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it was very important a year ago, we talked about it, we passed it through the parliament, then, of course, we wanted to finish the affairs of the maidan, no one thought that we would need absenteeism so much now, and we are very actively applying this special procedure, of course, and it is just as important for us, but now the process is starting directly about the hunger striker, he is a serviceman of the russian federation who repeatedly raped a woman in the kyiv region and killed her husband. he is not physically in ukraine, but it is very important for people who suffered for their relatives for justice in order for this process to be launched necessarily. well, when we convict him at least remotely, yes, then we can pursue him throughout the sector, we plus if he leaves the russian federation he will be arrested plus maybe he will still fall into our hands if he is still fighting, he may
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be a prisoner of war, besides, when the russian federation may once have a democratic regime and they will have a normal government , then they must introduce it, this is about national investigations, but there is another statement of the international criminal court on the first and second of march, the prosecutor of the international criminal court, mr. khan, made a statement that they will also investigate these aggressive crimes of russia, and i remember from the university law course that a person cannot be tried twice for the same crime, and if we convict someone in ukraine, it is already his icc. as far as i understand, i cannot judge for the same crime, so what. and then how will this distribution of who we try at the national level by our own forces take place? and who are we ready to hand over to the international criminal court? how is this something in general, is this an agreement or competence? we have a very strong cooperation with the
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international criminal court and the office of the prosecutor of the international criminal court. in fact , his term of office began last year and this year we already had a lot of communication contacts. his team has been several times . in ukraine and now they are in ukraine, he wants to open an office in ukraine, his activity is very important for us, once again we remember the first days of the war of the president in a very powerful message and signal with this that international justice should work and it should be effective and indeed, this is already the history of not only the ukrainian people, it is the history of international justice in general, therefore, of course, on the instructions of the president, we did everything possible so that the icc prosecutor's office felt confident here, and the parliament held changes to the criminal procedure code are necessary, and
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today the prosecutor's office can work independently, this is provided for by the rome statute and is directly the very principle of its activity work, but also in cooperation with us, because for the first time in its history, the international criminal court sided with the joint investigative team, therefore, of course, we have a strategy, our internal strategy, how we plan to conduct the investigation, and the number of suspects and verdicts in court, it is unprecedentedly large for today, of course, all our partners are surprised, they all thought that we will prosecute him, we will start the active phase of an effective investigation after the end of the war, but for the ukrainian authorities it is fundamentally important do it now because the government is here, the president is here, the government is here, the parliament is here, and we have to do this work and make decisions in the name of ukraine, as for the activity of the
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international criminal court, it cannot take all cases and investigate, this is impossible, the basic principle of its work - this is the principle of complementarity , that is, the icc takes those cases that the national government cannot or does not want to investigate. this is the case in all countries. this is how the principle of complementarity works. we want to investigate everything, but we really can't do everything. to investigate, for example, mariupol is very difficult for us to investigate without access to the territory, we will investigate it as well, but since international justice is of great importance, we make our investigation strategies, of course, in cooperation with the international criminal court, this is important, that is, we directly have such a road map and we look at who can take away orkhan and for ukraine his victory will be a victory for ukraine when the physical
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criminal is in the court in which 123 countries have signed the statute to date this court's history is very important, that's why we have such a strategy with the prosecutors. just last week, he was not in ukraine, and we enlightened him three weeks ago, three days ago, while he was there. that is, we sorted out who will take which case in order not to violate indeed, the rights of these swindlers. we can not violate the same and not attract them. there is a high standard of international humanitarian law there and we have to fulfill it. what cases will the international criminal court investigate ? i know, of course, that we are ready for this and our teams are cooperating, but i don't know how he will react to this , because the first rule for prosecutors all over the world is confidentiality, but i want to
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tell you that prosecutor khan is focused on quick results, not the results that we we have seen this court for 20 years, but in principle we have not seen it, let's talk about the icc, the international criminal court, the word fast is not the first thing that comes to my mind. dispersed the maidan in the 15th year there was the next appeal regarding russia's aggressive attack on the east and the crimea these cases were accepted and united now in the 22nd year we again applied and accepted the previous cases i did not hear that they were moving in any way nine years, we have demanded everything from everyone, but we came to the court and said
