began and how did the day pass on february 24, 2022, when the war started in ukraine, this is the worst, i remember, just before that, you remember, there was such anxiety that flew straight everywhere. flew off for a few days with my daughter in lisobom and this is such a vacation when you just count the minutes to return home, well, that is, for me, home to paris and i was so happy that i have already returned home and i am sleeping in my bed and my husband is also here once in a while at 5:00 in the morning, a friend from lyon calls me and says you heard in kyiv kharkiv will be crushed and i had a panic attack i started to suffocate at that moment and well, it's just this is something so inevitable that means it's you first you turn on the denial no it ca n't be the next second i already called my closest friend who told me don't put the

phone down for me, i'm walking towards the obukhiv road with the dog, then i called my parents on zahidna, well, actually, it was already about kyiv, and then my sister, and then everyone started calling me, asking if my parents had room in a hotel in yaremchi, because people began to leave kyiv en masse and we immediately did this in my mother's house and immediately made a hut for my mother at that moment and this was actually a place to shelter refugees in france . how did they react to the war in ukraine ? i'm not talking about politicians, about any opinion leaders. but in general, it's the people of the population. how did you feel that they are with us or they are not with us? these are the first signs of this. well , here, of course, everyone is asking me terribly

about this question, which you already hear. how is yours family well, it's as if you can only worry about your family and they don't understand how important it is for us, every ukrainian, everything is important there, mariupol, although i've never been there, mariupol is so important donetsk, although i've been there maybe once or twice in my life, a- and i was immediately invited to some tv channel for all news. i thought that it would be a short 10-minute comment about the war, and it was for such a reason, because i had to sit there for two hours and talk to such very vocal pro-putin dudes, that is, to the former marina's advisor, fen, with her ex- advisor, zemur, who started talking about the fact that the maidan was paid for by the americans, and you have such a simple surg when it comes to dudes, we have a war, and you are attacking me now, i was gossiping. i quarreled with them and realized that after that, i - and in principle, it is not

scary in life, but nothing at all after and everything after that, such an epic began. with all the press , when it was necessary to tell what was happening, to tell, to tell the story of your friends , to tell the sentiments of and why not ukrainians yes they just won't get together. and then there were all these 100,500 experts who were wrong, starting with the fact that kyiv will fall in three days, er, ending with the fact that oh, on may 9, there will be such an attack shorter, and that's all clear , the value of these forecasts a and b, while well i am a ukrainian. i operate on the facts. well, when people write to me, i tell them what is happening now, so not all cities, for example, have special hours, but i want to say that the disputes work very well, they are in many hot spots, that is, ukraine was very well covered in the media now. a little slept it all because the parliamentary elections are in all the news, and hmmm, but very well, no war has ever

been so well and reliably covered as ours, because there are no such dangerous cities everywhere, even in very, very dangerous cities. people there in lviv, for example , journalists, yes the french or in kyiv, where plus or minus they feel protected, and in fact they drive , they drive there and in mariupol, correspondents were there and there are now in donetsk region, that is, they work well and here i can’t say anything, mostly on all tv platforms, experts, when the camera is turned on, they they support ukraine, well, that says something, there are exiled cossacks, there is one interesting group - they are former ambassadors to russia or some diplomats. that ukraine doesn't believe in negotiations, then we don't believe in military victory, military words like that, of course and that's all the same.

russians are bad, you shouldn't single out russia. you can't isolate russia and further on. they have this all over the disk. unfortunately, even when the cameras are turned on, they don't say that. then when the camera is turned off, the camera is turned off, they are very they talk a lot and are not ashamed that there is a ukrainian woman present there , i happened to be there and they start talking but no, well, you can’t hold everything, the north verodones will have to fly and what did you want well, it’s so interesting because when the camera turns on again, i give them a reason and say but you just said that ours will not be able to hold back from severodonetsk, for example, there or some others, so i am starting to mock her arguments, well , in our ukrainian arguments, the game is shorter , and if they are listening to me now, are those who are in the same role as i remember, it's just that when they give too many abstract things, for example, how e there at the

