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i would have died even more if there were any remnants of it. similarly, there are any other political forces, and the right decisions are what these parties prohibit . that is, that is what any political force is built on, and the actual opposition platform of life - it is first of all people, by the way, another very important sign that is currently in the verkhovna rada regarding the removal from execution the duties of those deputies of local councils who were also related to pro-russian parties. that is , in principle, this was also what had to be adopted . the question is that for some reason these people in the verkhovna rada are now beneficial to someone. the question is that they see that some of them have reformatted into such groups, yes, two groups there, there is a new group for peace, there is a new group there for revival, there is another group there, and we can see these people, some
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of them vote perfectly, so it is important to talk about the fact that they should bear responsibility those people, those who did anti-ukrainian activities and as deputies of the verkhovna rada, moreover, enter the hall, press buttons, insert cards, they should not. thank you, mr. ihor, your word is of course on ivan klympush- tentsak , i invite you to change twitter. those who vote for this have become very convenient for the authorities, i beg you. yes, they say that on some issues they are more patriotic than those political forces that have always stood by ukraine and did it in order for our state to be independent, but you know, i don't even expect so much for a decision, let's say it to the ministry of justice and so on. finally, let them put a full stop here, and then i think it's necessary to move on. i absolutely agree with my colleague, including personal responsibility, yes, through here it must be done, but it must be done. one political lustration
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of the electoral illustration is not enough. a large part of these people must be held accountable according to the current legislation, and i hope that they will not turn a blind eye to this even after our victory. everyone will get what they deserved for the years they worked not for ukraine, just against our state . good morning from the people. good morning to you, and there are no mountains. in just a moment, we will start talking about the occupied territories, as well as information isolation , robbery, kidnapping, distribution of russian passports, the introduction of the ruble into circulation, such the realities of life in the occupied territories, how in such a situation to fight the influence of russian propaganda
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on people living under the russian occupation, the russian federation managed to seize part of the south of ukraine. this occupation is different from the way crimea, donetsk, and luhansk were occupied in 2014. the local population is now putting up much more resistance because have already seen the realities of the russian world, the occupiers did not even manage to create the appearance of russian troops. someone was waiting there, nevertheless, moscow is trying to put pressure on the ukrainian power and the west, in order to achieve the consolidation of southern ukraine with the russian federation, as a way to achieve this, they are promoting a repetition of the trick with the crimean referendum. look how it is happening. where does our army put this territory of the russian federation and there can be no referendums here, no, we say there will be referendums, by the way,
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about these all regions. in fact, the entire kherson region is actually under our control, and it is a fairly large territory - it is measurable from the vladimir region of the russian federation zaporozhye, almost 2/3 of it is under our control of the donetsk republic , but not all of it is liberated, but in the process of liberation - it is the huge territories of luhansk are almost 100% liberated, with the exception of a few settlements there, krym receives water, the drought in krym simply cannot be more, there is a land road to krym, and it is beautiful i don't think such results are bad, and in spite of this, we continue to tell them that let's try to reach an agreement, let's not bring peace to the third world war, there is a nuclear catastrophe . that's all to the end. it's clear. because
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at first it was said that he wouldn't be there. and all the local collaborators talked about it. in general, it must be said that the local collaborators were not hired right away, because at first it was said that they would just some military administration, well, the scheme is a little unclear, but then they decided that there would be no local collaborating administrations, and the latest news is that the referendums on the accession of kherson region to the russian federation seem to be planned to be held already in the fall, and this was said by the deputy head of the occupation administration of kherson oblast, next mousov eh, about this and in general about the bigger picture of what is happening with the occupied territories , how the population lives there, how it thinks, how not to lose it in general, we will talk about all this with sergey danilov, this is the deputy director of the center for kosher studies, and he
