you yourself, for sure, because it is hostile, it is absolutely deserved , so about this incident, you did not do that, and humiliating russia about me, again, it is not about a person there, for example, volodymyr zelenskyi, when he reacts sharply, it is about uh leadership and so, who is now in a very traumatized state, so what i am very angry right now because our children are being raped here, that is why they are torturing us, and that is why there are some such things, but i am not in general. it seems to me that the way they communicate is good. zelensky is a good actor. he plays so well on camera. i can’t stand what comes out now. it turns out well. well, they are loved, they are liked like that. that is, it is important for us. as for internal matters, i am shocked, of course, by the news that comes from the soldiers who say that it is such a horror. the bureaucracy is at the level there, i don’t know what kind of officials these are, this

is the ministry of defense, when people have to run, well , that is, it’s not the soldier who should run for weapons, but the weapons for the soldiers, for pieces of paper, for food, that is, a lot of everything goes on, what’s the point a lot of things are missing, and at the same time, i don’t quite understand all the donations that even the civil society makes there, they say whether to sell the official ones, it is lost, yes. that is, well , anyway, there are some bars that are unscrupulous . and here, too, i i don't know if there is a way to track it now, but when i see some people there in lviv who were caught stealing a humanitarian aid , what is this, or is there, for example, a tereotiroo somewhere in the lviv region that is super armed to the teeth? it is like this people, come to your senses, yes, this is what i want to say and to treat this in a more adequate way, because what is being done at the front is very scary

. the horrors that are happening in ukraine well, let's say in mariupol it's just an apocalypse but it's the same apocalypse it's just a little on a smaller scale , it was in irpen, in buch, in gostomel, in a man in bohdanivka, there in kharkiv oblast, chernihiv oblast, in sumyshchyna, when they just killed people for nothing, you were just riding a bicycle. and they took you and shot you there with an armored personnel carrier or just like that. you were standing and, uh, they tied your hands behind you with something and shot you in the back of the head. there is an understanding in europe today, it is towards france, in particular, that this is a war, and the scale of the destruction of people is half-sized or comparable to the second world war, and that this is now actually happening in the center of europe, and what is the reaction of france to this, or is it possible that they do not want to civilians are like that there well, maybe it's not true, or maybe you made it up , maybe it's some kind of special operation, or maybe you p-

a little bit, so to speak, thickened the paint, well, that is, i don't want to believe that it's so scary, i understood eh well, nobody wants to believe that it's so scary, that's why this story should be extracted from the statistics. that's what i said when they said that 400 people were found in bucha, and the rest were found in mass graves. we need to take and tell the story of who this woman was. do you remember the hand with the manicure? and by the way, e tilyki was just on m-m on that one moment and they contacted her daughter, who, no, not her daughter, but who appeared from a manicure, who recognized this woman by the manicure and identified her. it is somewhere and we are with them. this is what happens. it caused a shock. it caused a lot of grief. all of them, at least among the people i saw , but it is clear what defines the morons, the marginals, for example

, some valya is relevant. this is such an extreme right-wing newspaper that said that well, it is all a production. this is all the movement there. like, i came up with this kind of thing, it can’t be like this, it can’t be like this, it also happened, but in the majority of people, uh, they pace themselves, in the majority of people, they collect help, in the majority of people, uh, well, it seems to me, well, not in the majority, but but there is an understanding, i can’t. that is, this for the french, they are very selfish and very individualistic. they understand everything. and by the way, those who return from ukraine - i don't know the special forces there, they completely change their rhetoric . the very understanding appears in people who have been to ukraine at least once and who saw all this with their own eyes, who were there or were in irpen, and it is very, well, it is very useful to actually bring people and i am very glad that he was a mahront and he - mine also changed a little bit after all this samsung galaxy

of the french bf-fm tv channel, i don’t know if you were there on the internet of this tv channel, maybe you were like that. he died in luhansk region, well, the accident was because a fragment pierced the armor of the national guardsman who was next to him there is a bulletproof vest as a whole or in a fairy tale a he was all over the neck. he died. and this death. well , this. well, it's just indicative, because he's a frenchman, she had some kind of influence, and again, how much do the french now understand that the fact that people die in ukraine means that they don't die in france in germany, do they understand that putin is a

monster who now has no boundaries and no moral precautions for himself and if he is now in ukraine, it is only because he is being restrained here and he could already be somewhere there conditionally speaking in on the border between germany and france or they think no, putin doesn't like it here. they think he doesn't have it. well, it depends on who they understand. there can be five experts on the site and all five experts will talk about something of their own. if someone reads french, it's too cold , he's on twitter, he said to the masses from the very beginning, we're already in a whole war in europe, war, open your eyes, see what's going on, help ukraine as soon as possible, stop this war, finish it, win, otherwise we'll all be there, and there are those who say well, when i say, for example, that we cannot allow them to take away our uh, our east there, for example, because it will be because it will be a base only for them, they