nitrogen plant, they say they are even free, you tell them yes, yes, out of 500 civilians, 40 of them are children , so many thousands of people died there, you say yes, and among them my friend who is there three children of which wife he is waiting there. here is what he wrote to her right away, well, that is, you always have to give in to a countermeasure and i cannot turn into statistics, so the war cannot simply turn into some kind of uh, a set of news , in which direction, the idea is just in the cards, always hit people's stories, come out with illustrations so this is what will be said to the ordinary for life that there are especially half-layers of military expertise and you are not, for example, a military aspect i am not a military expert i am a writer and i am a citizen of ukraine and it also hurts me very much because my relatives the best closest people, are they currently there at the front or are they volunteering? so let's have such cases. yes , it is also very important to thank the citizens of the foreign country where you are. if there are any

positive actions regarding ukraine, she sheltered refugees there, and when they arrived, they brought something there, they went to a demonstration you always have to put pressure on your government, this is also a very good thing that you like when you see that your government should be at the height of your citizens, because it is not always like that. i see a website or something, some kind of insurance country that i wanted to say yes. and by the way, the school treats the children very well, so, uh, uh, they accept, yes, well . and it’s just, well, between us, i can say that ukrainians do not always behave well, only refugees, yes , there are a lot of questions. i would like to somehow wish people to behave more uh adequately in relation to the situation . not thrown away yes, now and then

well, that is, there are a lot of nuances, but you have to keep a positive face, remember that you want to help a nice person and a nice country more than those who are aggressive, who are unhappy, who blame and always tell me it's not enough, so if they ask for something, do it so that people i wanted to give it to you, but he did n't give us anything. it's so simple, again, with regard to the french, their specifics are like this, and i wanted to say something else so wisely. we have our broadcast on youtube and plus a chat and people ask questions. how do you feel about good russian musicians? i would expand this question, because yesterday the verkhovna rada of ukraine banned the distribution of russian literature in our country. also russian-speaking and russian music, and it is now not possible to broadcast singing well

, in principle, it is a ban, that is, all russian literature, music, finally, we have waited, will this not happen and how do you feel about the so-called good ones russian musicians of good russian literature, and is ukraine ready today to cut it off, at least for a while, and live by its culture, spread and expand, tire, i would say so, and actually forget about the fact that there is something out there somewhere. i calmly somehow melted in victoria of lviv there on balzac on maupassant on flaubert on your boys, i had enough of them, there are still beautiful germans there like remarka, there are also americans and they fight free, he also reads bukovsky, world literature is so much world music is even more important to us, why is it not russian music to you, because there is normal music there or something? well, it is all the descendants of sovka, and then there are some musicians who expressed their position, like that

shevchuk, in ukrainian, who is of ukrainian origin, shevchuk khyzhakov, that's how i remember i know that she is so pretty hard and then there are such things that i think that these pens can be good like there in the summer, so what kind of writer is there, multi-putin 's harrassment when she left and then once again and yesterday i was watching toronto tv and they were showing an excerpt of the interview with the scumbag who says, oh , the right moment, crimea was taken, is there such a russian -speaking city like that, and it's such a blaha-mukha, what is this, i'm dumb, well, really, i think that if you listen to any good russian, there will be so many anthems of this of the imperial oh my god, now you are showing the propagandist this in general slippers it was so obvious to all of us that this is a fake, well, it is not a fake, it is a production, and, like, what is this trojan film, and here, yes, oat someone is cool and in short , that is, administratively these are mugs on time in our country first of all, there is enough of its own cultural product, and secondly, it is necessary to work on it so that it is not

counterproductive. you see, when quotas were introduced, at one point there was a lot of music in rivne, but it was ukrainian-speaking, well, the same pop music is russian-type in its essence, but ukrainian . language and it's also a matter of taste - it's a matter of upbringing. i think that ukrainians have a very cool potential and with taste and openness to the world. just look at the passing audience at any concerts of western musicians. words, everyone knows english, it is necessary to promote the introduction of the english language, it is necessary, it was there, well , not the second state, which i am joking, but so that you know, like the scandinavian countries when everyone can speak english and all this opens up a whole new world for education and for culture and for everything and all well , in my opinion, it's enough to look around, you understand, culture is soft power because of the fact that we are now, we are all dostoevsky's plant in russian cinema and we have an otsenomaisk from soviet cinema and this shit with light steam and something else like that, well, somewhere it is stitched, you understand, it gives this nose, then

