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real threats real threats in that parts of europe are not what is listed but will say well, let 's still start negotiations, the process for the sake of the process - it is better than the absence of a process and uh, i actually see such a danger, but many europeans uh, it is already clear what to put on ukraine 's head, neither in the ukrainian leadership nor the people, nothing is impossible anymore, and you see, they say very clearly that the choice is ukraine's, we will help, but we will not put any things on your head , but of course, behind the scenes, someone can try to push us to do something and it is dangerous , let's be frank but nevertheless, no, we have already passed, put some kind of compromise on our heads that russia will use to finally destroy us, that's all. goodbye, what exists for the
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last time in turkey, next week representatives of ukraine and russia will gather the un and turkey itself are writing about this in the turkish media about the fact that certain decisions will be made about the unblocking of ukrainian fighters and the export of grain, what should we expect? what game is mr. pavlo playing? in a nutshell well, in a nutshell, they are not afraid here, but they will try , first of all, i don't really like it when there are already attempts to export our grain or from the occupied pacts, and this story is even under an umbrella under a sauce i still don't like the humanitarian disaster the second time, we have it here. if you want to work hard and consistently with measures, people say, but listen, if you want to ensure the security of the entire western part of the black
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sea, you have such opportunities, don't be afraid in the end show that you have the will to do anything there, they will get there to tell the direct texts but in order to want the grain and this is the key decision, show that you are not afraid of putin once, you have already shown it by granting ukraine candidate status well, in the end, already it's time to stop being afraid and start seriously moving here as it's in my interest inflation is 70 plus percent they have elections next year they have a desire to use themselves as a grain hub then spread it to the middle east to africa and many other things eventually to be as a partner although it is not easy for negotiations with putin and we have to do our own thing we need to insist on that there is security there is grain there is no security let's work on security yes time is also against us
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yes we are humane people unlike russia where people do not mean anything but nevertheless this is one of the few real levers in our hands and we have to use what i see today, well, the tactics , at least here, will be absolutely correct, security will be an external examination. thank you, mr. minister pavlo klimkin, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine at 14-19 years, co-founder of the center for national stability and development andrii, as always we see an interesting concentrated professional - this is very important and a very serious argument, indeed, ukrainian society will not tolerate this delay, for example, with the appointment, i just want to join the many voices well-known public ukrainians and now they say that this is something that can be done already, this item can be done simply more than that, they promised to do it even
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last year, go there and do it to the plaintiff too well, let's move on. oleksiy goncharenko , people's deputy, vice-president of the barrier committee on migration and refugees, will join us in a moment. did this extremely interesting forecast appear in the cabinet of ministers, which predicted the approximate date of ukraine's accession in the eu, what year do you think it is? well, that minimum takes seven years, and the eu yes, how much does the cabinet of ministers give 10 years, no, as always , as always, the forecast is very optimistic, they say that ukraine will join the european union in 2029, 2029 is interesting interesting 19:00 on saturday the political club will analyze these forecasts of the cabinet of ministers for 2029 - this is very optimistic. i would say
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predict the weather. well, this one can be wrong, even though they don't have natalka didenko. how about us, who, together with cats, does it much better than all government officials ? the president of the relocation committee on issues of migration and months in contact with us, congratulations mr. oleksiy , i congratulate you, well, let's start with what is happening these days, at the summer session, the ukrainian delegation will move and work, and it was successful a few days ago to adopt a record number of resolutions on ukraine, let's start with the fact that the first is a resolution improved by amendments of the ukrainian delegation, humanitarian consequences, internal and external displacement of people in connection with russian aggression. why is this important and what has changed, oleksii, because we are talking about millions of ukrainians in the member countries of the council of europe, even today, many
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questions arise in them and about where children should study, receive medical care, and the rules and opportunities of theirs in different countries. the resolution confirms that it is addressed to all the member countries of the council of europe that they must ensure the necessary social rights of our refugees. and this is exactly what it is about. well, it is correct that we should not call refugees but internally displaced persons, because we are definitely waiting for their return home, but today they need social protection in those countries where they are located, and this is exactly what this resolution is about, in the several resolutions that were adopted separately, attention to children there who were left without parental supervision of such children among ukrainians not many thank god, but unfortunately they are also there. that 's how the resolutions were also adopted: protection and alternative care for divorced children with grants and refugee children and justice and
