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anything and here we have to absolutely put all the dots on and what precisely because of this position they will never allow us to speak our language and they will always take away and how many prohibitions well, you know even the times when we let's say so did not belong under there were no muscovite tsars, for example, printed products from the kiev-pechersk lavra according to graphics were burned in the muscovite tsarsk at the beginning and in the first place of the 17th century, because there they considered eratism . won on the legal basis, that is how the infiltration of our culture, which was much higher than that of the muscovite empire, had just begun. at that time, i was not a means of warning, but a means of war against this cultural occupation, which was carried out, including by our educational institutions, in relation to
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the muscovite empire. they simply burned and destroyed our students, i would still like to discuss with you and focus now on the topic of this decision regarding russian literature and the ban on teaching foreign literature in the school curriculum, here you are as a historian who has read a lot of books, how useful is this decision? is it possible that certain works should be left? well, uh, still, for example, during my studies at the university, i read a book by anna politkovska, a chechen friend, and in principle, you can learn a lot from it to find out about the contents of the russian army, what they are repeating in ukraine right now, ah, or hmm, can we go further and into history there is already the same lev tolstoy haji murat, who is also about the russians, about how cruel they can be and how cruel the russian army can be, and this it could also teach something or not, after all, certain works should have been left in the programs. thank you. here
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is the question. it is actually complex. first of all, we are talking about how quietly our officials preserved russian literature under the name of foreign literature. when everything was studied in russian , even translations of foreign authors. that is, it is the first and the second about the writers in russian who will be banned. well, we must understand that the transmission of literature in russian actually indicates that we are under the influence of cultural of the russian empire, that is, if we are told that in the context of foreign literature, we will study with the same parity polish, belarusian , romanian, hungarian, slovak, writers , poets, cultural figures, that is, our closest neighbors, if we are talking about everyone. of course, it is necessary to do this with authority, but we also have to understand that
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the inferiority complex has been imposed on us for a long time. in ukraine, there are no writers of their own . to the gnome of the city tells us that pushkin is among the ten most common names in ukraine and it is safe. this is another evidence on land today that in fact, it is not the tolstoy pushkin nikolatushki who are innocent, but the russian authorities themselves, because in our country they raped their dead figures of culture and literature, presenting them as weapons for the destruction or colonization of another independent nation, therefore, in fact, these are raped dead people, we have a stove, an engine from textbooks, and with which the heads of the children tried to demonstrate the superiority of physical education is so clear, alexander, you and viktori discussed this topic during the broadcast. victoria is
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raising a daughter and who is currently studying all this school curriculum. it turned out that, for example , gogol is being taught now in uh, in literature, although gogol well, in i am personally associated with ukraine, and here the question is whether, for example, the same gogol should fall under this ban. a and e, for example, bulgakov, too, as a person who was born in kyiv, lived in kyiv, but wrote in russian and did not always write very well about ukraine. this is also true well, what about those to be activists and whether they will be banned or not, you know the main thing here is not to go to putin's neo-bolshevism, call them communists or putinists, because i don't look at the fact that vyacheslav lypinsky is a technical field, he did more than anyone from the last i don't know the convocations of the deputy corps e- i don't look at the fact that dmytro dontsov was an ethnic russian, he did much more in 20-30 years
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for the ukrainians of the world, looking at the fact that i have a surname that is any kind of rude or i will say that they are russian without knowing the history of the surname accordingly, we evaluate everything for that, you know gogol-bugator really let us understand that there was an empire and in this empire oleg gogol for example he was a ukrainian writer who wrote in russian , the official language of the empire at that time and if, for example, the forest or strauss composed music and they did not speak what kind of direct message in german, yes, in lower silesian, or in austrian, will they beat , they will help me? literature is the same music, if we say so, and it belongs to specific intellectuals who are er produced therefore, gogol is a ukrainian writer who wrote in the common imperial language, but to introduce this is a huge anchor of ukrainian identity, in fact, he
