words and i became interested in what is meant by creating an army, it is our army to create one that can, with the help of analysis, help russia or do they want to create an army that can help russia, then in principle we should talk about the fact that it should be an army of countries nato, which can help russia, and if we are talking about the ukrainian army, then it is already becoming very interesting for his beloved that before that johnson said that they are ready to train 10,000 of our servicemen there in 120 days. an interesting statement because they will not prepare 10,000 artillerymen for a week. if we talk about such numbers, it means that the units will be prepared for fully prepared , staffed and formatted units and will be prepared until the moment when this unit is ready for combat operations, and this very interesting statement

means in practice, that is, that they will help us, this applies to our army in practice. well, i understand that, in practice, it will be so that someone, for example, prepares one first, two brigades, completely brigades equipping with equipment, preparing tactically, preparing work with equipment there entirely for the equipment that will go well, the brigade will work, and then the brigade will be sent to the front, this is a very, very correct approach , as i understand it. maybe i'm wrong. and on viktor well, let's comment on one more statement, or rather , boris johnson's column which you mentioned for the british in detail, he wrote this in a column. he said that the world should prepare for a protracted war in ukraine, and that britain and its allies should take four steps to buy time for the ukrainians and allow them to win over the russian occupiers, the first step ukraine must

receive weapons, equipment and ammunition faster than russia can restore the combat capability of its units, the second step is to help ukraine maintain the ability to perform its state functions, in particular, pay salaries, pensions, education and everything else, step three in connection due to the fact that russia blockades ukraine and blocked export routes, western countries must make long-term efforts to develop alternative land routes and the fourth step russia manipulates the threat of world hunger ukrainians own grain therefore western countries should help ukraine to establish food exports to other countries and free export routes to which ukraine will be able to supply grain your comment on the steps and what a protracted war means what do you think for us in the ukrainian sense of this word, but here the situation is like this. look, where did this story about a protracted war come from, about the fact that the war can be protracted and it is good enough for us if, in principle, we look at

what and how the russian propagandists are saying now, yes, in principle, such a discourse is changing there, yes, in principle, well, we failed there , we did not succeed in this special military operation, but the goals are the same will be achieved, we will slowly push, push, push and gradually achieve the goals we set for ourselves, that is, we have enough for today, there are enough iron weapons for today, we have enough mobilization resources for today, even without bringing them there general mobilization, if we carry out this mobilization, we will still put 8 million from the moment, but we do not need it because it can cause negative trends in society, but if we are so slow to mobilize such a mobilization, then we will have enough of them in order to with its own resources, the resources of ukraine have been blocked, ukraine is losing 45% of its gdp, we are 10, that is, until now all this is

enough for us to, in principle, outrun the ukrainian army, but here the situation is that we outrun the russian army much faster than they are redrawing ours, and when johnson said it, they also listen to it, they also watch it, they also understand that, most likely, in russia there is also a change of understanding, but how long will this war drag on ? so to speak, based on his personality, first of all, he is not in danger, secondly, he has never made any concessions in military conflicts , that is, to hope that he will change his position, well, that is 1% and there is one chance for a million that he changed his position, it means to prepare for this, by the way, today he also said the same thesis about a protracted war, he said the same theses about a protracted war today for the second time already in

stolmimber this morning, his speech was also like that and he also talks about it, that is, in principle, we can the war can drag on for a certain time, how long can it drag on, well, it's hard to say how much it will be, let's say how much the sanctions will be, which can hit russia hard enough already from the end of the year. sell gas and oil, i will sell to asian countries in europe, uh, it will have enough money to pay state employees there, pay social benefits and so on. but uh, what will sanctions work on? it's very serious, it's technological things. so when we basically when they started talking about technological sanctions, not even the disconnection of banks from swift, and still another. this is not that, but chips, well, one and a half conductors that will not

be supplied to us for a long time. this is the same for ukraine, a war. what is the main threat how much can ukraine withstand in terms of even a drop in the fact that the gdp is minus 45 percent, the world bank, you mentioned this, everyone, everyone, we can , we can withstand it exactly as long as the world society will help us, but only you, as long as it helps us, we will definitely keep it, thank you thank you, the military prosecutor of the 19-20s, we will talk about the world community in the future with our next guests . nauk ivan good health congratulations good day good day goncharenko tell me, please, also the people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy goncharenko is also joining us, congratulations oleksia good day so

