this bald yes, which does not depend so much on sea trade and can be used more within the country. but again, this all requires large investments. it is the increase of processing there or the production of products there that will increase the cost. and now, i apologize for interrupting you, unfortunately we have limited time on the air with analysis, because volognevski and that's all the news for today, turn us on tomorrow and have a good evening as much as possible. glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. today is the 117th day of ukrainian resistance to the russian occupation, the occupiers continue to attack

severodonetsk and lysychansk, the enemy is shelling cities and villages in donetsk region, as reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, the russians have brought rocket troops under the chernihiv and sumy regions from the bryansk region, the russians are attacking the dnipropetrovsk region, mykolaiv region and in odesa, at the same time, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment with the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine has almost 33,800 people, 1,477 tanks, 3,588 armored combat vehicles, 749 artillery systems, 238 rocket launchers, 98 anti-aircraft defense systems, 216 aircraft, 181 helicopters - 2,527 units of automotive equipment, 14

boats, boats - 130 cruise missiles, - 611 drones, 55 units of special equipment . in the european union , there is a possible split due to the maddened chief diplomat of russia and the threat of an attack from belarus on a guest politician, diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukrainian affairs in 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin mr. pavle glory to ukraine, glad to see you thank you for participating in the program glory to heroes congratulations friends congratulations to serhiy congratulations from the press congratulations to ukraine so, last friday, the european commission recommended to the member states of the european union to grant ukraine and moldova the status candidate for the european union, let's simply and easily explain to our tv viewers what gives ukraine this status, this status completely changes

the attitude of the european union to us, if before this they considered us as a partner, such a close partner yes, partners that are important to them, but now it is a completely different activity - it is because of the tourism of a common future, it is how you stand in front of a traffic light, there are tests, there the yellow must switch to green, because here it switches to green, and then there are many questions related to where to move, how to move, but that no less a green light, it means that you can move and this green light is very important to understand, it is not only for us, and by the way, not only for moldova, by the way, moldova should be very, very grateful to us. friends chisinau should really be as grateful as

possible because they are going with us on steam locomotives. well, of course, this green light is not only for us, it is a light for the entire european union, and the entire european union is beginning to consider us as part of a common future in a practical sense, this means what next week and what next week, god, i'm already lost on the 24th, yes, i think i'm lost in time, when, well, i'm lost until this week, there should be a decision at the summit, because a formal decision by the heads of state of the european union when they will actually approve this candidate status because the formal european commission - this is a recommendation, but a weighty recommendation that carries a lot of weight. and then we have to understand what conditions, what steps, what road

maps are necessary for the start of full-scale negotiations . of status , completely different funds will be opened for us, completely different programs, a completely different attitude, all bureaucracy . well, the european union is also a bureaucracy better than ours, but nevertheless there will be bureaucracy to treat us as a future member of the european union well, the last thing is the whole plan for the reconstruction of ukraine. i like the word rebuilding, i don't want to rebuild the remnants of post-soviet ukraine, but the reconstruction must be inextricably linked, just like dna, you know , just like that, with the process of joining the of the european union and on this by the way, the european commission is currently working and is well, not yet at the end of this journey, but at an advanced stage, for

me, this is actually this decision on candidate status. this is how it should be understood. well, let's let's immediately tell our viewers that there are currently five candidate countries for joining the european union: turkey, which has been in this status since 1999 , north macedonia, which has been since 2005, montenegro since 2010, serbia since 2012, albania since 2014 , how many years in your opinion, ukraine can spend in order to gain full membership in the european union depends on us and depends on the european union. i expect that not only we have to fundamentally change and the european union has to fundamentally change, there is a lot of talk about this that such a political core will appear, uh, very uh, very

united, it will include the founding countries. maybe a few more countries, that is, those who actually want to, and i have such a feeling, i will not speculate , but there is such a feeling from my sources, including paris, that emmanuel macron would very much like, after the end of his term as president of france, to be elected as the first president of the european union, that is, of that political european union , and it will be directly the european union as we now know it, which ukraine will join. i believe that we can jump in for this, a lot is needed, a lot is needed from the point of view of changing our mentality. yes, we europeans, unlike the russians, it is already europe, when in hd the rest,