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formed the very concept of russian literature, after their pushkin, so it is clear that there is a need to separate bulgakov bulgakov, a writer who was condemned so that we understand even ukrainian soviet by writers in the 20s , because they perfectly understood that he carries things that actually destroy ukrainian identity and ukrainian culture, and contempt will happen and that's why you know, you can be just a writer who just writes or just sing and sing and don't insult someone else's nation, you can be an absolutely epic person, but what kind of writer is it who writes and tries all his anger, or this absolutely shooting head of some unknown person does chicherina who climbs tearing down our ukrainian flags , they can't just be a singer in russian, nor should she get into it and actually there was a writer who , it turns out, was not just a child of culture, it was
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not enough for them to write, it was necessary for them to write like today's a russian director to shoot films and it is definitely a bad moment to be petrenko of some kind do you understand it is the same amount category what is the topic hot topic debatable i think that the discussion will continue but the decision of the verkhovna rada has been made and from mr. oleksandr as a historian from you we received an answer that gogol has to remain in the bulgakov program i understood from your words that he should still be excluded from it. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for your position, for your comments, oleksandr alfiorovych, historian, researcher at the institute of history thanks to the national academy of sciences of ukraine. where are 15 russian oligarchs planning to kick their heels out of russia because of the war? british intelligence reports that their fortunes are decreasing every day, and their planes and
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yachts are being confiscated by sanctions. were driven to the united states of america yuriy gulak will continue in a beautiful picturesque bay on the islands of fiji, a shareholder of russian gazprom and one of the closest tried to hide the yacht suleyman karimov, one of putin's allies, a day before russia invaded ukraine, a 106-meter ship worth $300 million was moored in the caribbean sea, but as soon as russian troops began a full-scale offensive against ukraine, the ameda yacht headed for the fiji islands. however, there at the request of the us department of justice and was detained and arrested, and the day before she arrived in hawaii with an american crew on board. this is not the first and not the last yacht of russian oligarchs arrested since the beginning of the war. airplanes and villas and the amount of the arrested are already in the millions and billions of us dollars, according to bloomberg, and this is only four months into
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the war. russia's attack on its neighbor ukraine provoked a global energy crisis and exacerbated the need to achieve long-term reliable energy security and stability. to rising inflation around the world in some countries acute food shortages we must work together to reduce the consequences of this crisis sanctions have already forced tens of thousands of dollar millionaires and such people to flee russia russia is rapidly turning into an authoritarian country this is the conclusion reached by british intelligence because of the war and sanctions of the federation want to leave about 15,000 businessmen-oligarchs who, according to the available migration data, are rapidly becoming poorer every day, 15,000 russian dollar millionaires are likely
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are already trying to leave the country, the motives probably include both personal disagreement with the invasion and the desire to avoid the financial consequences of sanctions against russia. if this outflow continues , it will incredibly increase the losses suffered by the russian economy. the exception of the industry in the white house promises that the new restrictions will not give a chance for russian companies to buy goods from the united states or imported products produced with the help of of american technologies from new york yuriy gula ruslan koziv ukraine ukraine 24 marathon single news valentin glykh political analyst of the public organization slovo i dilo joins our broadcast p valentin good night good night so we are talking about sanctions and russian oligarchs 15,000 russian oligarchs can
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escape from of the russian federation, tell me how it will affect russia in general. if they take it. and in a month, two of them will go, and will they all go? first of all, 15,000 are not oligarchs, after all. that is, there simply cannot be such a number of oligarchs, the number of oligarchs can be large , but it is not unlimited, because oligarchs are always political influence, so i will tell you more that even the nature of the russian oligarchy is different from the nature of the ukrainian one, for example, that is, if in the ukrainian realities of oligarchs these are those who influence the state, well, or they influenced the state before zelenskyi started this process of oligarchization, then oligarchs, this is the product of this state. that is, in essence a feudal state, that is, they give you some wealth to manage on a large scale. how did they give it? they can take it
