hysteria in the kremlin, our country received the status of a candidate for joining the european union and the decision was unanimously supported by all the leaders of the european union during right here in brussels on june 23, mrs. ivanna, you were at the forefront of the european integration process of our country during all the years after the revolution of dignity. what does this mean for you day and this decision of the european council , i am very happy because we received this status, that the european union showed value and did not manage to say no to ukraine at this stage and it is fundamentally important for us because this signal is also for our society, which supports this path of development and the opportunity to have a legally fixed future as an opportunity for us to have this european perspective, of course it hurts to the point of tears that we are now on this in this line

for the last four months after the application was submitted with the beginning of a full-scale, full- scale invasion of russia into ukraine, and we ran this c- this piece of e-e sprint, of course, against the background of the great tragedy and the great struggle of our water and i would like that our victories and our achievements did not have such an unusual, such a painful, such a bloody price, but as for me, you know what this means for me, it means a new stage and a new stage of responsibility for big tasks. i would really like so that everyone who is involved in the ukrainian government today feels this responsibility, this is an incredible chance under

unprecedented conditions, and with an unprecedented response . to start implementing and get to work, although we can already see that we have already wasted at least two days during which it was definitely possible to announce the winner of the competition for the head of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office and appoint him by a corresponding decree, but so far we do not see this powder, in principle, this is a special status candidate yes, when on the one hand there is status, on the other hand there are conditions that must be fulfilled by the end of the year, i honestly do not really believe that if we do not fulfill the conditions, we will be deprived of candidate status maria, i do not i don't know if you will agree with me, but i believe that no negotiations will begin with us until we fulfill the conditions, and looking at

north macedonia, for example, which has been waiting for these negotiations for 17 years, we also need to be attentive to all this. i can correct it a little. the ukrainian authorities say that they plan to fulfill these conditions by the end of the year, and of course i would very much like to see it. well, not only with decisive statements, but with direct action, and we, in the middle of the parliament, will definitely contribute to this as much as possible. if there is such a readiness, because it is still a carte blanche, and the majority of the parliament has the greatest possibility, and that is why we do not have a set time frame. i only congratulate them, because at least the vast majority of these components of these conditions can be fulfilled, but you are definitely right when you say

, vitaliy, that no one will start membership negotiations with us without the absolute fulfillment of these conditions. well, in fact, it seems to me that we need to be very clear here talk about some things right now at this stage conditionally with the european commission, a-a, which of the points they see, because some points are very specific and very detailed, and some have a broader task, such as, for example, the legislation on national minorities, and this is certain that would involve a public dialogue there, some details of understanding the accents on the part of the venice commission well, definitely not the intervention of the aggressor countries in this process and i do not rule out that here certain influences will try to us in the middle through through the remnants of the fifth column and

tuck in. yes, mrs. ivana, please stay in touch in response to your question. congratulations, before that, do i share your opinion that we will definitely not be deprived of candidate status? well, that is, you have ms. ivanna has more political experience , more opportunities to analyze it. i don’t know if they will take away the candidate status from us or not. is it possible in principle, but i will remind you that in italy in its own stream e on espresso, which can be watched on fridays at 12 actually laid out how the time perspective of the transition from the status of a candidate to direct negotiations on membership might look like. and actually, vitaliy portnikov talked about the fact that we can be kept in this status for decades if we do not do our homework. well, what about us actually we are hearing from the ukrainian authorities what

ms. eh is talking about except it is written eh actually the vice prime minister who deals with issues of european and euro-atlantic integration olga stefanyshina believes that ukraine will join the european union for years, not decades. it is predicted by some european officials about this in an interview , and in the usa i informed the press here. well, in the cabinet of ministers and already today in the nsdc, they even named a specific year from which we can start, it is 2029, that is, 8 years according to government officials this process may take plus or minus ms. ivana, well, how do you look at the time prospects of real membership and 2029 as a year from which we can start, you know , it is quite difficult to forecast and give any time frames, i think that this is a thankless task, but definitely i understand with you that during martial law there is also an opportunity to make reforms and martial law does not have