they understood that russia is not just about putin. as a dictator, it is not just about the eurasian and russian elites who have a revanchist imperial rivet in their heads, but also about russians who are the same for whom this medieval structure is a conditional boyars and what is it called there shacks this is something that can exist and an increase in territory this is the only thing they are worried about and what we are killing our heads from a young age. they can be proud, but in europe they are beginning to understand this, they are beginning to understand that we are europeans, why we are fighting, they are beginning to understand our medieval history, they are beginning to understand that there was magdeburg law in ukrainian cities, they are beginning to understand that our society completely different from russian, but we

talked a lot about it, er, just now, er, they didn’t just hear it, they felt it and are starting to act on the basis of what they feel, so i want to continue for years it is for someone or not we will remain the border of europe and the civilized world and it is very important for us to keep this emotion citonus in europe to the western society so that they understand that we are not just shouting slogans when we say that we are protecting them and that this is actually protection without any father i don't know what this eurasianism is. what kind of mongolian russian medieval horde will one way or another pass to europe in rome. i want to remind you that once upon a time, they also did not believe that the guards would come, but in the end they quickly believed. therefore, now these analogies, whatever they are

far away, they are beginning to enter the heads of europeans just as it is beginning to enter that dependence on russia is actually a crime, it is worse than, well, you know the well-known expression k worse is not a crime only by mistakes well, here is a mistake and a crime in one well, everyone in st. petersburg felt putin ego, all the statements of his understanding, where are they going to go , that's why i actually see that the european union finally understood the first of the gray areas, there can no longer be any buffers, there are bridges, er, all this madness , er, the second point is being forgotten, that ukraine should be a member of the european union, the third is that there will be no reductions in the process of our accession to the european union, we really have to transform ourselves and the way we live, and

the last thing i will say is that it does not turn into some kind of lecture . they will say, what should we do with this ukraine, on the one hand, it is weak from the point of view of how the institute works, but on the other hand , we see people and ukrainians who are actually the coolest in europe, who are probably the last, who is ready to fight for themselves with with weapons in their hands demonstrate that freedom and dignity are not some words that can be written on facebook, but in fact much more, and with such a country it will be very difficult to conduct this entire european integration negotiation process, and we must convey to the europeans, well, as much to the politicians as to the people, what is really this is a very large cost and a very large profit from the fact that all of ukraine

will eventually be a member of the european union , and this is not obvious and not a simple story. the high price of the lives of our soldiers and people who fought for european values ​​and not for the presence of ukraine in some customs union or at the st. petersburg economic forum is a fateful historical decision. zelensky tomorrow begins a truly historic day a week when we will hear the answer from the european union on the status of a candidate for ukraine almost a positive decision of the european commission at the end of the new week will be

answers of the european council i think it is obvious to everyone that in 1991 there were not many such fateful decisions for ukraine as we expect now . i am sure that only a positive decision is in the interest of the whole of europe. who are members of the european council, if any member of the eu blocks the decision on the application of ukraine, what will happen then, then the decision will be postponed to the next summit. i think that this will not happen. russia wanted this very much, you see what is happening now is happening, russia has started energy blackmail, it is reducing the flow of gas to germany, france, and

italy and is trying to say, you see, you will continue to move forward with ukrainian membership in the european union, we will cut off your gas, whatever you want, and this story was actually clear that a few years ago, when we said that there is no need to consider russia as a reliable supplier of gas, when there is a political need, putin will definitely use hydroelectric power as a weapon, as now he uses zno, well, that is, all this is an absolutely different value system in russia, it is for by definition, it is not european, it is also not asian , it is so byzantine in this value system and everything is cynical, people are absolutely worthless, and of course eurasianism is such a

medieval logic. they really fight in medieval wars with modern weapons. they think in zero-sum games, it's all in their heads, it's all not european thinking in european countries, and we have to be honest about it, sometimes they ask, but are you sure that all of ukraine absolutely tuned to european thinking. you are sure that all ukrainians are europeans. you are sure that all regions of ukraine are europeans. it sounds very cynical. agree , mr. serhiy. but nevertheless, they think about themselves. they think about how much unity and solidarity will be preserved within the european union when ukraine is there and we have to demonstrate to them that in reality, for us, this is a story about the whole of ukraine, that ukraine is changing in such a way that it is changing through the maidans and wars, that it is

