you didn't understand that without an effective anti- monopoly committee, we can't talk about getting rid of the oligarchs at all. well, there's also the anti- corruption block itself. finally, the head of the sapa is interesting here, i really agree with the journalist of the european pravda, who draws attention to the fact that for the first time it is recommended to appoint a specific person, that is, there is actually an analyst about the fact that the competition was held to appoint exactly the one who was determined by the competition, that is, for that in advance, why is it correct that there is mistrust or to warn of the possibility of some kind of fraud, because sometimes they say, let's give it two years, we can't mark it, let's hold another competition , no, they say, you have already chosen a person, appoint him now , do it. anyway, on the other hand, the day before yesterday there is such news, i also want to interpret it somehow that finally the tapes of the odious vovk of this judge

of the district a-a appeal and the court have finally been handed over to the court nabu e-e what h- can it be after all, there will be a breakthrough. sorry, i will correct you a little. i do not agree with the fact that they indicated to appoint a specific person, they are in no way lost in our processes. to appoint a winner, the winner was determined, including with the participation of representatives from ukraine. that is, it was not a commission consisting exclusively of representatives from abroad, that is, in fact, it is a person who was recognized as the winner and by our representatives from the side of ukraine and from the side of the western partners. and why do they write about it like this, really, you yourself know that already for the first month of the first year we are trying in every possible way to avoid forming a full-fledged anti- corruption infrastructure. why are we trying

to avoid it, because it seems to me that in any the representative of the government understands very well that as soon as this triad of sap, nabuvax, e-e is formed today, leave only sap, tomorrow we will again face a competition for the head of the nabu. that is, the ceners in ukraine will be for elite corrupt people, i think so there will be little space for the name because these structures are really independent, they are not under the influence of our officials, we have seen this, including from the vovka tapes that you mentioned and, accordingly, many representatives of the authorities who are involved in corruption schemes, they do not want this evil fate and influence the leadership of the state in every possible way , either by true messengers or by false ones, and here there may be different variations regarding the participation of one or another high- ranking ukrainian official in this corruption. and so that this slow down the process and does the case of vovka's transfer of tapes show that there really is a breakthrough, i

would say that we have a window of opportunity and e this can really be stated because the fulfillment of these requirements is tied not simply to the beginning of our negotiations on joining the eu and about the fact that we may lose the status of a-a candidate in general and for ukrainian society it will of course be a very painful blow and they will demand an answer from the a-a state leadership why did this happen , moldova is also walking next to us and here it seems to me the editor-in-chief of the european pravda just drew attention to this. i would like to say once again that there will really be some competition between us and moldova. us as much as we will actively demand from the authorities to implement it. because here it is necessary to distinguish between what is not on time in wartime and what is on time. if some

global things are essential, they may not be on time because military actions really prevent this. for example, the appointment of the head of sap for example, it is a normal competition for the head of nabu for example, the antimonopoly reform today nothing prevents the authorities from doing this and it seems to me that just here there is healthy criticism from society and absolutely legal pressure from our side in accordance with direct democracy the government to fulfill these requirements, it is not just harmful, but it is actually very useful today for today's situation for our victory in the war, because the sooner the government will fulfill it accordingly, we will have more trust in us, more trust in us and more help to us. thank you, ladies, for your expert comments for the opportunity to join our broadcast

. 'yazku well, our next guest is boris kushniruk, the economist of stepan boris is already with us. of ministers because the cabinet of ministers initiated the speech and submitted a bill, a whole bill which is supposed to prohibit the increase in tariffs , impose a moratorium on this increase until the end of the war, plus six months for gas in connection with the war in connection with prices and so on. well, in the first place read approval of these draft laws, so what is the question - why does the cabinet of ministers simply not make it its order, well, there are some decisions of the constitutional court that this is a matter of tariff regulation, this is completely a prerogative the cabinet of ministers and what is the purpose of adopting a law and involving legislators in it? so the question immediately

arises . then there were a-a contradictions between the norms of the law. and we have such a--years happen when some norms contradict others. i think that the adoption of the law and the restriction, well, the establishment of this restriction by law is probably appropriate in order to precisely remove the possible there will be misunderstandings about what the rules are are decisive, and then so that someone in the courts does not, uh, does not cancel the government resolution, if you adopted them yourself without a law, there is another problem, that is, in general, so far, the number is well, it is clear that if you do not raise the tariffs, but gas costs are not even pre-war money costs many times more

