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it's a shame and we want to convey hello to the boys of the cattle , the ninth section of the battalion, guys, hold on, i'm getting treatment and it's very nice to meet our boys here, everything will be fine. glory to ukraine heroes glory to ukraine and ahead are two more countries - these are spain and portugal and now i'll show you my the operator helps me turn on yuriy tkach, a participant in studio kvartal 95 and everything will be ukraine hello everyone, he is watching us now and we are currently studying from florence, this is already the eighth concert, two more left and we are returning home because they have already collected a lot of money, they reminded europe that there is a war in ukraine and together we are asking to unite ukrainians from europe and we
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offer to watch we offer to watch the plot plot from berlin berlin who doesn't fit in the bus sit down shout good tour berlin continues in europe, and they left before flying to germany . evgeny koshovo was surprised by his daughter, who came to the airport to see her father. the head of studio kvartal 95 says that these concerts are their first departure from ukraine since the beginning of the full-scale during the war, we were in kyiv, when the people saw us, they said that we didn’t go anywhere, i said, where should i go? here, my house has been working for nothing for 20 years, they came to me, they want to take everything away from me, why will i
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do this, well, where will i run, and then how you come back to the fact that they are gathering on the square for a concert in support of ukraine, we notice iryna, she admits that she is from russia, but she has been living in germany for 30 years, say that ukraine is europe, and i have been wearing only yellow and blue for three months and in solidarity due to the fact that we were unable to have you save and this is a couple of a ukrainian woman and a german woman says that he bought his embroidered shirt himself and criticizes the government if something is done wrong of course he believes that ukraine should have been in the eu for a long time not just a candidate and she should have been in the eu for a long time this is a signal for of german society that they saw that ukrainian culture continues to fight and we believe that this concert will be a good sign for the decision that we all expect in brussels at the end of the week from the stage in berlin monatik sings
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songs about the war the war stole our lives she she stole our dreams. she stole our plans. dmytro , today in poland, five- and six-year-old boys miss the kindergarten in kyiv. they don't understand that the war is going on. they understand that the criminal russian troops have attacked, that they want to take our land. what is dangerous for them now? go home no one knows what will happen tomorrow here, but anyway well, nadiya and i somehow tell them all this so that well, but it is, well, it’s difficult . kaprosyat to record happy birthday for
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a military man to bring ukraine to mr. dmytro we join all quarters victory in everything be dear live healthy we are going to ukraine again soon and we hug you valery kovalinska denys savchenko from berlin tsn marathon single news 1+1 well, on this is the end of the issue of tsn. i wish us all a peaceful night, then the joint marathon, the only news, will continue. to ukraine, we are stepping into europe with a stronger connection with the eu. unconquered cities of ukraine. dnipro, the space capital of ukraine with the longest embankment in europe and the shortest subway, was born on the site of cossack
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substitutes for liberties and freedoms. remained under the attack of enemy aircraft, but did not stop working for victory, as he does not stop, and now he is the first to meet those who are fleeing from the war and, despite everything, reliably holds the rear of the dnipro people, it is just space, and dnipro - undefeated, we are now going straight to the front the position where you want to fight will be the most dangerous trip during this time, with god they became the heroes of many films, the project i am doing a little differently
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now i hold the information front and prepare the defense, we help them in the kitchen, we feed them, you clean up the borscht assemblies, but they are good. each of them is a hero of the history of his country, he definitely committed help one place right there, wearing such money you have on the map to support our main task - survive at any cost win now the whole world has seen what ukraine is! ukrainian soldiers are defending the country, now your investigators are side by side
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the dbr documents the crimes of the occupiers. the guilty will be punished. operatives are looking for saboteurs. they identify collaborators. these crimes have a statute of limitations on collaborators and war criminals . call 044 327-07 . we will win that you are not news, together we are strong on the ukrainian earth, we
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are fighting for the hells of the gods defenders are boldly speaking out against the occupiers - these are relatives, loved ones for their people, by-laws that you are everything that was for us we do not give roads to one another, the ukrainians have already shown the enemy and the whole world that they know how to fight and win. and we are becoming stronger every day, the ukrainians will win the first 46 days i lived here, we differed in those children whom we managed to save , you and i unconquered, invincible, free ukraine
