then there is no need because we will defend ourselves well, i would like to count it like this, mr. roman, i don't know how you would behave yourself, how would you invite putin's troops to your own country before that? of course i agree with you, but i already think that he came to pay off debts, but at the same time he understands what a precedent he has created for his people, and you understand now what a threat is hanging over him and he is trying to somehow get out of it. and he had enough courage to make such a statement well, not even me it was interesting on the sidelines to see how they communicated after that, well, in any case, i understand that, in principle, these so-called republics are not going to recognize anyone, but moscow wants to create the same republics, and in the south, this is the impression of the kherson region of zaporozhye they are also preparing something like that there. i think kazakhstan is also under

the zaglimperium on the return of all the lands that were part of the soviet union to kazakhstan, and oh, i entered there , and there is the south, the north, yes, if i am not mistaken, there is the former ural region now western kazakh yes, and they understand that. therefore , kazakhstan is also under threat now, and they also understand. and after they called putin's troops to their country and they just entered there, i think that now russia, first of all, considers them second class like them famous russians love this chauvinism. let's say yes, and secondly, i think that they now think that they have the right to come there at any moment and, let's say, save anyone , whether it's the russian-speaking people or the russian culture that is there or simply russian citizens as they always do it having issued russian passports just like that yes even at every subscription and then they come to save these people thank you thank you sir roman we

had a people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko in contact with us we talked with him about the current situation about what is happening with the war with the mood of the russians, eh, in this war of the russian leadership and with the mood of the ukrainians, we have a rather important topic this week - this is the foreign policy situation, we will now talk with hanna shelest , the director of the security program at the radio treason studio of foreign policy, the ukrainian vocation. i congratulate you , ladies. good day. in principle, it can be assumed that there are two such positions that are absolutely clearly outlined. i would say today even in the column of the prime minister of great britain, boris johnson, and in the interview of federal chancellor olif scholz johnson says that there will be a long war, that there is nothing to talk about with putin, that we should just help ukraine because if ukraine loses, no one will

feel safe, and something says that negotiations with putin are absolutely important certainly, approximately, and it is like this, i am asking , in fact, there are much more positions than just those that we know. let's say that individual leaders and macron spoke about negotiations and said something about negotiations, there was a plan of the italian prime minister, and the british position was actually known to us from the very beginning, but in short, they can really be divided into those who understand that they will have to fight and help ukraine, because otherwise this war can become wider than only on the territory of ukraine, which at the moment already the threat is not only for ukraine, there are those who still try to somehow narrow it down, including through negotiations, recognizing russian aggression, understanding that it is necessary to help ukraine, but still putting negotiations in the first place in what is important, you understand

in principle, one position does not contradict others. because everyone perfectly understands that either a complete victory against the kremlin, which is unlikely, but any fiercest conflict had certain periods of negotiations and either for a ceasefire or for the final, but the only question with which we come to these negotiations, when we come to these negotiations, and how arson they push us to these negotiations. let's say this, or at the moment, it was really created so that both sides understood that only through negotiations they can achieve something. and demonstrated in these two statements from the british and german prime ministers, in principle, this is what happened this week, that the prime minister of italy, the federal president of germany, arrived in france, the president of romania and the prime minister of great britain on the same day. in the next such an unexpected exchange of visits, there is something behind this besides the protocol. there is some kind of

disagreement in the views on the development of the situation. is it still just gestures of support, what can we do? i don't understand the protocol, but no, in this case, everything is very clear. because if we analyze the main statements after the visit of the four , they were more about european unions, about the european perspective of ukraine and the main message we received, but still, that those countries clearly support granting ukraine candidate status, britain left the european union , so it would be very illogical when the main message is ours applying, which i hope we will receive literally in a few days , that boris johnson, who is just a very serious opponent of the european union, will be present there, although he supports britain the european exchange rate of ukraine, but he just stood behind the brexit and now he has certain uh, well, scandals, problems because of the northern ireland agreement, and therefore to join of four that will talk about the european

perspective of ukraine, at the very least, it would be illogical in principle, if we talk about our candidacy, let's try to analyze it realistically, this is not a very strange candidacy for us and for moldova, when on the one hand, it is proposed candidate status. i really hope that the summit of the european union will confirm it, and on the other hand, conditions are being put forward under which the country can be deprived of this status. well, i apologize to other countries, the candidates violated certain i would say european standards are the best example - this is serbia, but it is not the only one between us, they say and nothing, they did not deprive anyone of the status of a candidate , they simply did not conduct negotiations or froze them. turkey has been a candidate for membership of the european union for 3-4 years, but no one deprives it. candidate status, why is there such a strange attitude towards us, but when turkey received candidate status, well, let's be honest, she

