given. therefore, we must be as attentive and vigilant as possible. as for him, the same applies to transnistria, but still, the probability of some kind of attack from there is a direct attack, and not just a provocation . well, to work with belarus with belarusians, er, i am doing it informationally now, but in the belarusian version itself, everything has already reached the exact date there, because er, well, there is no possibility at all there, everything that is possible is blocked and so on, that's why there already arrived the matter is the date itself. well, there they are publishing articles about ukraine, including mine and so on. therefore, we need to convey the information to the belarusians as much as possible that if there is such an attempt, the belarusian military will be much less hidden and you are not in ukraine and to go to minsk and throw off the grass, because going to ukraine is probably

death. well, actually, since the parliamentary assembly is, first of all, a body of cooperation of parliamentarians, i would like to ask oleksiy a question. at the beginning of the war, in fact, journalists do not work in the verkhovna rada, it was prohibited due to security considerations, however, from by the verkhovna rada, not by the parliament. as far as i understand , the president's office actually shows such restrictions on constitutional rights, which to me, and to many media experts in particular, seem excessive and unjustified under even during the war, there are still such questions in principle

somehow raised in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe. are these topics or does anyone in principle know about them? see, against the background of a large-scale war, the topic of what journalists are allowed here in the council, and if they are allowed, only which ones? here , the topic is obvious to them, and here, by the way, in this session, an exhibition dedicated to ukrainian journalists was opened, and by the way, there was no such recent terrible news. i think you saw it about max livin that the investigation of airporters without borders, the fact that he was simply executed for the russian army. and before that, he could have been tortured, well, it’s terrible, and i think it’s just like the origins. i personally knew maxim, and well, it’s just some kind of horror, and this is exactly what the exhibition is about, that’s why such topics are of course here and and and and what you mentioned must be

decided within the state and not the other day. it is also absolutely obvious. i will tell you this question. why would someone be allowed into the verkhovna rada? they don't play me here. in fact, i don't see a problem. well, they only let the parliamentary tv channel, and because they don't is the real security marking is obvious that russia, which threatens every day to strike the so-called decision-making center, it is already becoming ridiculous, but at the same time it is clear that there is a strike at the upper council there when i don't know the president of the european parliament or some leaders of the countries, but that's for putin there will be some special pleasure, you saw it, you saw how the plane with the polish elite was destroyed in the russian sky . it is obvious that there are much more security considerations here. and where i really see a problem is the situation with the disconnection of a number of tv channels, including the espresso tv channel, from this digital broadcasting

, by the way, over time, we turned on, and yehor chechelnyk said and told this story i didn’t see that when there was a nice recording of the last video from zelenskyi’s office. well, he was making some kind of address. and what was heard there was an audio file of the espresso tv channel, that is, you are already going to it. we identify her very well. actually, all the journalists she was immediately recognized and this physical series was reproduced, of course, it is very revealing, in fact, it is a story that the government itself wants to watch, and that is why you need to see objective mass media, and not just yes, this is like a marathon, which, to be honest, is watched less and less every day i mean, i don't know how many people watch it today, and if it was clear there in the first days of the war,

now it's not clear at all in principle. and why are a number of other tv channels turned off, that is, it's not clear there three times and that's it it definitely is wrong a-a hmm, wartime leaves an impression, but it can happen in completely different ways, for example, he watches, he wants to watch unbiased media, so why not give such an opportunity to all ukrainians, especially since we are all working in the same direction for the victory of ukraine we do not have different franks here, we are all on the same page and there is a world of experience states. that is, it is already in the world. unfortunately, this happens, and after all, democratic experience does not say that something is turned off and only one tv channel, but other things that there is a responsible person in each tv channel who must communicate directly with the special services and monitor the broadcasts, bear responsibility, well, responsibility is not for whether they

praise the government or not, but responsibility for whether there is content that threatens the state. well, that's normal, i would absolutely be i am sure that the espresso tv channel, as well as the direct and the fifth, would have been built in that system without any problems and would have met all the requirements because, well, you are absolutely patriotic journalists and you yourself do not want to bring any harm to the state, but only on the contrary, that's why it's me. i think this decision is absolutely wrong, and it's not justified. they signed the corresponding draft resolutions and addressed them to the verkhovna rada. and this needs to be corrected urgently. it does not lead the country to anything good. we include not only our independence, but also our values ​​and our values ​​are the values ​​of freedom, we do not protect them and we do not have to build a second russia here. thank you, mr. oleksiy. well, let me remind you in a minute. next week, a delegation of deputies of the parliamentary assembly of the rada will visit ukraine