very difficult to change, but nevertheless we understand the price to our values ​​and our freedom, it is also the steppes. everyone understands and is absolutely in agreement with volodymyr zelenskyi. this televised decision is a historic decision, just as the recommendation of the commission was significant, the decision on candidate status will be absolutely historic for ukraine, and i am absolutely sure that we will have a chance to see the ukrainian flag and near the european commission in brussels and near the nato headquarters, when yanukovych did not sign the association agreement with coins, i tried to comfort the germans and say, pavlo well, you are there i was the main negotiator for you. this is an emotional story. we understand. i told them then that the agreement would be signed very quickly. they didn't believe. well

, now they believed. they didn't believe that putin would attack ukraine now, and they believed. unfortunately, there are people who find it very difficult in the sense of their thinking to get out of the zone of such comfort but nevertheless, this comfort of europe left and europe understands that if europe denies ukraine the candidate status, it is about its political weight and about any geopolitical game. it can forget the saying that the european union can quietly decline like the roman empire and understand that it is a geopolitical game and actually the political will actually the human will on this egg, as we say, he is not capable. i think that this week the european union will demonstrate that it is capable, that it is ready to reboot into the european union of the 21st century with of the state where it is now. and this european union is actually the 20th century with the procedures of the 20th

century and the adoption of ukraine - this is a chance for them and a very big chance and profit and in the end a chance to become a geopolitical player. the future is the same, and as a chance for us to reboot into the future, one of the steps to this reboot happened or ukraine took the day when the european commission made a decision on the possible candidacy of ukraine in the union, this decision to introduce a visa regime with the russian federation at the same time as this arises completely a logical question, if we introduce visas for russians, why don't we introduce visas for belarusians, because ukraine actually understands that belarus is a base for russian saboteurs for the russian troops and for russians in general, why

don’t we see this whole picture and only make fragmentary decisions on visas for russians ? i don’t have an answer . said about this. perhaps you remember. i always advocated a biometric visa regime with russia so as not to put stamps in passports there, as this is complete manipulation and profanation, and then we began to collect biometric data at the border with the russians, but not they took the second step, they had the right to do it, of course. and now there is a visa regime. it should only be biometric, and there can be no other options, but i would, uh, well, now, listen. and why are we playing with the visa regime when the border it should be closed for russians, i would make an exception for

those who enter ukraine, you want to enter ukraine, there are no questions, sign a simple text condemning the aggression of the putin regime against against us against ukraine and then they get their biometric visa, that's how i really understand it and so should it work ukrainians treat belarusians the same, or almost the same. look at the survey, and putin and lukashenko. well, of course, there is a certain sympathy and this sympathy is historical in the countries towards belarusians, we have a language, you know, belarusian is the closest to ukrainian, there are many common mental, but many invental differences, we go to the end of the maidan, the belarusians stop there and start looking around. i don't want to offend anyone, well, absolutely, i was really worried

when they were on the streets of belarusian cities but nevertheless, to introduce a visa regime with belarus, well, it’s not just logical. it’s a quality, well , fair, moral, fair. if rockets fly from the territory of belarus, planes go there, russian military units go, then belarus is the same aggressor. well, in general, that’s why the concentration of military equipment in russian regions bordering with us from belarusians, there is a good chance that russia will again try to attack them there through belarus from the north, that is, in fact, putin is trying to bend lukashenka to various decisions there without uh, the visa-free regime with belarus is now for today, when lukashenko is in common with putin, but it absolutely looks so unclear, i think that this decision will be made in the future, most likely they

just decided to do it like this, uh, one by one, well , if so, thank god, you it was already mentioned that it was possible to ban russians from entering ukraine in general, or is this possible or does it comply with international norms if one state prohibits citizens of another state from entering their country up to 100%. we have a war. of course, russians who condemn putin's regime . well, there are some, it's true, we know, we know, if they want to come to ukraine for some purpose and help our struggle, we can do it, we can do it. well, then let them sign. take it easy that i condemn putin's aggression against independent middle ukraine, there are three sentences everything is just a cap. let them enter and get a visa. i would just in case anyway. i would track the

