without russia, as it is on our eastern borders , they will give us not only dosed weapons, but massive weapons, and the nomenclature, including airplanes and tanks, what they have there, as president macron said that such an agreement should not be given to ukraine, i do not understand this line at all, and why there are systems of volley fire here and don't give tanks don't give attack planes planes well this is some kind of strange position what is the reason for it i don't understand so if they don't do it if they don't strengthen this flank of the front until we are ready to fight i mean well, people are ready to give their lives in the east of ukraine, then they will face a direct conflict with russia, that's their

dilemma , in my opinion. they relaxed because they felt that they pushed this front further. you are no longer such a direct threat to nato and eu countries, but one or other problems will appear. russia will not retreat, so they need to understand everything equally. putin dreams, er, somewhere to face a nato country and to win or to show the incapacity of nato and only russia, the russian attack on ukraine made this step impossible, he was already almost ready for this before, by the way, about this clash about which you said a possible clash between russia and the countries, the newly appointed chief of the general staff of the armed forces of great britain the day before yesterday said that his country should have such an army that can defeat the russian one. and that it is necessary to prepare for a new war on the territory, or rather, a country in nato. it is necessary to prepare for a new war on the territories of europe, well, you see, they are already preparing, they

are preparing, well, at least in great britain they are preparing, but considering the statements coming from great britain, such serious statements, you can understand it, you can’t understand other leaders of other countries who still continue to call putin and insist on that that you have to agree on something with him, but you can't agree on anything, why are they saying this? well , again, you ask me because i, in my time, uh , well, uh, ukraine also tried it in the 14th year, uh -is to find some kind of ways to talk with putin somewhere, er, well, it will be achieved if the basic goal is to destroy ukraine and kill ukrainians as a nation, or to conquer. well, we do not want to obey, surrender, we want all this situation, our er, goals are radically different, that is, to put

it simply we understand everything perfectly well, either we them or they us. and in this situation, uh, conversations, well, this is such a story, i already said that if in this conversation they were led to the exchange of prisoners by some kind of humanitarian corridors, then it is possible to conduct such conversations but why are there 100 hours each, how is it like therapy for dictation? it must be from above, yes. now let’s talk about the united states of america. you know them very well. you served the united states of america in a bad way. so that he doesn't go further to europe, that's what he said a few days ago , uh, hmm, it's obvious that it was, well, at least i think that president biden did not say that to his internal audience, because his internal audience is now concerned about the rising prices of gasoline is a product of a tractor in this way he tried to convince his european partners that children are

somehow more active or do you think you can explain it well, you know the motivation - well, you and i can only comment on this version from you, it has the right to exist and i perceived that on the contrary he explains why for the domestic audience, that is, for the text of the taxpayer, why is it important right now in ukraine, the involvement of the americans, that is, the aid and supply of weapons, that is, i thought it was so well, besides, he just answers to the question, that is, if journalists really feel the need to explain these or other points, they ask, and he answered honestly, and in principle, well, what else could be more than this signal, that is, if, for example, it is used in such an e-e interpretation as as i said before that if putin is not stopped in ukraine, he will definitely go further, that's

100%. and it was finally understood in nato, understood in the usa that is, it was not unequivocally understood before , this is the first moment and the second. he already said joseph biden about what putin wanted in the goals he set there er, somehow the finnishization of nato and received, as he said, thealization of finland, that is, in principle, this is their kind of confrontation in absentia, and in principle, i still think that joseph biden is most likely reacting to the public mood and the mood on the eve of the elections in the united states, they will be elections the so -called intermediate but very serious in october, it is the house of representatives completely over by a third and a few dozen governors, in principle now popular is the support of ukraine

and the provision of weapons well, you are right that it is not possible the first question that the voters there are considering, but it is still in the top ten. now, what had never happened before, before the war in 2014, uh, in principle, i consider it this way. i would like to see the position in the us in the white house, i will say something like this. was formed entirely by joseph bombain because sometimes i am there i see again these voices of some of his er advisers in the white house who are again trying their line somewhere there that existed in them in the first days even after february 24th to hold i really hoped that the line of the state department and pentagon anthony the forms on i-i were lost well, the brand had er-e in the command that unites the headquarters team, it was

