here, probably, the necessary wine is here, the reaction of society is doing its job, they finished their investigation, they did not hand over this court and now the prosecutors of isa will, well, ask to put these judges on the counter in that these judges should have been there for a long time, there will be some remaining status of their trial so that they can be arrested as long as they are judges and it is impossible to dance, they are not touched, and nevertheless, this does not happen, and here, of course, there must be a reaction from society, only society. and the fact that we have kolomoisky, who can calmly burns money on gasoline, again, this should be the reaction of society, nothing prevents us, says that this is not okay, no, what does not prevent us from showing the authorities that we do not want the ukraine of the future. this was ukraine, which is kolomoisky, i sincerely do not believe that it is possible to defeat russia while preserving kolomoisky renata leonidovich and firtash no, it will not happen either we will defeat russia or these people will not defeat russia together with us well, that is clear and i

think that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky also understands this, and we have a fairly active civil society. yes, we, as a media , constantly talk about these processes and cover them. now the key question is whether there will still be political will for the sake of our european future to complete the process of appointing the head of the sap. what do you think? to be honest, i don't know about these until this moment, and the government did everything to sabotage this appointment, everything to prevent this from happening. let's talk frankly without western help , this war would have already been lost without western money , without western weapons, we would not be able to resist for a long time the huge armies of

the russians. help from the west is extremely important. this is what keeps us alive, and i believe him, so to speak. if we don't receive military and financial assistance from the west at the level that will allow us to win the war, don't do it, it's just suicide . corruption is literally killing ukrainians today. it's not a joke. it's true. people are dying because of corruption. the fact that we cannot buy a sufficient number of tanks, a sufficient number of bulletproof vests and helmets . well, we cannot afford to continue to live like this , and i think that this is the moment, at

least for this . i hope that the government will after all, five ah, it will appoint the head of sap to show europe that we are a reliable ally and to show that we really want to go to europe. it is possible to count on a real check, as far as , for example, mr. zelenskyi has. he really has no option, and he doesn’t have it just like that. it ’s better for him to disappear together with ukraine than to actually go to the anti-corruption campaign to clean up this country. thank you very much. mark savchuk got through to us. joined our broadcast, and my question is that there will be a lot of these, actually, instrumental steps. i can already see whether to slow down, uh, freedom of business, ease of doing business, well, we would not dare to talk , once you said important things and the most important thing is that you know, our viewers heard them that this fight against

corruption is declared and appears on the flags of ukrainian politicians from the very beginning and actually independence. yes, but will it be possible to prove our european aspirations - it is directly addressed now and we hope here for the wisdom of the ukrainian government of the president directly, especially since we see that this wisdom has recently been manifested in certain specific decisions, only a little more than a week ago, we discussed serhiy sidorenko's article on what is needed for ukraine to join the european union. well, there, in particular, the following steps were mentioned as a rectification of the istanbul convention, and now it has already been adopted. in fact, this is our new reality with tamara zlobina, a philosopher, cultural researcher , editor-in-chief of the online edition of gender in let's talk about it in detail, congratulations ms. tamaro, congratulations , let's start with the fact that on

june 20, the verkhovna rada supported the bill on the ratification of the istanbul convention 259 for and let's try to understand clearly that the istanbul convention is part of our obligations on the way to the eu and nevertheless, the ratification of this convention is important primarily for us, for ukraine, please, because we have to take care of the rights and safety of citizens by citizens of ukraine, and the istanbul convention itself is about safety for women, it really provides very good protection against domestic violence and encourages us to fight not with the consequences of the problem of domestic violence, which we are, for example, shelters for victims are a fight against the consequences, but to fight the cause of domestic violence itself, to eliminate it and thus reduce this problem. i didn't want to. well, after all, i

will definitely contact our arrest officer again, who is today. but it seems that at least this application of the public organization kyivpride appeared today, which was about evaluations. in fact, the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, oleksiy arrestov, uh, in general, uh, the provisions and the content of the istanbul convention are easy to find. yes, i had an open one. primarily to the lgbt community, he says that this is the human biology of gender, and people with deviations , and this is such an interesting thing, because deviation is, in principle, a medical term, and it means a deviation from the norm on the one hand, and on the other the other side

it means a certain pathology. as far as i understand , maybe i'm wrong, well, nine, at least in psychology, means exactly a deviation from the norm, that is, as a manifestation of some psychological problem, for example, of some kind. this is a very controversial statement . things by their names because we have the world health organization, which decides what is the norm, what is a deviation, what is a disease, and what is a variant of the norm, and the world health organization, which understands this topic with much more competence than arestovych. i live, i didn't think about it myself. the health care organization considers homosexuality to be a variant of the norm, it is not a deviation , it is the norm, it is found in a certain part of the human population, there are also certain species of animals in