so-called stay of russian citizens in ukraine. i absolutely agree with the stage of the hostilities. well, in general, what is the large-scale visa regime? the border is closed by the russians . only those who condemn the aggression are allowed to use visas. well, it’s very simple. you already mentioned what you said earlier about the need to introduce a visa regime for russian citizens when entering ukraine and talked about this biometrics that should work, and what prevented the introduction of visas starting in 2014. i think that the first thing that prevented it was political will, that is, there was not enough of political will, why, because they did not want

to raise the rates as much as possible in the first place in relation to many of the ukrainian citizens who lived in russia, how did they travel there? of course, all these local checkpoints were banned, right at the beginning, aggression, but it was also necessary to introduce a visa regime, we offered, er, can you, we, this is the ministry of foreign affairs, to introduce a biometric visa regime. we even calculated how much we need and what equipment to issue biometric visas at our consular offices departments in russia, unfortunately, there was still no desire, and in this way, they began to collect biometric data at the border, the

next step should have been the introduction of the biometric visa regime, and the third step, as we proposed, should have there would be tracking of russian citizens on the territory of ukraine. i spoke about this at the nsdc, er, it is a necessity. we understand very well that this russia with putin, without putin, will remain hostile to ukraine, it will always try to destroy our statehood and ukrainianness as such, i.e. the ukrainian nation simply for its revanchist district, the fascist character of ihor ivashinskaya, the mentality uh-uh will forever remain like this until uh-uh this regime, and by regime i mean not putin’s, not only the russian elites, i mean this nationalist well it's not even nationalistic, it's imperial.

classic nationalists like girkin are kept there with half a hat, and the imperials rule the roost in today's russia, so i think it's good that now we've introduced a visa regime, but not in under today's conditions, i would simply close the borders. i would exclude only those russians who are important for our struggle, period, well, and even in conditions when hundreds of thousands of russian soldiers , without any cities at all, without any restrictions, are roaming around ukraine and killing ukrainian citizens this must be done, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our sites on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching live on facebook and youtube, please like this video for so that it is trending on facebook and

youtube, and also subscribe to our channels, mr. pavlo, you have already mentioned the st. petersburg economic forum, which was held by vladimir putin with the participation of taliban representatives of the so-called lpr and dpr, who thought a lot about geopolitics about the russian economy, but but the president of kazakhstan, kasym zhomar tokayev, whose name is constantly confused by vladimir putin, also spoke at this forum. this is repeated regularly, so let's listen to what kaif said about the pseudo-republics of the lpr and the dpr, and in general, well, it must be said that she refused to receive the russian order of alexander nevsky , which was also indicative. well, what did she say about the so-called

lpr and dpr? 193 states that now exist as part of the organization of the present nations on earth, there are no more than 500 states, of course, it will be chaos for this reason, and we do not recognize taiwan, kosovo , south ossetia, non-bakhazia, and apparently this the principle will be applied in relation to quasi- state territories, in our view, luhansk is a frank answer to your frank question, mr. pavlo, what is the connection between tokayev's boldness and the fact that the chinese side's position in kazakhstan is still quite strong , that is, did tokayev decide finally dismantle the odkb and did it publicly at the st. petersburg economic forum. it still exists. i wouldn't say that this is

an effective structure. but nevertheless, brento, the odkb exists. there is a second point. yes, china is key. history china will not allow russia to further destabilize china wow okay kazakhstan is inviting you and for do you remember the story at the beginning of this year when the russians wanted to stay in kazakhstan for a long time as part of the odkb and then the chinese said no no no no but let's get out quickly it's still the same without us, without our consent, it does not work with us, e.e. china is actually very consistently increasing its influence in the countries of central asia. kazakhstan perfectly understands that the sanctions imposed on russia are precedential support for the event

unprecedented for ukraine in the fight against russia and to bet on russia there will not be er china will maneuver at me will be smart such a smart person will gradually appear in kazakhstan a national and state-oriented elite er and soon enough there is with whom to actually talk and this will continue to be the case, that is why i would not talk now about the collapse of the odkb, but i would talk about the position of kazakhstan separately and independently, kazakhstan is strong enough to say it, and i am sure that this is the case, and i talked about this position later other key players, including the chinese, and will have the support of the chinese they have fundamental interests in kazakhstan