a state. prescribed in the decision on candidacy and those tasks that stand, for example, for the implementation of the same agreement on association, therefore, er, mobilization of the authorities and, well, the whole society, who supports the european integration should take place already now, and if we are serious, if indeed, these are not declarative intentions and non-declarative goals that just led to an obviously important step to receiving an application, but then we will get stuck, then we have a chance to move quickly enough, but it will depend on both internal and capacity and on when we will end the war in order to fully and completely

focus exclusively on the reform agenda that must be built into the recovery process that must take place in ukraine. i do not see it as two parallel processes. to present today and actually speaking, it depends on what the dynamics of development and support will be further in the european union because, in parallel, it is very important for us that the european union also to a certain extent undergo a certain transformation in order for the decision-making process to be m-m speed of decision-making, dependence on each other was modified for that it was possible to move forward effectively and confidently and be in the family not only of successful democratic but also effective countries and as a common as a large community

they say that he was embarrassed by the same one from the european union and the balkans that passed before the european union summit and from which everyone expected the unblocking victory over northern macedonia and albania and this unblocking did not happen, now they are discussing that it can happen, but these proposals that the bulgarian parliament voted for i i think it is absolutely unacceptable to say this for the republic of north macedonia itself if we were ever offered such proposals regarding the start of negotiations with the european union. i'm sure that we also refused because it's just such a blow to national identity in exchange for joining the european union, it's somehow not very tasty. but the most important thing is that we see that the european union as a mechanism to ensure its own will if even one of the countries has any selfish political interests, because we understand that negotiations with the northern borders and behind the company from albania are not taking place there, only because bulgaria has its own idea about the identity of

macedonians, and i am very afraid that they are waiting for us. such problems and we have to prepare people for this, on the other hand, this is exactly what i'm talking about when i talk about a certain reform of the internal procedures of the european union, because ah, in the case of north macedonia, it became a hostage to the position of one country, and this is a country that, in order to join the north atlantic alliance, had to change its name from macedonia to north macedonia because of greece's position. and now we see that because of bulgaria's position, it is offered to take an additional series of steps there with which she may not agree, and that is why you and i also understand that this is national legislation that got there as one of the conditions for ukraine in order

for ukraine to start legislation on national minorities. negotiations about the accession we also understand that it definitely got there from the submission of our neighbor hungary, which manipulates this issue all the time in our bilateral dialogue and which has already taken hostages of our development of our relations with nato when it is precisely because of its position that the ukraine nato commission, even at this time today, cannot happen at the highest level because of the position of hungary. that is how we understand everything, that is precisely why the decision-making mechanism is at least in some aspects. it must be changed, and i am convinced that while we will do our homework while we will work on the transformation of the country after the end of the same, first of all, after the end of the

war, for sure, certain changes will take place in the european union, and i hope that these changes will only be for the better in order for it to be a really effective decision-making mechanism for the future . of this process that led to the ukrainian candidacy for the european union. and now we will continue the european theme and we will light the candle for the next guest. a missile attack was carried out on mykolaiv and sources also report explosions in the rivne region and we are still asking you to stay in shelters, please be safe, friends, lithuanian politician, member of the european parliament, former prime minister of the republic of lithuania, congratulations mr. andersesa well,

let's get started anyway from the topic that is now becoming very hot, and every day more and more kaliningrad transit, and let's just say that the republic of lithuania has stopped how the blockade was planned for long before this date, the transit of sanctioned goods and from the main territory of the russian federation in telegrams on the territory of the kaliningrad region of russia, the russian enclave, which is located between the territory of the melitovsk republic of the republic of poland, and this is what unleashed the hysterical perfect reaction of moscow, threats to the propaganda company today, the meeting of the president of russia, belarus, during which president lukashenko says that lithuania has declared war on russia, but at the same time, we only saw a message to yours colleagues, read it please. maria, discussed by

resurrected e-e, the message sounded as follows : the european parliamentarian for lithuania, peter with austria, reported that the european commission had prepared a document authorizing the transportation of goods under st. patsantsami from mainland russia to the leningrad region through a wonderful country. he said that lithuania should not allow these sanctioned goods . yes or no, well, first of all, lithuania did not prohibit anything and did not impose any sanctions, especially those related to transit from россии москвы and er, that er, in my opinion, in march, the european union er, with the support of all countries, including lithuania, had the so-called fourth package of sanctions, which limited er supplies of the most different goods er to russia in the european union, here are these sanctions, they implement everything