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who were able to give the stronger fought all 14 columns, not a single casualty. i didn't have to sacrifice everything. mom, tell the truth and take the robes with me. i kissed what i was told. i don't correspond with you. on fridays at 21:15 in marathon the only news we are ukrainians, the people know how to get up time and time again and go on about the fact that our nation cannot be destroyed through the darkness to see the light some of my house i will stay here live through tears laugh cheers know what will happen dawn maybe we are baking some kind of pancake in a pan or something, have hope in our hearts, we will do everything and rebuild and it will be even better than loving life,
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the first wedding dance, your applause, it is you who makes us what no one takes from us, glory to ukraine who said that war is a man's it's me to victory meet paramedic mila makarova . she studied at the american course of combat medics since the 14th year. she raises the standards of combat medicine to the world level with such angels on the battlefield. i will lose, we will win, whatever
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you do, news together, we are strong, congratulations friends on the air 1+1 about the ethnic guard, where we, in the circle of journalists and experts, are looking for simple answers to complex questions that concern every ukrainian in the studio for natalia ostrovska, yevgeny kuksin, stas yasynskyi, and i, yevgeny plinskyi, are working for you. let's start with the story of our colleague andriy orlyak. the kremlin is probing the soil. for years, the kremlin has been throwing narratives into ukraine, only the nazis say corruption and disorder, why should western countries support such a country? the west ignored the narratives. the russian information forces were defeated. therefore, already now, propaganda mashinobutina is on the new rail because the previous ones were boxed back in 2014. at first, he was not in donbas. already then, it became obvious that informational
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manipulations and outright lies about ukrainian punishers are ineffective even for that part of russians and the pro-russian audience in ukraine who did not particularly question any which the kremlin, but stories fantasized by propaganda, such as the one about the crucified boy, became memes even in russia and rather discredited putin's information forces than had any real influence to justify moscow's military aggression, the main methods of propaganda, while radical nationalists staged a coup d'état in ukraine, the junta seized power, what followed only kyiv, the oppression of the entire russian-speaking population of ukraine, in fact, it was precisely under the propaganda guise to protect russian-speakers that the kremlin tried to legalize separatism in the east of ukraine, which was already rusty, by military means the propaganda machine tried to get into people's minds with the beginning of the full-scale invasion of ukraine, but almost immediately finally derailed, for example, in the destruction of mariupol and the genocides of ukrainians. moscow
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began to blame kyiv with the tried-and-true tricks of 2014, but the kremlin's local dungeons stopped working finally in 2022. the kremlin needs to justify the war in some way. at least in front of the russians , fakes about one crucified boy are not enough and ineffective to blind their eyes, why kyiv was not taken three days ago, the old russian propaganda was started repositioning on new informational tracks just on the move kremlin does not give up on the dark men about the protection of the russian-speaking population, but this recedes into the background new main objections - it is not even about justifying the start of the war, but about how to end it with the benefit of russia, for example, a fresh informational summons from putin that the planet is threatened with famine due to ukraine's apparent reluctance to export grain from its own ports that are blocked by the russian fleet or that moscow is not against renewing negotiations on the cessation of hostilities, but for some reason
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about such a kyiv, while it will continue to be bombed with missiles, well , or there is still no need to supply western weapons to ukraine, because it sells them. it is these and similar messages that are now actively fueling the russian state collapse . knows more than anyone about the propaganda and disinformation of the kremlin, how it works, this person. today we have in the studio andriy shapovalov , the head of the center for countering disinformation at the defense security council of ukraine, and i think that today we will definitely find comprehensive answers to our questions and about that, well, we will find out about what is really happening with propaganda, how do we fight how they do. greetings , good evening. and american weapons, they refer to cnn, where according to a journalist, our military says that it is more convenient for them to use commercial drones with explosives
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than american switchblades, why the russians they are dispersing such a fake, can you explain? well, it seems to me that the answer is on the surface, well, that is, in order to cause, first of all, in the audience of the west in the audience of cnn, and the desire is not the desire to supply weapons further, but further to motivate their own e-e fighters, their own army and their own russian audience before that look, the world will now turn its back on ukraine. well, their whole story about disinformation, manipulation, er, it consists precisely in the distortion of reality, that is, to tear something out of the content, to make er, a lot of pseudo comments experts and everything worked and to put some meaning behind it, well, they have only one meaning, they are now fighting