of europe and the committee for the protection of human rights will come, lawyers are coming, a delegation of 14 people is going to get acquainted with the facts of war crimes, what can we expect, what can this track give, please share why it is important, it is important because i will tell you every person who visited irpen in buch well, there in kharkov, unfortunately, there are few people there or in mykolaiv, but not many people get there from officials. well, even if you have not been or where you are there today, well, you can almost safely put it this way. wars are forever because the more we bring people there and show all that, the more allies we will have, that's why we demanded, asked and uh, in the very council because colleagues are going and this is a special committee that is really yurkom he is coming on monday and you are very good thank you oleksiy goncharenko, a people's deputy of ukraine, a member of the ukrainian delegation in parev, he is the

president of the committee on migration of refugees and displaced persons. i was in touch with us and is already joining our broadcast. of the duties of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2009, we wish you a warm welcome, mr. volodymyr. good day. good day. we are glad to see you, mr. volodymyr, and especially on such a patriotic occasion. will approve the recommendation of the european commission even before granting ukraine and moldova the status of a candidate for accession to the european union, this is stated in the latest draft of the conclusions themselves, the eu with which euro-active was familiarized, how positive is the forecast, mr. volodymyr, well in extremely positive yes, but still, is

there still room for uncertainty regarding the final decision of the european council on june 23-24, that is, in fact tomorrow, in general, what surprises for ukraine do you think will be included in this decision ? the event is already tomorrow, when we will receive the final result, you know, once upon a time in the diplomatic service, we had a very popular expression: don't say no until you have moved chop , that is, i am convinced that the decision will be positive, but after all, there are some possibilities so that it may not happen in the last minutes. i absolutely would not like to believe in this , but nevertheless, let's wait for the results of the voting tomorrow. to the union

now, as you know, you just said that there was an explosion , it is alleged that a draft of such a decision has already been published, which is positive for us, as for us, as it is for moldova, that the recommendation will sound differently, it is more correct that the decision regarding georgia is no less i think it would be important to realize that by accepting this decision, well, we assume that it will be positive for ukraine, the process or five membership of ukraine in the soviet union in the european union, it is just beginning, it is not the end - it is not the end of the process, it is its beginning and we need to understand it well, we can recall the conclusion of the european commission, which played a key role in the fact that states support granting us candidate status,

so the conclusion of the european commission is very clear well, at least seven such important directions have been written down , according to which a person should continue reforms and should achieve compliance with the criteria for membership in the european union. well, we are talking about the reform of the judicial constitutional court - this is also the issue of fighting corruption, and what is important to say all requirements or seven blocks of reforms that should be included in the final decision of the european council - this is the reform of the constitutional court, two, the continuation of the judicial reform 30 - this is anti-corruption, including the appointment of the head of sap, the fourth fight against money laundering, the fifth implementation of the anti-oligarchic law, the sixth implementation of the harmonization of audiovisual legislation with the european ones, the seventh amendment of the legislation on natszhil, well, regarding the last points, experts

say that this is enough, first of all, it will simply be for ukraine, and secondly, there were a number of demands from others countries, in particular, for a crack, the points were written down to appease hungary, but even so, the wording of these actual laws will be adopted and approved by the european commission, not by the hungarians. let’s put it this way, it will be possible to find a consensus the main ones are these basic reform packages, which are always the most sensitive for ukraine, the most complex, which we have been trying to implement for the past 8 years. well, i would not underestimate the importance of the last points, especially the last one, which affects hungary in isolation. we remember that it is hungary. well, plus some other countries, the european union is not happy about the fact that

ukraine will receive the status of a candidate, do you remember that even hungary's consent was connected with the fact that some analogues also get a similar opportunity other countries, in particular bosnia and this wine georgia, and therefore we will have to approach very carefully the implementation of this uh first look, that is, a small issue uh in national minorities, but he can read, he included this this law in the future, when we start to spoil on on the way to membership in the european union. so it is very important with regard to these global positions that the military commission noted in its conclusion. well, here i think that we are already in the process of implementation of the relevant legislation and you, according to us simply show political will and a certain determination

to complete the reform of the constitutional court and the justice system, as far as corruption and money laundering are concerned. we have a fairly powerful legal base to combat these phenomena. any serious questions , if there is a political will and, let's say, a political consensus in the state regarding the need to advance in these directions, if allowed , i drew attention to the fact that we will most likely get a candidacy tomorrow, but they say that that, after all, a certain hybrid candidate must pass the seven points we are talking about, this is not a condition, and then joining the european union is only a condition in order to remain a candidate. let me remind you that turkey has been a candidate since 1999 that is very firmly stuck in