which homosexual behavior is found, and if there is so much of something on our planet earth and we just observe it all the time, this is a variant of the norm, but what is not a variant of the norm is the ignorance of mr. you studied the question, there is a certain difference, you actually mentioned homosexual behavior among the animal world, it exists from insects to highly developed, well, for example, there are great apes, but this is exactly what is being said about homosexual behavior, because i remember reading a very interesting bbc investigation that will it was printed, it was printed that there are only two types of animals known in nature that have exactly homosexual orientation, this means that, under equal conditions, they will choose exactly homosexuals, and the first is people. this is obvious, and the second is how strange it is sheep eh sheep actually because of the fact that

selection with fertility genes is constantly taking place there it gives a certain percentage eh percentage percentage number of males who have a distinct homosexual orientation and this is a fermented orientation she has she is not even at the level of structure structures of the e-e brain but nevertheless, the polish convention did not want to point out about this and nevertheless and nevertheless it is interesting that the ratification of this convention was accompanied by rallies and demonstrations of opponents of its individual provisions in particular, those related to gender in different countries with traditional societies, so it was in georgia, so it was in moldova, however, after ratification, according to researchers, all these actions and rallies subsided, that is, in life, in practice, the convention does not prevent anyone,

does not encourage anyone to do anything, but gives a very practical tools in order to actually prevent domestic violence, in particular, let's figure out exactly how and why traditional societies are so afraid of it, ms. tamara, please explain this is an important point because all these fears that were spread in the ukrainian space in relation to istanbul commerce, they were simply heard out of hand, because there is a text of the convention, it is small, you can take it and read it, and there is absolutely no article in it that says that ukraine will be obliged it is necessary to change the constitution in terms of how the constitution defines marriage, there is absolutely no such thing in the istanbul convention, but they shouted about it very loudly that the istanbul convention will change the definition of marriage and will change how they will

to adopt children in ukraine and so on. and this is all completely fiction, and here we have to ask ourselves who these fictions benefit from and why these completely unrealistic things that do not exist in reality are not in the text of the document. tymoshenko's speech, whose speech is completely uh, a mixture of some unbelievable nonsense and fabrications, i mean her speech regarding the istanbul convention yesterday in the verkhovna rada, that is, people are inventing something something that does not exist in istanbul commerce itself, they they do not invent this on the basis that they are afraid of the very word gender and this very word getter they do not understand and here we will also make a dot here here i will simply make an insert and then we will continue specifically with gender, that is, let's first of all

state that in the ukrainian case we it was possible to follow the path of croatia in particular and to rectify the tambursa convention with specific clarifications that the constitution and the family code, i.e. national legislation, remain a priority for ukraine, the istanbul convention works if in within the framework of national legislation, i.e. the constitution, the family code does not change. they remain a priority, we rely on national legislation, and secondly, regarding the concept of gender, the council of churches and part of civil society in ukraine were concerned about the actual normalization of this concept in the life of society, which is introduced precisely through the rectification of the istanbul convention. let's let's try to explain exactly why, in addition to the definition of the article, we need gender and for some reason we should not be afraid of it, let's talk here right away

the truth and we will not follow the lies spread by conservative organizations because the word gender is not included in the ukrainian legislation of the istanbul convention. personally, i did not say this ms. tamara. oh yes . this gender exists in ukrainian musicians, but today nothing has happened, the traditional family has not disappeared anywhere, and this is logical because, again, everything that conservatives tell about some kind of demonic ideology of the genter - this is absolutely their fiction, which have nothing to do with reality or science, what is gender in general, gender is a social concept that means the sum of social ideas about how people should behave on the

basis of their gender, that is, in other words, it is the expectations that society has for people on the basis of its gender, these people are female and they are expected to look a certain way, they will behave in a certain way, and in the same way society has gender expectations of the male gender and that's all. and it's some kind of social a process that exists regardless of whether the word gender exists somewhere or whether it is studied or not studied, gender exists because society sees men and women in a certain way and has certain expectations about them. and these expectations in the modern world are what gives a person the right to choose or not so, that is, we are talking about the fact that we, well, if we were to move away from such a worldview, more typical of totalitarian