, inflation is already double-digit, and it is clear that the money must be compensated for by something. and it is planned to allocate 264 billion uah of budget funds for this purpose, and this is aid that has not actually been received, including the western and from them as well there are profits. as far as i understand naftogaz, and uah 76 billion with all these sums goes to pay off the debts of regional gas companies, which until recently belonged to firtush, it somehow looks quite strange in my opinion. that is, these are private debts that will be extinguished under the guise of curbing the rise in tariffs at the expense of budget funds at the expense of the public debt at the expense of taxpayers. well, here we need to divide all this

story into several components. let's take the last one, it is really the most controversial, because it is necessary to understand what qualities are transferred by these insults, it's property, it's like there was no confiscation of property, it's just handing it over to management, it's about nothing, because it means that it actually remains on the campaigns associated with mr. firtosh, and really in this case there is a question that the state is actually paying off the debts, and again, the question here is in what form, how will the repayment of these debts be formalized by the gas workshop to nakanaftogaz, because i can pay it off in such a way as to keep the debt to the regional gas companies. it there will be a reason for the next one, let's say selection on the basis of a court decision that they

need to be given to the state in compensation for the debt, this may be why, again, i am careful here because you need to see how cracks the legal model they write that it really isn't a model that debts are written off ether that and his own remains with him in the form of e-e oblogaz because the fact that they have now been handed over to the state this does not mean that they have been e-e confiscated well, so far this moment is very difficult because the debts will be repaid and then these all these regions will return after the war to mr. ether, too, and well, it’s kind of a lot, let ’s go, let’s go, let’s watch this story, when it will be legally formalized according to the aa principle, nothing disappears anywhere , it is refused, that is, everything should be even some

relations, well, law and debt are related to this debt, why was it necessary to pay off the debt, the obligation to the company, in which it was transferred to the management in order to at least settle the relationship, is already further related to the company by what naconaftogaz must be transferred by this company, the company should transfer the gas, and if they plan to transfer it without prior payment, then in this case, it was necessary to settle the situation with the previous debt, just forgive her, firtash, it was hardly correct, so again after all, i would like to see the legal scheme of what they are planning to do, could there be a critical component of corruption here, it is possible, knowing our opportunists, but i would not rush

to be an accuser until i see it legally, all eh well, let's say the mechanisms of how the debt will be closed a-and how will eh in this case be determined in this case, the relationship is connected with the existing debt of these eh regional gas companies because there are certain nuances that are quite tricky eh we do not know to what extent these enterprises that are controlled by ether also recognize this debt a-a a-a or well, there is also a separate story here, because naftogaz says that there is a debt of these regional gas companies to the naftogaz naks. this does not mean that er, these campaigns recognize this and it is also a separate story and it is needed to study in general, in general, well, we are entering the purely legal plane of many factors that are better

to study on the basis of documents and not just there emotional phrases uh and what we now see are only so general phrases that exist mr. expressions just let's just try to evaluate in your opinion i don't know how optimal it is, this solution is simply imposing a moratorium on all those tariffs because well, i understand that in a war, as in a war, the winter will obviously be a hard winter, where the hostilities will continue, how will it be now, well, there catastrophic but again in war as in war but the question is simply that and can those who can pay still partially at least bear this burden and look first let's see i'm inclined to be an optimist and i think that by the middle in the autumn, i think that even earlier, because in the stage of hostilities on the territory of ukraine, the entrepreneur is a--the only question is whether we will be able to completely

liberate all the occupied territories. with vinnytsia territory, therefore, the active phase of hostilities will end, this is first about optimism regarding a-a stopping the imposition of a moratorium on tariff increases . i am a supporter of moratoriums on the establishment of tariff increases or reductions and so on, so i quite agree with it and the populist does not accept it, but in the conditions of war. and this decision is correct, why? because , first of all, you really have problems that part it is not capable of extinguishing and people are part of it. there are simply no people in ukraine, and this is also a separate problem.

