did not work live on the espresso tv channel at 14:29 on june 23 khrystyna yatskivtsiv and our next online group, now we will talk about the kherson region volodymyr molchanov, a political scientist from the city of kherson, who is currently in the territory controlled by ukraine, mr. volodymyr, we congratulate you glory to ukraine and greetings to the heroes glory yesterday yesterday in kherson region, well, they just abounded er, i don’t know the publications of many ukrainians, it’s just that er, from the fact that two politicians launched the information that partly the armed forces of ukraine are already little by little even they come to kherson, well, this led to a certain reaction. ghana, the painter, in particular, said that it was not responsible and let's not say anything now that could interfere with the operation carried out by the armed forces of ukraine in the kherson region. the informational entry was believed by many people, but

what about us ? we can harm, well, relatively speaking well, it is clear that disinformation is bad, but the enemy already knows that, that is, if our troops were released, well, first of all, forgive me, the enemy who was knocked out of this or that settlement already knows about it. so, mr. volodymyr that it was a slander and what is the current situation in kherson oblast and in kherson. well, of course, the reaction of the people of kherson was, you can imagine what it was, from simple negativity to such explosive indignation. we can have a little more, even this is already observed in our competitions among military experts, you know , our propagandists, who will take more territory, who will free from the villages, who will be closer to kherson

, up to 15 to 10 km. so, the truth is that the enemy is really a few days ago, i left the village of kislevka, which is a key point on the road to kherson, but which is located between other villages, which from the flanks give the opportunity to attack this kislevka and the intersection of roads around it. well, the road. actually , from mykolaiv to kherson, which passes by her, and it was most likely a trap and it is very good that they did not lead to her, but mr. arestovych ate well, and then lavrik is already an arrestee, probably several politicians of such a second echelon of former deputies were jealous of them eh 2:2 former one deputy the acting deputy who began to post actively about the fact that they had already entered kherson, that is, it was bound to

happen sooner or later, you know, i joked about this topic yesterday, hmm, sadly, he joked that if we don't stop this napoleon now, then tomorrow he will... will already land in kerch from the hyperloop and will probably capture all the occupants volodymyr, you mentioned that it could be an enemy trap, please describe this dangerous scenario, what was this trap, if you look at the map of military operations, then... e the last line of possible defense for the enemy in front of kherson, the natural border is the klapaivka stream between kiselyvka and kherson. and chornobayvka actually has the village of klapaya, a stream from which it goes from the northeast to the southwest and flows into the dnieper strait, more precisely, into the white lake near the

dnieper strait in the area of ​​the village of bilozerka. so the enemy was sweeping retreat there to this beam so that the armed forces of ukraine came up and occupied er this territory, that is, it also occupied this border to the beam itself, from where you can actually reach 10 km to kherson, from there you can shell positions, in particular, and shell artillery, for example, bridges. that is, it is very profitable there was a position, if not only one, but that on one side the village of soldier pravdina is occupied by the enemy, and there are fortified positions there, artillery shelling mykolaiv, for example, from there, on the other side, there is a force even up to snowurivka, mykolaiv region, which are also occupied by the enemy, and there are also fortified positions there from two sides. it was like this, you know . crossfire and a trap for those e-e columns that were going in the direction of kiselyovka. ours did not go into

kiselyovka itself, but they approached kiselyovka. when the first people started saying that it was 15 km to kherson from there it is 15.3 km to the border of kherson from the intersection near the kyselivka, but they said it was a raid - rather, the group, that is, they looked that in the kyselivka itself, there is an er - a hill war stands and, by the way, is also fortified, and they turned around and went back to the pokrovske position, that is, no way. now there were no such significant advances ; moreover, the area of ​​the bridgehead on the ingulka occupied from the other direction of naberyslav even decreased in the last week. although, fortunately, it was still possible to save it, and all the eyes. now you know the winning throws. well, i i do not know maybe this is some special operation of the armed forces, about which no one says that it is to misinform the enemy, but the enemy