let's start with you so please your comments about the news and for everyone who was involved in reforms in ukraine - for all those who expected this decision to grant us an application, what does this mean and what's next, these points that we have to decide to implement so that they can be implemented quickly. is this just a convention? about receiving an application for membership in the european union . greetings to all the viewers. i would like to start by saying that the conclusion of the european commission has really met our expectations. it is very positive and indicates that, in principle, the european commission and the european union are ready to provide grants. to ukraine the status of a candidate for membership in the european union and

also presented a number of let's say so prerequisites for the start of the negotiation process in particular and this is essentially the next step in our european integration before such and such events and uh, the government did everything possible to uh, this decision was made as soon as possible. the eu must decide on the official grant of candidate status to ukraine on june 17. i would like to remind you that the day before , during the announcement of the recommendations for ukraine's modal candidate status in the eu, the head of the european commission of the whole fundline stated that ukraine should speed up the selection of judges of the constitutional court, members of the highest

the council of justice to make anti-corruption structures fully functional, in particular to appoint new heads of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office and the anti-corruption bureau, to implement the law on de- oligarchization of oleksiy goncharenko, and now we don't have the head of the constitutional court, the head of the sap, or the head of the national anti-corruption bureau . it will appear when all the hopes of ursula von der leyen will be fulfilled by the ukrainian side. this is also my hope for ukraine and personally, i congratulate everyone who is now listening to this discussion, all that you have listed is good news, good news, the very fact that we are in the european union gives us the status of a scandalous decision - it has actually been adopted and should be formally approved next week. well, of course, we do not give up, we have to work until the last

moment, but in general, we can look with full optimism at the adoption of this decision, but at the same time, it is not just a candidacy decision, but even better for ukraine for our development, therefore that the european union puts a fuse that if we don't do everything, all the conditions you listed are not the conditions for how we will move forward. and the european union says that if you don't do this, then we can even take away your status as a candidate, and this means that in our government has absolutely no maneuver here, and the whole of ukrainian politics . in the interests of every ukrainian citizen, except for corrupt officials, that we finally have a prosecutor, a specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office

. by agreement with some forces that put them there and a real judge of the constitutional court, this will mean that we will have a real professional court. well, and so on, everything that you listed. therefore, this issue is very important - very good. the news that now a very strong whip has appeared, which will push forward ukrainian politicians and ukrainian vla to fulfill these extremely important things, so we are waiting for next week , june 23. this decision must be made. points that you and i have just listed ivan well, in this conclusion of the european commission regarding ukraine's compliance with the requirements for the status of a candidate state, there is a position regarding the right of the european union to cancel this

status in case ukraine violates its obligations , what should happen if our sister is taken away from us, what obligations can we not fulfill, please ? the appropriate conditions were also set , and ukraine successfully went through this process and achieved a result. i am convinced that ukraine in this case has a lot of incentives to implement these reforms and achieve the appropriate result and start the negotiation process itself. i would like here, but separately. i would like to draw your attention to the fact that the opinion of the european commission is not only a recommendation on candidacy and these conditions and these conditions that we put forward if you look at the document in more detail. there are a lot of interesting

things about how the european union now they see ukraine in the context of those reforms that began since the signing of the association agreement between ukraine and the eu in 2014, and here we really have something to brag about and what to really see. that is, these are reforms and public administration, uh, this is a number of sectoral reforms in the context of the implementation of the association agreement for the implementation of european directives, and also that it is quite important that the european union draws attention to the great institution, well, to the institutional capacity of ukraine as a state even in war conditions, to prepare very high-quality answers to the questionnaire that was sent to us on april 8, 2022 mr. ivan well, when you talk to our foreign partners and they ask you well, they probably ask you, because this question worries everyone, why

the results of the manager's competition have not been announced yet sap that ended on december 21 last year, today is already june 19. you are answering these people, well, look, there are several points that you need to pay attention to. the first point is exactly what this question is. reforms and in general the reforms of the prosecutor's office, but my task is to convince our european colleagues that even if some reforms in our country are not going at the same pace as what they would like to see, nevertheless, ukraine is carrying out a number of other reforms of other actions, the government works effectively in the context of the european integration agenda and, accordingly, we deserve to receive the next step in european integration. well, thank you, because these same people also communicate

with anti-corruption activists, this is not only with government representatives who say, but the results of the competition are not announced, because the person who won initiated criminal proceedings against the deputy head of the president, who is in charge of the reform of law enforcement agencies, and that is why this person is not announced as the winner, for sure, well, everyone knows the answer to this question is simple, oleksiy, i have one more question regarding the seven points of all that we have to do. and here, hmm, some of them are a little obvious, but strange. in the fourth point, they directly wrote the fight against money laundering, well, despite the fact that there is a judicial reform so that everything works here, they worked despite the anti-corruption reform and at the same time carried out the fight against money laundering. well, this is as a result of all the chaos that exists in society if there are no reforms, but they wrote to us