this status, and ukraine can even. as far as i understand, that is, we are given this status, with a theoretical return if we do not fulfill these seven requirements, some obviously short-term prospects, or do i understand it correctly. by the way, there is no clarity either it is interesting. i think that this is a little bit incorrect, so to speak, and the comparison in the first one with turkey, you know very well that the question why has turkey been in the status of a candidate for so long and has been negotiating for more than 30 years? this is such a paradox in the history of the european union, and this question primarily depends from others, the answer to this question and the results of this process depend on turkey, there are relevant requirements that turkey does not want to fulfill, as far as our history is concerned, the same story, volodymyr, i'm sorry, we we cannot appoint the already elected head of the

sap for two years, in fact, appoint the head myself, i already said, in the presence of political will and consensus within the state, very simply, turkey has deeper disputes with the european union, but i would like to point out that the decision that will be taken tomorrow in no way is not conditioned by these points, these points are indicated as the directions that ukraine must fulfill already having started the path of acquiring membership in the status of a candidate, of course at the end of this stage of this process, the european the union will see and see. and by the way, they will be at the end of this year, and this is such an institutional requirement, so to speak, that every year, and sometimes even twice a year, the european commission of the european union will evaluate how ukraine

moves on the path to membership, we will open appropriate sections of the european union, where we will clearly implement what is written there, and therefore, by the way, there is no time frame when we will or if we will implement these seven points, then what will happen in parallel and it is simply stated that here we have questions , look, the european union has questions for us in these areas and we must fulfill them. i think that no one doubts that we must in any case complete these reforms that are mentioned in these same thank you mr. volodymyr , it’s extraordinary, it’s still really important what you’re talking about, that’s homework, yes, if it doesn’t take away from us the status of a candidate, that is, it will be in any case if

we hear a positive decision from tomorrow the council of europe, and here we see an extraordinary number of exactly such postures in the signals. this status will already be fixed for ukraine, but at the same time we will have to do our homework. this is clear. i think that the ukrainian government has also understood this, and we hope for its wisdom. the post step-by-step implementation of these e-points yes, especially since this is important for ukraine itself, this is not a task that is better for certain european countries or the eu as a whole, this is a task that we need for our own information leaves well, we say, we have to say about it that brussels reserves the right to deprive or change the status of ukraine's candidate for the european union of ukraine. to carry out these

important strategic tasks, so to speak, then of course it will become clear that it is possible for ukraine and does not need, like turkey today, to obey the lord of the european union, but i proceed from the fact that ukraine is strategic, this is written in the constitution ukraine should become a member of the european union, therefore, the fulfillment of these non-conditions, as emphasized, are not conditions , but directions, where we must bring the reforms to the end of implementation, as it is, i am one of those components that will lead us to membership, and we want membership. thank you, mr. volodymyr. i will also ask you about johnson's visit and about the four steps for the event. but that will already be included in our next one. we will be waiting for you again on the air. thank you for this interesting conversation.

britain and the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine was in touch with us in 2009. and right now yaroslav zheleznyak, people's deputy of ukraine and first deputy chairman of the committee on finance, tax and customs policy, is in touch with us and joins our conversation we welcome mr. yaroslav to our broadcast. good afternoon. well, let's actually start with the main results of the important initiatives adopted by the parliament this week, which will undoubtedly affect the life of every ukrainian . talk to mr. zhelezhnyak and let's start with it is most certain that for ukrainians it is disturbing so among the draft laws that the verkhovna rada considered this week 74:18 amendments to the tax code in the section on the abolition of exemption from customs duties and vat taxation of imported goods, including

cars, in fact, the verkhovna rada the council returns customs duties and vat taxation on imported goods, and in particular on customs clearance of cars e 234 for this government draft law and actually it is about what the customs office analyzed and decided that a large number the goods that were exempted from us are not essential items and those that ensure the uninterrupted operation of the economy, but they were included in the list of the budget forming, well, in the context of the customs clearance of cars actually, i think that it worries everyone the most that from the first of july ukrainians will no longer be able to get a car it is cheaper to use cars that could be imported during martial law on the territory of ukraine, passenger cars, motorcycles, trailers for cars, vehicles for the transportation of goods, long queues at at the checkpoints caused these e hmm this is

a temporary exemption from customs duties well, what can we say about this decision, in your opinion, is it fair because martial law continues, but cars from abroad , even if they are imported to replace the ones destroyed by the occupiers in without duties, now i am not asking, mr. yaroslav, i think that some politicians, before proposing any whites to the parliament, sometimes need to include their brains, what do i think about this, it was a populist decision from the very beginning, it was not thought out, frankly says that it seems to me that again, how much some politicians wanted to trade face in the parliament and collect likes so as not to list the consequences of queues about injustice, it is true that it is unfair that our boys and girls who are at the front now can not take advantage of this privilege, it is true that many people really lost a car. i am from the city of mariupol with many of