openly laughs at it. i know it, please, mr. volodymyr, hmm, in recent days there was information about the explosion of some cars in the kherson region, but we are talking about the collaborator turulov, who blew up allegedly in chernobaivka for a long time it was unclear and what happened to people's deputy kovalev, who is in the kherson region, but the main intelligence department confirms the explosion of his car, is there any information about what happened to these people, in particular regarding turlov, the occupiers write that he was slightly wounded, er, he forged any details, and they do not indicate er, that the car was blown up, this is more or less a reliable fact. but whether he was in that car or not, it is not known if he was, er, it seems on the fact that it was not an explosive device that was planted in the

car by something from the outside, e-e, as for that, it is not known, he has not appeared in any public place so far, and it is not known whether he is really injured, as for kovalev, he simply disappeared, nothing is known about him e- e in the photo there is his car eh that he is his, it is known quite clearly. because he himself was his before that. well, let's just say that he was showing off that he drives such a cheap car, a lanos, despite his wealth, they say, because of taurus , it happened that he would not issue and bought this car somewhere in his hands already in the occupied territory, because his main car was installed, yes, that is, he is unknown yet, but the ecological space was not climbed by you. as you can see, it looks like an imitation there on this car. it seems that this is the name of the settlement in question, they say that it is about

that he was pulled out of the car, and then the car was blown up, where are the man's sanctions, because it may be related to his functionality, that is, what kind of functionality do you think, kovalev, if they , so to speak, agreed to accept it on the one hand, and on the other hand, well, maybe he was engaged in some kind of business that he also has relevant competitors among collaborative environments, of course, first of all, he was known in rather narrow circles as a converter, as a tax optimizer and was not even known to those who know him about the fact that he has an agricultural business, that is, he is, let's say, not advertising, he bought it in the same way as most businessmen buy land plots, that is, they transfer the inheritance to them, if you look

at the declarations, then some such well-known people of kherson from the region that they have several plots of land, they inherit each year er according to their declarations, but well, it is clear to everyone that before the land market began to work, they thus formalized shadow property er in there was nothing like that in kovalev's declarations, but it seems that he does have land plots and they are available in the territory that he always believed to be controlled by a collaborator, e. he has a conflict, uh, as for kovalev, they didn’t have an open conflict with him either, but the co-election of kovalev was against the will of the pain, so to speak, although the people are not actually in that territory, he is not

subordinate, he is not so, you know , information-dependent, a distraction, but still, business flows are a pain, i thought that he also controls money flows in this territory, this is about the south west of the kherson region volodymyrivna well, we have little time left and i cannot help but ask the last appeals residents of the kherson region went to kherson by all available routes from kherson, even if through the crimea. and tell me, did the population respond to these appeals, the majority of kherson residents are simply not financially capable of this right now , even to the crimea, not to mention going to crimea is meaningless, it is the same as being deported, to be deported to the russian federation, you have to go further to georgia, at least from russia to finland, e.e., no one has the funds for this, moreover, they are very afraid of e.e., increased control by the fsb in the territory controlled by russia for a long time, that is,

in crimea or on the territory of russia itself, in contrast to kherson oblast, where the occupiers are forced to spend most of their resources on suppressing active resistance and searching for more or less active anti-russian elements, then in crimea they have nothing it will not interfere with those who want to come and they do it based on the testimony of those who have already left, they spend the whole day to do it carefully in compliance with some information technologies, that is, they use it from mobile phones, first of all, from surnames from similar surnames , for example, they search there uh, other accounts are possible uh, that is, you announce everything, as they call it, at the convenience of a person. thank you, mr. volodymyr, it is very nice to work with you. volodymyr molchanov

, a political scientist from kherson, worked live the espresso tv channel made a short remark, but the people's deputy from the kherson region asked the people's deputy to ask the treasury how things are really going with the budget expenses. mr. kolykhaev in the city council, who remains the mayor of kherson, it turned out that during the period of the full-scale invasion, two and one billion hryvnias were spent in total the budget of kherson is three and one there with a small billion, well, how can you spend two-thirds of the annual budget of the city in four months, in fact, when the city is under occupation, this is also very true interesting questions, especially since all this time it is with great difficulty for public officials to pump out water and something from the local kherson authorities . as they say, we hope they will draw conclusions , and today we will remind you that the lychakiv reis-court is holding a preliminary