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should already be in touch with me sergiy hello, let's start with what are the russians going to do with the southern territories, because... it is still common to say that donetsk luhansk is just one thing, it is some kind of republic and they should retain their status, but with regard to kherson oblast, for example, a part of zaporizhzhia oblast, there is talk of including them directly in the russian federation tell me in more detail what you know about this story, well, it means that they have once again changed their plans, but now the main goal is declared and this deputy head of the administration of e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e have had
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their if i'm honest, i only remember the last name. and i'm talking about the deputy head of the administration of the president of russia, who i have been for many years now. kyrilenko, thank you, thank you. pankerienko clearly declared that they will be included in russia. you can present as success as something that can supplement and continue crimean history, but we are not expanding territorially, and they are now putting pressure on it and characterizing mr. kyriyenko as a political technologist . the planet has already changed three times, at least maybe five times since the first initial when they entered
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kherson region, when they were completely unprepared for the reception that kherson region showed them. sincerely, they did not understand. they said that we have already come to liberate you for these 100, somehow, as if they did not understand that it will be difficult to demonstrate the liberation, the brothers and moore must use mass repressions and , uh, with disbelief, but now they are mostly out of disbelief , and if in ukraine the slogan means uh, we believe in the armed forces, which is repeated by the people of kherson, then their slogan is don't believe in this village, don't believe in ukraine, everything has already happened, we are forever like these messages and nothing will change, and the ukrainian army is weak and it will come and will not
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release you, not lead you the matter is not at all like that i was in the 14th year regarding donetsk and luhansk, you are right there, now we are not talking about any republics, in principle, about the fact that there are some people there who rebelled against the ukrainian government . that it cannot even be imitated, what they say , they say that this is original russian land that must be returned, well, actually, this is the rhetoric that putin used to tell about peter the first, and they say, um, um , uh, kherson is a russian russian city, what kind of city is that? happened to be part of ukraine and all these are boats on potemkin suvorov and
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they don't care what kind of people really live there, who they consider themselves to be in these territories. and in general, if you say it so seriously, this rhetoric is dangerous for russia as well because kennisberg has never been a russian city and kant in general has no relation to the russians, just like all the former population of this city and, by the way, a large part of the population of northern russia, which was also never russian, and well, now the germans can take these territories from the swedes, or something like that, you know it's like a russian city, a return to the russian harbor , there's all this bullshit. how do they do they affect the residents at all? well, the people of the kherson oblast, what do they think about this? they think that these messengers are reaching them. yes, this is an interesting question. was the one who dragged this imperial heritage uh this is mine in the end of the 18th
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century about the foundation about uh pro- russianness about the russian land but now they him they are clearly promoting him through uh there visual propaganda billboards for example there are some leaflets in in in their campaigning and propaganda materials , they use it is this advice, it must be said that in fact, in the last three years, at least, and in general, for almost 8 years, there has been a discussion about the historical identity of the region . to show a different history of the city and the region and in order to pull out those layers of history that both the soviet government and before that the
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russian empire destroyed in every possible way or kept quiet and in the success of these efforts, they were and are, and the ideas about the region and the self-awareness of the people of kherson and the residents of the region, they were changing, and especially actively in recent years. i consider, according to my observations, the last 3-4 years to be subjective and will change quite significantly, how much does it actually affect now it is impossible to measure a-a from these contacts eh the word communication is still even for those who would be the target audience secondary issues comparing with the atmosphere in the city fear is constant yes with the need to solve m-m those issues that used to be solved very simply and
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automatically there are supermarkets, medicine, medicine, services, trips, er, and here are the issues of safety and daily survival, as well as the lack of income, they create an atmosphere in which they create a situation in which this er, ideologue gave birth to the russian land, he e-e falls on suitable soil among a very small segment of residents, these are people for whom the russian identity e-e is overwhelming and russian identity in the dimensions in which it is seen in moscow, for them it is e-e a balm on soul, but they are still, well, 10 per 15% of the population at most . and in fact, it is even less, and even for some of them.