imagine that you are losing heat - an apartment building in which people do not live because they are refugees. how should you charge them? but will you receive funds from them? no you can. well, just at the word in general, and this is also a question. how will you then pay off this debt from them , after all, so that you do not at least pay this debt? to partially subsidize teplokomunenergo and the utility sector in general, because there are undoubtedly people for many reasons and the absence of these people as such, and they definitely won’t be able to pay the tariffs that should be if we just took yes, with a tracing paper, they would apply the

new gas prices to the tariffs. it is clear, mr. boris. well, a little bit about the heating season. there are two minutes left for the answer . the heating season has accumulated 10 billion cubic meters of gas even a little more and the government is considering various options for the energy energy situation of responding to the heating season 22-23 is working to ensure a storage of sufficient fuel so that the population is warm and provided regardless of the development of events on the front at the same time the usa has declared its readiness to support ukraine in preparation for the next heating season, which forecasts are not frozen due to the russian invasion and energy blackmail 2 i'm asking for a minute, but the situation will be difficult, it's obvious , and you need to understand what billions are, 10 billion of which are active gas, and only 5.5 billion are er times, which actually cannot be lifted

from the east, so there are only 5.5 billion and this is not enough for other matters. what is there now, it’s only june, and it’s still june, and the pumping into different storages continues primarily due to surprise, although some have been reduced, but because of this, it is not so significant and we have for the time being, the possibility of pumping this gas into other problems is the question of those populated cities in general points that have been very significantly affected and will not only be affected by the russian military aggression and destruction literally today somewhere in some populated place, because now you can make a mistake in the kharkiv region or in the sumy region, where exactly the enterprises were destroyed and big energy that

was prepared just before the winter for the heating season and here there will be a problem that part of the territory will simply be without physical heat we are watching the plot and investigation of our colleague tetyana shustrova, ukrainian judges in the service of kremlin-connected oligarchs oleksandr babakov and yevhen ginner, who are part of the field of friends of putin, do not stop trying to seize one of the most powerful ukrainian enterprises in the poltava mining and processing plant and russians affiliated with it for several years now, offshore firms have been challenging the transfer of the plant's shares to foreign investors of the forexo group of companies, and at the same time, the key role in the case of gaining control over the enterprise has apparently been assigned to the judges of the northern of the commercial court of appeal, which on june 23 is to consider the case of the kremlin raiders, how putin's friends can destroy the ukrainian economy even without firing a single shot, see the investigation

of shustro's life program, well, we say goodbye to maria and see you tomorrow , don't let the war over the fergspo mining and processing plant take over ukrainian business as putin's friends are trying to destroy the ukrainian economy will not be passed in the courts and a legal point will not be made, the activity of our work will be questioned and how ukrainian judges help the invaders see further from the beginning of the open military invasion of the russian federation at the end of february 2022, the topic of confiscation of russian assets became active in ukraine on march 3, the verkhovna rada adopted a law on the forced seizure of objects of property rights of the aggressor country and its residents, and president volodymyr zelenskyi introduced

effect of the decision on the forced seizure of the assets of the russian industrial investment bank and amended the law on sanctions that allow to seize the assets of any russians where the decision will be made by the vacc and where there are several dozen criteria that are used to determine the persons who will be subject to sanctions, including the sanction in the form of confiscation of property into state income, there is another law on the same nationalization of the property of the russian state, and while with one hand, ukraine deals a serious economic blow to russian business, with the other, it allows russian money to influence domestic politics and the economy. with the kremlin of businessmen on poltava mining and beneficiation plant is one of the largest enterprises in ukraine that exports

products all over the world and provides jobs for about 6,000 workers . working conditions, new production technologies and powerful economic support for the development of the region, all this poltava region now risks losing the company due to corruption courts, they the legal way is trying to take control of the company from the legitimate owners, they are trying to seize the current deputy chairman of the russian state duma, oleksandr babakov, together with his companion yevgeny giner, the president of the central sports club of the russian army, and they are doing it through controlled offshore companies and the ukrainian judicial system, which still

remains unreformed, the biggest problem with the judicial power in ukraine is honest judges, in fact, the quality of judges, because for years and decades, we have recruited godfathers there the matchmakers of the controlled and corrupt in order to be able to maximally influence this system of lies and recognition of the ldr. he is currently under the sanctions of ukraine, the united states and the eu. and in the united states , a criminal case is being investigated for the implementation of hostile political plans against ukraine and the united states. this is oleksandr babakov, this intensive the person who , as a deputy, voted for the annexation of crimea, is currently the deputy chairman of the state duma of russia, is a co-adviser, is a confidant of putin , the second person is also a citizen of russia federation is yevgeny giner, he is the owner of the football club csk stands for the