hearing. the accusation of people's deputy viktor medvedchuk for treason and the castle for the looting of national values, we will continue to talk about it a little later. glory to the good heroes of the day, the institute for the study of war suggests that the russian occupiers may seize the city of lysychansk in the coming days, the occupiers are advancing in the area of ​​lysychansk and the golden process, our native ukrainian general staff reports what the current situation is. once again, as of today's second, i cannot answer that we are dealing with these tasks presented by the leadership of the brigade and that it was known in the morning that the enemy would advance from the side of

engineering valley or tickling on vovcha yarik will also try to reach the borders of lysychansk. that's me. lysychansk is in the middle of our country, where it is high, so i am sure that it will be even more difficult to occupy it, or we are the city of severodonetsk , etc., from the very beginning, from the first days of the war lysychanska has been shelled and lately it has been very chaotic and what worked with the e-e is working and the aviation is working artillery of various calibers and the actual shelling e-e and plus to all that from the side and i will repeat once again from the side of the golden mountain as already you said yes, the enemy has an advantage, the enemy has an advantage in weapons and human resources, so russia will try to approach lysychansk and

continue to destroy it, while yuverodonetsk continues accordingly severodonetsk today is again not fully occupied muscovites, so we are holding the defense, we are holding the defense , i understood that they will not break through to lysychansk from north donetsk, but from a more southerly direction. given in fact no, they found it because you see , muscovites are also learning and trying different things, they are looking for different directions, they tried there, they got the devil there, they were defeated, and then they broke through the defenses and came out on this threat of the environment. everyone will ask you about the situation

in vyrodonetsk. yes, the situation, as they say, is extremely difficult, but please be kind, and you know the real war. we liberated severodonetsk on july 22, 2014, and this is what the government there was like when they said what needs to be done to prepare for war and everything else, they continued those regionals damned communists and now we are starting what is and what really the boys are defending in some streets they have our results there where the russians are clapping so how is the defense of the city of severodonetsk going well what about severodonetsk broken, you know well, in fact, it’s scary that he almost completely broke it, that’s why we heard similar things about volnovakha with

khrestina, we asked one of our experts, he says, well, sorry, there is no city of volnovakha, that is, we ourselves we can only imagine the state severodonetsk is in, but the key question is whether it is worth holding this position now under the threat of an encirclement, or are there prospects of preventing an encirclement, or is it possible, according to your military logic, that it would be better to take our fighters, i don’t know, 10 km in one direction or another, look at me an ordinary officer of the armed forces of ukraine, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a headquarters that makes decisions and they have a vision, for example, there was a decision almost a month ago. well, we see that severodonetsk is defending itself from severodonetsk surrenders to the armed forces are kept. so it

is still the leadership of the armed forces of ukraine and they decide how to proceed. and you know, as a citizen there, as a luhansk citizen, yes, how i would not like it to be occupied. we are doing what the territorial defense unit of the luhansk region is the only unit in this ukraine that has been fighting since the first to this day, the only one because we are the territorial defense and currently carry out tasks on the combat readiness of our units, the guys are leaving, the guys are coming in, mr. serhiy, yesterday, volodymyr nazarenko, the freedom legion , the national guard of ukraine, on the air of the great telethon , noticed the only news, and that's why i think we can talk about it frankly, as well, that there is a big question for the general, the generals .

questions to the top military leadership of our country to the diligent general staff in general, but let's just say that the performers of this very dirty, cruel, bloody work on the ground do not understand everything. what do you to this they said, well, you know, i will briefly say that do not interfere with the armed forces in fulfilling their tasks of protecting ukraine, and when the armed forces turn and say that they need help in communication , in particular the armed forces should not have political decisions in which no one should come here to give orders.

they are first of all competent in military matters, uh, the security situation, mr. serhiu, is primarily about art systems, heavy mortar systems, barrel artillery. so we understand that this is not a secret for the enemy, because they feel it on their skins, so to speak, when it flies, our answer is the feeling that we have strengthened in that regard. look, if we get a place in the last three weeks, in the last three weeks we will get the city of severodonetsk . artillery systems that entered europe from the u.s. that entered europe from america and we can maintain only seven systems plus all of muscovites have short logistics if we take lysychansk from pervomaisk and lysychansk in a straight line 35 km