in black and white and still uh audiovisual uh the legislation, the change in the legislation, the harmonization of the visual legislation with the european one, in particular, the european truth is called these two points a little strange and they say that well, maybe it was a demand of some countries directly like that and write to them well, maybe i will not mention something here, but these points are not really there is a problem for ukraine, and i don’t think that there will be any problem with their implementation in the parliament, in the government at the state level, and i expect and i will tell you, unfortunately, because well, really, there has been no anti-corruption prosecutor for two years indeed, for six months they can't appoint a person who won the competition there, but here i honestly see problems and i would like to call on the authorities to stop this, it's already

embarrassing the country, and well, it was clear there, well, it's unclear why it didn't happen on february 24 it was clear why it didn't happen there the first two months after february 24th, i don't know. but now it 's completely incomprehensible from the word go. that is, why it's not being done and it's necessary to stop all this so that there won't be those. yes, it's someone there who is afraid of someone, it's just necessary appoint everything and start electing the head of the national anti-corruption bureau and this will actually be a test for the ukrainian government and i really hope that it will come because it is honestly repeated that our european future is worth nothing more and nothing less. this is an absolutely historical thing, so i think i hope that these decisions will be made and right away i would also emphasize one more thing that it is not in the recommendations and requirements, but believe me , here, too, there will be questions for the future,

namely, for europe, evaluations are fundamental and we are not we are simply fighting for our independence, but we are also fighting for ukraine to have these values ​​and ukraine should not become russia, i am talking about freedom of speech, but for example, why is your tv channel disconnected there and none of the others from digital broadcasting from this t3 or what is its correct name, and no one understands that either, in fact , because they will set it up. there is no reason why it happened, it is not clear. and we need freedom of speech, we need the rule of law, we need democracy and human rights, and we ukrainians need it. this is the most important thing, but if we do not demonstrate this to our europe, then europe will not accept us, and then our future is in great question, therefore, in general, it is not just the european future, but our future in general, because today ukraine is holding on thanks to support from the free

world and in order to continue to receive this support there, it is necessary to demonstrate to them every day that we are not only bravely defending ourselves against the military machine of putin, but that we have absolutely the same values ​​as them, and those are the ones that i listed, oleksia. the first step in the return of the espresso channel in t2 is already at least espresso is actively watched in the president's office in the president's office we saw the address of the president himself in the background of this address was the audio track of our television channel, so there is a channel in the office of the president himself and we hope that the next step will be the return of our channel not only to the president's office, but also to the air in t2, so we keep our fingers crossed for us, mr. to all the presidents, mr. ivan and which of these seven points are fundamental for the european partners and well, the least perhaps it is difficult, the most difficult for us to fulfill for ukraine, how do you rate

this list of these points i would like to support mr. oleksiy in the context of the fact that it is really important to demonstrate our commitment to european values i think that in the near future we will have positive news in the context of the ratification of our istanbul convention and other reforms related to the list of these seven points is even possible before the meeting of the european council 23-24 days ago, i think that uh, this european union in general acts as a so-called soft power , so that is, uh, they stimulate by opening up some opportunities uh, the country to the relevant reforms. thus, i think that uh this is this is the possibility of obtaining the status of a candidate and in

the future the beginning of the negotiation process for which we need by the way to prepare very carefully the european integration agenda believes in it, and in principle, i think that no government, no matter who comes, will absolutely not undermine the given agenda and the given order, so i think that we all need to group together i am convinced that there will be appropriate legislative initiatives already this week, and also in the next three months, work will be actively carried out on all these points, and we will definitely achieve a result by the end of 2022. well, regarding the protracted war, i still wanted you dear colleagues and ours

experts ask, we talked about boris johnson's statement and a similar statement was made so synchronously today by nato secretary general jens stoltenberg. he gave an interview to the german weekly build and son, so he said we should prepare for the fact that it could take years about war speaking, we should stop supporting ukraine, even if the costs are high not only for military support, but also for due to the rise in prices for energy sources and food products. we are calculating and what does a protracted war mean for us, because for now? well, i constantly cite these statistics just so that ukrainians understand what to prepare for and do not indulge themselves with some illusions that our gdp, according to the experts of the world bank, may fall by 45% by the end of the year, this means that all of us will earn two times less this year than in the past. i'm