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with the whole civilized world, they are for the truth. they are a big state, they all want to offend them, and that's why they resist, well, for this it is very almost the same as for internal that for the external consumer, the only thing is that it is a bit diffuse, it is deformed in one direction or another. but all the narratives are aimed at this and more than that. believe in what is happening this narrative can be disrupted by the supply of weapons, to say that ukrainians do not know how to use european american weapons, why do they need them? to direct it against the
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european union, and this should be in the mind of the europeans, to form a thesis in the americans that, well, listen, maybe they really don't need to supply it, because they sell it, they don't want it at all, we do, well everyone is straining to supply them, and you can see it in the media, cnn writes that it is not necessary . i am worried about this narrative, this proftomo from the war. it seems to me that it is much more dangerous, there is a danger, ah, and this is a narrative. what ah, well, unfortunately, it is very strong on their part, as far as the sale of weapons is concerned, i turned back a little, well , they spread information about what in darknets appear in advertisements that they themselves place and link to, that is, they resort to absolutely such primitive but
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effective means of combating propaganda and disinformation, that is, the forgery of documents that appeared a few days ago about the fact that someone is being evicted to all men, uh, all men have to leave poland in 10 days, well, it's completely fake, well, a document about and uh, then information about an announcement from dartnet about the sale of weapons, javelins are sold there, i'm in uh, everything that's possible for such a person sell it there, but none of those phones work, well, everything is absolutely a lie and a delusion, but the russians, just like at the front, they work in bulk , that is, to fill it with bodies, to fill it with a huge amount of some kind of absolute stupidity and hoping that somewhere it will run, well, it will break through it penetrates because there are many of them, and thousands of such fakes are generated there every day, but because of their stupidity, well, almost
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all of them die today. and the objective basis is so well, it's tired definitely at the corner and well, everyone wished for a quick victory to cite an interview of dmytro kuleba yesterday in fury magazine on facebook, which in fact confirms the theme that the world is trying well, what in the world are putin's propagandists trying to somehow spread out and play out this i want to read a fragment of this thesis about in that volume. koliba says that it is impossible to assume that ukraine will sacrifice territory and sovereignty to its people in exchange for a nominal world, and these recent calls for compromise are simply a byproduct of the growing fatigue i spoke to a number of decision makers in african arab and asian
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countries some of them started our conversation with statements of support for our cause before making a sharp turn politely suggesting that we simply stop resisting this is not a proposal but their argument is simple they want the grain to get to our ports due to the naval blockade of russia , they are ready to sacrifice ukrainian independence and to get it, a big quote, but they should have read it, yes, you know in fakes about the same ones there are no crucified guys or ukrainian fascists in russia . yes, there is no basis on which they could base their disinformation. but in the matter of that, he is in the matter of grain and in the matter of well, let's unravel the complex algorithm of supplying weapons to ukraine. yes, it is not easy, they do they have some
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foundation on which they plant their eyes? informational and psychological special operation did it achieve its goal, that is, in such operations, a measurement is made at the beginning, then certain actions are taken, bursts, and then a measurement is made after this has happened . the voters of these countries in these countries, and not the social networks of some freaks who disperse treason and er or that bots and views through pornhub are made as it was in simonian yes in the debunked rt which was allegedly watched by billions there millions and it turned out that occupied traffic from porn sites and in fact, well , no one here is fooling around when she did not see hmm that is why the
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issue of fatigue from the grain war and it lies in the plane of the reactions of the countries, the reactions of the embassies, the representatives of the official sources in these countries , today we are confidently winning 100% of eastern europe are our partners, on whom we can count, who clearly understand and who, like us, have already developed immunity to the russian propaganda machine, we, in principle, occupy very strong positions, much stronger than russians in western europe, in america, and the story is more complicated in the countries of asia and africa, but even there we are today. well, most likely, we will outplay russia, because
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the methods they used led to this absolutely brutal act, what is happening in ukraine is not a war, it is this is an atrocity, i do n't even know the term well, how to call it in the 21st century and the story is exciting with mariupol, it revealed the beastly face of putin and the number of russians who support him, and nowadays it's so easy to lie, absolutely stupid how do you do on the 17th yes, we saw it, then it flew, then it didn't fly, then the pilot was shot down, then we heard something, then the dispatcher appeared. yes, we did, thanks to that, including this story, we acquired resistance to all this. by the way , they tried to turn the story out of anything 17 yes, they also tried to open themselves up. they know that he was in the woods for all countries. he said that and even quoted medusa. he said that the russian military gave