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safety of women in the process of peaceful reconciliation. well, let's talk about one more important resolution that was actually adopted the day before . and in which it is recognized that the malaysian boeing e-e 777 flight mma 17 in 2014 was shot down by a russian missile. why did it take so long to actually wait ? of malaysian boeing, what's next for oleksiy, this is an important resolution. from the point of view of what is happening today, it should be reminded that the war has actually been going on for the ninth year, and it did not start on february 24, as it was then in the summer of 2014. for the first time, it sounds like a fact that it was actually done by russia, well, there is still a tribunal decision ahead, and in the
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netherlands, of course, this will already be a legally confirmed fact, and the consequences of this, well, it is obvious that, well, we hope that this includes e-e supports ukraine in strengthening sanctions in the event of the next package of sanctions against the russian federation, well, it is also important. now it is possible for us, it looks less important, but this report began to be prepared even before the invasion during the period of reports being prepared there about a year ago, this is still a year ago let's start working, i want to remind you that russia has long believed that ukraine is guilty of something. well, even if russia itself refused its own responsibility, they wanted to place responsibility on ukraine for what we apparently did not blocked the airspace and such things, and this report is just there, it is written in black and white that the council of europe in italy a-a, in principle, ukraine for cooperation with ukraine and the netherlands for
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cooperation and the golden result of the investigation and the tribunal and it began, that is, removes any claims to ukraine, well, it is important for us, today it is certainly possible and no one would pay attention to it, but i will tell you that four months ago it would have been extremely important because russia continued this company trying ukraine should be blamed for this. by the way, for the relatives of the victims of e-e flight mh17 - this is this resolution, this is a decision. does it have any relation to doo-do? there were relatives of the victims who were present during its consideration, and there is an important point about that that the assembly also appeals to the european court of human rights, for which there are also relevant appeals of the relatives of the victims, and that they be put in the first place, because the ecj considers the decision for a very long time, and there we are talking about compensation there or, first of all, from of the russian federation and e-e hm appeals
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assembly so that these e-e complaints and lawsuits of these citizens and these cases are considered as soon as possible and out of the ordinary, and this is important because european cases can be found. well, this is such an institution of the council of europe, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, and they will definitely implement the decision, which is what we always say about the fact that, despite the sanctions, there are actually a number of european companies that continue to cooperate with the russian federation, as well as the supply of components for military equipment, what can be done about it and did you emphasize this, oleksiy, at the meeting of the assembly, this topic is excellent november and even showing photos, for example, what i see as with my own eyes and there our boys and girls captured in the south of ukraine one of the most modern russian tanks and 90 vladimir well now he became vladimir because he
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is directly the occupiers but when i in this vladimir was there together, but we only captured him, we climbed into the tower of this tank, the first thing i saw there was a thermal imager and a tee in the forest. this is a thermal imager so that this tank can be shot at night, and this is a french company. unfortunately, there are many such examples. i posted a bosch installation on my twitter. more and so on, in fact, without western components, modern russian technology is impossible impossible they do not have these technologies, and that is why i turned to my colleagues with the word programs at a time when hundreds of thousands of
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french, german, swiss families opened the doors of their houses for people they don't know and thereby demonstrating this enormous humanity and humanity and at the same time german french swiss companies supply parts that are used to kill ukrainians and just drive these refugees from their native buildings from their various houses and to europe to seek shelter and this is absolutely wrong, i can say that there is already a reaction from swiss colleagues, and even at first they began to discuss what it means that they do not know about the facts about the swiss companies, when i showed them photos, videos, everything , then they said that now they are even investigating in switzerland, together with the ministries of economy, how and how these swiss microchips and boards get to russia and that they understand that there may be some kind of kidney there, yes there on which route this product goes to russia, but they will now
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make every effort to check all this and stop it completely, well, this particular one is practically a consequence. by the way, each of you, dear friends , is watching me right now, they can watch us on your esteemed channel, they can join this, i made a third one on twitter, where for tegraf italist is a very big company and bosch, uh, and other companies, you just need to go and support this and make a twitter storm and so that they have to respond to them i like this happened especially when we talk about bosch, for example, and we are talking about the fact that this is, well, this is simply the equipment that is used, it is serviced by licensed bosch centers in russia. that is, it is not that someone somewhere bought a bunch of contraband and everything in it it looks like this is all completely and will continue to be serviced by a german company, one of which is very well- known, so let's stop it together and thus weaken russia and save the lives of