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by a large scale. they can really have a fairly successful business that is not connected to the state, but it is still indirectly connected to those connected to the state , well, these are facts and it is certain that the departure of such people will leave them as involuntary guests. will make it possible in order to withdraw their capital, but even if they do not succeed in withdrawing their capital, most likely their enterprises, like yours, will cease to exist in russia, that is, russians will simply lose their jobs, not in the russian budget, lose taxes. that is, it is definitely there will be a significant blow, i don't think it will be critical for the russian budget, because they still have the main part - trade in raw materials, but for the russians who work at these enterprises and receive salaries later
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go to the market and support the solvent people there , and at the expense of which, once again, small and medium-sized businesses in the russian federation exist. it will definitely be a heavy blow, so i would not underestimate theirs, you know, if you are not direct oligarchs in our understanding of these words well, those whom we call oligarchs, and they certainly won't leave so easily, because for them to leave, well, it's a mafia state. there's a code of ten exits, so i think that they will still be on this ship to the last and will go to the bottom with it, well in general regarding the female politician with a child, it should be noted that this yermak mcfall commission is working and we see that they still know that they are not limited to random meetings and discussions, but finalize it in specific proposals that later find their confirmation and are implemented that's exactly the techniques p valentin well, some of them now, to be fair,
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the oligarchs have left and are already complaining in london that they have nothing to hire cleaners and other service personnel there, but still there are it oligarchs who even the ukrainian authorities are behind of the current conditions notes their role in mediating activities, this is what i said about abramovich, the other day in the commentary of voice of america, ah, well, i noted his role in humanitarian issues, we will discuss in the process, so the question for you is whether it is worth dragging some russian oligarchs to our side after all is it worth dividing them into good and bad? no, you shouldn’t divide them into good and bad. you should just use them where you can use them. even though they are woolly, well, in this aspect, if the use of this or that character can be useful for ukrainian interests, then
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it should be used, but in no case should it be an indulgence. something some issue has been resolved and will you give me something back for this or will you not have those claims against me? well, they did much more damage because they , in fact, gave birth to this regime, served this regime and are themselves a violation of this regime. many people call abramovich himself putin's wallet, well, it's very difficult there, in general, in the russian structure, it's very difficult to distinguish where the money starts directly for this or that oligarch, it goes, the money ends, well, i don't know putin or his entourage there, there is no transparent ownership structure, this is a big problem well, by the way, this does not only apply to russian, it applies in general to many countries of the post-soviet space, which are not members of the european union, that is, there is no transparency of capital and no transparency of wealth.
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a lot of wealth can be recorded on absolutely left-wing people. sorry for the shot, that is, formally, they supposedly do not own them, but we understand that the right to property consists of three rights, this right was children, the right to use the right to dispose of us, even this general electronic declaration gave birth to a whole map of brahmins in ukraine, well, people who don't own anything, but manage everything, and it turned out that we have them all here on noble ponies . husbands or at the expense of their parents. do you think that in russia this situation is fundamentally different, just like a lot of property that is actually recorded on which is actually just a kind of such points ? can be used to achieve priority goals, it is necessary to use a-a, but you need to understand
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that, you know, they are very difficult to limit. to what limit do we use them? and from what limit will they start using us to achieve their bodies? this is a very delicate topic. there are oligarchs who were born in ukraine, who have assets here, who have a stake in assets in ukrainian enterprises, who provide jobs, are well-known brands, and make cultural projects known to the whole world, thanks to which ukraine is known, what to do with such characters and their previous activities. well, i also simply agree with the warnings that have already been expressed that if we are already in ukraine, but the course is for daewoo oligarchization, it would somehow be illogical now, well, actually speaking to fight with our own oligarchs and to launch foreign oligarchs here, but i simply repeat that it is not about the fact that we will launch oligarchs here. in our country
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, there is simply a constant exchange of concepts. the question is very simple. we need money . what kind of money can we take? well, then we have to take it. well, then we have to ask the counter question on what conditions, and if we see that the demands or the conditions that they put forward to us are incompatible and unacceptable to us, then yes, definitely, probably we will have to refuse the services of such people and their money and this of theirs but if we see that in principle, well, their demands can be theoretically and practically acceptable for us, well, then i see nothing wrong in using this resource but i repeat , this is not the inquisition, we do not trade in indulgences here , that is, if someone just now wants to trade in indulgences, it is a really bad idea, i will
