should have separate military special forces there, in particular with 15, say they need to be narrowly specialized er er 15 is now participating in the war, but it is an anti-terrorist unit that is precisely er specifically trained to fight terrorism transport facilities buildings it has there are a lot of ways he can er, let's say, release the hostages, yes, the war has shown that now they have taken up arms and are fighting on time, as well as military development, many are doing this, but i myself came when i had one suspicion work and then increase it and how the quantity affects the quality, then it is better to make other units that will , for example, have the functions of some military alpha to leave in that composition eh directly to

perform those tasks eh which there are and quantities because well, she said yes that a fighter becomes a full-fledged fighter after 5 years, i think when i arrived. what did you say? i learned to shoot quickly there, er, medicine, we know explosives, and everything i would like, yes or no . to carry out our tasks, it is necessary at least three years ago, now there is no point, we do not need to continue them, we have enough to carry out combat tasks now, mr. romane, we are very happy that we can talk with you not only specifically about mykolaiv, but also about trends in the south in general of our country, and especially the attention is now focused on the snake island. as the operational command of the south says, the special operation to destroy enemy forces and means of the enemy, which he managed to accumulate there, is continuing.

this is important. well, because it is a tension for the entire ukrainian cock, and i think not only in perspective, is there an understanding of what exactly is happening there from what can be said publicly? this is a change. if we talk about it as a point that we have to hold, for example, i do not consider land units right now right there at all, or try to somehow return it to, well, now to fight for it, spend a lot of resources, and for this, artillery will later be needed for this, missiles they didn’t destroy it. it didn’t install radars there and didn’t give them the opportunity to not give them the opportunity to set up there. let’s say some means that can

hit ships there, and all this can be done by aviation , artillery, and specifically the harpoon and neptune, and keep it under control remotely as he is grasping for him from the point of view of soldiers or the military, well, my point of view is that the time will come and we will return him , er, we will return him, because what is happening now, in principle, what i am saying is that they are trying to hit him and not give it's ok there expand there further as already er let's say that i put it all off. thank you mr. roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the parliamentary committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine, now a fighter of the armed forces of ukraine, who is actively fighting in the south of our country, and we join of our telethon mykola malomuzhov, ukrainian

military man, former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine, general of the army of ukraine, adviser to the president of ukraine, glory to ukraine, mr. army general, we are glad that you are working now for tv viewers to the espresso tv channel, the minister of defense told the minister of defense that the first hi-mars have arrived in ukraine. we are talking about multiple rocket launcher systems. how do you think this can change the situation now, because the situation in luhansk region is, to tell the truth , critical? i would like to add that the analysis of our defense colleague - the express of mr. zgurets, he noted that one haimers placed correctly and in the right place was enough to er... well, let's say so, to keep all maneuvers and attempts of the enemy under the sights, having, accordingly, er, a good one the supply of shells for these hames, well, today it is

extremely relevant hot spots where the russian leadership has a question about them, they must be captured in the near future, the extreme point has already been determined on june 26. this in itself, near donetsk olesychansk, operations are also being prepared in parallel, and it is clear that the use of effective systems is especially against missile systems of the russian federation and long-range artillery is very relevant why because, for example, hailstones hit at 30 km and hurricanes are already 40 and if we are already death in relation to 70 km therefore, in this situation, the hammers systems that hit also 75 80 km this is actually a flight of efforts of offensive operations in the north donetsk lysichan direction, and they are still not many, they are not young enough to have the prospect of placing at least a sectoral po for the donetsk region, but in hot spots, especially slavic

e.e. severodonetsk and velychansk direction. i think they could block especially those missile means that create a problem for us where we do not have advantages and countermeasures because of the way in which strikes are carried out today and about the pressure from the actual territory globally using hundreds of rockets for hurricanes and tornadoes, they actually clear the territory and then conduct offensive operations accordingly. now with rockets, having hundreds of thousands of them in stock, but old inaccurate ones, and precisely targeting a specific object, detecting them and reconnaissance means and drones, and it is possible to carry out point strikes with tactical intelligence on the front but this is an extremely effective weapon that will destroy entire divisions, therefore, in this situation, we will stop the offensive of the prospect by increasing the