will prepare and advance further, and the expert says, well, we are used to it, the ukrainians scare us with this, but putin has no means, but they already have almost no weapons, but they already have almost no people. they will not advance anywhere further. and this is such a stupid appeasement, it is also counterproductive. then there are others who say: stop underestimating the enemy, damn the air, i don’t know if china is there or not. still there someone someone something somewhere someone whatever comes to mind in short and there are many, many such thoughts but returning to your question about frederik so who died i was just on the same day when he died at the bfm a-a and i expressed my own gratitude to everyone to these reporters who are not afraid and who do their job. yes, and who they are , no one sends them there very often, they are always voluntary. by the way, the choice is also thanks to them. it is clear that we ukrainians do not abuse stains so that they think that i have. officially communication from ukrainian on the other hand, for example, they don’t even believe our numbers

when we announce the number of dead russians, they have some of their own data, which is usually half as much as ours, but what was obvious from the case with this journalist was that russia doesn’t care whether it’s the holocausts or the press. they just take it and destroy it, that is, there are no decrees for them. that is, it is the military, and it was very often sounded in connection with the death of frederick so journalist or fm that russia is committing war crimes very easily, what should our rhetoric be, so let's not to leave these crimes unpunished, or putin is under the illusion that the more he does, the more he creates new horrors, the more he is feared and the less he is punished, it shouldn't be like this, that's why our lawyers are great, they work with international groups to document such crimes wars are sent, lawsuits are filed, this is all very important, this is all a huge class of work in the legal field

. just overwhelms anger. although it overwhelms us, it is important that all these things be recognized, that they go through the justice system, that justice be established, and that russia should also pay reparations with knowledge. simply, well, in short, this is the way it is. that ’s all, we all know it, there is no sense, wait a minute time i would ask, you know, they say when the second world war ended, then people somehow came to life , fashion came to life, comedy danced. well, you know, life is beautiful, because people are tired of the grayness, dirt, death , fear, and now, too. we live in this stress and in ukraine, well, and i think that no one outside of ukraine sympathizes in any way. they

still live in all this. well, it seems that after the war, people still enter something beautiful. in any book, we would write literally 30 seconds, but for you to write to people to restore them after the war oh, i think that i will definitely be a very big boom for all kinds of bright dresses and all kinds of bright things and i think that i have already started by the way, to write a book about love during the war but after the war i will write something else very stupid for example and what about this our exes think that this is something completely entertaining that will go after the book about marriage just so that people can relax and read it and victory will come precisely because we have a lot of life force in ukrainians, this is our human freedom for this interview iryna karpa writer with paris from france was in touch with them because you already have a good day. this was a program of the outlook of vasyl zima. i will meet with you at 19:15. be with espresso . follow the news stories of this day and

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comment like this more people will see us deputies approved the tariff moratorium, they promise to freeze the increase in utility bills at least until the end of this year, in addition, consumers will be prohibited from demanding settlement of utility debts this was reported by a member of the tax finance committee and customs policy yaroslav zhelezniak drafted the bill in the first reading so far in general during the martial law and within six months after its cancellation it will be prohibited increase the cost of gas delivery and valuable heating charge more for hot water and gas such a legislative initiative such a legislative initiative will cost us uah 264 billion of the budget the leaders of the european union will consider how to introduce sanctions on russian gold such information appeared after switzerland for the

first time after a full-scale invasion of ukraine , the aggressors bought 3 tons of yellow metal from the aggressor countries, this was reported by the analyst of the bloomberg agency, most international companies have already refused to cooperate with the kremlin after gold trading was banned by the london stock exchange, i would like to remind you that this is the main platform for gold sales in the world, experts note that the leaders of the european union are discussing a complete ban on the purchase of enemy metal already during june 23-24 right here, and the traditional porserdach. we will communicate immediately with two experts, associate experts of case ukraine analytical center yevgeny dubagrez and financial analyst of isu invest group mykhailo demkiv greetings, dear experts greetings, let's start with the hot news about the return duties and taxes on imported cars, in particular, we are

talking about transport for personal use, collection by brothers from buyers since july 1, the deputies made such a decision literally yesterday, they say that the budget lost almost uah 13 billion due to such benefits, they were canceled how are you, mr. yevgeny, let's start with you. well, if we take vat and return it to importers, this is a very right step, because it was canceled at first, because there were general fears that we would not produce anything, now the business situation is better it makes a lot of sense for us to return vat there again in order to be at least on equal terms with our producers and foreign ones, because somehow it is not very right. and when vat is collected from ours, that is, the consumer pays more for ukrainian goods . - first of all, we are going to integrate into the eu, we

