the 100 billion dollars that russia received for 100 days of a full-scale invasion were delayed a little bit, this is absolutely unacceptable, how much of this money will go to further armaments, so i hope that the group of seven will really talk about such harsh methods of struggle on the economic front on the front, how is the inclusion of russia in the black list a fall eh is the recognition of russia by the state as a sponsor of terrorism avandomrivtsi terrorist organizations ot and about putin, eh, actually eh he perfectly understands that, well, i don’t want even that to comment on the creation of the seven of russia's initiative and so on, let's give another short comment, we have it now. i am asking all the russians about the threats. the deputies of the state duma of russia began to threaten lithuania for, well, in fact, the trade

blockade that it introduced against sub-sanctioned russian goods and manufacturers. also under the sanctions of russian citizens and on russian television more and more often, we hear calls for the restoration of this suval corridor. citizens and goods could move freely with russia to lithuania, and there is no direct border there, we still need to cut down this corridor through latvia. what do you think about the prospect of such statements? do the russians really have some kind of military operation against latvia in mind, lithuania? well, actually considering to the fact that russia has not only defensive, but also offensive weapons, well, offensive weapons, which are located in kaliningrad, and those statements, although they may seem silly, but some kind of provocation from russia can be expected so

just as they always test in the baltic sea by sending submarines and they have all the possibilities for re-commissioning and that is why it is very important that sweden and finland are, i really hope, certain, as they say, the objections of the countries some members of nato, but they will become members of nato and the baltic region, the baltic sea will become completely nato and, as they say, of the european union, this is very important because the opportunities for creating threats, why did we block nord stream-2, because it is additional opportunities for russia to use the infrastructure of the northern stream-2 of military operations under the cover of e-e that we want to protect ourselves from possible sabotage attacks because a-a of the important ones ukraine will become a dependent 30 years

after the collapse of the soviet union, then one of whom russia could theoretically attack finland, sweden , that is, and even make provocations with a certain hybrid application there, as there were green men, that's why i, as they say, understanding putin's statements about peter the great and so on , nato countries should strengthen on the eastern flank and the most important thing is to help ukraine win this war. this is the only way to protect nato on the eastern flank only through the victory of ukraine. member of parliament of the current convocation and vice-president of the committee of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe on migration and refugees. why is

this position important? summer session with oleksii, we welcome you, i congratulate you . good day. please tell me what is happening there in the fields of strasbourg and when there will be a question of the war between russia and ukraine. i congratulate you once again. that is, this question is everywhere and this is the main topic that is already yesterday, accordingly, i spoke about this, i called on my colleagues help us free our heroes e azovstali a-a and this is an important topic today we have an important debate about the role of the council of europe in the security of the continent and again there i have the honor to speak first in this debate and i will definitely promote our topics are important for us, theses, namely support for ukraine as a candidate, members of the european union, here all the representatives of all the member states of the european union are working

, namely the deputies and those exactly those deputies who take care of international affairs will be here, this is exactly the platform where they all gathered, and that's why we need to come here again to emphasize the importance of this for us and for us to be supported in this. by the way, i want to raise the topic of moldova and georgia, who believe that we should support everyone as much as possible to work from the hands of this russian world, not because it is important for the safety of each of us and you, and then on thursday , on my initiative, our group of conservatives put forward a proposal to hold a special debate on the blockade of the black sea and its consequences, and my colleagues supported it, and this debate will take place on thursday no, i will present them, that is, start and speak. if you were the first and the general speech, and also definitely. this is a super important topic for us, and we have to deal with it, and you see that here, in principle, on wednesday, it is precisely the issue of ukrainian refugees, a huge report.

and um, i really, as the vice-president of the committee on refugees and migration, will definitely speak there, and let's not deal with it, as you see , in principle, the whole agenda of the pair. war and maybe then if it was everywhere this war wouldn't have happened well, but still, as it is, it is finally heard here and i can say that they really hear and treat the ukrainian people who are fighting with great respect. well, we must definitely use the maximum this a platform for promoting the interests of ukraine and we are doing this, i actually wanted to ask about this tool in general. the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe is only about bringing information to the world. are there any other mechanisms , tools of a more practical nature? well, the first

is after all, the political platform is the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe - it is a political platform on which a common political line is developed, depending on what this line is, this is how the entire continent moves, in principle, when the line was for russia's forgiveness then we know how it ended, that's why we can't underestimate him and don't need to. and we need to understand the importance of the work, that is, but there are legal instruments. the fact is that the couple's resolutions and they are the basis for issuing decisions of the european court of human rights, and this is already a very important institution. in which today the cases against russia regarding the crimea regarding the donbas are being considered and the cases related to this war are ahead. and this is a very important legal instrument because this court has well, it is probably the most authoritative such instance in the world simply in the world and therefore for us it is very important for oleksiy to work here on our internal issues today, such a major informational surprise from the head of the parliament