caloricity, respectively, in such british systems that will be used to carry out special operations for the preparation of offensives, and not only in the donetsk region but also kherson, zaporizhzhia, other regions, mr. army general, well , accordingly, the belarusian direction, we understand that on the one hand, russia does indeed have certain intentions to repeat its crimes, in particular, it is about an attempt invasion from the north of our country, but on the other hand, there is information that they are carrying out an operational military game in this way, in particular, it is meant to raise the degree of tension in the north with the aim of withdrawing one or another of our combat-ready forces that should strengthen the eastern direction, for example , kharkiv donetsk region and luhansk region yes, and in particular , they would like to withdraw part of it in this way, for example, without knowing the heimers or lviv systems of a different plan, well, first of all,

the task of belarus was really our troops states near the border of belarus, but the use of divisions of the russian army from the position of belarus, as well as an airfield where they could place their aircraft to strike at ukraine, what they are doing, tightening is one of the big topics, along with the fact that belarus directly provides russia with all the means to carry out aggression against ukraine, but that we have information on lukashenko and his close entourage, they like the means, they are trying not to enter into a direct war why because in fact and the population of belarus, especially the military, which we really know and have information directly from the middle and higher level command over belarus, operational data that they are not ready to engage in combat operations and carry out any

large-scale, so to speak, actions against ukraine, and this may not only be in terms of the effectiveness of actions and their task is to defeat them, but this is actually a threat to lukashenko's regime, that's why lukashenko liked to use the bus to show putin that he is pulling out huge forces and performs an extremely important function from russia's addresses. according to the equipment of the ukrainian weapons of ukraine, which could operate in the luhansk donetsk direction or today attack in the kherson zaporozhye direction, not only that , i can directly say that lukashenka is big to putin today, and of course he will still give tasks to motivate some of his provos or offensive operations regarding the protection of, for example , the western borders of belarus - it is on the territory of our western regions of ukraine and, of course, poland

. provocative actions on the borders, but this really forces us to keep a large part of the equipment weapons, but let the inertia of the right sign because there is no point in keeping them. in connection with this, a meeting of the national security and defense council of ukraine was held regarding the situation on the border with belarus and an assessment of our capabilities to avoid the same mistakes that were made on february 24 of this year when the aggression began from the territory of belarus to talk about st. golden pervomaisk well, the story is so interesting , it actually happened on june 19, the general staff says that the ukrainian military forced the enemy to retreat in the area of ​​the toshkivka settlement, an assault took place in the directions of walnut golden and pervomaisk golden , on june 20, the situation is changing somewhat, there was a

rocket attack and it is clear that the large number of losses of our , in particular, and our artillery capacities, as of june 21, of the six necessary mortars, if we talk about history there are only two of a particular platoon left, and the military say that they cannot fight because they have run out of missiles, combat missiles from lithuania and other countries that would have been used before have run out earlier. well, in the end, if we talk about tushkivka, it is currently occupied by it. and this gives them more opportunities in the lysichan direction of north donets. the same story is actually the same with us with gold, if i am not mistaken. to withdraw, or is there a certain number of soldiers who are

now in the hands of the occupiers , they practically maneuvered with their eyes, that is, obmetically all positions in connection with the fact that there could be specific encirclements. and we really saved not only people, what is important, of course, is the prevention of special operations russia in the encirclement and then the task of the strike. it would be you and not only a military and tactical failure, but it would be a powerful moral blow to them, so you are maneuvering and you are already saving forces and equipment, of course, weapons, but in this situation i think that we really need to prepare more powerfully for such actions of the russians, not only with the use of missile forces and equipment, but also to maneuver in relation to close combat and prepare counterattacks in these directions so that they can not simply apply to all regions. i think that the team i must take into account these moments that exist today, yes, indeed, they are to some extent young, retreat some, you know how to marinate, withdraw in