wasn't quite ready either, expecting that she would be more ready later, but no one told her. you you know, if you are not ready, we will deprive you of this status with us. here is such a conversation, why, well , in this case, on the one hand, it is really unique , and on the other hand, any granting of candidate status was individual. that is, it is a political decision and it can differ here, there is no there is no such clear procedure, there are no copenhagen criteria for membership, but here it is worth understanding another thing and the requirements that we received and after the fact most of the countries that received candidate status they received them before granting, that is, this there was a certain conditionality for all the countries of the balkans before granting them the status of a candidate, we were given a certain amount, this is not a gift, i really do not like it when western journalists tell me that this is a gift for ukraine, not after the association agreement, it is not a gift, but it is a certain advance, but in order to do not postpone for another year the granting of our

status to us and the moldovans because the situation is very similar here, indeed, you are right for another year, they could set the conditions now, you fulfill the seven reforms, we grant you the status of a candidate, they say no, we want already in order for you to enjoy the advantages of the candidate status, we already want to support your european perspective, but you must understand that this is an advance and you need to urgently implement these reforms, because ukraine is going together with moldova, this is an advantage, this is a disadvantage of this candidate status, it reduces the significance of our war doesn't it reduce deeply tying on the state from the candidates for war and because we reduce the weight in general then the value of our european integration and ukraine tried to get this status much before the last phase began, that is, february 2022, when we signed the association agreement,

when we were changing the constitution, we already talked about submitting an application and obtaining membership , so i think that only when we understand that there is time in the european union. it is much more and it is very a lot of internal work, first of all, then we will be able to assess why we need it, the war somewhere pushed certain european countries, not all, but certain ones, it really became such a certain push, but then moldova can say the same it is she who has pridniprovir. she has a russian threat there and she can embroider the same arguments then in brussels, but so far we have seen that both the ukrainian government delegations and the moldovan government delegations are the main emphasis during the last one month when they lobbied in european capitals, after all, they talked about the choice of civilization, about reforms, and about changes in the country, about efforts to be with the best and strongest economies and democratic countries, about the protection of human rights, that is, they talked about those things that are most important for the european

of the union for this unification. and the war was an additional factor that only emphasized that we are ready to defend our desire and our values. even because of the war in chisinau yesterday there was a joint session of the parliament in romania and the republic of moldova . this is enough. i would say unexpected. i think even for the recent the act of the past is an understanding between i won't even say between two between two states in which the romanian people live in essence, there is really one people. as putin says, only the truth is true in this case, but ukraine has someone to deal with joint sessions of the parliaments if we wanted to. it is worth it for us to do this. well, let's remember that the building of ukraine and poland is a good answer. yes , we have already taken this step, but in this case, it is also symbolic, in principle, of the same plan, which

is what ukraine at one time created between the parliamentary assembly in the countries of georgia, moldova or ukraine, poland, ukraine-lithuania, poland, that is, in this case, it is not worth overestimating, well, it is such a symbolic step - it is political support from the romanian government. in the next round to a certain union there is a union of two countries or something like that because at the moment sociology in moldova basically shows that those who would like to unite into one big romania are enough such a marginal group and despite the fact that everyone clearly yes they understand the common historical past and the common language, but there are quite a lot of differences here too, after all, and it is worth understanding that historical moldova is only a third of the part of modern romania, and every country in the last 100 years has quite seriously developed separately and already created its a-a important identity in principle if we talk about the european prospects of ukraine and we will always

discuss how it will look from the point of view of the western balkans, yes, we always said who is the first, but we can't, i myself, you know i can, mr. mrs. hanna, all the time put forward this formula that ukrainian european integration is unlikely to take place before the european integration of the western balkan countries is completed, well now it seems to me that it was the war itself - i did not change this formula i am confident because the situation in the balkans is now very uncertain. yes, and that for us, on the one hand, everything depends very seriously on the domestic political situation, on that how quickly will we be ready to make reforms? or not, because we are not afraid of anywhere now from 35- you-e-e sections with which negotiations will be opened, ukraine, e-e- legislation will be evaluated, and so on. at one time, the balkans had more support, let's say, within the same

germany, which very seriously pulled the balkan countries into the european union, but on today's moment, let's be honest, in some countries the reforms were blocked, in some the internal political situation worsened due to the struggle, somewhere the russian federation was very serious about this. well, the two biggest problems are, of course , bosnia and herzegovina and serbia. figures a plus to conflict situations both there and there, therefore at the present moment they are, on the one hand, 10 years ahead of us in candidates because it was necessary to do or wanted problems that some of them have had there for the last two or three years and seriously slowed down their process in ukraine, on the other hand, there were those 8 years where we had already done a lot according to the association agreement, but also it is not enough, as we have seen from these seven conditions that were put to us, that there are such