have to on the contrary, it seems to me that we should pay more attention to reducing these customs barriers, especially since our partners are canceling these customs barriers, so it seems to me that the deputies cared more about income budget rather than economic equality, and well, this is a debatable issue, i will simply add and add mr. yevgeny that minister of finance serhii marchenko spoke at a meeting of the european business association yesterday and announced such figures that the state budget receives only 30% of customs and 70% of tax revenues, if compared with dates before russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine. mykhailo. and what do you think about the return of duties and taxes on our border? in fact, the council returned those

taxes and duties that existed on the morning of february 24. and in principle, it seems to me that with regard to at least the return of vat, there was a consensus in the authorities, both in infin and the national bank, that these taxes should be returned in order not to distort competition on the market, which in principle exists even despite the war, well, in principle, it does not look like a strange situation when ukraine is asking for a lot of funds abroad, at the same time it allows imports to enter the country without paying vat, but the full return did not happen somewhere, the deputies corrected, in particular , they gave the opportunity to the cabinet of ministers to introduce duty in a mirror in relation to our partners, i.e. if the eu imposed on the products of ukrainian export

e-e we canceled it for a year, then, in principle , cabs can do this now, and in addition, e-e, what has changed, the benefits remain for e-e electric cars for all the rest of the cars, they were canceled. i would like to add that they also left a loophole, or on the contrary, they created it. these are benefits for industrial parks, and earlier economists criticized such an idea as some kind of special customs zones for industrial parks, since it can be used with with the purpose of corruption, something may have changed during the war, it is already such an effective tool for developing the ukrainian economy, mr. mykhailo well, actually, it is strange that in one day the cleaning of benefits and their language establishment, but industrial parks are, as it were, from the past life most of the bills on this topics were adopted in the 21st year and there was

essentially a tail of the second reading on this most basic issue of taxes, there are a lot of fears that this will be a corruption story because the creation of benefits for certain certain business categories, well, it destroys the competition a little bit, on the other hand, on the other hand, there is a need, there was a need, and last year, there was a need to start the economy, give her an answer . relocation in order to avoid these abuses , a lot of restrictions were written in the draft law, i.e. how should a company that receives benefits meet the criteria, or should it

invest for 10 years, not withdraw money certain types of activities there, not gambling , and even in principle the bill is too strict, allowing the regulatory authorities to ask 10 for 10 years back taxes if they discovered any abuses and in principle these things were er corrected before the second reading and already voted in more is more like this normal option. since there were fears that in principle there might not be enough people willing to meet such legal requirements for industrial facts to have any noticeable effect on the economy of ukraine, mr. yevgeny. i know that in some countries, industrial parks operate and are quite effective, for example, in south korea there are such special port zones that have special benefits for foreign investors. and is there any certainty that this will work in ukraine? look here, you can look at it from two sides.

yes, if you look at the foreign, the global the experience immediately comes to mind, other people in shanghai are in china. yes, but we have our own experience . hryvnias were withdrawn at the old exchange rate so that for our country here and now it seems to me that this is not a very successful decision. moreover, let's be honest , they do not invest in ukraine not because we have some tax restrictions in ukraine; they do not invest in ukraine because of the war because the planning horizon even after our victory will not be 10 years, so i think it would be better to plan differently and this is the arrival of foreign investors, so from your answers i understood that

industrial parks can be effective tools, but for this there must be some the rule of law, the independence of the courts, etc., the absence of corruption. i hope that we will have all this and then it will work properly, and i propose to move on to another topic, to the topic of combating unemployment. we know that during the war the number of unemployed increased, at the same time the government confirmed that officially registered the unemployed who have not been employed for 30 days will be involved in socially useful works, that is, in my opinion, this is a reduction in support during the war, at the same time the government is launching a program, there is work within the framework of which the state will provide grants in the amount of up to 250,000 uah for starting a new business, that this is an attempt to somehow change the very system of support for the unemployed, to direct their

efforts more towards creating a new business. that's what the prime minister said that a month of unemployment followed by socially useful work, then it looks like treason, because the only consequence of such an action is that people stop registering as unemployed, but if you look at complex yes, if along with this there are grants of 250,000 and 2.5 million opportunities to take another loan under the available program 579, then it already looks more or less adequate, that is, if a business is created first, if people want to work, then they will have much more opportunities and entrepreneurs will are interested in hiring employees, employees will be interested in finding a job faster, but here the question is that first of all, it is really necessary to register a new business there and give guarantees, and only then punish, let's make them use their own words unemployed because they are looking for a job for a long time,