asking for your comment, actually, it's a very difficult scenario, a war for years, but unfortunately, it 's such a possibility, it's my personal hope that it 's about after all, about months and not about years, but in fact, when the west says that they need to prepare, it is clear that we need to prepare first of all mentally, because it is very easy to wait there, so they once said that it would be a week or two, but it is definitely for a week, not two, and that is why we need to mentally prepare ourselves here it is very important to prepare psychologically and society must be ready, and therefore it is better to be ready for the worst scenario and then we will be happy for the best but it is better to be ready for the worst, secondly, it poses a number of challenges for ukraine, the first is to make me in economic policy, we are now dependent from in the west, well, in the west, there is also japan, australia helps us with the help of the free world, and the direction of the

international reaches the level of the military direction, that is, it is no less important because we can have military successes. but if we do not have the support of weapons and everything else, then these successes will further turn into defeats and those that will be, well , may simply become a challenge to the existence of our state, therefore, the international direction, diplomacy , support from the countries, first of all, the european union , the united states of america, great britain - this is for it's just a question of life and death. i've just arrived from strasbourg. it starts the day after tomorrow, well, in fact, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe starts tonight, and as much as possible, colleagues, we will use this platform to strengthen support for ukraine and at least support so that it the support that we have today would not have fallen, well, and secondly. of course, this is a challenge , including for the government, that is, we have to look

for options today, and what is most important, for example, when i hear that there are colleagues coming out with initiatives there to increase taxes, to be honest, well, it terrifies me , because today the main task is that if we squeeze an extra billion hryvnias out of business today, it will do absolutely nothing for the treasury - anyway, without external support, we will not close a single month. but if we just let's finish the business, well , it will be a huge disaster, we will lose even more people and so on, not like me. today, our main priority is jobs . worked so that a person could go and earn a living in ukraine, it is simply vitally important today that the government should work on this and come up with specific initiatives

. hetmanships are not part of the ukrainian past, i am addressing mr. hetmantsev, the head of the tax committee of the verkhovna rada, who is making some pro-positive proposals and that business should be squeezed there and something squeezed out of it. well, then we will simply come to a disaster thank you, mr. ivan. briefly, is the government ready for the ukrainian economy to face the challenges of a protracted war? what should i prepare for? briefly, the government is talking about a recovery plan and also a plan, as they say , for the stability of the economy. in a positive scenario, the end of the war is really there within a few months, but we also need to prepare for the worst scenario that was voiced and work with international partners, which is exactly what we are

and we are engaged thank you mr. ivan and lastly, what a wonderful city you are in. if it is not a military secret, the beautiful sea can be passed and the infrastructure is me in kyiv, i am right next to the lavra, you see, they did not tell me yes, this is a memorial to the victims of the holocaust, this is me now i already took a closer look, thank you, because i have the impression that you are either in mykolaiv or in odesa, that's why i wanted to ask the prime minister on european integration, who is a candidate of political sciences, thank you for a meaningful euro-atlantic e-e, our discussion about our integrating it there, because this is only the beginning of the journey, it is not yet an achievement, and then we will have a short break in our broadcast, we will return to you blitzkrieg russians in the north, the first with whom we

encountered it was a reconnaissance failed thanks to such fearless warriors we took up the defense on the road as the border guard vyacheslav, callsign legate , his unit took part in the heroic defense and liberation of sumy region and gave the muscovites a lot of trouble. glory to heroes glory to ukraine army with strong rears soldiers need our support invincible thanks to exceptional training from ivan zdrotets created the organization fire of zaporozhye constantly trains zaporozhians in fire training and to medical aid you don't need to be a superhero to learn how to save a person the liberated population of front-line zaporozhye is ready to destroy the occupier, we

know that the victory will be ours and it will not be with the mountains of ukrainians, a nation of heroes, we would take, came, painted everything, purchased minimal equipment and started working to be in their place and do their job people are all grouping up working is more important than ever before we will revive our cities and our economy and we will work together so that our ukraine will prosper i am not going anywhere because we have to work so i love ukraine i was born here and i want to live here. we work with faith in ukraine. when your task is to lead the country to victory, this is the cause of my life. you are doing everything in your power for this. we approach this issue very, very specifically. congratulations to general valery

the honorable life of our ukrainian citizens is the highest value under his wise command by making it impossible for a person to consume the armed forces of ukraine are destroying the second army of the world i want to ask our people to believe in the honorable and to believe in the armed forces of ukraine glory to the heroes glory to ukraine de narcissification from the office the president, why was the espresso tv channel turned off from the digital air partly yes and partly they broadcast a person who is very much in love with us, there are many narcissists, i understand what threatens ukraine, the attack on freedom of speech this means that ukraine does not meet the criteria even for candidacy as a member of the eu and how the tv channel defends the right to broadcast see more