fundamental questions until today, and of course, every month the wars will complicate for us the process of those reforms that are needed when putin suddenly says in st. petersburg that russia is not against ukraine's accession to the european union, it causes me a kind of déjà vu because i remember how they fought with our association agreement, you remember they just sparked everything, you can't sign this signature to our national interests, now suddenly our membership means nothing, it's just maneuvers is it under the influence of this whole situation that russian policy is changing that i shudder when they heard this because i remember that somewhere in 2012 he also said exactly that nato is a threat to membership in the eu yes, please , just want to and then 2013 came year and 2014 year, we saw how important it is or not , that is, depending on how close or

not close the prospect is, vladimir putin and the people around him are changing their position regarding a-a and possibilities, somewhere it is possible to flirt with us in order to demonstrate that you are not so scary for us and nothing, we don’t want any big changes in this, and there won’t be, but in a certain way it is . talk about imperial ambitions and i think that in the coming months we will hear a lot more about the return of the great russian empire of the soviet union under any new guise and not threats because, well, why would putin show that someone is strong around yes and it can to be a threat is no longer about a threat, he is already a collector of lands, thank you, thank you, ma'am, we were in touch with the director of the security program at the studio of the foreign policy council, ukrainian prizma hanna shelest

, we talked about the foreign policy situation and we will see each other again and again. and now we are in touch with another people's deputy of ukraine, petro salamchuk . greetings, mr. dmytro. we talk a lot about what will happen to ukrainian grain, what kind of money ukraine can get, how to export e-e grain , will it now be for us the main international ones, so today even in his column in sanditanz, the prime minister of great britain spoke about this in detail boris johnson so this is really the number one topic, but the question arises. and what is happening with the farmers themselves? i hear all the time that people are afraid that it is just grain, what does this mean that people do not get a profit. can you use it in the domestic market, what about all this ? to do well,

first of all, the general most important thing is the purchase of diesel fuel, what gerari does, and the preparation of the zno of harvesters for the season, of course, and the preparation of all any premises for the storage of what. we will collect because of what, when, for that in order to exploit it, you need to pour it out of the field somewhere, save it so that the rain does not wet it, and for two months now we have been actively working with american companies to help us with mobile storage, and in my opinion they will help, there are already clear signals from some funds and politicians, because this is very important to us today, there are actually several million tons of storage facilities for ukraine that are not enough for domestic production. it is clear that there will be enough.

along the danube, we will not be able to exploit more than there 2.5 2.7 million tons. in my opinion, this is the maximum capacity, why do we need exports, if there is no export, the country will not have enough food, this will be the first thing that putin will be able to hunt for me already there in october in november er, saying that he is ready to feed the world, he is ready to save the african children there, and to provide his wheat there, and of course at an inflated price, because i am already convinced that it will rise there by 40-50% in the world price if it is not with ukrainian experts, but to him sanctions were lifted purely on ek, we need to work

, it’s difficult, but we explain that compared to the fact that in march it operated as many as 200,000 tons already in may, and the figure rose to 1.8 million for a few more ways, the expert is awarded. there are no sanctions on the agricultural complex, or are there any, or russia can’t export its grain? russia can export its agricultural machinery. there are sanctions on agricultural machinery . such manufacturers, john deere class, are now harvesting machinery. influenced by russian farmers who were standing there on sites in poland, germany, and other countries and were supposed to be supplied in the spring, uh, in principle, they did not go to russia, but were sent to other countries, because they just have wheat and, well, there is an opportunity for this.

but they are in in any case, they will wait, you know, for the peak burn situation on peremogy, the peredovolchi track, which will be no sooner than this deep autumn, well, you heard it, margarita simonyan told putin that we have every hope of famine, well, it is obvious that what simianin has on his tongue is also putin is in the head. well, you see. they say that uh, uh , please, we don't block anything, we do our own experts over there by sea. in terms of language and because it is primarily not beneficial to them, and i will also say that they will only wait for this pre-volunteer security that they themselves putin creates in order that later in october,

november, december, january, when there will be several such situations, they will come out and state what we will say there we will feed the children scams that but remove the sanctions from us and it is clear that until this period he will delay everything as much as possible because of that from our side with our american and american british german we work as much as possible and it is technically technically difficult because something is needed in a generation i will change additional now new wagons look for somewhere cars and export their products, because if ukraine cooks and feeds so much of the country, then putin will not be able to manipulate his bread, it will not work because that he, in principle, the people there will be fed by ours. and tell me this. how did it happen that after all, ukraine became such an important factor in the agrarian security of the world, after all, the amount of