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tell you so, mr. valentina. they banned entry to certain countries, his assets were blocked, the yachts were blocked, that is, he is nothing, he can't come, he can't use anything, won't this make such an oligarch even more supportive of his pocket man, who, in principle, is who gives him everything in russia, including working illegally. well, for those or by other segments of the economy, today they took one, tomorrow they will supply another, you actually have a very limited right to own all these remnants, well, that is, it only seems that it
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can be yours at all and not yours, so i will repeat that, of course, even those people who today would like to jump off this ship and break free, so to speak. yes, with these fortunes, i think they will do it. well, it is not so easy. do you have to split the summer in russian? well, you have to split it. it is necessary to drive the opponent into the place of death from which he cannot get out, because if you only drive him there, he will fight to the death, you must always leave him the illusion and the possibility that he can escape, then he forgets that it is necessary to fight to the end. i am starting to look for an alternative to that and the russian oligarchs in the same way, that is, of course, you can create conditions for them, and i am sure that they are currently creating such conditions in the world when they have the option , well, either to stay with the putin regime until the end, i will lose everything, or to try to save part of their taxes and at least their freedom and
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life by refusing to support putin's and this rashit regime, and then let them think and that, well, this is perfectly understood by the russian military and political leadership, it's obvious that 's why gray paranoia and, accordingly, repression can unfold there but the problem is that the more in pairs, the more repression, the greater the desire of potential victims of this paranoia and repression to escape from this circle, the more such motives arise in those who can become objects of repression, well it is clear that the stronger the stronger the paranoia and repression on the part of the authorities, that's why i think they have already reached the whole spiral. well, i don't know who is next, or this leviathan of states is not just eating at those people , or all these people will simply try to strangle him of the kremlin dwarf by the nickname of a moth with some kind of pie with dust, this is good, good, you finished it because i know, i think many people watched the
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fresh investigation, the fresh investigation. they are stealing, in one word, all these er property of russia er. after watching, only one question arises. and why didn’t they all stop putin? well, they all live so beautifully, beautifully. all this gas to europe and oil because everything was so wonderful why didn't they stop this catastrophe for themselves well some of them were simply in the same delusion and illusion that their fuhrer was in well if this mole can be called a fuhrer i think that well it it even sounds insulting somehow, well, i have no sympathy for the fuhrer, but it’s just that moth, well, you know, it’s
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too much of an honor, because the fuhrer is, after all, a borscht. all these chieftains and illusory views really seemed to them that now these issues will be solved very easily and they will become even richer. well, this is one moment, they just got there in the appropriate way. there are already all like-minded people, those who were more adequate and more they either dismissed it as reasonable even before that, or they were aware of the level of inadequacy of the military and political leadership of the russian federation, and they tried to distance themselves even before this conflict. well, the third part is simply that you need to realize that no one asked their opinion. well, you just need to realize that there are completely different political models you have other people's political regime there, well, no one asks for their opinion, orders are carried out and not discussed there, did you see something else there when putin
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announced his murder, while some members of the radbez there and their hands were shaking like that well, i think that they perfectly understood how it could end , but no one had enough courage to say it directly, because they would become the first victims of this regime, well, that is, each of them thought that there was what will happen there near kyiv is still unknown. and if i go out now and speak against it, i am guaranteed to lose my fortune and status , definitely. to internal political discussions, and accordingly, the space for disputes is reduced and, accordingly, the risks that a mistake by one character can have catastrophic consequences because no one can say that this is a complete delusion. what are you doing? where are we going? yes, surrounded by the russian president. and in general, military - their political top, so they are all