revalued, these people, these are the ones who are now standing on this historical fact of signing the lend-lease. i understand it, no, it’s not, it’s not in english this is a different story, but here they are, here you show them. if these people will hold a key position in ukraine, everything will be fine. that is, you mean that you can tell the hawks to hold a key position , so they are not hawks. well, they are not hawks, thank god . there is well what i did is different category of people, and we are talking about those realists. but those who, uh, are again kurilists, on the other hand, they still uh, evaluate the situation in such a way that ukraine must win, that is, i see here the key decision for america in competition with china in the future and other people who don't see it that way at all, who don't see, let's say, in europe, in

russia and ukraine, conflicts of some kind, well, the most important focus of the attention of the united states, how is it not surprising that there are such and such and them it was formulated a long time ago in exactly this way and for that reason they also have access to of the president of the united states, joseph biden, and he also listens. he makes decisions from various sources, but i say once again that rosel biden often gives answers frankly and leads a line that is formed, including by his experience for many decades and knowledge of what the soviet union is and what russia is in he has absolutely his own knowledge of all of this and the only thing i would like to say is that here too, you know, it would be very important for the united states to demonstrate a strong position and joseph biden also constantly because, for example, when they took their ships out of the black seas right on the eve of the conflict and essentially gave the

black sea to russia as a lake. well, just now there is a slide where they don’t supply something, they started to play back a little bit. and so everything took out all their nato ships, and they could have left russia to itself, didn’t it? led well, unfortunately, unfortunately, they behaved like this from the first days, and now they are gradually correcting themselves, therefore, in the usa, the leader in this usa is coordinated by rammstein, the usa maintains the strength of the anti-putin coalition, so i am so grateful to them for this. well, as always, we want to have even more. well, and we all we are grateful to them, and it is obvious. i am grateful to mr. valery ivan for joining me today in the world during the war and with their professional answers to clarify the problematic questions for me and for our viewers . to you, mr. valery well, we are moving on. there

are still 15 minutes ahead, maybe a little more, and i am already being told about what is happening on skype, my second guest, dmytro sherengovskyi, vice-rector of the ukrainian catholic university of teaching and international activities candidate of political science i congratulate you mr. dmytro good day a-a glory to ukraine let's start right away with rammstein iii on great expectations were for this gathering because considering the first two rammsteins expected something more from the third or maybe a continuation of the first two, many people got the impression that it was not a continuation. and some even say that it was even rammstein's slowing down. that was your opinion. well, we can't say that it was some braking of rammstein because there was no previous plan how everything was supposed to happen. this format is a meeting to synchronize the efforts of

our partners, both within nato and beyond, in relation to the supply of weapons because there were difficulties , and yes, we can note that from our perspective with on the ukrainian side, of course, this military aid that was received is not enough. we understand very well today that in order to turn the tide of hostilities, we need more heavy weapons, and accordingly, we also appealed to all the partners together and to each of them individually about this, but there are some countries that are slowing down a little, but if we consider it from the point of view of the format itself and the agreements that we are working out the mechanisms and the process is going, then we must state the process where no one from him he refuses, moreover, he manages to half-agree on the joint supply of not only weapons, but also attachments to it, that is why there is such a dual situation with this rammstein and what do you

mean by the process, the process is going on, the process is going on, the process of agreements is going on, yes. that is, we do not have the actual eh, as far as i know at the moment, there are such situations when it seems that some types of weapons are used by countries. well, for example, our eh, there are eastern european partners, yes, or eh, again, there are scandinavian countries and it happens by chance. so there is no eh to them for example, are there cartridges there or are there any other tools or elements? yes, it is just a matter of synchronizing so that supplies arrive at the same time, that is, it is all this synchronization, this process, it continues , continues, continues on the fourth rammstein continues and something, some kind of development must be true, well, i would not expect that there will be any too big development, but still, we have to say that at the bilateral level, the most that we will

be able to achieve at the bilateral level is individually agreed there with the americans or individually agreed with the poles did we separately agree with the slovaks, this is how the largest deliveries will go on this line. here, but in general, this format exists exclusively so that they are continuous , yes, most likely, there will not be such a situation do you know which one? well, perhaps many ukrainians expect that during some meeting of the next monthly meeting, they will give us everything on our list that we want, we have already mentioned the poles , the slovaks, but a lot of weapons are coming from them, especially from the poles, maybe you got a lot this phenomenon, explain to me why these small, well , not small, but from eastern european countries are somehow reckless, they give us so much and willingly give only weapons, and those little countries, a little to the west, they promise very often not