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what would constitute such a basis of support for the occupying power, again, they are daily problems, they are just as present as before all the others, so i evaluate the effectiveness like the bottoms. and look at this distribution of passports, which is now taking place in these territories. that is, well, at first it was there in donetsk luhansk. by the way, in donetsk luhansk , some people are terribly outraged that the distribution of passports in kherson took place, but it started right away and there are no conditions. and we have waited so long. and we have to stand in lines, and here they give out directly to everyone who wants, no one checks anyone, and well, that is, here are the territories, especially these collaborators who became collaborators 8 years ago, for them it is so certain shock that it seems that now the south of ukraine wants to see the south of ukraine as part of ukraine more than these people from
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luhansk and donetsk, which seem to have risen up before and russia is trying in every way to show that there are queues for passports that many people are actively taking but what are the realities of this that on the one hand we we still know the history of crimea, where simply without a russian passport at some point it was impossible to live because well, it is simply impossible to live, it is impossible to solve even some of the simplest things and what is the current situation in this regard in the south of ukraine to what extent this post-posterization process is really going on. well, as you know, if you have 23 passports for a long time, they will give them to someone else. i am sure that there will be several thousand people who will take passports and stand in queues because well, i say there is a percentage, a certain percentage
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people for whom this is happiness, and there is a part of those who are going to take a passport and move to russia, imagining russia with the old english keys as a more developed country, because what about the karate fighter that they spread in the crimea, for example, what, in addition to 24 things, in particular the southern regions of the kherson region, that ukraine is weak and poor, russia is a strong institutional legal and rich state, this negativity had some effect on us, especially in the southern regions, which we have, where broadcasting was spread. of russian television, if there is digital or broadcast broadcasting, well, uh, well, some uh, he will take a percentage, but uh, in general, what did these uh, uh, we are simplifying the purchase of kherson oblast with them, what, in
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addition to that, they absolutely did not understand where are they going they came well, don't understand the second thing that they are institutionally weak because they didn't manage to uh-uh organize uh, this is what a tolerable life is, a normal life, yes, more or less, in my opinion, the argument well, he is responsible, among other things, he is responsible for ensuring that people do not starved to death of the occupied territory, yes, they are unable to do this. and accordingly, without these institutional frameworks, the absence of a russian passport does not give you any benefits, so if you are not. they are so zombified by their propaganda, if they keep it, it has become impossible to live without a passport, not to observe elementary services, eh, they there are 20,000 as far as i remember. as far as i remember, the quota for the residence of foreign citizens was trained. keeping in
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mind the citizens of ukraine, it is necessary to make an incredible effort in order to abandon the forced passportization, which was then taking place, and the second is to get into these 20,000 and get a residence permit as a citizen of ukraine in crimea. and then you would have some legal status, as well as medicine, school, social services, business, property ownership , e-e, in crimea, they then managed to do so that all these things became either inaccessible or very difficult for you without a russian passport, and people did not want me, they were forced to get it here, they are unable to create such an institutional framework , so only lovers of russian will go peace in the version in which their heads were put because many of these people were already disappointed after seeing uh
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this soldier after seeing the rape of the robbers seeing that he was just robbing them even where they are on the left bank hmm there in some well, for example, novotroitskogo is trying to behave more - less decent and they robbed everything and farmers just like that took away a car there, for example well, as they told me a wonderful case, their so-called military came to one entrepreneur and said now we will have you to protect, we ensure order, i say, oh, it was great, yours came. well, some military unit took my uh truck. oh, they say , well, we will return it to you. and what do you have here? oh, you are running away. give it here. give it here . everyone is faced with this situation. all rationally
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thinking people have no indisputability, no sentiments, and no understanding that they have been brought evil and trouble, at least if not thieves and suffering, but for many it is grief and suffering, and even for those passive who would they wanted to sit back and somehow they can't do it. well, just about the robbery, you know, it even amazes me because the russians want to add, like, these agricultural areas to their ability to export grain even they even calculate in their plans that due to these territories they will have more grain exports . at the same time, in the zaporizhzhia region, the russian occupation administration introduced such a system of robbing local farmers and truck drivers who export agricultural products to the russian federation, they are forced to obtain so-called yellow permits, and without them they are not allowed to work at all, in order to get a permit