ruslan stefanchuk, he submitted to the council a candidacy for the position of the parliamentary commissioner for human rights and he became the majority deputy from volnovakha from donetsk region dmytro lubinets from the deputy group for the future he still heads the parliamentary committee on human rights, the occupation, and the reintegration of temporarily occupied territories. what do you think, is this a worthy candidate? can dmytro lubinets pass the burning vote in the parliament well, in general, who should today become an ombudsman or an ombudsman in the defense of human rights from the parliament in ukraine. please. on sunday, we formed a new bag in the verkhovna rada. with dmytro lubinets joined our association, that's why i think i know dmytro well, he is a patriotic person a-a hmm and i think it's a good candidacy and in any case i'm ready to

support this candidacy a-a hmm that's why sincerely i feel for him, i have known him for a long time, i hope that he will be able to be effective in this important position. well , this is what i can say from the fact that i know dmytro personally, and now he understands the problems like no one else. his district was actually simply destroyed, and volnovakha was erased from the face of the earth, how did it happen in mariupol and the tragedy of volnovakha? it's just that it's a smaller city, but it's actually terrible. i know that he's going through it all very hard there. and this one too i personally like the candidacy. of course, i also wanted you to comment on yesterday's decision in our parliament, the ratification of the istanbul convention, as far as we understand in the council of europe

, our decision is also welcomed, and it was a demand. how do you feel, because your faction is so content i voted ambiguously, nine votes seem to have been given in support of this combination. ugh, you know. i call on everyone. there are many discussions on this topic now. there is no point in throwing each other at each other because firstly it has been ratified, the decision has already been made and secondly it is definitely well received positively in europe and it gives us additional support in europe we have an extremely important decision ahead of us on thursday er friday regarding the application of ukraine to the eu, therefore, i call on everyone who is listening to us now, if possible, to spend less and break lists on facebook regarding various issues, and to all unite around this application, so let

's choose this, uh, in my hometown , as they say, they walk along deribasovskaya gradually let's first solve the main issue - save the country save the lives of people in our country get security in ukraine for this we will not do it without a free world and therefore the status of a candidate for us this is not just a political thing this is a weapon this is a weapon more powerful than gas - it is more powerful than the volley fire system, believe me, i understand what i'm talking about, so let's not give anyone a pass and get what we need. and after that we will discuss a lot more. this is about your question, oleksiy, to the military topic, it was you who reported on the missile attack of the ukrainian armed forces on the so-called boyka towers. in principle

, there is no official confirmation from the general staff, only confirmation from the leader of crimea, mr. aksyonov aksyonov or goblin, as he is more commonly known in criminal circles, er, confirmation from nass, and this morning, nass published satellite images showing that which you can see that these towers are burning, and uh, already tell the commissioner about it, he also confirmed it, uh, but oleksiy, my exclusive first information has been fully confirmed, but this information has also been heard, and in the state duma of russia there they are threatening to strike in response in the centers of decision-making, it is volnovasy that their hands are tied, so i simply call on our citizens not to behave with the only weapon of these scoundrels is fear, and they intimidated the free world to a certain extent in europe at some stage, and we have what they have it is not in any case not to be afraid, once they

burn like that, it means that the armed forces of ukraine made an absolutely right step, the military was also there, it was not only just towers, so we understand that they were used by the russians for military purposes , and that is why we should be in offensive position where we can as much as we can but in no case do not be afraid of any of their crazy people and their statements, they want to destroy ukraine, this is their goal , there are no compromises here, you know, we said goldemir between us, the land issue they see us in the ground, and we have them. well, that’s the end of it, and let your threats follow the russian warship and the russian military tower. therefore, it is very important that they make this resistance, it is important both in the military

sense and in the political sense, in the moral sense, if we hold on, victory will definitely be ours. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for your work and for your comments oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy ukraine is currently arriving in strasbourg, where the summer session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe has begun, well , it has been going on for several days and oleksiy honcharenko is there defending and articulating ukrainian interests. they talk about it a lot, but it is very, very important that the world council of churches has invited representatives of the orthodox church of ukraine. even greater for the orthodox church of ukraine, which is

gaining an international voice. and please tell me, can this organization in general, this institution, the world council of churches, somehow influence the processes and what will this pilgrimage to kyiv and moscow bring, you see, the churches are the so-called what a power, but churches can mobilize their faithful in a very special way, and we saw it during the pontificate of john paul ii, for example, we saw it when people united in an indescribable way for sociologists or political scientists around some values ​​around their religious leaders, and in this sense, of course, the world council of churches unites a large number of e-e churches with

a very different subsoil with a very different background and in an indirect way it can e-e influence the processes that take place in the world just as we talk a lot about the fact that the united nations has exhausted itself, the european council has exhausted itself, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe has exhausted itself, but we see how hard russia is fighting to restore its membership, for example parliamentary assemblies of the council of europe in order to be heard on such international platforms because of a certain irritation of ours and when, say, the bombs fall, it seems that somewhere they are not finishing it there, they are lazy there, they do not feel our pain, but it is all very important, the platforms

