ah, because of the fact that we are now all of us dostoevsky’s plant in russian cinema and we have a lot of soviet movies and this shit with a light steam and something else like that, well, anyway, it’s being stitched somewhere, you understand, it gives this nose, then for the enemy, because the first thing that our brains are getting dirty, yes, there are good russian ones, and still, i don’t know, somehow i don’t have a special lack of anything russian, and even starting from movies that are cool to watch in ukrainian translation or in the original, are there already all these platforms zori this now you won't be a driver 12 no, not a bank, and ending with literature and everything, although if you dig there, it is clear that there will be criticism and russian classics about how arab russia is, but how dirty and cool it is, well, that is, for foreigners to understand russia, let them read this about the farewell customs and russia and the uniforms, which are actually the equivalent of the current kgb, yes

, or the fsb, but damn, it’s so difficult for me to honestly get into their debris and reread something, i’d rather reread another world classic, thank god there er, there is a ukrainian translation, and thank god many of us read it in the original, er. it’s just one of the cultures that is more hyped than others, why they love it so much in the west because there is this myth that i probably don’t know there, it’s the same dostoevsky one or gumilyov hyped about this exotic longing of this type of russian soul na-na-na-na-na and they don't understand that this is an exotic bird there and zhurbinka this we have this zhurbinka like this and more more than necessary so this well for example i want to say possible well, the french don't know when the russian expeditionary corps shot in paris for alexander the first when they defeated napoleon and they ate there ate drank drank drank drank drank 3 million rubles and what is interesting is that when they left paris well, they should have

paid their debts now the russians in ukraine do not pay their debts they are stealing and then the russians were a little more aristocratic, so i said so, and then he paid off these debts, played in vorontsov, he then married a polish noblewoman, she gave him her staff, this money, in fact, and he became the governor of novorossiya, then he came there to see him in odessa and his wife, countess vorontsova, he wrote a poem, eh, keep me, my talisman, and here , to count vorontsova, who paid for all the russians in paris, he wrote about fools, strawberry, and so on . and pushkin loved her, such a complicated story, but i am ready that the russians were in paris a very long time ago. it was a long time ago when they were in berlin. the germans now have a certain , certain, certain, guilt, obviously hidden, maybe , or subconsciously before the russians that we should not to give weapons so actively we shouldn't help

so actively our tanks and howitzers shouldn't be so active in ukraine because it's as if we owe something to the russians for having them here with us in berlin and we once attacked them although, again, ukrainians suffered in the second world war, much more than the russians, but the parajana of the french, who well, this war with russia was older, at the beginning of the 19th century, do they have some kind of complex against russia that this complex does not exist, and if it does exist, why is it expressed? tell me , please please tell me about it there on the air, guys, if you read history, it was the soviet union and russia, which ukraine was a part of, and then i say how many millions of ukrainians died in the second world war, that is, what you call the general word русский , it refers to 15 republics, so which were at that time in the composition of the soviet union, this also needs to be reminded because, unfortunately, it must also be

mass culture, when on saturday they show this summer, a police car is driving, when they show a scoop and say that oh, this is all russian. we had our own stories, we were there for the first time at the end of the 19th century when, uh, hmm, once there, the russian tsar forbade the austrians to interfere in the war, and they lost the war, and people will remember something else , like, again, the russian tsars at the beginning 20th century, which was borrowed until the end of the money for bonds, some of them are beautiful and in many families these bonds are still lying around and you can hang them on the simka, but the russians did not pay them , that is, they simply lied, in short, and so-and-so is , that is, these things are necessary for example, to remind them they don't have guilt complexes, they have this fondness that she used to say russian ballet, the russian soul, russians, all that shit, netrebkoy, georgiev , and so on, everything is shorter here, saevsky,

they have it here, it’s like that. when it happens, russia continued for years, but more precisely, over the centuries, it invested in its cultural promotion . this dyagelev who took all these theaters and pellets there on tour and they got used to the fact that this is something very high spiritual and now they don't see, of course, what the abyss is behind all this , but why should they forbid it anyway tchaikovsky well, i say, you can not ban ukrainian roots in it at all, i will wedge a piece into your conversation and they now already distinguish between ukrainian and russian well, relatively speaking, it is possible that many people do not distinguish there, let's say i don't know, er, belgian, dutch there maybe someone doesn't distinguishes some other peoples in europe, but the french now understand what ukraine is and what russia is and what kind of border that passes between our peoples