my citizens, who are with our citizens, but with my friends, acquaintances, we are just people i talk to who lost their cars, none of them are there now there is an opportunity to buy a new one regardless of whether there is a benefit or not. but we did not make such a benefit for them, but for those many who decided to take advantage of the opportunity and then enter it for a refund, it worked for us, it is really unfair that we did not make it possible for those who from whose car they in you in the united states are passing now for a conditional service in georgia or in romania in what in hungary or in there conditionally in bulgaria and now the price of transportation has risen significantly for them this is a few weeks ago once again i believe that this was a fool from the very beginning at the beginning, it was ill-conceived, according to the number of destroyed cars, we have approximately

105,000 cars destroyed, and 200,000 have already been destroyed. i think that the market is moving, but from any point of view, this decision is unfair and, again, it is not well thought out . from the very beginning to the very end, where is its cancellation? therefore, the issue of simplifying customs clearance through the e-e application of the action will now be discussed. i think that there will be discussions about our armed forces and all other issues related to goods, again such the argument itself. it seems to me that this proposal , well, it frankly says that it was devoid of any meaning, we got a situation when we made it so that our producers were 20% more expensive from the very beginning. misha is foreign because he did not pay vat , but the ukrainian producer does. tell me, please laska and these benefits, we really wanted to support imports, now we are looking at what kind of hypoport was the most popular category. yes, they also talked about the fact that this is so that we do not have a shortage of

goods in ukraine, and so on. we are looking at what is imported according to this bible, mobile phones, clothes, fur coats, they wrote it, ah, ah, tires, car jewelry, that 's really what was necessary during the war, in fact, because of this, we lose money in the budget when we don't have enough 150 billion, in fact, for this, they wanted to make queues at customs so that she citizens were standing, dear friends. well, when they say that there should be a discussion in the parliament, and here i am behind the camera, not only in the direction of the coalition. the decision is not considered and not considered, then we get p yaroslav, according to this story, valery the baker spoke about yesterday's removal of myths , eh, i saw that you also read this post, and actually

its essence is that valery the baker thinks that it is ukrainian entrepreneurs, teachers business meetings of the kyiv-mohyla region about the fact that, on the one hand, customs duties were removed, and on the other hand, the goal of e-e was to return benefits, benefits were left to customs, for example, for industrial parks, and according to the baker, this will be used again for corruption, for dishonest competition and he says that if you want a free economy with an open market and you have groups of goods that are defined as those that stimulate business activity now, make them open to everyone and not to those who are there by order of the prime minister, the president or some other lobbyists and friends in the government also received the status of some people who are tangential to some industrial parks. well, this is the logic, and on the other hand, there is mr. popereshnyuk - he is one of the owners of nova poshta. i understand that he may be interested to some extent, too. a person

you probably are, because he is interested in the flow of goods to a greater extent, he generally criticizes the withdrawal now, do you think that at this time, when ukrainians, relatively speaking, cannot pay more? and the return of vat on e-customs goods, for example, food, is simply forcing ukrainians to pay more at a time when they can to buy cheaper products, for example , imported from the same poland. here are two positions that you are offered to speak to each of them. it is an honor to communicate with them, but he is completely right. look. but that's the truth, what a thermal. when the minister of finance comes out, he tells us that we don't have enough 150 billion a month to cover this budget . the minister of energy comes out, friends say, if we don't buy 5 billion dollars, our

tariffs will increase threefold. sometimes the military comes out to us and says that they lack a lot of things that need to be purchased, the government comes out and says that let's cancel benefits for cars, for products and so on because there is not enough money, the parliament votes for all this and does it at the same time discounts for large businesses that will work for an industrial case for 10 years and minus customs duty on equipment is enough schizophrenia further if i well at least i would believe if it somehow helped to conduct business or investments in our country but let's count how many tax systems we have at the same time in one country, the general system is a single system, a single system by 2%, there are also four types of simpliciters , not a single system.

towns and now a completely different preferential taxation for industrial parks has appeared. well, it does n't work like that, friends. you don't invest in this country because of taxes, they don't because of the fact that there are corrupt judges, officials, bureaucracy, and he also appeared before the tax office. unfortunately, the risk is military. that is why there are no investments here, that is why i think i did not vote for the industrial park decision. i consider it a stupid lebian and frankly say something like that. which i cannot explain , even with all the desire. why was it? done now, what mr. poperezhnyuk says, he has one tripod so it is cheaper because they are immediately 20% cheaper and i have them. well, i am now in my office . so, it means that here is a paper and this is an application from the business of associations which