in paris, it’s so beautiful and in general, how does it sound in paris now? well, i’m not talking about all of france . quite heterogeneous
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population heterogeneous interests always from the region and there are its own problems well, we are talking about standing about paris, how serious is this war sounding loudly in paris today and if so, what is the loudest sound here, the threat to world security, the food crisis, suffering and abuse of people the guests who came to ukraine, everything and the macrons, they saw what was happening here in ukraine, maybe it will sound even louder now, please, this is true since the very beginning of the war. and i, since i am an activist , we are our community, and we are protesting, well, we we have been protesting against russian aggression for almost nine years, but these protests have of course intensified since the second aggression on february 24,
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2022 . covered by the media ukrainian topic i want to say that it has been three and a half months in france that there is simply no other more important topic than ukraine, and to give you an example, during this time the presidential elections and the first round of parliamentary elections were held. because here they come in two rounds e tomorrow will be the second round of parliamentary elections a-and in fact in these 3.5 months even elections er-er even the elections were talked about in the media well so actively well a maximum of er-e a few weeks a-and most of the time in the media is printed press and is occupied by ukraine and er the consideration in general, the focus, the viewpoints are very versatile
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, they maintain a certain balance in that they try to simultaneously cover the military aspect, the military aspect is of great interest to the french audience and the military aspect, and the humanitarian aspect , and the economic aspect, economic crimes , the diplomatic aspect, and that is that is, it is completely comprehensive in every way, and the french media is very mobilized on the topic of the ukrainian war, well, actually, i will ask myself, there are survey results in three countries, conducted in the netherlands, in france, in germany and approximately the same results of support exactly uh. granting ukraine the status of a candidate for the european union somewhere 46-42-45 42 - this is france a little less than in germany and in the
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netherlands, nevertheless, this support is quite uh-huh, how do you think this voter support and it is obvious that it is decisive and decisive, but to the extent that it is consistent with the mood of the french political elite and the establishment, it seems to me that the french political elites have not yet completely changed their program provision, so to speak, on which they worked for tens of years, and because we are not talking about uh, some very fast processes, but what we can observe from the time of the second invasion of ukraine, i would even say from the time that preceded this invasion, uh, so that the french the political elites are trying well, they tried extremely quickly to
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reorient themselves at least in their rhetoric in their positions precisely to the position of the french voter to give you one of the examples when the invasion of our rallies began supporting ukraine were either the presidential candidates themselves or the representatives of all the presidential candidates except those whom we boycotted with dogs because they are connected with putin's russia, but here it must be understood that even those candidates who were connected with putin's russia and all to one were forced to change their own rhetoric to unequivocal support for ukraine and even unequivocal support for the european integration of ukraine, and this is very important .
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a very important shift a-a tectonic that finally finally we all admitted that this is where we are in reality support support of the french the french support ukraine the french support ukrainian integration the french support ukraine in europe thank you very much maryana po gribinsiuk joined us in paris i want to say that this is another clarification where i said that more than 60% of support, including the 40% i mentioned. why 40% - this is unconditional and another plus 20 - this is who rather supports the provision of and opponents are about a quarter in all three countries of the opponents actually granting ukraine status this year to support not to support well, uh, uh, we are
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now transitioning, uh, and mrs. memorial was also already a member of the team from the center from ukraine uh, and now we are transitioning, so to speak from west to north, we will still talk about the belarusian threat and belarusian hope. by the way, because we always say that there was no belarusian threat . to ukraine, but there are many belarusians, hundreds, in fact, thousands, who are now fighting against lukashenka, against putin, for their own belarus, for our ukraine, serhiy bulba, head of the white legion, belarusian oppositionist, mr. serhiy. we congratulate you . i am here, we now live in the lviv region and you know there are many people here, so you listen sometimes even while walking around the city you can hear a conversation and so among friends of acquaintances that out if you go to belarus from volyn now, it means it is not far from here and from lviv, and according to that , she does not know how big the threat is there, but
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people are thinking about it, there are conversations going on, and we are all very closely watching the movements of troops, equipment and training conducted by lukashenko on the borders with ukraine, well, in particular on the borders with the volyn region e-e how real are these threats and in your opinion e what can be decisive for the self-proclaimed president of belarus lukashenka e regarding the issue of invasion or is he still waiting for some time x when it becomes of course, putin's global defeat is global, i mean global, i'm not saying what's there and then. well , it will be possible to relax, as they say. 25 hours after the signing of the union, which
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agreement was signed in 1996? television, if there is no belarusian word now , er, in belarusian, the so-called television, in fact, i rushed to the crimean scenario with it, you understand, the same as bloodless, the resistance could have been surrendered by belarus, and the means of the step i fly just became in 2020 , this is our so-called fundamentally peaceful the protests were carried out to the point that one block was walking around without rules, absolutely did not hide the illegality of anything, lupashenko even claimed that sometimes it is as if he made laws, although he is not according to the law, in my opinion, since 2005, he definitely wanted slaves, and the second is god as always walking around, you understand the concept of the rules. we don’t
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torture people who cross this line, that’s why we have an absolutely peaceful protest, and this all led to the fact that lukashenko subsequently started, if that’s how they put the country’s squeezer in prisons. thus, all the people of the opposition who were against in the 20th year, and according to the most minimal estimates, you understand that three hundred and 700,000 people left belarus, eh. you yourself understand that passion fruit is usually loved by the public 4-5 cm, and for our nation, eh, out of 9 million people, if only 300 000 potions and if so free so palpable actually took place i know exactly what i am talking about pre-sale preparation which cynically can be called lukashenko that he is no longer needed by putin, you understand if ion is looking for a place to
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show his need to putin and he is looking so you see, now he does not ride in a mask resist write moscow doesn't have any money, and i'm reluctant. i give him money, because they understand that if that's the case , his question is not the same, and lukashenko is trying to show his ineptitude. longitudinal fat shows to be there, daughter, guests are counted, she collects an imitation of a tunic that you are from the civil defense, from the civil defense, er, the soldering defense, but it’s understandable, i look at everything, it appeared when i was sincere, that in belarus, we have everything for show, you understand, if nothing is natural the army, what night is the war going on, this is just a beat pretending that i am ready to provide a guest, i decided, i did not advise, it was created. well, by the way , we have an opposition.