, is it obvious to them or do they see it for themselves? i think that somewhere they still don't fully understand , the language sounds very similar to them, and i'm getting straight to the point. sometimes they look at me so hostilely and i say like that, where do they think i'm from, and they, well, the language sounds like russian. i say god god, i'm from ukraine i.e. i'm curious that people hear the universal language and such aha, for example, ukrainian, russian, there are similarities somewhere like french, italian, even less. by the way , they understand the context less, but still there are enough people who say, well, that's the west, the free one started in america, it provoked russia, er, very not everything is enough one of these kinds of events, hmm, explanatory , yes, i have this idea to make a podcast for the radio with an explanation about the french, about the ukrainian language, about culture, about history, about science, so that people

can somehow understand it a little better, but again, it is necessary to consolidate efforts because there when you do it one by one it's a little difficult, it's shorter anyway ukraine has not yet invested enough in cultural law in us, all these institutes are quite young, so it's already poroshenko they appeared, this and the ukrainian institute the ukrainian institute of books, that is they are good, they are active, but too little time has passed, so for such things, the war greatly stimulates interest, more has appeared, but sometimes they publish everything that comes across, some incomprehensible pamphlets from authors who quickly wrote local ones and who can be very usophilic, but they are there like once and something was rolled out and then you come with a normal book, we have already published 10 books about ukraine that are no longer profitable, yes, that is, everything is changing very quickly and i like to think that every not so historical catastrophe is also an opportunity and now ukraine is coming - this is really an opportunity to show ourselves from the

good side, and the media, for example, france, are helping us. they never show any dirt in ukraine, and there are some, well, there is enough of it. yes, you and i know that we show beautiful people , and they show beautiful people. architectural moments, that is, they emphasize the commonality, the fact that we have a european european legacy, so it's good because i think that in other countries it is not necessarily so, and in other media it may not necessarily be like that this soldier is american the cat under torture says, well, under the threat of torture, he says that oh ukraine is a terrible country, it is very corrupt , yes, this is actually an understandable move to not give us weapons, you and i know that we have quite a lot of corrupt people, yes, and to what i say, for example, my argument against corruption yes, we have a very sensitive civil society. you never dreamed that our people are very reactive. and when something does not suit us, we change the government. we change the president. we already have a lot of experience in

this sense. hmm c digital there or these things of the type of action well i.e. you always have to insist on innovations so first of all we are common and look at us there is kyiv- odesa right now by the way near the polisher royal near the minkut there is an exhibition where ukraine cultural heritage actually such architectural moments so we went to the minister of culture and made a nice agreement. that is, there are a lot of people of all kinds of insults, they can look at what odessa is like , for example. it should be somehow more massive, it would be better somehow than it is now. yes, i understand that everyone is simply overloaded, there are not so many specialists in each country who spoke this way in this language and raspberries, but this is now one of the necessities and that is the cultural front to show something is cool , that is, there are these actions. yes, but somehow it is necessary

to do it in a more systematic way. maybe create some kind of strategy. maybe it already exists. i just honestly did not follow it because i am so busy with two tv broadcasts per day of french ah-ah it's an hour to get there, 2 hours to sit an hour back, and here are two such broadcasts, you know what completely eats up the day, i still have to pass the book to the service, but i'm really now asking my colleagues to watch the video, so it means the russians are destroying ukrainian cities, um, they're taking people away in russia, people are being killed in mariupol. there are just mountains of corpses lying there. by the way, it will be interesting to ask you later how people in paris and in france in general understand the tragedy of mariupol and whether they understand how it is possible in the xxi century to simply dump people into such a community and just bodies lying on the street, it all stinks. well, that’s how life happens, and that means all the settlements where russian weapons have arrived. as they say, it means that