pervomaisk they have warehouses, logistics is short for you dalysychansk delivering logistics is terrible, that is why they currently have an advantage both in the personal composition of people and in artillery systems, and exactly the same they have in the same combat kits, because to fail there, for example for 30x40 kilometers there, the same artillery systems, or to reduce this distance by 100 or more main ones, with operational efficiency. i am sure that we will drive the muscovites from luhansk oblast further. what we have is the scariest thing when i hear that we didn't prepare for something there well, but now the main thing, despite the fact that

someone was not ready for something, is to make sure that our troops give a decent break-off and the issue of evacuating prisoners, that is, there is an opportunity, it's normal take out three hundred. and you can still there, for example, from our territorial defense, guys came who didn’t even serve in the army, who were given weapons and who went to fight. now you’ve seen these guys are the ones who leave . warriors or those with burning eyes ready to defend ukraine again.

hold on, luhansk region. thank you, serhiy shakun, an officer of the regional territorial defense from luhansk region, was in touch with us. and we remind you that the events taking place between russia and lithuania are quite interesting and, in my opinion, sensitive, in particular, because lithuania is following the lozyak sanctions which were agreed upon and implemented, and against the russian federation, it still blocks in particular these goods that are subject to sanctions. and the russian federation does not like this very clearly, which indicates that the answer will be, uh, not only a diplomatic one, which has in mind how lithuania is preparing for this with us on the communication manta from the pavilion from the lithuanian diplomat , the head of the committee on international affairs of the seimas of lithuania and, in addition, recently the head of the bilateral lithuanian-ukrainian assembly, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to lithuania eh, we are glad to see you on the air

of the tv channel espresso, well, the key question is, who can the russians invest in their non-symmetrical zone, the symmetrical answer is lithuanian, even though we understand that this was not the official decision of vilnius, lithuania is implementing the decision of the european commission because lithuania is a member of the european union, but the impression that patroshev and the company decided would greatly complicate the situation. well, also, buy and said, yes , everything is, but we are also members of nato, and yesterday, there was a very clear statement. this state is the department of america, which reminded russia that an attack on one country

means an attack on all of us, and that solidarity and other countries should follow. will be implemented if russia is thinking about any more serious threats but a according to all the other articles, of course, they can do everything, and they just do it every day, and cyberreotic attacks and information attacks, but i would notice that lithuania is one of the most independent states that cut itself off from itself, and this is russian gaza , and oil and electricity, and all these threats to russia are not only

flattening us, but also helping us to achieve these goals that we are not. now, the president is already a coup himself to the european union, which will be a very serious decision on ukraine adopted we even worked very hard so that this decision would be based on the candidacy, but after a week everything will be the nato summit, we are also pursuing very serious decisions and strengthening the security of political countries, they see what russia is doing with ukraine and with such threats, the kremlin is helping us, well, on the other hand the masters were hunted, we know people with a historical type of thinking, yes, they created a lot of war criminals in the 20th century. the crimean corridor is a war crime that we

now see, and even in hitler’s time, the bogdantsev corridor and now there will be a question of the suvalok corridor, according to my unofficial information, the main thing. and that is, they actually do not sound scary, they regret it and we understand that this is not only a lithuanian and security issue . vopros how are you now trying to solve the real training, of course, you shouldn't reveal all the secrets, but we understand that there are satellites, and the russians, we solve this, too, with poland and germany and america, you know, the germans these are the

most important forces in lithuania, and we agreed with them, again, to putin , what are they? eh, we are talking with the americans, eh, so that they, eh, not only, eh, came to us personally, but that eh, they were here, eh always and y-y as if permanent or by assistant presents and that they are here er-er twice or ot oh or our presence in lithuania we also work on air er-er defense so

what er-er is what russia does er-er in ukraine, we are studying every step and learning, and so, as it has produced, russia has made an impression on sweden, finland, which becomes a member of nato, just as denmark becomes a member of the defense cooperation european union, and the baltic countries learn and become armed. because we know that very well mr. pavy , there is an understanding of how much is protected and it is now kievansburg , yes. there we agreed that they can

move to neighboring countries, so what can you talk about, yes, they have serious weapons, they do not have nuclear weapons, they do not have drones, they have special forces, you are е savings in 20 hours and in poland and in lithuania we see this all the time eh we see every eh every step of the russian soldiers in kaliningrad eh, if they think about it, eh, to the side, there, thank you very much , mr. chairman. well, i would like to remind you