for the enemy, because the first thing that we get dirty with is good russian ones, and still, i don’t know , even though i do. it's cool to watch in the ukrainian translation or in the original, are there already all these platforms from above, this is now. they will not be rammed for 12 days, and ending with literature and everything, although if you dig there, it is clear that there will be criticism of russian classics about which russia is arab, but how dirty it is, but what kind of country it is, well, that is, for foreigners to understand russia, they should better read this about the farewell customs and russia and uniformed, who are actually the counterpart of the current kgb. by the way, the fsb, but damn it is so difficult for me to get into theirs honestly, all these debris and to re-read something, i’d rather re-read a world classic , another yes thank god there are ukrainian translations

and thank god there many of us read in the original e-e it’s just one of the cultures that is more promoted than others, why is it so loved in the west because there is this myth, which i probably don’t know, by the same dostoyevsky there or by humilov, spread about this exotic longing of this and that thank you my soul na-na-na-na-na and they don’t understand that this is an exotic and compound cranberry this we have this cranberry like this that's more than necessary, that's how they have it, for example, i want to say, maybe the french don't know this, when the russian corps of expeditionary troops shot in paris for alexander the first, when they defeated napoleon, and they ate there, ate, drank, drank, got drunk, and what's interesting is that when they were leaving paris well it was necessary to pay debts now russians in ukraine do not pay debts they steal and then russians were a little more aristocratic so i said so and then he paid these debts he played in vorontsov

he then married a polish noblewoman she gave him her staff money, in fact, and he became the governor of novorossiya, then pushkin came to see him in odesa and to his wife, countess frantsova, he wrote a poem е храни меня мы talisman, and here is count vorontsov, who paid for all the russians in paris, he wrote a circle the fool went crazy yes there and so on well, that is, he was offended because he was well, as if this man from vorontsov and pushkin loved her is such a complicated story, but i believe that the russians were still in paris a very, very long time ago, it was not the time when they were in berlin with the germans now there is a certain so certain such a guilt obviously concealed maybe what are they here we had them in berlin. and we once attacked them,

although, again, the ukrainians suffered much more in the second world war than the russians, but the french were defeated, who. well, this war with russia was older, at the beginning of the 19th century, do they have any complex in front of russia, this complex does not exist, and if it exists , why is it expressed? history, it was the soviet union and russia ukraine was part of it, and then i will tell you how many millions of ukrainians died in the second world war, that is, what you call the general word русский, it refers to 15 republics that were part of the soviet union at that time, this should also be reminded because, unfortunately, it too, it should be mass culture, when they show it on saturday, today a police car drives by, when they show dogs, and they say, oh, it’s all russian, and the repressed people

had their own stories. we were there for the first time at the end of the 19th century, when, um, somehow there the russian tsar forbade the austrians to interfere in the war, and they lost the war and will be remembered for something else. it was like, again, the russian tsars at the beginning of the 20th century pointed to the end of money under a bond. some of these bonds are beautiful and still in many families . they are still lying there and you can hang them on simka, but the russians didn’t pay , they just lied, that is, they just lied, that is, it is these things. for example, they need to be reminded of guilt complexes . russians, all these shitty georgievs and creatives, that’s all shorter here, they have saevsky. here it is. when it becomes simple, russia will continue. well, more precisely, over the centuries, it invested in its cultural promotion, yes, this diagelev, who took all these

theaters and ballets there on tour, and they got used to that this is something very high spiritual and now they do not see , of course, what is the abyss behind all this, but they still have no reason to ban tchaikovsky. well, i say, you can not ban his ukrainian roots at all. conversation and now they already distinguish between ukrainian and russian well, relatively speaking, maybe many people don't distinguish there, let's say i don't know, uh, belgian, dutch, maybe someone doesn't distinguish between other peoples in europe, but the french now understand what ukraine is and what russia is and this border that passes between our peoples , is it obvious to them or do they see it for themselves? well, as if they say so, we understand, but in reality they don't . i think that somewhere they still don't fully understand , the language sounds very similar to them, and i'm getting straight to the point sometimes the enemies look at me like that and i say that,

where do they think i am from, and they, well, the language sounds like russian. i say, god, i am from ukraine, that is, i am curious that people hear the universal language and are like that. yes, it must be some kind of muscovite. well, even though i speak ukrainian, then i explain to them that in ukrainian russian similarities are somewhere like french and italian, even less . by the way, less eh. hmm, they understand the context, but there are still enough people who say, well, that’s the way the free west began in america, there it provoked russia, eh, there’s still not enough of some let's be like that hmm explanatory, yes, i have this idea to make a podcast for the radio there with an explanation there about the french, about the ukrainian language, culture, about history, about science, so that it would somehow be a little clearer for people, but again, you have to consolidate your efforts, because there, when one at a time, you you do it. it's a little difficult, it's shorter, anyway, well, ukraine