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formed from like-minded people. and those who thought otherwise, they either did not get there, or if they did, they sit quietly and try, you know , to cover themselves with something there and think, how can they escape there? well, i i think that people who lived in the soviet union also understand this very well, the motive of such a regime and a career in this regime is adaptation , well, that is, you either adapt and have some prospects, or i don't know, you demonstrate your fringe there, you become a dissident and, accordingly, you are repressed . it is strange that in such conditions it is clear that the entire system of incentives contributes to the fact that well, this is a swindle from an endless swathe, here is the result, but here , against the background of this, you think. well, here are the people who lost billions or even tens of billions, right? i know why they didn't have an extra billion in order to, well, how do you say to slap this moth like that,
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or is it possible to need more than one billion? well, each of them is afraid of what will happen if putin does not become. well, and that's why. well, when they still say that putin will die there, he will not die, then i am almost sure that we will learn about his death only when, uh, his entourage reaches an agreement about his successor, because the biggest problem of such regimes, this is a problem of the transit of power, to whom to transfer power, because there, the government of ukraine, on your status, everything has changed, that is, kermanych has changed accordingly, the environment has changed, there are no guarantees that tomorrow you will not earn everything with constant labor, i will not take it away and you yourself will not be killed well, there is a total the atmosphere is not trust, which i already talked about above, that is, uh, well , that is, two people are talking there, three people are rudely speaking, standing and talking, and three of them are knockers. well,
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each of them will then go and report to his friend. ask him why you stood, spoke briefly and did not report because the other two had already reported, well, you just imagine the atmosphere, well, what is completely, in fact, all of this environment, it is saturated, there is a beautiful book by fishtinsky, i already mentioned it, it is called from the red terror to the mafia state, which is described quite well these are all practices. well, they haven’t disappeared. they work. it’s really a mafia state . well, you understand that starting a rebellion is always a very risky venture, yes. that is, you are now sitting in your home. you have a certain social status in you have a certain material status. well, you will start to muddy the waters here and there, and this means that sooner or later, and if it happens to you, if your mutiny is revealed, well, it is not so easy to do. and the current russian
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political system does not contribute to the last leadership skills, it is a form, it contributes to the formation of adaptable people. have you seen this film, which was banned in the russian federation? it is very instructive for me. i advise everyone to watch it for that in order to understand how it works, the death of stalin is called on the air, he is mentioned by valentine , this is the second time this film is yes, but that is, it is comedic for foreigners, for us it is nothing comedic, it is not funny because it is real yes, the atmosphere in which our ancestors, our grandfathers lived and the atmosphere that formed a political culture thank god in ukraine we are more or less rooting it out due to many reasons i am in the russian federation this culture continues and flourishes well because here you can say it so very easy to say what to take there i'll screw up this moth, i'll slap it, well, there is a huge apparatus of secret servants in the sea, a huge number of agents, well, everyone is asking each other
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, every day the people are irritated, who does not trust anyone, well, in order to plot a mutiny , you still need it. you can't trust it, well, even how to say er, corruption is possible only in conditions of trust. well, as soon as trust disappears, everything collapses, the whole system is therefore built on the principle of personal loyalty. you understand that this family is mafia, but the family is not blood related they are still related in a different way, they are the one in the song, bound by one chain, bound by one goal , or something stupid, a mafia state, they are in a common goal, they are just, you know, let's hold hands, friends, so as not to perish alone, as their classic wrote, well, the soviet classic is not it looks exactly like this, mr. valentin, thank you for your comments. thank you for joining the marathon. the only news is valentina glynykh, a political analyst of the public organization slovo i dilo. he was with us. thank you.
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the territory of ukraine and about what is happening there. therefore, they examine every centimeter of the body and read correspondence and check all the numbers in the phone book. and if there are suspicions, they torture just like that. the occupiers filter those who passed the interrogation from mariupol and send them to miss zabutyh, even by the russians. our anastasia kataeva talked to those who went through this hell for the sake of the safety of their relatives and loved ones, we hide their faces, we look at the sports suit, no one thought that it would be like that, as she is, everyone thought that two or three days and that's it everything to return with mother, grandmother and grandfather on the outskirts of mariupol with the first explosions on february 24 left for another part of the city to a relative's apartment now you can only eat according to special planning boiler

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