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investigate. well, i have ratified the roman statute . there is a single basis, there is a single regulation on the basis of which it should work. you know the roman statute is a joke, when a person asks god when i become rich, give me, give me, i won the lottery. yes, i won three kopecks of a ticket like this . well, they took him to the investigation and said that this is their competence , they can investigate these cases because, let's say, they haven't taken them yet. because those cases that were previous, we made 23 submissions there and because we are not a participating country, a participating country it is necessary for the judicial chamber to submit to such investigations concerning these events i would like to remind you that on march 1, lithuania applied to
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start an investigation in ukraine, applied to the mts as a member country of the rome statute, and then an additional 40 two countries applied to date, their last 43 being chile the participating countries of the rome statute agreed to this for us in our interests. they contacted the khan's prosecutor and he started an investigation, so of course, if you take , for example, the experience of other countries like there the main slow thing happened here. you are absolutely right, but as far as our case is concerned, it was the right question. and buy a ticket for us, but today prosecutor khan shows that he is ready to advance quickly, he is ready to cooperate with all law enforcement agencies, he is here in ukraine, he is with everyone i have already met, so i think that there will be different results, well, in the end, this is not a question for you
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. why is the statute not ratified, uh, it would be more precise for you if you were still a people's deputy now no, we just need to explain to people that the rome statute is, in principle, the right lever . it is balanced, and that's why when it is necessary to conduct a proper explanatory work and show what are the pros and what are the cons that someone thinks are cons - these are not negatives, it will be a completely different story, but this is not the right time, we need to win the war now, and then the investigation has already begun, and this is how the prosecutor of the international criminal court has the opportunity to work. therefore, i think that today it is more important for us to think about how to collect this evidence as with this opportunities to bring to justice how to win the war yes, but to finish the topic of the icc of this international criminal court, it has one more point in its statute. if i remember correctly,
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three functions are written: they investigate war crimes , crimes against humanity and genocide, and the crime of aggression, but only for those countries' competence who signed the rome statute, that is, they are with us hope because russia did not sign at first, it was more likely that they signed, then they withdrew and i was signed because of the military preparations for us crimes and crimes against humanity. i saw the statements of the prosecutor general of ghana. they are all fine, but we consider russia's aggression to be genocide. it is appropriate, well, the speech of the parliament, the statement of the parliament of ukraine, not only ukrainian. but i did not see that the international criminal court. maybe i missed something, also considered the possibility of studying this case. as a genocide of the ukrainian people, there is a chance that the icc will include this item in its investigation of the crime of aggression against crimea, we cannot
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confuse it with genocide, and prosecutor khan is ready for it do it and go ahead. last time when he came , he talked to the parliamentarians about giving me the competence to investigate the crime of genocide so that technically everything was clean, but in his first statement on march 2nd, he said that he would also investigate the genocide in ukraine because for us, of course, it is very important that he take up this case. and we have our own strategy on how we can investigate the genocide in ukraine, in principle, as for what happened in mariupol, at least the deportation of children is a clear qualification regarding the genocide, therefore, i think that we will move in this direction, so that prosecutor khan begins to investigate the genocide, this is very important. therefore, we recorded that there is a national level of investigation of crimes in russia, there is an international level at the level of the international criminal court, but on may 19, the
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european parliament praised the resolution in which called for the formation of another e-e tribunal to bring to justice the russian government officials and the military leadership who caused war crimes in ukraine, that is, we are talking about the creation of a separate of the tribunal and the president's office also supported this idea and even hope that such a tribunal will be formed by the end of the summer, that's when. as far as i understand from the logic of our conversation, it will be necessary to single out some of these crimes for the tribunal, that is, it is no longer just a distribution of crimes between national legislation and international a criminal court and also a tribunal, how will it all happen, and frankly speaking, are there not too many judges , are we not scattering our attention and evidence against russia in this way, the president's policy is very he is correct, he is trying wherever possible to take an active position to protect ukraine , he is doing it, and of course this trend is international
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, international justice, he is correct, and the issue was swift international justice. i think that in this case it was precisely the crime of aggression that is not covered by competence the international criminal court is not covered in relation to ukraine, if it is also about other war crimes. of course, it is necessary to expand the mandate of the international criminal court and the future tribunal, but this is all prescribed in the charter of the future tribunal. that is, the tribunal is the same court in principle and of course there will be a big role here who will sign which countries will sign under this tribunal . as far as i know, the ministry of foreign affairs is very active and since they coordinate this direction, it is probably better to talk to the minister and his team but directly the message was as follows ukraine needs international justice because we all saw