in life. lithuania asked the european commission how these sanctions should be implemented in the event that such goods are transported from russia in the blood of hail, and as far as i know, lithuania received e- well, no provoglashaetsya but there is such a responsible commission , so in this case, if such goods are transported from russia to kaliningrad, these goods cannot be transferred through the territory, that's all , the initial sanctions are dismissed, but then the kremlin understood big noise, although i knew very well that what kind of sanctions are already taken, that they recognize the reality of it, well, from this noise , how do we understand, in general, they began to think about something

genre, what are they there we'll come up with something, we'll see for now , well, there's nothing, but here's the biggest one the danger is not tom there, this steel is being transported there or not, let it be transported through from russia to kaliningrad or not, but the biggest danger is that what is blackmail by the kremlin, it is possible to read it with success, in this way, that the commission can to rewrite the uh-uh rules that before this very clearly said that uh-uh such a transit can't be done basically that if it's possible to rewrite the rules tomorrow, rewrite the other rules to explain to our viewers what the speech is about

there was a transit that goes not to a third country but from one region of russia to another region. and at the same time, the uninterrupted operation of transit in the kaliningrad region, as it is actually reminded in russia, is guaranteed by the russian-lithuanian international international treaty, and when it is convenient for the russians, they really care about the international the treaty and such an argument gives russia er rights er well, at last, there are chances to achieve er exception to the leningrad transit from the effect of sanctions, but the danger , mr. address, is that er, russia is going to such an unprecedented blackmail that now surrendering the positions of the european commission would mean that the kremlin's threats are actually scaring someone, and in this, as it seems to me, there is more danger than this is not all the

sanctions, because on june 18, only a part of them worked. there are more and more restrictions ahead. from july 10, the sanctions will be expanded and cement, wood , alcohol, and even caviar will be added to the transit ban, and oil will be banned from december 5. and oil products will be enough a strong blow not only to russia, but also to the entire kaliningrad region, so the question is whether the european union has succumbed to the blackmail of the kremlin , which is now abhorred by the most frank statements, and about that, and in the context of threats to lithuania itself, and we increasingly hear it um, the statement that russia can carry out nuclear strikes on those capitals, well , you know, it’s so well explained that

i don’t have much. what would you add? to separate goods, first of all, about the production of the rest of the production, there are still some irons, and i am not being implemented. he passed through to this yes, he passes and further eh just eh those goods that are included in the list of sanctions they can no longer eh be transported through this so the european commission explained for us, well, the kremlin why are we, as it were, already eh he is used to, he began to make a big noise to all parties there, the corridors of sholov and everything else is not news for us, and we did not take any

steps from it if there are such sanctions . everything is going on there, we are ready - it will be implemented in life, well, as far as we understand, i actually do not participate in any negotiations there, but what about the information that we receive, uh, we know that the commission started with something there er, movement in the direction of discussing zango yavlyatsya transited from russia to some special conograph . and then the goods must still be transported between some separate regions of russia, or lithuania is a member of the sanctions, they can enter the territory lithuania,

this is the discussion in the player's commission, as we understand it, is taking place eh today, just as the president returned forever from eh from europe, he made a statement on his facebook very briefly explaining what he had about this conversation with eh underland, that is, the president of the commission, and he expressed his position very clearly, which i can only repeat and congratulate you. he told you very simply that lithuania will fulfill all european sanctions, and secondly, they can be of such a regulation that he did during the transit through lithuania somehow. well, practically we do not control the free corridor, and the third thing is that we cannot submit to blackmail by the kremlin. and that this is already a task for european union for lithuania, these are the three conditions, and i think that we will adhere to such conditions as