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ukrainians not only in the caucasus - is it necessary to mention this now and talk about the liberation of the peoples of the caucasus from the sub-russian occupation from absolutely all points of view, we created in the verkhovna rada an infectious legal-political association caucasus - this is a free caucasus . first of all, these are values when we say that today there is a genocide of ukrainians, and on the part of russia, this is absolutely true, but what russia has done to the people of the caucasus not only in the last century and a half, there have been three genocides of chechen ingush people , and this must also be said secondly today, these chechens are being used as if they were suppressing resistance in chechnya , and now these chechen boys, who were not even born in 2000, are now being used
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as cannon fodder for dispersion in ukraine and killing ukrainians and dying in ukraine, and this is yet another the genocide that is happening for us as well the fewer of them come to ukraine the better and here we have absolutely practical benefits of this well and the last thing that is very important, let russia deal with its bodies and let it deal with uh, not with its neighbors, attack, but let it have questions inside state, we have to destroy this zombie empire. it seems to me that this is the historical mission of ukraine, therefore the caucasus is one of those areas that we should talk about from all points of view, from practical to moral, and help these peoples to free themselves from occupation russian, thank you, mr. oleksiy oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of the student committee
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on migration and refugees. assembly of the council of europe is visiting kyiv and will meet with the victims of russian aggression, gather facts and in every possible way contribute to intensifying the investigation against the russian military and the russian of the military leadership. this is how we are getting closer to what is this tribunal that initiates the international criminal court. it is already a near reality and we see how all european institutions are working together to ensure that this tribunal takes place as soon as possible. one piece of news that we didn't tell you today. she probably deserves it, the fact that in the occupied zone there is another collaborator who was actually from medvedchuk's party. today, a biocarrier was blown up. he
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died together with his bodyguards. he is there. performed well, he was appointed as the head of some kind of administration of sculpture and youth, something like the occupation administration. well, actually, this is already confirmed information about it. well, it’s already official. in fact, everyone is reporting . i just forgot his last name. to be honest, he can it is not even worth mentioning, just so that you know that there is such a job, not knowing whether it was done by our special services or whether it was done by the partisans, because maybe even this, i assume, was also done by local clashes because there is now if there is no such government and therefore there is a lot of all kinds of banditry there and they just steal the grain and so on and there can be clashes between themselves, but the first and second options are here. by the way, there is already a video photo evidence of the skirt appointed by the occupiers as the head of the youth and
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sports family management, what did they call it this last name and forgot it forever, but they did not forget, actually, what should happen to such people who betrayed ukraine, and how , by the way, the forces of the ukrainian resistance, intelligence and partisans work in the south of ukraine . yazuk kateryna yeresko ukrainian journalist of the e-e project of the center peacemaker investigator and associate professor of kharkiv university congratulations ms. kateryna good day well, what can i say that in this project we are e-e in your main materials you always write a lot, write primarily about what what is happening with russian food crimes against ukraine, what is going next, what are the satellite
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images of the largest companies, such as the tsar, and what are the international consortia of investigators also saying? let's try to talk about this massive theft of grain and food from the territories of ukraine temporarily occupied by russia. what are the latest facts and what scale of food crimes can we talk about? we began to count the volume of grain exported from the ports of occupied crimea. that with the onset of this new phase of russian aggression, the volumes are increasing, significantly increasing if, for example, 40,000 tons were exported from sevastopol in january, so already more than 100,000 tons each do we start from march? well,
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for example, in may, we roughly calculated somewhere around 125,000 tons. this is only sevastopol, and also feodosia, which also began to ship grain. there is also a kirchik, which also does this constantly, that is, the volumes are very large. well, let's talk a little about the goals. of the russian federation what we can outline here, what is actually the main priority is the resale of our grain and its manipulation, uh, wherever it is convenient, there, now, there, we will close our mouths with this, and either we will give it or we will not give it. blackmailing the world with hunger ms. kateryna well, you mentioned the investigators who really well, we were very interested in cooperating with the world's leading investigators -
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these are media such as the new york times and so on . very cool investigators, and in principle, they, um, well, they paid attention to the fact that russia not only exports grain, but also has targets and carries out missile attacks on the territory of ukraine, uh, these are elevators, we all remember the big explosion in mykolaiv on the elevator in the port and also other cases before that. well, i personally think that the whole of russia is always political and exerts its influence, so they will use this mecha- this
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tool... actually, ukrainian diplomacy copes with this challenge . what do ukrainian diplomats manage to do, and how concentrated are we working, because we constantly highlight the topic of these food crimes . it seems that the ukrainian team is working very well. effectively, in particular, with partner countries for the actual activation of these alternative ways. well, i would like to somehow feel the issue of bringing russia to justice for its food crimes. what do you think about all this, ms. kateryna? well, i agree with the fact that our team is working powerfully. indeed, well, we see, er, those movements made