central sports club of the army of the russian federation giner is also under us sanctions, in addition, he is a partner of the russian corporation rostec, which exports military products and is headed by an old friend of vladimir putin, sergey chemezok of aviation it is all produced at our enterprises. we have all brands of aircraft. this engine is an engine company that produces all engines in that volume including for space and for airplanes and for helicopters and even for ships and civil and military , the ukrainian state bureau investigated the leaders of the luzhniki organized crime group about what was said in the joint investigation of the scheme program on radio svoboda and the scanner project, according to the conclusions of the dbr, the specified group of russian citizens

illegally obtained a number of objects of ukrainian critical infrastructure through manipulations poltava gsk is another critical object for ukraine, control over which kremlin businessmen are trying to seize assets trials have begun in 2005, it was then that four offshore companies, which the media linked to businessmen close to the kremlin, babakov and giner, started the process of the allegedly illegal purchase of poltava gsk by the international group of the forexpo company to a japanese company, a chinese company to a secular company, a german company, and they will not understand this in any way in the absence of any legal grounds, the enterprise can come from one owner to another owner in order to take the combine from the investors, the former owners of the enterprise have already tried several times through the court to invalidate the contracts for the sale of shares, but they

lost, to refuse to comply with subpoenas to invalidate all changes to the charter of ojsc poltava gzk made after november 20, 2002 , after the final court decision , kremlin-connected businessmen from the luzhniki criminal group decided to launch another round of court cases in in 2020, the specified offshore companies again filed a lawsuit challenging the purchase of poltava gzk in 2002, but as a result, the court rejected the lawsuit , once again repeating the position expressed by the courts about lack of grounds for transferring the ukrainian enterprise under the control of the kremlin oligarchs. at the end of last year, news began to appear in the media that the indicated russians intensified the attack on the poltava industrial complex with the possible participation of the ukrainian oligarch ihor kolomoiskyi. apparently, the

judges of the northern appellate commercial court and use for this purpose the widely known scheme of transferring the case to convenient judges by submitting endless appeals to judges who were determined by the system of automatic distribution of court cases, the judiciary as it is, it has always served the oligarchs and was and is a part of this oligarchic system. barsyuk is the wife of lawyer viktor barsyuk, who used to be a lawyer of the poltava district court, but later went to work in the office of ihor kolomoisky, judging by the composition of the court, maryna barsyuk is no longer participating in the proceedings instead, the presiding judge of the case is lyudmila

kropyvna, who was also in the panel of judges at which russian oligarchs stopped their choice last year due to a series of appeals, the other judges of the panel, marina rudenko and viktor shapran, are also related to marina barsyuk to one degree or another, as they are part of the same and of the same panel of judges, maryna rudenko is known for the fact that at one time ukrnafta, under the control of kolomoysk, openly asked to transfer the cases against her to this very judge . about viktor shafran, the media told how he the district administrative court of pavel vovka sought the right not to pay taxes from his salary. another hearing of the case on granting control over polta zyka to businessmen connected with the kremlin in the northern court of appeal is scheduled for june 23. the company's employees demand a fair decision if the company comes

under the control of offshore companies. currently, through the judicial authorities, they are trying to establish control over it, that is an illegal order, it will simply be destroyed, we demand a fair decision, no let us take over ukrainian business, meanwhile, the damage caused by russia to ukraine is astronomical, according to the calculations of the kyiv school of economics, as of the beginning of june, the amount of direct damage from the destruction of buildings and infrastructure is more than 100 billion dollars, and this figure will only grow, as hostilities continue and the aggressor country continues to occupy ukrainian territories, while the vice-speaker of the russian state duma, babakov, freely with the luzhnikovskys set his sights on the powerful enterprise of poltava oblast ukrainian assets in the program of the propagandist solovyov gate. i would like to say that the costs

should go there under the budget, we should consider in this territory what kind of economic is ready to embody ideas and implement them based on the understanding that production there is future income and these territories of russia including exploratory investment, it is not based on our budget possibilities and converged possibilities of the needs of the economy of these territories , the illegal transfer of important ukrainian enterprises under the control of putin's friends will testify that the russians are capable of destroying the ukrainian economy at all without firing a shot, for this they only need to choose the right judge unconquered cities of ukraine are cozy and comfortable kharkiv, a city of students of science and industry, a city that has been

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