are very important platforms uh, and they influence , of course, their faithful, they influence public opinion, and that is why it is important, mr. viktor, let's say you mentioned the pope, what other questions were there, he mentioned ukraine again a week ago, they literally made public his communication with some mass media of such a religious nature that took place a month ago, that is, in may, and there were various quotes, that is , the communication actually took place for a month and a half . now we will discuss it, because the month was not known from the spot of these conversations, interviews and comments came out. well, in particular, the pope said several different things, some of which were contradictory and quite positive about ukraine. well, first of all, the pope criticized russia for its brutality in the war against ukraine, he said that we we see the cruelty and fury with which this war is waged by

the troops, as a rule, mercenaries, which is used by the russians, and mercenaries are used by the russians, and the russians themselves do not wage this war, in particular , together with this, the pope said about uh, that the russians faced brave people, people who are fighting for survival who have a history of struggle, this is about us , this is quite commendable, and at the same time, he said that during this discussion, he will meet with the head of the russian communist party, kirill gundyaev, somewhere in kazakhstan, it seems, in september, that he will go to ukraine until he arrives and he said that it is possible after all that russian aggression was provoked, well, in particular, in particular, this quote of his was er, that someone is barking at the gates of russia and will not allow any foreign power to approach russia, how do you evaluate the results of this great interview a lot of quotes, a lot

of different information, uh, the pope, whose side is he on, that is, does he look worthy now and looks like the head of the largest christian church community in the world when he does not want to come to his parishioners in ukraine, there are five million of them here, please, well, i literally had to write about this recently. i want to say that there are at least three problems here. the first problem is that we do not expect the church to have any geopolitical insights and we do not expect the center from the church to give an analysis of the security situation. what the church does, it deals with good and evil, it deals with life and death, it deals with distinguishing between good and evil and what the

pope refuses to distinguish between good and evil and to point out, he suffers with ukrainians who suffer from evil, but to recognize this evil, to point out this evil, he does not i dare say this is a very serious er very serious problem and er i always compare it with the situation that was er 40 years ago and here the second question is the question of how church diplomacy works yes church diplomacy it turns out to be effective then when she comes out of such backrooms, let 's say dusk, and goes out into the square and here is pope john paul ii, so he abandoned the so -called eastern policy, which assumed that his

uh goats were the secretary of affairs, let's say, the minister of foreign affairs of the vatican at that time, he he went to the cadre, he went to gerik. he even went to the soviet union and tried to get some kind of concessions from these totalitarian regimes . the pope condemned the communist regime at the time from the un podium, although he played a role. did brezhnev address the poles, hungarians, lithuanians, and ukrainians and heard him and uh, i think that what i understand about the tricksters of vatican politics, about their traditions, about many other things, but in this case, the evil is so

obvious, the evil is proud of the fact that it there is evil that the pope cannot but condemn him and not indicate where it comes from, but regarding the evil in the person of kirill e. why is europe delaying sanctions against him and can they be effective, let's say that so far ukraine has not imposed sanctions on him, the verkhovna rada voted uh, for this package to go to the national security and defense council, but uh, sanctions have not yet been imposed on kirill, you see, not all of uh, in europe, although a lot of people already understand what will be required - kirill is not a religious figure, patriarch kirill is a leader one let's say so with the minister is not from the most powerful, so he is part of

this military military of this soviet machine and all of his capital is all that he owns is what he is allowed by the kremlin, therefore sanctions must be imposed on him. -secondly , european leaders should understand that this is not about religious freedom, but about one of the departments of propaganda. and i want to say that the sanctions will be very painful for the patriarch because he is very afraid, first of all, for his active in europe and secondly, he is very afraid of being isolated in which he will soon find himself, the panel is the main asset of cyril in ukraine, the main asset of the uoc mp, in which state it is at all

now after the famous cathedral, it has been a month since he lost this asset yes, he is his er, it was really his main asset in ukraine in 2009, he told the then tandem of putin and medvedev that you do not know what to do with ukraine, and i am greeted there as a triumphant and i am not perhaps the first in this country, but and neither the second nor the third and i want to share with you all the positions of the authorities. that's why, of course, for him, the annexation of crimea and the large-scale war against ukraine were an undesirable scenario for him, but to raise a voice against this war, to muster the courage to speak this is the mission - it is he who has to do it, he

did not dare to do it and he absolutely followed the flow of the kremlin's propaganda and the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, formerly of the moscow patriarchate, is now in such a state that it is needed to be determined like this, will she be a difficult being or will she go to a dialogue with the orthodox church of ukraine, which means with all orthodoxy, because she is now cut off from orthodoxy, she is cut off from the first throne of orthodoxy , from the patriarchate of constantinople, she cut off from the alexandrian patriarchate and it is essentially dependent on the russian church because the russian church is the channel through which it must enter the fullness of orthodoxy and if

kirill wants to