societies, when a person is some kind of, well, a cog in the uh. there are literally two numbers, if you allow the 16th year , 60% of ukrainians said that they were negative attitude towards the lgbt community is now only 38% - this is because it was more than half , a little more than a third had the same attitude and the number of people has increased more than four times from three to twelve, almost 13% of people who said that they have a positive attitude towards lgbt e community and also i don't even have a majority anymore, that is, the majority of ukrainians positively approve or are indifferent to the idea of ​​civil marriages without adoption rules for a gay couple. this is so interesting, interesting data and the convention provides them, in fact, it is not

er, if it does not encourage anything, but only says that er, there are simply more of these ways of self-determination of a person and of their identification, but still ms. tamara, what does the situation with family violence look like now, which fundamentally changes and how since the moment of ratification it looks like, well, let's say it looks like the expansion of the tools of influence on this in order to reduce the statistics, which, let's be honest, in our country grows every year, i still have to comment here, because we constantly drag the issue of lgbt discussion from the istanbul convention, but when we we talk about lithuanian women and gays, it's a question of sexuality. and when we talk about it, it's a question of social ideas, that is, boys can't cry, they don't run, too, a girl, a man has

to earn for the family, a grandfather, uh, a wife has to stay at home and look after children, that's gender and here responsibility, which is directly related to your question, why is the istanbul convention important and why does it actually talk about gender violence, because these gender ideas encourage men and women to conduct themselves in a certain way. for example, if a man has to earn for the family, and a woman has staying at home and for children means that a woman will end up in a situation of economic dependence on a man and women in economic dependence are more vulnerable to domestic violence, that is why the istanbul convention talks about this gender , it talks about gender stereotypes because certain gender structures lead to the fact that women become more vulnerable to domestic violence because, for example, they have less money and if their partner starts beating them, they have nowhere to go because the state does not take care of these problems and

accordingly, the istanbul convention, first of all, encourages the state to build shelters in our country, it encourages the state to monitor, e.e. cases of domestic violence, they are taken more seriously, it encourages to change the legislation, but not the family code, but the criminal code, because we now have a very negative thing in the ocean for domestic violence consists in the fact that if a person is attacked and breaks his rib on the street, it will be classified as hooliganism as a criminal offense. and if a person is attacked and broken at home, it will be it is qualified as administrative responsibility and for this the person will pay a fine or receive a warning there and without a symbol you will figure it all out yourself , you are the one we don't know anything about. well, he didn't kill you, but one day he will beat you. come, then we will be able

to apply criminal proceedings or when he so you will beat them that they almost walk like that then we will be able to open criminal proceedings and first of all it is not fair because there is no difference where a person's rib was broken and it is dangerous and actually that is, it will be changed as a result of the adoption of the istanbul convention, women and other people who suffer from domestic violence will be more protected. the istanbul convention provides for only criminal liability for domestic violence, and this is very important. well, there are only seven countries in europe that have not yet ratified this measure. which convention is the czech republic, bulgaria, slovakia, hungary, lithuania, latvia, great britain. so we have already overtaken them and we are more progressive than them. thank you very much . details with the istanbul convention, well at least at this stage we have figured it out let's go to the next

guest yevhen nyschuk ex-minister of culture theater and film actor fighter of the volunteer formation free ukraine of the armed forces of ukraine we are in touch with us congratulations mr. yevhen good health we are glad to see you and unusual to see you in such a proper format i know that you are in the mykolaiv region and let's uh, i want to ask you cultural questions and talk to you about culture but first we will talk about the war, which is operational the situation in mykolaiv oblast. please tell me how the preparations for the counteroffensive in the armed forces of ukraine are proceeding. yes, it is obvious that it is quite tense. in the morning, mykolaiv itself and the suburbs of mykolaiv oblast were shelled. the tense situation near the snow river is in the end not very desirable to name these or other places. hmm , in general, it is also restrained, but i would like to note

that this is a very, very good signal, er, in that our er, our brothers, our armed forces of ukraine are starting to move, we will not call it yet but they are starting to move closer to kherson, this is a powerful signal for the residents of the occupied territories, who realize that they have not been forgotten, that de-occupation will happen sooner or later, thank you very much to the partisan movement, which has strengthened precisely because of the success the actions of the armed forces of this style began to move and the partisans of rashevsky are very afraid of the occupiers and these explosions that are taking place and everything else. this is actually a very important, very important stage, but it is still about