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dry rations to the ukrainians in the basements, but he didn’t finish the sentence until the end. then they threw a grenade in this basement. well, i to the whole world, he tried to say well, today, well, i am convinced that what ukrainians have done in the information space will be written in books and this is not a center for countering disinformation, it is about each of the ukrainians who documented all this, filmed it, who were actively involved in vi, and definitely on the information front, we we have already won the war against the russians for today, but we must understand that the process of victory requires fixation, it is like a weightlifter . well, it is not just necessary to lift this and this barbell, but it is necessary to fix it and hold it only after that the world recognizes your record, that's why your opinion, in particular , it's certainly obvious and it doesn't need any
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more confirmations or arguments, so conditionally, if a lady like skabeeva is there, kiselov, the rest even elementary opens her mouth, yes, well, there is an understanding that this person simply opens her mouth listen to it, we don't necessarily miss this moment, so if we talk specifically about the propaganda that is broadcast to the west. so, you know, it would seem that russia has, well, a very good such information trump, as they think. so this is putin's nuclear button and you know, conditionally, well, residents of the western world, well, imagine in less than six months, you know, let's put ourselves in the place of people like that who live in countries far from ukraine, and it's a pain for us. the picture on the tv and they survived the coronavirus almost started to leave so here they are shocked by footage of the war and here, you know , conditional non-scabies appear, just like this, they
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open their mouths and shout that there will be a couple of minutes there and a rocket will be added there conditionally to germany yes conditionally, in the same germany there is a well- respected one, well, it doesn’t matter what he calls himself an institute, but in germany, well, i’m sorry , a person from the street will definitely not open an institute, but in that institute there is a woman who calls herself an analyst. so she starts not to threaten the germans and think about what friends i'm here with er, well, i laid out the options and if we can't come to an agreement with putin, then he will have to direct our country's nuclear weapons to our country, but listen to how it is he calmly explains that if there is no agreement with putin , germany will be destroyed, let's see it, oh nucleo version, nuclear weapons depots in europe will become targets, they will be reached in a few minutes , germany will no longer exist and you know the same figures
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. everyone can call themselves an expert. yes, but if, for example, a conditional former us senator comes out, and i apologize for that, you know , we can talk about one thing in ukraine. so, anyone can become a deputy. yes, but still even we understand that in the usa a senator, well, i apologize, a man from the street will definitely not become like that and he starts to think. i even apologize not to think, but to justify putin's aggression. listen to one fragment of what he says . crimea was part of russia, only a historical anomaly , they placed it inside the borders of ukraine, what in in the 14th year, a junta came to power in kyiv. i apologize for this quote. what to do with such characters? you are correct in saying that europeans and
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americans when these messages are implemented are not the russian speakers, and the american speakers, the british one, a respectable person is sitting on the background of the american flag, a senator in the past, yes, trust in these theses , she is, well, she is a difficult question, uh, first of all, it is a very big question, you can’t answer it. and i will tell you, come on i see that we are dealing with this. yes, it is. and if, without joking, look at this question, uh, it must be broken down again first. uh , what audience is it intended for? are interested in foreign policy, so we are understand that it is about 10%. these are people who are educated, which is not, well, it is very important, and these are people who, in principle, are in the material. and when they hear such and such a
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fool, well, they try to check, most likely, she does not get to where the russians would like , but not to see it today, too. it's dangerous if you don't see the crucified boys in the 14th year, that is, when we were laughing well, well , absolutely, and idiocy, someone invented it, but it appeared here, it's not all that clear, i'm a mother from the crimea, yes, my name is dmitriy, it's not all that clear today, we have to understand that the world has changed a lot over the last 15 or 20 years. we live in a completely different era. this is the digital era . new terms are emerging. a new reality is emerging, but unfortunately, legislation and legal norms are emerging. they don't always keep up with everything that is being done . because today, well, there is a big question even to
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qualify these crimes today. behavior, this is already a simple definition of a bot farm, it does not exist yet, but today we are starting a discussion in the countries of eastern europe in the countries of europe so that we have a common field and the same legislative approaches to all that, so this is a complex name for a simple thing that we say because this is the first, friends, an interesting, important topic. we will continue in a few minutes. now we will have a short break for three minutes and we will return to the conversation .

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