fulfill their promises or and they promise little at all, they promise, can you explain this phenomenon well , there are three factors, i would mention the first factor - it is that they feel the proximity of the russian threat like no other, so if suddenly, suddenly, ukraine will not win yes, and it will become quite clear that because who will be next, yes. that is, it is a very big risk here, er, the countries are actually typical for them, er, i mean, the eastern european countries, the central and eastern european countries, should accept these risks in relation to the threats, here is the second factor what motivates many of them, in particular the poles, is that they don't like the kremlin's russia as well as putin's, so for them it's a matter of honor to a certain extent, and we've heard it many times in the statements of people and other politicians, well, from the third party... let's

see, they give us the equipment that , especially if we are talking about the eastern flank of nato and that is, about the central eastern european countries, which are modifications of soviet-modified soviet weapons instead , and they are promised and they also receive already modern of weapons, even if you look at the same langlist, we have a document that has not yet been developed with specifics, but we have a document on the bill itself, which was adopted and signed by biden, it clearly states that there is a part of the funds that should go to the reinforcement of the eastern flank of nato if look at the package of the last american aid in this 40-billion-dollar package, there are also about 8-9 billion, if i remember correctly, will go to the strengthening of the same poland, so instead of conventionally speaking,

they give the old but modernized one get brand new e new weapons i understand that but again going back to germany in germany as far as i know the bundeswehr also has not the best weapons not the newest there are a lot but not the newest weapons it could work just as well give us your old one instead get a brand new one absolutely, but the other two factors that i mentioned relative to poland, but which unfortunately do not exist in germany, play a role here. well, unfortunately, let's now talk about one more thing, again, about the weapons of many, few, some of our people ukrainian politicians are accused of being too much. well, they are angry when they address in particular the ambassadors of some countries in particular. well, it’s more calm, but in our

case, where is this border between silence and visible? well, it depends on the country, first of all. yes, we mentioned , and you hinted at the denominator in germany. i personally think that this border is there, and that’s enough the rhetoric used by the ambassador is justified. and why? because, let’s say, germany archived putin ’s regime for quite a long time, and not only. they give some sort of moral right, but on the other hand , we also see there this stubbornness of the bureaucracy , which still clings to its imaginations. the old world , in which you could agree on something with someone , does not accept the reality. well, only now actually i am in shock, not for the first time when i am in ukraine. yes

, i have already expressed my positions more clearly regarding the european integration of ukraine and regarding the support of ukraine. with other countries where there is no need to remind , warn, and demand, i think that melnyk's diplomatic line in those potentially other countries would be extraordinary, but here it is necessary to emphasize one thing, why in my opinion point of view, we have the moral right to talk about it because after several world wars and just after low-level conflicts, we still agreed that there are certain procedures in which we can resolve common issues. and we will not teleport any aggression that may happen, especially if there is some country that is simply stronger and shows its aggression relative to a weaker country, let's say in the military

potential of the country, and here we again have a number of cases when yes yes, we have agreed on all this, we are building our national security, so that our politics based on these principles, but here nothing comes out, in principle we can polish this policy and here they are, extreme justice. so we definitely need to raise this thing that fucked us, but it is obvious that not only us were affected , georgians were also scared, and maybe other countries are being hurt and it will touch like this, that is, these things need to be raised, that is why i would not feel any kind of skepticism here, since we are frankly and openly talking about this, the security architecture does not work , it is necessary to absolutely open up to talk about it thank you for this explanation, because many people have certain questions about this , and they arise like this. now let's go back, let's go back, because i luckily did not talk about russia today, first let's listen to

one of putin's statements that he made at the st. petersburg international economic in the forum, then i will ask you a question, all the tasks of special military operations will certainly be sins and, in general, that is why my husband, where is the flight of our soldiers, the consolidation of russian society, whose support gives the strength and confidence of the army and the navy россии глубокое правление приваты исторический программы нашего дела страйтельный и укранение силней современный державый россии look we gave this statement of his completely did not cut out anything it is one piece she well there only the applause after the first sentence was very long that's why i cut out the applause but in this in this one statement first of all, it is about the special military operation in ukraine that these tasks will definitely be fulfilled, and the last sentences that there is a deep understanding of the historical

and justice of our construction and the strengthening of the strong and sovereign state of russia , that is, he took off his mask, that is, that's all, helping the russian-speaking people in donbas, that's all fairy tales , everything else is fairy tales here, and he didn't directly say to the whole world , as he did a few days before when he praised peter the first. now he said it that is, his task to return the land can be interpreted in this way. well, it can be interpreted in different ways. i don't want to sit in putin's head. i think that this is not a good thing and it ends with something effective, but it is obvious that it is in line these imperial neurotics are being returned to russia, and it is obvious that they are trying again to continue this level of support that exists within russia for the putin regime itself. and yes, we have seen these statistics. we have seen these polls, if they can be trusted, you in any