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on february 24 that international law well somehow it was broken yes it was broken it was not able to protect ukrainian civilians it could not fail to take any preventive measures, these frameworks that were set after the second world war turned out to be ineffective in the xxi century, therefore, in this case, the emphasis is on the swearing of criminals to responsibility, and of course, with this, we will be able to end the war quickly and protect it for the future from such aggressions , you already mentioned in our conversation, er, this crime, which is still being investigated in absentia for the rape of a woman by russian soldiers in the kyiv region, and i recall the repeated statements to the previous boatswain ukrainian ms. denisova about the terrible facts of the rape of children eh, but as far as i understand,
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it was mostly about this information with an anonymous telephone line, is there any evidence that could be used in court based on the facts given by ms. - in which country, if we are talking about the protection of people's rights and the effectiveness of such protection, of course the position of an athlete is key in order to check how law enforcement agencies react to any crimes and protect those people who apparently either do not contact the law enforcement agencies or do not know how to do it correctly. i think that regarding the activity of the athlete, the assessment of this activity, yes, the parliament, yes, the effectiveness of this activity, that they are directly the facts of sexual crimes. unfortunately, we are
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an experienced nation since 2014 on sexual crimes in the temporarily occupied territories of donetsk and luhansk e-e regions, there were and we even have a methodology on how to solve them sexual crimes in ordinary life and during vinnytsia absolutely different investigative methodology because the victims are in such conditions when they are not only under enormous stress, but they are still afraid for their lives. and therefore, of course, in order for us to talk about uh, a significant number of rights in a significant number of hundreds that were or were mentioned by the abortionist they will appear in our country after the end of the war, when the victims will definitely understand that they are safe and the state will create all the conditions for their protection. today, these people are under great stress and face great fear for their life and the lives of their relatives, and besides, they don't
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want to be statistics, they don't want to experience other stresses later when their acquaintances and neighbors are just journalists breaking into her life and asking well , how are you today? these three months , what a hunt for victims that anyone found out about, the authorities, journalists, civil society, and so on. i believe that we need to understand that such a culture must be changed in order for victims to turn to law enforcement agencies they must understand that they will be protected from this, our culture must change, and how we talk about it, now there will be a trial against this player, he will be closed, of course he will, and we will try to protect the victims of such sexual crimes as much as possible. i wanted clarify as a journalist, because this already affects my
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trade union solidarity. you have to be very careful, i'm just talking about law enforcement officers, just clarify that. so, i have a question for some colleagues who are trying to sound sensational, but i see that from inside the law enforcement agencies very often this information leaks out, which should be closed information from criminal proceedings, you are absolutely right, law enforcement officers must understand that if they want to have the trust of society, they must behave in a dignified manner and put the victim inside all processes and so don't behave yourself, this is the basis, firstly, secondly, in this case, we have to cooperate very closely with civil society, because the victims will not come to those people who have been on this for many years experienced psychologists who know how to rehabilitate the victim and how to work properly with law enforcement agencies so that later this
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person does not get into history when there will be an extract of some information, therefore, this is how we look at today. as for the events of february 24, three criminals have already been identified rapists and suspected them. one case in court, of course, there are many more such proceedings and there will be even more, but first of all we need to create this base and end the war b to create safety conditions for traumatized people is not in the english language, even they do not use the word " victim" they take to viber the one who survived gave therefore, everything must be done to rehabilitate a person so that he is not traumatized again i completely agree so we already have even despite the fact that we have not yet won this war, but there are already the first
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sentences . the dpr sentenced three foreign citizens, two britons and one moroccan, although his father insists that he is a citizen of ukraine to the death penalty, now he is the president, when two captured americans who fought in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine are also threatened to be sentenced to death by the russians, what is this in your opinion opinion should move because they already have an audience of many millions, their consumers. yes, there are 150 million people in russia, and they still need to somehow legitimize this war and somehow show that they are not war criminals. the other is why i just accept it as a show, it has nothing to do with
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jurisprudence, they studied the request, they created the content there, these series that they watch a pack and russian with propaganda is the culture of television yes, in principle, they created the context that has requests, they will spin this show it is necessary to understand that for the domestic russian consumer, this is such a fast food, such a show. and as for the civilized western world, this is a way of blackmailing somewhere . that are happening in ukraine. we understand very well that we have to prove to everyone that we are a legal state, that the choice that started the war 8 years ago and for which now our guys on the front lines and our civilians are dying