hasn't yet invested enough cultural capital in us , all these institutes are quite young, so it's already poroshenko. they appeared, and this and the ukrainian institute and the ukrainian institute of books, that is, they are good, they are active, but this is still too much little time it went like this, the war greatly accelerates interest in such things, there is more interest, but sometimes they publish everything that comes across, some incomprehensible brochures by some authors who quickly wrote local ones, yes, who can be very liberal, but they are there. with a normal book, we are already there 10 delete ukraine is already a report card, yes, that is, everything changes very quickly a-a i like to think that every such historical catastrophe is also an opportunity and now ukraine is going - it is really an opportunity to show themselves from the good side, and the media, for example , in france, they help us. they never show any dirt in ukraine, there is some, well, there is

enough of it. yes, you and i know that they show beautiful people and they show beautiful architectural moments, that is, they emphasize the commonality of that that we have european, european consequences, so it is good because i think that in other countries it is not necessary, so it may not be necessary in other media as well, as this soldier, an american cat under torture, says well under the threat of torture, he says that ukraine is a terrible country, it is very corrupt, yes, it is actually an understandable move to not give us weapons, you and i know that we have quite a lot of corruption, well, a lot, and what i am saying, for example, an argument against corruption, but we are very sensitive civil society, you never dreamed that our people are very reactive. and when something doesn't suit us, we change the government. we change the president. we already have a lot of experience in this sense. we don't transform. these things like action, well, that is, you always have to insist on innovation, so first of all, we are a community, and

look, we have kyiv in odesa, by the way, near the polisher, but near the minkurt, there is an exhibition where ukraine is cultural heritage, actually, such architectural moments. so we went to the minister of culture agreed nicely. that is, there are a lot of people of all kinds of these insulters, they can look at what is similar to odesa , for example. well, what are similar and so have some promos , but these are some such point shots. it is clear that it needs to be somehow more massed, it would be it would be good if it was more inclusive than in russia. yes, i understand that they are all simply overloaded , there are not so many specialists in each country who would speak this language and have a connection, but it is now one of the necessities, and that is the cultural front , to try and show something cool, that is there are actions yes, but somehow it is necessary to do it in a more systematic way maybe create some kind of strategy maybe it already exists, i just honestly didn’t follow it because i’m

so busy with two tv broadcasts per day of the french ones and it’s an hour to get there 2 hours sit back an hour and here are two such broadcasts, you know what completely eats up the day. and i still have to hand in the book, so if i really do now, i will ask my colleagues to watch the video, so it means that the russians are destroying ukrainian cities and taking people to russia they are killing people in mariupol. there are just mountains of corpses lying there. by the way, it will be interesting to ask you later how do you know in paris and in france in general about the tragedy of mariupol and whether they understand how it is possible in the xxi century to just dump people in such a crowd and just bodies lying on the street, everything stinks. well, that's how life happens, and that means all the settlements where russian weapons have arrived. as they say, it means that russian cultural figures are coming to bring this russian peace. there were a lot of them there, but we wrote them down - by the way, textbooks so they immediately bring their culture here to uh, they are

trying, they will burn and destroy ukrainian textbooks of ukrainian literature uh, ukrainian names, ukrainian coats of arms, everything connected with ukraine , and they bring it, which means ah, russian textbooks and they are trying to reeducate people without realizing that these people have been practicing in the ukrainian tradition for quite a long time. well, besides, they are bringing there russian cultural figures who have sunk to the level of serving this satan putin and we will see now, it means that such a person has arrived once upon a time, the good actor dmytro kharatyan said that he played in the film midshipmen forward and said that there would be an honor there would be an honor. well, he did not have the honor, so he now came to ukraine, so to speak as a messenger of the russian peace, it’s not my relationship to the fate of my parents