russian cultural figures are coming, bringing this turkic peace. there were a lot of them there, but we wrote them down, by the way, the textbooks, yes they immediately bring their culture here, they are trying - they will burn and destroy ukrainian textbooks of ukrainian literature, er, ukrainian names, ukrainian coats of arms , everything connected with ukraine and brought here means ah, russian textbooks are trying to reeducate people not realizing that these people have been trained in the ukrainian tradition for quite a long time. and besides, they bring there russian cultural figures who have sunk to the level of serving this satan putin and we will see now, it means that such a once good actor dmitry kharatyan has arrived who said that he played in the film midshipmen in the period and said that there would be honor there would be honor well, he did not have honor, so he has now come to ukraine, so to

speak, as a messenger of the russian peace . is it a relationship to fate and family, and because fate and family are united, as it is sung in the song from the movie bohdan, then for me there was no self in the fact that i have to be here by necessity to be here and so it turned out that it is precisely on the day of the medical worker that today is celebrated in all of russia, this holiday is here because you are, of course, these people, this is perhaps the most humane profession that, er , gives people life.

don't look down on others, god is here, we have enemies, there would be honor. there would be honor, well , they don't have honor. well, what do you think about modern russia in its cultural and political manifestations , this is the decline of an empire that existed for hundreds of hundreds of years and is this the last possible attempt of this empire to extort itself at the expense of taking over ukraine, and what are the signs for you that they will not succeed? well , first of all, what are they? eh hmm and the fact that they are grabbing for this one soviet rhetoric, tactics are rehabilitated there, stalin is denied, the holodomor is told by these great people. yes, it’s just like that, i don’t know, in the organization of the sovka troupe, they grasp at the fact that people still understand why this

is . to be slaves, because everything was decided for you, and it is already possible to powder everything beautifully with this, that is, a discussion about the family, yes, and that's all. well, when you look at all those kharifyans and kolenkomulenko, you want to quote a native meme, my god, what an end yes, because this is real about all of them now , these people are not stupid, they are profitable. it seems to me that well, it has always been like that and that it was mainly russia, which drowned in genius, this roadlessness . yes, there without electricity, it is the same as now. they come to our villages and they say, oh, you live here a lot. yes, you have asphalt there, in short, and electricity, and you, too, my grandmother liked it, she says. but because it has not been done like this, we have been doing it since childhood . they chose there and on who pray, they went and want to destroy what is nearby, you know. well, it’s like that. it’s like the goal of a beard , and when a woman is not available, you have to go and say

that she is a prostitute over there, yes, that’s about the same thing as the russians. they see it in our life, it is not available to them. so we are fascists, there are nazis, and there is something even shorter, and i really want the empire to disappear. i don’t know who will continue to lead it, because there is no good option for us, they are all over there. lovers and liberals in russian, if you want to ask him whose crimea and will you give it back he will start to scratch his turnip like that and think that now it is something else, he will say that he had more time, buter brod on television, i say that ukrainians there especially do not lick even the whole position, here we are. stop pushing us some airs with good russians. working off his money three times, she said the word navalny blinky , and you got up, well, in short, i don’t say the word zelenskyy that much, yes, although it is much more relevant there, i just measure the average temperature in the room and say that we ukrainians are far

in general, from raising someone to icons, and we have a strong civil society, and people who perform representative functions, they just now have to go to synchtia so and so in this war , we are fighting in this war, we all have a lot of questions that we will ask after the war there and the leadership, and in general, corruption and everything else. therefore, in short, he is doing his own thing to us. i don’t know if it will be like that with russia, but i don’t care what will happen with ukraine, and we all need a strong ukraine if it has to be due to the disappearance of russia from the face of the earth everything is fine in the telegram, you are fast now. you do not hold an official position there in the embassy in the staff of the ministry of foreign affairs, that is why i ask you. please tell me your assessment of the work of the ukrainian authorities. well, we are not saying anything bad about the president, even by the way , the espresso tv channel which is currently disconnected from the