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, the producer must give a third of the crop to the occupiers , even the collaborators were shocked by this kind of tyranny . of yellow tickets who wrote that this is a robbery of ukrainian farmers literally in these words, and another collaborator there, ihor dmytriv, a former deputy , also believes the same odesa city council, that is, it turns out that the russian federation is engaged in looting nationally in the occupied territories and is taking away everything that it can take out right now. and then excuse me for the long holding of these territories. maybe we are talking about it in general if you take it as they did in donbas, they took out factories because there is nothing there it was not possible and they just took it away and here and there they just take away this year's harvest and the next one and what to do well, in a year, well, the
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planner's horizon is not very big. this is the first thesis, the second is that those separate units that stand there are armies the russian guards or the fsb. they think here and now, what will happen there one day, they are not interested. some general has the opportunity to organize the export of grain, for example , or to lose a certain elevator . stories male , i have a picture that everything is more banal and simpler in the absence of a single plan, a single command, a single leadership that is present only in the most general features, each who can steal in his place or how he can, depending on the degrees, his audacity and the
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opportunities he has, here i am a commandant, an occupation commandant in some settlement in the kherson region, i have a friend who can start without an excise period i walk on to the shops, this is a case described to me by eyewitnesses, so i am sending soldiers . soldiers go to all the shops that are, as they say, to sell my vodka on tap from eight to the end of the morning until the end of your work, because i need to sell this batch and roughly earn from it that's all i have to give so many rounds, and i have no idea what my letters are. what is its honor, whose honor do we preserve? we represent the state. there are people who are engaged in business organization
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. about gas stations well, this is one of such vivid cases. they are looking for how to sell and face specific problems. they are not interested in the russians there, russia is interested in simple things to earn here and now, because you don't know what will happen tomorrow they don't plan for a long time, but this situation is actually the whole thing for me. well, in fact, there is somewhere such a repetition of what happened in the donetsk and luhansk regions in 14-15. there was also absolutely such a bandit history. well, it continues now it's the same with the abduction of people and their torture, all this was some kind of incomprehensible booths, all this existed, yes, that is, but in parallel with this, people fell into absolute information isolation, that is, as far as i understand . maybe i'm wrong, you're right, or
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explain more about this situation, what is going on, do people there have a problem with the internet? there are russian tv channels, it’s all about turning people on to this information, and it somehow, well, theoretically, can change the impression about life, that’s how far this process of one’s point of view goes. of mobile communication showed the failure of their plans to intercept the information agenda and impose their own, they realized that they are not competitive with any ukrainian product. for a long time , they could not understand how the information field in ukraine is organized in general and how the people of kherson get their
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e-e from they didn't imagine the spread of information on facebook, for example, how and how the sources of information and how such a social organizer, i would even say yes, because the first interrogations are some of the first long-term activists and non-activists, too, they will ask what facebook is, where there is a complete misunderstanding and they overestimated the meaning of television accordingly, and that is why they are busy with television in the first place by turning off and turning on their channels, they are also beautiful stories of our prisoners you can say that they were tortured by
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russian television and somehow forced to watch russian television all day long, thinking that it belonged to them, well, if only they could fix it. well, there were such cases too, and now they understand that it is necessary to break the information connection when they turned off the mobile connection. it was a powerful impetus to the departure of many activists, in general, many active people from the kherson region, those who were going to resist staying in place or simply those who live but information in extreme conditions turns into not just another product, it becomes a real essential item for us and it is life-necessary information, that is, with it for hunting and now it is an
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informational struggle, an informational competition moved mainly to telegram channels er and they try to use telegram channels er to fill in er these lacunae are true and quite funny throughout the entire south not only in the kherson region when they put er mobile transmissions broadcast television appeared on the streets only in this one in mariupol, yes. that is, it is like that. yes, not in kherson itself. the policemen in the soviet e-e conducting propaganda e-e
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as a propaganda contact and e-e sources of information delivery e one of them is the wall newspaper horse where they, for example, monitor telegram channels, so e-e messages are official and all kinds of such and think that people they will read them, they will launch the radio and the newspaper, it is still clear, it is clear, unfortunately, we are already well, we have time on the air, we have to finish thank you, serhiy danilov was the deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies. propaganda with boards of money, will the ukrainian army arrive sooner, and it will actually depend on how the residents of the occupied territories will feel, for today, see you soon, thank you
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