ukrainian grain does not look so critical from a mathematical point of view for the third world. why is it that we in recent years, we have always been in the top three , which means that not only for us , chicken meat and honey, many other oils also apply, and it is all interdependent, and it is all interdependent completely among themselves, and many people refocused on us during kovi and the ukrainian agrarians have achieved very high technologies from many european ones, because they have already learned how to work on the land, we in agriculture have come a long way, you know how the new modern program works, which is the best program in the world. perhaps in the world in agriculture, we have come a long way, once it started in the collar 19 many exporting countries have not fulfilled their agreements on the supply of wheat there, salt is adjusted with oil, and they have stopped

completely, the expert ukraine is the only country in the world that has fully fulfilled all contacts because of that on us the client is how many markets were oriented and from us it was very comfortable to export e-e from the south of ukraine by sea to the south of north african countries, because it is close to fast delivery and there was cheap logistics there, with a lot of traffic, the delivery of a kilometer was targeted there at 10 dollars for that well, somewhere like that, what kind of ship is there $7 8 9 10 per ton, well, it’s very cheap delivery and we were checked, i say during when from 19 or why exactly during the video because i will say many countries that grow a lot of products, they stopped their exports, and they didn’t fulfill their contacts. ukraine has fully fulfilled all the last three years, have they fulfilled

all their contracts, or did the expert increase it because we basically had uh, we collected the last two seasons, uh, a lot, we grew uh, well if you think that we collected 15-20% more products than usual. and tell me, dmytro, if we follow this path of ukrainian european integration, we will receive this candidate status. i hope that they will start talking about our integration into the european union, this is not a certain problem for the agricultural industry, because there are different standards in the european union, you know other requirements and the countries of central europe, when they approached the european union, they had serious discussions about how and in what volumes even they can leave their agriculture in our country, there can be no such danger. well, rather, if we we will already become members of the european union yes, when i decided the issue there according to their gaila, it concerns the

livestock complex, yes, emissions, but our livestock complexes are not so strong, yes. and where there are modern enterprises, they are much more developed in terms of environmental standards than even the companies there in holland or germany, what concerns organic production. why does the country want to move to the 30th year? in order not to piss on the percentage of boiled land, there was organic production. go to any german store of domestic production, there are mostly ukrainians, it’s true, it’s something other than livestock equipment, in principle, it doesn’t apply to anything there, it’s more likely that there will already be questions in the fall it’s good she financed and putin will also manipulate this because 80% of dovbaeva is from

asgas, here and there, here in western ukraine already , and we are constantly communicating, many people are switching , testing, you go to another one -e dovbaeva is looking for a method, new technologies, and we have er-er, it would probably be strange if it didn’t sound like it, but for sure it is a doctor-organic products, organic production will be cheaper even in terms of cost than the usual t17 there are er-er chemicals because fertilizers will be more expensive i already i will not accept these belarusian conditions a shorter investigation of the financial world in general. how much of these belarusian fertilizers you use depends on you. you understand that, first of all, belarusian fertilizers are knees, yes, yes, most of them had viburnum.

well, all belarusian ones are because they have a lot of potassium, and about a year ago, they launched a new plant. and in principle, lukashenko has the same problem with this, because he has no way to export them to exploit both to ukraine and to other european countries, the factories can be said to be stopped. and he does not have oil and gas, he directly depends on production as his own agricultural machinery and potash, well , this is a large component of the country's budget, there is such a danger that the sanctions against belarus may be weakened in order to somehow change the situation on the market for these potash fertilizers. to belarus. i think for sure no one will exchange on their knees. well, it seems to me that no one

will do this because it has been overexerted for more than the first month . i think it may be difficult logistically, you need to navigate new contacts, but ukrainians are very talented people and they find a way out of any situation, as well as farmers and such military men and people of other professions. thank you, mr. dmytro . we are not in touch with him, we talked about the current situation in the agrarian sector, you know that now the problem of ukrainian agriculture is not surprising, it is a world problem well, number one is because russia is now doing everything possible to uh actually create hunger in the world makes another such war in the

world is connected precisely with hunger and they do not even hide that they expect that millions of people will die . the death of millions of people from hunger, well, on the other hand, why should ukrainians be surprised by this? russia organized a famine on the territory of ukraine in the 1930s of the last century. now all these russian figures, politicians, propagandists, what is the population that consciously supports all this they morally do not distinguish the gang from the executioners of the last century, it's just that now i want to torture not only ukrainians, but also everyone who will be reached by this hand of hunger, which is organized by the russian federation in the world, and that is why it is so important that ukrainian grain reaches those who need it needs we will continue our broadcast literally in er a few minutes on i want to

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