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they claim that chkhanovskaya does not claim that i even blew. well, it's nice, it's super. yes, it's an electric case. all that we can hear is that if it was on the circuit separately, after all, the army was unaware of my understanding, it still interrupted the concept of decisions on the trampled belarusian army will be poland, what a pity. i think that it has been for a long time. raises the ukrainian army i think that i am the host, you congratulate me about mr. serhii, are there really such sentiments, how much are they just, well, you know, it is very difficult for us to judge, because my circle of acquaintances in belarus are people who left because of the persecution of the regime,
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for example, lukashenko, yes, and those in ukraine also, well, us, the question is simply : what, what? to talk about lukashenko or to say something about putin, some kind of opinion, and so on. that is, well , again, these were the people who wanted to approach after hearing the ukrainian language, because for the last years it had been like this that the russians kept a little distance at the airports, because that's how it used to be and on the one hand, hatred, on the other hand, some kind of fear. but , again, this is the middle class, which had the opportunity to go somewhere abroad, for example, on vacation, but how much do ordinary people actually think about this war?
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there are literally three minutes, so what are your data, well, the main thing is that we belarusians live in the russian information system, you understand, and naturally, how our worldview is formed by ourselves. highlighter, what is russia doing wrong here, or is ukraine doing, in its view, the dnipro, now belarusian television is also telling a purely russian play, natural, as a section of people, yes, pravdy, if they also support it, or clearly russia soproduy is right in this war with ukraine, it is a part of more intellectual reality. i would note that i am only against him, but they don’t have chipak, and interest through the internet is westerners, and not if they are forming their understanding, but it is more natural if nala supports those who russia, but
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i’m just talking about this water of the belarusian troops. i don’t understand whether people want a picture nowadays , you understand, that’s why there is such a complex situation here. why do i say that putin, having from the reformation , did not expect to be included in the parliament of the structure of public and i don't understand that belarus is not ready, let's not come from ukraine well, we hope that it will be like that and it will be, after all, because it is actually enough. russia in belarus does not have enough forces to attack ukraine. well, i remember very well the last week before the war, when we heard such statements from everyone, so that an attack from belarus is ridiculous. i remember this story. and i also wanted to i would like to ask you literally one and a half minutes i would like to briefly mention lukashenko's statement that we are ready to defend ourselves and
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defend western ukraine if poland, in particular , tries, as he says, to seize western ukraine. to belarusians in general well, why does he have to protect us from something and to whom is this message first of all what does he want to explain to whom with such words or whom does he want to scare with such words, well, in my opinion, you are scaring yourself and yourself with the polish operational road, i do not understand what when the belarusian army everything i was forced to go to poland, then to poland, so that i could go through it. so if the text was with great understanding and great motivation, and not ukraine, i would pass by myself, because, well, collect the gloom. as i want, and i want to understand, plus such things, we are faithful and healthy, for example, the belarusian troops are now passing krishnu staff training team under the name of powder supply to the troops stationed in the temporarily occupied territory, how do you understand why i am there, what if yes, well, here they are again when you
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praise lukashenko, after all, what am i i don't understand why putin won't be able to pass any of the 5 military commands to understand me. thank you very much serhii bulba, head of the white legion, belarusian oppositionist about threats from belarus . territory of belarus well, but this is exactly the proclaimed president who usurped and seized power continues to threaten to threaten and threaten to at the same time continues to trade with the west that's how it is with us, we have a lot of vectors we continue literally in 10 minutes and now about the most important events that happened this year

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