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not guilty, but for this choice, to be a legal state, to be a part of the civilized world, we hold courts in a completely different way, we have an open court over you mentioned zzhemari, at the last meeting there were 70 journalists, you can ask questions of the prosecutors, you can interfere questions for lawyers lawyers. by the way, well done guys doing their job. imagine how difficult it is to protect a person in such conditions. yes, but it must be done because if we want to show that we are not them and that we will not make such shows and that we are a legal state and that we we are fighting for these values, we will provide them with protection, and honest real protection, i talked about it with lawyers, i understand their difficulty, i understand how difficult it is for them to morally cross the courtroom, because in our country it is already a common story when
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a client identifies himself as a lawyer, but in this in this case, they are doing the right job, they are showing their people in their world that we are not them and that we have a civilized state and we can be part of the european community. i caught myself thinking that you, ms. iryna, are not acting as a prosecutor or as a prosecutor general, but as a lawyer attorneys, i speak as a citizen of ukraine in a good sense. well, it's true, there is a problem. when we identify a lawyer with his clients, well, that's it . look, it's the same problems as wars are not new. they were there 300 years ago, we are now let's look at this war, it's just as barbaric as the one waged by russia 300 years ago, they haven't changed much, i want to say that's why we as people have to change. yes, we should think about the prosperity
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of our countries and our new generations, that's why i'm here i'm just thinking, as a citizen of ukraine, in which state do i want to live, i want to survive in a legal state, well, that's before changing our prejudices, and this will actually be his last question for today about prejudice. i'll leave our main topic of war crimes, and you're the first a woman in the position of prosecutor general, i can't help but ask. did you encounter a prejudiced attitude towards yourself in this position because you are a woman, it is so difficult because of the contradictory attitude towards yourself as a woman until you became the prosecutor general, but when i became the prosecutor general i even once said on the air that ukraine is a sexist country, this is true, that is, a woman has to prove that she can be a professional. she can
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lead people, you know. yes, and do it for a long time, but in order for her to prove it, her role is as follows they perceived that it is necessary to do 3-4 times more than a man and to work. a woman needs more than a man. i think that women feel it. i was probably just such a happy woman until then, but then the stars showed the real picture. it is difficult for women to find in those positions where they have to be proactive, they really have to do much more to overcome this prejudice, and in principle, when i ask people why such an attitude, i had such and such a story when i like to communicate with people. i say and why is this attitude? well, you are a woman, that is, and i always thought that this was a big plus. when you were
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born a woman, and others consider it differently, but you knew it, such questions of culture, questions of perception. well, and questions of constant work on yourself for those people who they believe that something is wrong if a woman occupies certain positions, we have no room for improvement, this applies to everyone. thank you, ms. iryna, for finding time for this conversation. have we talked with iryna vynediktova , the prosecutor general, or if we have already talked about it, prosecutor kai, be a feminist too, be ukrainian. thank you, article 27 of the constitution of ukraine. every person has the inalienable right to life; june, the day of the constitution of
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ukraine unconquered cities of ukraine pavlograd , an industrial center with a cossack past, the secret waterway of the zaporozhian cossacks ran through the vovcha river here after the october revolution the unr army led by peter bolbochan drove the bolsheviks out of the city, albeit for only two years, the pavlograd anti-communist uprising became one of the largest in the 1930s, during the occupation, the invaders set up a concentration camp for prisoners of war and a ghetto in the city, where more than 2,000 jews were exterminated today, pavlograd is under fire but continues to help everyone who needs it, because the people of pavlograd remember well as a group you are lighter than
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the occupiers, you are pavlograd invincible, a historical decision, ukraine, a candidate for the eu, our way to europe long and difficult we are europe because we share european values we still have a lot to do to finally become a country of the european union but we feel the support of the european family this is our small victory and we are ready to continue working who said that war is a man's business in this war victories meet paramedic mila makarov studied at the american course of combat medics since the 14th year, raises the standards of combat medicine to the world level with such angels on the battlefield, you save the whole
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world, the warriors will definitely return with victory here my place glory to the hero glory to the heroines the russian world is only capable of destroying hundreds of run-down houses , they start the infrastructure of devastated cities, but it cannot understand and overcome our faith and love for the motherland, every brick and questioning house will lie in the foundation of a new independent and happy ukraine, we took, came, painted everyone bought the minimum equipment and started working, being in their place and doing their job, people are all grouping up, working, it is important than ever before , we will revive our cities and our economy and we
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we are afraid to work so that our ukraine prospers, we have nowhere to hide because we have to work . i love ukraine. i was born here and i want to live here. we work with faith in ukraine. watch the project to find yours. day of war news time from ictv fact information teams and the windows of stb the occupiers waited for the night again and began to search the rear regions of ukraine several powerful explosions began residents of dnipropetrovsk oblast the camera will observe
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