the interests of the prospects of new operations, so to speak, but the time has come, i see in many directions and not only necessarily in zaporizhzhya, but also in lysichansk in north donets, about such cooperation , which is important today for defeating the enemy's efforts, so that they do not have ukrainian culture to remain and gain positions, the problem is that they say eh in informal conversations, in particular, what to fight there is nothing, well, here is such a situation, the sentence is that this is already a real problem, and on the other hand, we should already be talking about fresh reserves, which should act effectively in all regions in support of those armed units that are today, either in the cities, in luhansk, north donetsk , or in these villages, and then, accordingly, we can carry out more counterattacks, we can not only defend ourselves, but even try to encircle and devalue all offensive operations. i think that here our

military needs to especially plan these operations, to act very effectively meter by meter it’s like retreating , maneuvering everything alone, and it was effective, but it is necessary to carry out special complex operations to strike at stela with a strike from the flanks and the activation of new reserves. but also the new video weapons that are arriving today , which we are talking about, and then, accordingly, our military, who will not complain that they have nothing to fight with, so in this situation today, the number one issue is the replenishment of our armed forces with new weapons and new forces that are already prepared today and in ukraine abroad, mr. army general, is it possible to somehow influence the improvement of logistics? yes, we understand what is being supplied to us. well, the americans speak openly, naming certain numbers, and the germans do not either. are hiding and we see that it is really very serious. it is possible that there is an opportunity from the general staff or from the office of the president to

somehow influence the situation in order to help organize better tourist support because weapons are entering and at the same time information is arriving that the fighters they complain because they lack, well, first of all, i think that for each program this was also proposed by the leadership of the state and the general staff , the strength of the ministry of defense for each program, for each country, the supply of, for example, theories, for example, tanks btriv should be the history of the escort commission. this is military kyiv, according to the government representatives, who not only deliver , but what specific issue is being lobbied for delivery schedules and preduri there, for example, the same germany, so as not to delay the specific issue of delivery and types and quantities and moves the information to close quarters, but this is all worked out training in parallel and er placed in separate directions of the front. this is a problem that is being

solved today. therefore, at the moment, all the logistics from the moment of even the promise, then the provision, namely the main task, is real and the transfer to ukraine and the sending of troops of our already trained military personnel is a separate scheme that should work today as in the past, so far i can see the order did not work, but today this issue is relevant it was also considered at the security council by our armed forces of ukraine and the ministry of defense. i think that it will be worked out in the near future and our military will receive what is needed for effective protection, and now it is already relevant, i am signing again and carrying out not only tactical, but already preparing for strategic offensive operations for the last time restless in the territory of the russian federation , recently the oil refinery yesterday uh-uh something exploded there and uh-uh today there is also information that there are problems in particular at the facilities if

i i'm not mistaken in the region of buryatia, transbaikalia , lord, my god, and the sverdlovsk region is in the first option, it's uh, there's some kind of fire there , aggression, the second option is supposedly the same, some kind of gasoline oil capacity, well, less, but it's clear the thing is that our attention is now focused on everything that is happening in the russian federation, although there was something exploding and burning on a regular basis even before the great war, and this was the norm. nevertheless, yesterday's epic video about the drone and the oil refinery, in particular, in your opinion what will the federation be able to do considering that president putin is holding an operational meeting on wednesday with the permanent members of the security council of the russian federation, well, first of all, we see that the plans that happened once regarding the

burial of the donetsk luhansk region and e the formation of a powerful block, that is, we will wait for a decision to intensify aggressive actions in opposition to our political successes , according to the supply of weapons and the strengthening of our military units, and putin will be in a hurry because the delay in the process of entering the new regions , especially the mastering of the luhansk and donetsk regions , actually leads to failure we receive dear ones glory to ukraine glory to the heroes congratulations ms. yulia we will surely start with you the european parliament passed a resolution in support of a huge majority of votes granting ukraine and moldova the status of candidates for joining the european union this is actually another intermediate step and the decision of the european council of the leaders of the european union countries, which is also supposed to meet in the

coming days which took place a week ago, the deputies are talking about the fact that there are many issues for ukraine that will have to be resolved, perhaps there is information on how it was possible , so to speak, to oil orban, the hungarian prime minister. so we expected that hungary would start actively pushing sneakers, our wheels are european integration , but no, orban somehow decided to come to an agreement. so we offered him something for mr. viktor, what about you, or mrs. yulia, if you have information, after that, i will give you the facts. i will tell you what others have told me. i think that hungary is now it sometimes looks like the fifth wheel in the wagon of the european union, and realizing that