culture, because i said honestly if we are not fighting for our culture is what we are fighting for. it seems to me that in ukraine this is the legacy of the soviet union. culture is greatly underestimated in our country. it is probably connected with this n-concept of a very primitive marx that the beatings isolate the culture of the consciousness of the economists of culture and so on. less with that. and now we see this kind of process was called defication. i think it was two years ago, we would have simply exposed a person who would seriously say this. let's be at the state level, we are conducting disinfection today. until now, one could only suspect excessive love for everything russian and russification in his position as a media manager for all his years of activity, but now, nevertheless, he is leading diversification and this process has really begun. how do you feel about this, how do you feel about that that i don't know, the kyiv conservatory is being renamed from tchaikovsky, i want to rename it about the fact that

russian literature is being taken away from our textbooks, er, the fact that russian authors are being taken away from us, how much is it necessary, thank you very much for the question, everything is on time and i would like to note that at the time when i was a minister, we actually started this moment and very powerfully, you know, and the law on decommunization, in the end, in the end, the law on the ukrainian language, new institutions were created, the revival of ukrainian cinema and so on. this is all actually derezification . to a big, broad discussion. how is this? it always happens in us, but now when thousands of our citizens are being killed, hmm, when they are mocking us like this, when ukrainian cities and villages are being destroyed. i think that we should not introduce any at all. a moratorium on the so-called discussions, double standards

, and these loopholes, which make it possible to slowly interpret this or that situation in different ways . heroes, when our women are raped, we need to get rid of these russian narratives, these double standards, these unnecessary discussions, there is a war now, and right now is the time to get rid of these russian toponyms, you know that in kyiv, in particular, there was a vote of about 300 in the streets and when look, there were still such wild names there of zhovtnev re functions, some uh, usuriy, some there, well, there are a lot of russian names that still couldn’t get rid of them in any way. this is simply unacceptable, and so

throughout ukraine, we need to get rid of it. there is no discussion, there is no need to give free rein to this discussion. because they lead to war. and what do you think of the argument of those who say that, on the contrary , all the processes of decommunization led to war, the law on language, that it is as if it pushed putin and the kremlin elites to the point that if ukraine does not try now to hold it will be lost forever, they have been preparing for war for the last 300 years, they will do anything to stop them. believe me, on the contrary, the firm and clear position of ukraine from the very beginning would give an understanding that there is no need to dig here, forgive the slang. therefore, we must raise at least one generation without enough of these double standards with the russian world with the russian narrative, we have wonderful, talented

, genius artists in the genre of music, in the genre of poetry, in the genre, well, in any genre of modern art and so on, that's enough myroslav skoryk well, i can name many that are worthy of the fact that we should not discuss it now eh eh hmm it is ours or it is not ours we give it we do not we do not give it we he created in other areas he created the so-called russian narrative and their greatness pushkin that is -e mm manic idea of ​​the great russian greatness their russian greatness caricatures now when they pull their military equipment and equipment with tractors when they look threadbare in their old clothes and with those dry rations that look like they are from the last century very often say their

velichka was said to be tolstoy, look, they say that leo tolstoy was fat, he was a pacifist and didn't like imperialism, so let's leave him, or dostoevsky. he was against totalitarianism, i don't know. i don't know. i wanted to see it. so be it. please, now i try to urge you to get rid of the eyes of some kind of inferiority and to turn on your beautiful good heart again, which is open to all to all forgiveness , there is no forgiveness now and there is no now uh, no, you don’t need to give this leeway to this uh, big one again discussion, because this discussion is used by the sixth column of the agency that i was there today. i heard that artists are fighting today and shedding blood. the young actor, pashaly,

died in irpen. a talented screenwriter and musician, and ilya chernilevsky, who went as a volunteer at the front, what do you think ? transformed national art after the war, how will it reflect the events of this already fresh history of ours, this pain and ancient from khmelnytskyi and mazepa and to the zaluzhny, you just aptly said the culture itself as how how the litmus test for everything for the tragedy for the heroism for the heroism is to emphasize this is what we are going through with you now we have to make films about the ghost of kyiv about the patron's dog a fairy tale and a cartoon so we have to make our hero on real events this is new myth-making based on real events and on real heroes, not invented, this is not

some invented gastello, this is a real hero who shot down about 30 european and russian fighter jets, and this is how we can talk about every situation. we create truly without pathos, we create a majestic sacrifice a heroic country that now no one connects with anyone, that everyone knows now look how the red viburnum er-e song of the sich riflemen sounded in the new in the new version with the echo of the er-e empty sofiyivska square on which there are no people but this echo of the ages is our history this is our heritage , we have it, we know now what we are fighting for, for whom we are fighting, it is very important, and this is exactly what culture in all its genres under species should emphasize. free ukraine of the armed forces of ukraine, who is currently at the front , was our guest. maria gurska andriychuk

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