t2 network, it is not known by what decisions, but we support the supreme commander, but for so if we talk about the council, about the government in general, and how do you evaluate its communication work, first of all, well, maybe on west, because i understand that here in ukraine we have our own communication with the government. maybe it is not relevant for you every day. yes, but the communication for the western audience is of adequate quality, and how would you assess, in principle, in this time of war, the work of the diplomatic authorities? i am very impressed with the communication of our ministry of foreign affairs. kuleb seems to be the right person to head the ministry. zelensky's speeches are also very simple and uncompromising. direct that's why he has very good speechwriters. yes , if they listen to us, i say hello to them, because it goes well. yes, maybe a little, well, at the

french, what makes them angry, that's a little too much. well, they are hostile, yes, but i think now after macron's visit, something must change, for sure, because they are hostile absolutely deserved, so to this problem, there is no need to humiliate russia about brotherly peoples about genocide, that is why i say again that look well, it is about a person there, for example, volodymyr zelenskyi, when he reacts sharply, it is about uh the leadership, so who is now in a very traumatized state , who is now very angry, because our children are raped, tortured, and so there are some such things, but i don't think it's good, the way they communicate, he hesitates, he's absolutely professional, and he dynamic , yes, that is, zelensky's speechwriters, a good zelensky actor. he plays so well on camera, i ca n't at the moment what comes out, it's good, well, they like them, they like our tacts, it's important, as for internal things, i'm

shocked, of course, by these news that come from soldiers who say that it is terrible, there is such bureaucracy at the level there, i do not know what kind of officials these are, this is the ministry of defense, when people have to run, well , that is, it is not the soldier who should run for weapons, but the weapons for the soldiers, for some pieces of paper, for food, that is, a lot of all kinds of things come, what what that a lot of things are missing, and at the same time i don't quite understand with all the donations that even the civil society makes there, they say whether to sell the official ones, it is lost yes. and here, too, i don’t know if there is a way to track it now, but when i see some people there in lviv who have been arrested for robbing a humanitarian worker, what is this, or is there, for example, tereotiroo somewhere in the lviv region, what kind of super weapons are there to the teeth. and in our trenches, people are free boss, what is this, people, come to your senses, yes, this is what i want to say, and somehow more adequately, let me say that what is being

done at the front is very scary. none of us who are sitting in the rear right now, are they volunteering somewhere, so we are not oriented, i am interested in the reaction of the french society of spectators to the horrors that are happening in ukraine well, let's say in mariupol it 's just an apocalypse but the same apocalypse just a little bit on a smaller scale i was in irpen , in buch, in gostomel, in moshyny, in bohdanivka, there in kharkiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, when they just killed people for nothing, you just ride a bicycle and you were taken and shot there with an armored personnel carrier or just like that you were standing, uh, your hands were tied behind you with something and they shot you in the back of the head, relatively speaking, that is, they just kill people for nothing the understanding in europe today, well, in france, in particular , that this is a war, and the scale of the destruction of people is half-sized or comparable to the second world war, and that this is now actually happening in the

center of europe, and what is the reaction of france to this, or is it possible that they do not want it in civilian life well, there you go. well, maybe it’s not true. maybe you made it up. and maybe it ’s some kind of special operation, and maybe you p- a little bit , so to speak, thickened the colors, well, that is, i don’t want to believe that it’s so scary, i understood, uh, well, nobody i don't want to believe that it's so scary, that's why the whole story should be extracted from the statistics like that. what i said when they say that 400 people were found in the eyes there, and the others and the mass grave should be taken and told the story of who this woman was. do you remember the hand with the manicure? by the way , ah the tv was just on mm at that moment and they contacted her daughter, who, no, not her daughter , but, it seems, a manicurist who recognized this woman by her manicure and identified her. they do it to be human they didn't think that it was somewhere and we are with them. this is what happens