hungary is now dependent on the european union in terms of financing, it does not dare to take such drastic steps considering that now the whole the european union has just united around the idea of ​​such a symbolic and initial idea of ​​ukraine joining the european union. this is primarily a political decision, and secondly for hungary, it is an economic, purely economic decision, because i know that hungary was even overloaded by cutting some financial aid. from the european union, it is possible for mrs. yulia to say that they went to a meeting a lot, for example, in hungary, in the matter of sanctions, they removed kirill how much do you remember gundyaev from the sanctions package and made concessions in other eh

let's say so in european moments, so i think that, but i will also tell you that hungary will be exactly that country that will look with a big magnifying glass at everything that we will accept, how we will go towards the path to the members will be to consider whether the one and only law on the protection of national minorities on which they pedaled so much is education. don't forget the question. here is the law on education where they uh let's say that they spoke like this and they raise it again and again they raise the issue even in private meetings of the law on education right now in fact, hungary is er the country through which the union has already passed all er all agreements have been signed, all consent agreements have been signed and so on, that is, the bureaucracy has completely given the green light to the accession

to the european union, however, the western balkans cannot yet that they are not accepted by the european union as a whole and i think that putin's strategy is precisely to use such countries as hungary in order to be able to block this decision at the final stage because of that now the european union will try to change the decision -making system, and it will also take appropriate steps to ensure that the decision is not made by consensus, as it is now, but that strategic decisions are made by e-e so that they are supported there by, say, two-thirds of the members of the european union, because they understand that the european union is becoming such clumsy decision-making and many interests often do not coincide. well, let's say that the

interests of italy or spain do not coincide with some interests of the baltic countries interests coincided with regard to ukraine, we understand that the european union is primarily about certain costs, certain procedures and certain, so to speak, legislative initiatives, we understand. so why does turkey have such a long way to go? in my own way, to put it mildly, but i do not dispute the european union. that is, it is not a topic for discussion, but there is a very important point that concerns money, that is, what interests me extremely strongly, that is, there is a story about two ways, so to speak. obtaining funds. in other words, we, as candidates for membership, should receive something, and in principle some macro-financial instruments were considered, so we

feel a little deprived ms. yuliya . and yes macro-financial assistance from the european union since we really need it, you know that we actually have a budget deficit of 5 billion a month er up to 5 billion dollars a month which we need in order to pay pensions and payments and support the state so that it works normally. as candidates, we will not have large, or rather, we will have access to some european funds, but these will not be huge funds to which the members of the european union have access, this is also the reconstruction of infrastructure and many everything else, but even as candidates we will apply. i think that well , in my personal opinion - it is not the opinion of the european union that we will not have access to these funds until the end of the war because, well, actually

saying that we will reconstruct and raise until the war is over, this is very automatic, but we are talking about a third fund separate for ukraine, where there will be money for the reconstruction of ukraine, which will be specially created for ukraine. faster than all the funds that currently exist and work for the european union and on which many countries claim this pie, there is one country more and everyone else has less money, so they are also thinking of accepting members or not to accept members regarding the candidacy i want to add to or rather membership, in fact, many european politicians, including urban, coming to his country after the euro consultation, says that, look, turkey has been a candidate for 20 years and ukraine will be a candidate for 20 years, that's why they are selling this story that now we support the candidacy, but this means nothing and it is not just one body, and we will have

to reverse this trend so that they are not a member and do not keep us on the list for 20 years waiting thank you, mr. viktor, a moment for you when we talk about money is the most interesting. of course , the budget of the european union has a separate article for the support of institutional reforms in those countries that have already been recognized as candidates for membership in the european union. it is obvious that next year, taking into account the fact that two countries will join the the status of candidates for membership of the european union, this budget can grow, we understand that it will very often be technically some kind of help, it will be help at the expert level, because we still need it to bring your legislation into compliance with the european union, by the way, there is not much

left and i did not count it before, it was about 30% in those positions of the groups that spoke earlier, we can also quickly go through all the seven points that were voiced by the european commission, and in fact here, too, to some points