case so, during these conflicts, whether or not the soldiers were led by russia, support is growing and this is what the population likes, so what are they ready for, well , the majority of the population is on this, but the majority of the population, uh, likes everything that they are ready for to support and thus remember if you look at this rhetoric, first there is a full-scale russian aggression and they try various key points, and there, first, the protection, as you say, of the russian-speaking population, then the issue of the fight against the nazis, fascists, then the issue, we fulfilled our stage with some let's move on to another, but in any case, it all revolves around the idea of ​​such a special role and the imperial role of russia, which has the right to claim some of the people's territories and their conditions, this is what they have been building for a very long time. not only in recent times, but also in the time of the soviet union, this is what these

pseudo-historical articles are about, and putin and not only his er-e is so presented, that's why i don't think, i'm not strong enough to believe that he took off his mask, you know, his mask is already it was a long time ago to remove uhu well, maybe look at another statement now, unfortunately we have new temporarily occupied territories in the kherson region and zaporizhzhia, and yesterday there was information about it. novosibirsk pedagogical university offers students to go to the kherson region as teachers in order to unite ukrainian students and teach them how to fix this educational process, which is now a little stalled, and besides, we have such a problem, we have another problem that, well, you can’t

screw it up, but still, it is possible that there are few people, but they continue to receive russian passports are another problem, let's add what i am saying to the pile. what to do with these territories and this is with people who will later know and uh, on the one hand, the question is the following, that is, i will decide it as a legislative body later, because i am sufficiently ambiguous so far, as far as i know, as of now, the question uh wants although we have a law on collaborators. yes, but on the other hand, the question of obtaining passports, who gives them, does not enter into it. and so , there is a process in the post-war reconstruction. such a process as transitional justice, where

all these cases are decided conditions why how did a person get a passport, why did she cooperate with the authorities, why did she go to acts of collaboration? that is, it is in every case, you know, it will be a personal story, well, at least this is how it exists as an international practice. i think that the same thing will happen in ukraine, instead of it. the question of, for example, the educational process is extremely important. yes, that is, it is clear that on the one hand remote forms help, but the signals are very often blocked and there is simply no communication, and this is a serious challenge, so we absolutely spent in the fact that it is necessary as soon as possible, we want them to return their own territories as soon as possible no, it is not about the territory itself, here i am primarily talking about people who did not really become students of some unrecognized or recognized russian universities, god

help us to return them sooner there is little time left i want us to listen to one more statement of lukashenka, this cunning fox, then a question for you and a short answer, let's listen to the cat , yes, no, i'm already dreaming and the western country is here for us we will have to react because we cannot allow the poles to surround us at all. this is a dangerous option. when they said that the ukrainians would ask us to work with the russians so that we would help them preserve their integrity so that they would not be caught. then they wanted to take the whole thing to belarus, they sleep and see the speech of the whole country, maybe to the husband, from the black sea of ​​the baltic sea, well , once upon a time in history, was your opinion, is he serious? is this his bluff in favor of putin or he seriously thinks so, i can't say whether he is

serious, i think so, there are so many belarusians i know who are not in er in belarus they have left for a long time now, they really believe that he could be here it is from the point of view of some risks of an attack on ukraine, then i want to say that risks always exist , and we doubted 20 and i doubted that russia attacked, as we see the results, therefore it is necessary to assess the risks, but on the other hand, here it is also necessary to understand that the whole chatter in it of the proclaimed president of belarus well of course it works for the domestic consumer it works yes, that is, it should be obvious here let it work for the domestic consumer well, we must do our job to prepare to defend ukraine i thank you , mr. dmytro, for your professional answers it was dmytro vingovskyi, vice-rector

candidate of political sciences of the ukrainian catholic university of teaching, teaching and international activities well, what do we have to complete due to lack of time this was the program world during the war they talked about the world they talked about ukraine, they talked about the war with great regret, they talked with their guests today , in a week there will be new guests, there will be new topics, but it will be interesting as always, my name is yuriy fizar, see you when your task is to lead the country to victory, this is the work of my life, you do everything for it in your strength, we approach this issue very, very specifically, we congratulate general valery , the hardworking life of our ukrainian citizens is the highest value, under his wise command , he did everything possible, impossible so that a person to consume the armed forces of ukraine destroy the second army of the world i want to ask our people to believe and believe in the armed forces of ukraine

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