. it caused a shock. it caused a lot of grief. all of them, at least among the people i saw, but it is clear that there are enough morons and marginals, for example, some valya. it is relevant that this is such an extreme right-wing newspaper that said what is it, that's all the staging, that's all this movement there, i kind of came up with something like this, i can't be like this, it can't be like that, but it happened too, but in most people, uh, they are liver, in most people, they collect help, in most people, uh, well, it seems to me, well, not in the majority but but there is i can’t understand. that is, they are very selfish and very individualistic for the french. they understand everything. and by the way, those who return from ukraine, sports will soon be there. i don’t know journalists, but they completely change their rhetoric . you and i are talking about the same understanding that appears in people. and even if you have been to ukraine once and have seen all this with your own eyes, who were in buchach or were in irpen, well, it is very

useful, in fact, to bring people and i am very glad that mahront vovi, in my opinion, he also changed a little bit after that, only 16:10 disappeared from me, yes, yes, this journalist, federik leclerik, imhof, he is a journalist of the french bfm-tv channel, i don’t know if you were there on the internet of this channel, maybe you were like that he died in luhansk oblast, well, it was an accident because a fragment pierced the armor of the national guardsman who was with him. there is a bulletproof vest all over his neck, and he is completely around his neck. he died. and here is this death. well, this. somehow influenced and again how much the french now they understand that the fact that people are dying in ukraine

means that they are not dying in france and germany, do they understand that putin is a monster who now has no boundaries and does not have any moral precautions for himself and if he is now in ukraine then it's only because he is being held back here, and he could already be somewhere, relatively speaking, on the border between germany and france. they think that putin will not push himself here. they think that he has no way, well, it depends. who do they understand, he could be here five experts on the site and all five experts they will talk about their own type, one will say and there, for example, this year of the masses, which is very cool, if someone reads in french, then fill it in on twitter of the masses. he said from the very beginning, we are already at war with the whole of europe, wars with the world, open your eyes, see what this is, help ukraine as soon as possible stop this war end win otherwise we will all be there yes and there are those who say well when

i say for example that we can't let them take our uh there is our east so for example because it will be because it will be only for them base they they will prepare and advance further and the expert says that this is not the way we are used to . there are others who say that you should underestimate the enemy, damn it, they have everything, look at them, i don’t know, china is there, is there someone else, someone, something, somewhere, whatever comes to mind in short, and there are many, many such thoughts, but returning to your question about frederik, yes who died. i was just on the same day when he died at bfm and i expressed my own gratitude to all these reporters who are not afraid and who do their work. yes, and who are they ? they can see that

we ukrainians do not abuse the colors so that they think that we do not, well, we do not say that, you know everything, when it is just official communication from the ukrainian side , for example, they do not even believe our numbers when we announce the number of dead russians in them but what was obvious from the case with this journalist was that russia doesn’t care if it’s homoconvoys or if it’s the press, they just take it and destroy it, that is, there are no decrees for them. that is, they are war criminals and this it was very often heard in connection with the death of frederik, yes, a journalist or a fm that russia is committing war crimes very easily, what should our rhetoric be, so let's not leave these crimes unpunished, or putin is under the illusion that the more he does what the more this monster does more new horrors, the more they fear him and the less he is punished, it shouldn't be like this, that's why our lawyers are super, they work with international groups, that

's how they document war crimes, send lawsuits, this is all very important, all this is a huge class of work in the legal field i say that to us ukrainians, it is important that everyone pays for what he did, that is, we are waiting where we are not stupid, we are not just overflowing with anger, although it is overflowing us, it is important that all these things are recognized so that they go through the justice system so that justice is established and russia must pay reparations and recognitions simply, well, in short, this is what it is. you and i all know it, there is no point in talking about it now. i would like to ask, you know, they say when the second world war ended , people then somehow fashion came to life comedy dances you know life is beautiful because people are tired of grayness dirt death fear and now too we live

in this stress in ukraine and i think that ukrainians outside the borders of ukraine are not anyone sympathizes they still live in all this khaka well, it seems that after the war, people will still want something beautiful, in which book we would write 30 seconds literally, but for you to write to people to restore them after the war oh, i think that i am sure i will be very big on all kinds of bright dresses and all kinds of bright things, and i think that i have already started writing a book about love during the war. but after the war, i will write something very stupid, for example. what do our exes think about it something absolutely entertaining that will go e after the book about marriage, just so that people can relax and read it, uh, and victory will come , for sure, because we have a lot of life forces of ukrainians, this is our bag, thank you very much for participating, thank you for this interview, iryna karpa , writer from paris, france was contact us,

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