mr. mykhailo, is it possible to make an entrepreneur out of an unemployed person, for example, an engineer or a teacher, give him a 250,000 uah soft loan and say, please, open my own business, or this money alone is not enough for this, after all, definitely just money for this there is not enough fat. here, the logic is quite simple. if a person has lost his job and applies for benefits, then there is an offer for him, well, in this case, from the government, socially useful works it's true for me. it's hard to imagine how almost 300,000 people can, from the point of view of the bureaucrats of the organization, be involved in the construction of agricultural works - this is a list of those activities in which a

person can be involved, but the logic is that in time the war is either doing this job or you are not unemployed from the point of view of the country, and in principle this will be an interesting case for economists to study how politics affects the behavior of people, in principle, we see, we saw the previous few years movement in the other direction in side of the basic income, when the state regardless of whether you work, you don't work what are you busy with, it pays you a certain certain amount of income and, in principle, it is considered that this is not all a positive effect for society in general, here the reversal is a completely different side, the exercise side and if you do not work, you you will not receive any income, and let's see how economists actually do. i wonder what the consequences will be. will people simply refuse these payments and will make it easier for the ministry

of finance to spend a little bit, or will it really force them to do so? politics, change your activity, go to social work or go do something else , i.e. what kind of month are scary scary people p. mykhaila , they actually put experiments on people of course it’s a bit of a joke, but about basic income i saw a beautiful graffiti in lviv where it was written poverty the way out is basic under crossed out and it was written to find a job, that's why here such two approaches do not collide, such a left and right liberal and such a socialist more and let's discuss the last question for today, e.g. ukrainian banks i know that you are very deep in this topic, so there is such a message: ukrainian banks in the territories where hostilities were conducted or which were temporarily occupied lost about 470 million hryvnias or 0.6 of all cash in banks, but not during the

invasion of a u on the eve of the invasion, were the cash registers robbed, or did bank employees decide to earn a little under the hood, and why did 470 million hryvnias disappear, perhaps it is worth clarifying, mykhailo, let's continue your crimes, the amount seems to be a lot of half a billion hryvnias in such a difficult time of losses for of ukraine, but i would compare it with the previous invasion in the 14th year, when ukrainian banks lost much more, despite the fact that the occupied territory turned out to be less than what we are now talking about from kyiv and about the mykolayiv oblast , where are the russians in at some point they came, and in the 14th year, let me remind you, the national bank lost at some

point on the territory of the autonomous republic of crimea, about four billion hryvnias, which, in principle , at the scale of the economy at that time, was in hryvnias and a much, much larger amount, i.e. now we are now following the conclusions, the exhibitions have been done correctly, and the russians are already taking them away and sometimes they even rob the stores, they take pennies, we are already ready for this, mr. yevgeny, i understand that not only have we lost cash, but we have also lost collateral property, we have lost the opportunity to take this property on loans. in general, the losses of our banking system due to the occupation, has anyone calculated these numbers, the national bank announced a very good figure that about 20% of all loans to working people will be non-working due to this full-scale aggression, this is normal

it looks like a lot. but i believe that this is a very optimistic estimate and god forbid that this is 20%. and these were all the losses of the banks, because 20% is what the banking system is at the end of and this process is the same as he said yesterday, that's why everything looks proportional, the party is proportional to the lost territories . to you for such an interesting conversation this morning, and let me remind you that we had experts yevhen dubagres from the analytical center case ukraine and mykhailo demkiv from the icu investment group and i have two more news for you from russia. the state duma of russia has passed a bill that legalizes the so -called parallel import. this mechanism will allow

goods to be imported into russia without the consent of the right holders. to ukraine , the aggressor, cosmetics, paper, clothes, household appliances , cars, game consoles, engines, let me remind you that due to international sanctions, the enemy market has already left more than a thousand well-known companies to replace imports with their own goods, the kremlin is not able. well, the russians will have to pay more for sim cards. as it turned out, due to the sanctions, their production has tripled in price. and now the russians have to pay 50 rubles just for the plastic. this is about uah 25 today at the official exchange rate . the cards were generally free for the russians , that is, they cost so much that the mobile operators did not take money for them at all, the most mobile operators of the aggressor countries already include the cost of seven cards in the contract for customers more the cost will continue to increase due to supply complications and shortage of materials, the price of plastic in

russia will increase on this today, all the news of the economy during the war continues tomorrow, thursday, and on weekdays, watch us on the tv channel espresso i - andriy yanitsky, together with you, our viewers, we will win the voices of america, time there, i am yuliya yarmolenko, i congratulate the institution, there could be no other choice than to support ukraine and oppose putin's brutality , us president joe biden said on wednesday, even though it affected the well-being of americans precisely from america is connected with the russian war against ukraine