, and since the fate and the family are united, as it is sung in the song from the film midshipmen, there were no soms for me. it turned out that exactly on the day of the medical worker, this day is celebrated all over russia, this is a holiday because of course these people are perhaps the most humane profession that gives people life. so wait, apples, pears, weak bread, fog over the river and good, in the tv series, there were such words that, well, you don’t have to worry about fate, there is god, and here we have enemies. there would be honor. there would be honor. well, they don’t have honor. its

political manifestation is the decline of an empire that has existed for hundreds of hundreds of years and is this the last possible attempt of this empire to survive at the expense of taking over ukraine and what are the signs for you that they will not succeed well, first of all, what are they? they have already died they have been rotting for quite a long time and they stink. yes, at the same time, uh, hmm , and what they dig for this soviet rhetoric , tactics, they rehabilitate stalin, deny the holodomor, tell these great people. yes, it’s just like that, i don’t know, in the organization, it’s a pipe bag, they grab for something that people still understand well, how can you say that stupid people have this desire, or rather, unwillingness to make decisions, that's why, for example, it's convenient to be slaves, because everything was decided for you, and it's already possible.

when you look at all these kharifians and the knee of the market, you want to quote a native meme, my god, what is finished, yes, because this is really about them all , now we are stupidly finished, these people, they are dinner parties. i was drowning in this roadless road. yes, there is no electricity there, it’s the same as now. they come to our villages and say, oh, we live here a lot. yes, you have asphalt, it’s shorter, and there is electricity, and that’s already too. grandma wanted it, she says. but she doesn’t. well, we’ve been doing such things since childhood. and they they're banging and they're kind of blaming themselves , first of all, their government, which they elected there and to which they went to pray and want to destroy what 's nearby, you know. well, it's like that. it's like the purpose of a beard . to say that she buys things there, yes, this is about the same thing, the russians see into our lives , it is inaccessible to them. so we are fascists, there are nazis , and there is something even shorter, and i really don’t know if

this empire will disappear, i don’t know who will continue it lead because there is nothing good for us here they are all over there. love and liberal russian, if you dig and ask if you will give him to crimea, he will start scratching his turnip and think that now it is something else, he will say that he had the first question crimea is not a sandwich give me a sandwich that's exactly what i say on television, i say ukrainians there don't particularly lick at any opposition. here we are. stop pushing us some airs with good russian ones. what a milestone she is sitting, she is stupidly working out her mud , she said the word navalny blinky three times and she kicked him well, in short, i don’t say the word zelenskyy that much, and although it is much more relevant there, i just measure the average temperature in the chamber and say that we ukrainians are far from elevating anyone to icons, and we have a strong civil society and, well, people who perform representative functions, they just now have to

go into the syndrome and the meaning of who is fighting in this war. we all have a lot of questions that we will ask after the war . i don’t know what happens to russia, but i don’t care what happens to ukraine, and we all need a strong ukraine, if it has to be due to the disappearance of the land, the difference is fine here , too, in the tomogram. embassy in the staff of the ministry of foreign affairs, so i will ask you. please tell me your assessment of the work of the current ukrainian authorities. well, we are not saying anything bad about the president, even by the way, we called express, which is now switched off from it is not known what decisions the t2 network made, but we support the supreme commander, but for what? if we talk about the government, about the government in general, and how do you evaluate its communication work, first of all? well,

maybe to the west, because i understand that here in ukraine we have you a communication with the government maybe it is not for you, it is not relevant every day. yes, but the communication to the western audience is of a high quality and adequate, and how would you evaluate, in principle, at this time of war, the work of the diplomatic authorities? the communication of our ministry of foreign affairs is so wobbly, the right person who now heads the ministry is zelensky 's speeches, they are also very simple and they are so uncompromisingly direct. that's why he has very good speechwriters. so if they listen to us, i say hello to them because it's going well, yes, maybe a little, well, they are angry with the french, what is a little too much like that? well, they are unfriendly, but i think now, after macron's visit, something must change, for sure

, because they are unfriendly, absolutely deserved, yes, about this one pro- there is no need to humiliate russia about the reverse peoples about the genocide, that's why i say again that look , it's not about a person there, for example , volodymyr zelenskyi, when he reacts sharply, it's about leadership, so who is now in a very traumatized state , who is now in a very traumatized state evil because here they beat us, prepare our children, torture them there, and that's why there are such things, but in general , it seems to me that it's good how they communicate, kuleba, he's absolutely professional , he's dynamic, yes, that is, zelenskyi's speechwriter well, zelenskyi is an actor. he plays so well on camera, i can’t at the moment what comes out, it comes out well, well, they are loved, they are liked. well , here it is, as far as internal things are concerned, i am shocked , of course, by these news that come from soldiers who say that it is a horror, such bureaucracy at the level i don't know there