states, and in this way, the discussion with the european commission can proceed - everything takes place in such a russian manner. and tell me, in principle, how you present yourself , the further development of events . no yes, because most of the cargo was transported by lithuanian railways by road. you can also transport sea routes. st. petersburg route kaliningrad aviation russia can transport its citizens from moscow or st. petersburg to kaliningrad only on a more complicated route than before the war, that is to say that kaliningrad is actually under blockade . with the leningrad blockade, well , the blockade is real, and now everything is moving, that is, this is a reason,

if they want to look for a reason for confrontation, but they will find something else and learn how blackmail is presented to me, this is what old europe was presented with kremlin blackmail led to the fact that ukraine must pay a very tragic price and that after the maidan after the evolution of the maidan, ukraine did not receive a clear prospect of membership in the european union from the european union, and ukraine was placed in such a whole zone. i think it was the result of that that the european union from the old europe was first afraid of blackmail by the kremlin and was afraid that it would somehow provoke some individuals, well, it was a big mistake, and

it turned out that he directly started the war of the steps of ukraine the only thing left for this candidate now is that they already understood that it was a mistake and somehow in the lesson they learned and gave and gave candidate status than i want to spend you secondly, of course, that the kremlin understood noisily what about the famous sanctions and if i can repeat that transit is passing and this concerns what we see these sanctions on steel products, this concerns one percent of all transit and in this regard, there are no major problems and the most recent problem is that the european union everything i haven't learned yet sold to the blackmail of the kremlin, eh, and for various reasons, it is very hard to push us, simply because

if the european union gives in to blackmail, in this case, we can count on it, we can transport it, it does not transport it, it is nothing big, it does not change, it changes, it changes only what it is. the very fact that the european union can rise to the blackmail of the kremlin, and then we become, of course, the kremlin will then appear much more willing to blackmail the entire european union on the issues of lithuania, and we become the commission of such blackmail and so that someone there does not hand over er weapons er in ukraine i can blackmail in this way or there are some other sanctions to remove this our er is very, very true, that's why i say that i am in the first union the old player needs to learn how not to submit to this kind of blackmail, and for everyone, too, a load. i would be very happy if the european union

reacted in a serious way. there are new sanctions that he will have to pay dearly for each such blackmail and such sanctions. would add one more document, i am saying so semi-seriously that it would be nice if every such blackmailer woke up and handed over to the ukrainian ukrainian bayans another hemang of a naval missile launcher, then the kremlin could have learned that it is not only that it is not it can be strained, but what will happen outside the window is that it will react very strongly. several dozen people will start. the host of the addresses is what? in the context of security, on june 28-30 in madrid, another nato meeting will be held, which will be attended by the president of ukraine, vladimir

zelensky and the president of lithuania are somewhere behind us and the presidents of other eastern european and baltic countries, and in your opinion , russia never imitates missile strikes on the baltic countries, what are our common tasks in this madrid nato itself? evidence that it is necessary to make a decision that strengthened the protection of the eastern countries of the nato community, that is, the baltic countries of poland, central europe, and there are plans for such an agreement that, in lithuania, we will say nato the presence of the battalion-level troops that we have today, and the german bunker has alarmed its own battalion so that a brigade of that

level has grown. nato i think i should review my entire strategy. as far as i know, in the end, a decision will be made and russia will be called the main aggressor or the main european security money before russia in in the following documents vsje evše uštětne as a strategic partner and in thirdly, i would start to raise the issue of expanding nato to a country like ukraine because , first of all, i think that ukrainian membership in nato would greatly strengthen nato 's inability to the army has already proven to everyone that they are one of the

strongest military structures in democratic europe, and secondly, when countries like sweden and finland declared their desire to become nato members and as we know the majority of the nato scientist to welcome no there are still some problems with turkey, but they are not connected with eh. i think that the accession of finland and nato will be verified. all this is impossible to do because it is a way of provoking russia, so in detail youtube is similar to that in my opinion and the border of finland

with russia is longer than the border of ukraine with all i didn't believe this fact. well, i think it's very similar similar similar dlinnye borders so i appear arguments why is it necessary? it does not stop with nato expansion and documents appear. communication thank you, mr. prime minister, and we will pause for a moment for several important informational messages from espresso, after that we will return and continue our saturday political club already with vitaliy portnikov in two without guests we will talk about all the main events of our political and military week