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by diplomats, well, these are serious such speeches, but i still do not see that we have, er, well, if well, there should be a reaction to this, that is, the reaction should be effective. well, they should not just sympathize with us or something support uh it has already come to the point that the leading countries of the world have to somehow intervene in this situation because, uh, in front of everyone 's eyes, russia is exporting grain from crimea ukrainian grain and at the same time no one is doing anything and everyone is just watching, well, this is probably wrong , so uh, we are waiting for some more decisive uh, actions from the leading countries of the world. are you
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monitoring this topic? what are the conclusions of international journalists about the same thing that the new york times writes about, in particular, healing, and so on, on this topic, on the topic of grain theft, on the topic of food crimes in russia, have there been any recent publications, which investigations actually caused the effect of the bomb in the west? can you name such materials ? it's hard to say what about the effect of the bomb, but uh, well , there were very serious journalistic works. well, almost in all mass media in all countries, well, in many countries , at least well, i can name there, uh, france , uh, uh, the usa, and so on, that is, about they say that and these are serious statements and we ask this
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for a reason because we understand that the actual reaction of society here and the delivery of maximum information to european society is what puts pressure on politicians to make more quick and effective decisions. how do you look at the issue of unlocking ukrainian ports on the topic of what and the world should do it now, what kind of sanctions should be applied in relation to russia and what tools should be used to unblock ukrainian sea routes? well, i want to say that i have not done such powerful journalistic work for a long time i saw it, so i think that it will cause some kind of result, although it may not be explosive, you know, but it is very serious. so i understood that you personally just think what needs to be done, how to act, because
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we heard about the possibility of involving nato in the de- blockade. to the military escort of ukrainian ships and also to the actual withdrawal of russian ships and weapons from these areas where they are supposed to move. however, there is, of course, the problem of demining maritime routes. well, here we see that great britain declared the other day that she is ready to take part in promoting however, uh, however, a more unified and world reaction is needed here, only the political will of british prime minister boris johnson will not be enough, he told reuters in an interview that britain intends to help demining the coast ukraine for the safe export of grain by the black sea, well, johnson himself is not the one who should deal with this. yes, it is, hmm, something like that
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. well, there should have been a collective story, and we see that next week it is nato in madrid that will take place. what decisions and steps can you take? opinion to be adopted and to be effective in the direction of unblocking our ports. in my opinion, the issue of security is the most important for us now, and therefore there can be no question of unblocking the ports if there is no participation in serious partners and countries nato is now turkey. well, it does not want to admit nato ships, even with such a goal, it wants to take part in the process of unblocking itself. no parties
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accordingly, we will wait for the real decisions of the leading countries of the world and serious forces in the black sea. thank you, mrs. kateryna kateryna yaresko, a ukrainian journalist of the usdram project of the center, peacemaker maria gurska, andriy serhiychuk worked for you in e-e on the air of this in fact, we will have time for the segment of our marathon to report some of the latest news, we ask the directors to turn off the sound of the hardware for us and i will be grateful, then we will not know about your entire internal kitchen. by the way, it appeared for literally six minutes that's why the report is fresh by tom cooper. you know that we follow him for his reports. this is an austrian military expert. it's interesting that he also says that we don't keep quiet about kherson and zaporizhzhia regions. and
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he also observes a regime of silence here. that's so ambiguous. it's not so bad for the russians, in fact, under severodonetsk , what is left of the combat-ready are these separatist so-called groups of the so-called lnrd dpr and the wagnerites. actually, they are working there now, but they have losses according to cooper 30% of personnel and also suffered heavy losses in recent days, and the russian artillery, which is very strongly concentrated there in the counter- battery fight, there are a lot of them. they were beaten by the ukrainians. well , we see that the politician is again quoting johnson and saying that the prime minister of great britain is warning the countries the g7 and nato allies
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and you encouraging ukraine to agree to unfavorable peace terms while russia's brutal war drags on is what you talked about with pavel klimkin and you asked accordingly if johnson says so, then there are grounds for such fears, but johnson warns against looking for a bad peace in ukraine, because such a peace would be exclusively temporary and would cause ukraine even more pain and additional economic losses through education. well, any peace in fact it will probably be temporary because, well, as long as russia exists, we will not be safe, that's 100%. but it is really important for us what this peace will be and how we will use the peace time in order to prepare and, if possible, actually make the next one impossible a serious big war, of course
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