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to discuss what a possible geopolitical neutrality and legal status for donbas might look like and postpone the negotiations on the crimea issue for 15 years, such a way was proposed, but it did not suit putin, he wanted to go further , kill, rob and occupy territories but again, it is possible that the ukrainian force will force the resistance it is probably not now to revise his calculations and think about real negotiations. but maybe he is moving in this direction. so we understand that putin is not ready for negotiations. in the present moment and how to do this in order to force putin to come to negotiations, we understand that for putin this is a matter of his personal life, his personal career, but on the other hand, we understand that russia really lost in a strategic perspective, but we understand that ukraine is not suffering from a tactical situation it is less about the number
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of victims among our military and so we are in ukraine. we hope that the united measure has some additional tools in order to force putin to peace. what are these tools? i am completely with i agree with you, i think that at the present time in this positional stationary confrontation of both sides, where the sides simply grind each other with the help of artillery, the only way that can change putin's tactics is the state of restraint by the ukrainians on severodonetsk and the ability to move on luhansk. and this, in turn, cannot happen without provision by the united states and allies of long-range artillery more long-range systems such as heimers volley fire systems germany finally managed to supply long-range weapons promises artillery with a 40-kilometer range, so
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ukrainian forces will be able to destroy russian artillery, then this is a reversed situation when russian artillery comes out of the range of the judge and ukrainian and continues to inflict losses, then it will turn the situation around, which is possible. when russian artillery comes out of the range of the judge and the ukrainian continues to cause losses the us and other nato allies are working precisely to provide as many long-range weapons and ammunition as possible to simply destroy russian artillery that attacks the ukrainians, when this happens, the u.n. is not forced to change tactics and think about how to declare victory in quotation marks and sit down at the negotiating table in a serious way. if the west shows unity and provides ukraine with the weapons that we have just discussed, then without a doubt ukraine will win and this victory will mean at least the return of russia to the demarcation line as of february 24 and the beginning of
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serious negotiations, and that russia will not be able to do it again at least in our lifetime, because we are in the west in at least two decades should have already understood that vladimir putin is not a person with whom you can negotiate and who you can trust, but there are also many elites in business and politics, especially in germany, who are looking for a way to return to business with russia as quickly as possible. despite this, unity is formed and ukraine, which desperately and bravely resists aggression, becomes a symbol of this process and enables europe to connect it with symbiotic relations, the more successful ukraine is on the battlefield, the more unity in the west in providing ukraine with assistance for more effective struggle, so these things are connected in this way, i agree with you, mr. ambassador , there is another extremely important factor, it is called the entry of the united states into the european continent. we understand that it was the entry
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of america during the first world war that helped the entente win over germany and austria-hungary, we understand that it was the entry of the united states into the second world war that also made it possible to defeat mussolini and hitler, and now we understand that there are certain voices in the united states that call for isolationism, but on the other hand, we understand that the united states will now be forced to comply with its obligations to its allies, in particular, and to allies from the bloc on but not only ukraine, this is the case with lithuania in particular, and corridors with the so-called gdańsk or danish corridor, so hitler insisted on it and now we see that putin repeats the ectory, but here we are talking about the former königsberg and kaliningrad. so, is there a chance to see the acute presence of the united
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states on the continents, there is simply a striking similarity in because the way putin speaks and behaves with the way hitler did it even applies to the same corridor in dantsivka that you mentioned, the way in which putin conducts this war, the methods he uses, is very reminiscent of the way hitler did it, although emotionally they are different yesterday during a tv show on on an israeli tv channel, i spoke with one of the participants, a deep leftist who said that the event provoked putin and russia. i answered that putin is now conquering the same territories that hitler conquered, the same territories and he is the one who attacks. so going back to putin's threats to lithuania and the possible punching of a corridor in the suvalkas to join koenigsberg kaliningrad to russia i think these are empty threats putin thinks europeans are easy to scare and will only give in when they hear that putin
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is going to bring war to their land but at the same time putin avoids any real military actions on the territory of nato or knows that nato will give an answer that nato is stronger than russia and it will no longer be intimidated by putin's threats with nuclear weapons, so looking from this review i think putin hopes that his threats will force lithuania to give in and scare europe and also putin is trying to signal to his sympathizers in germany by appealing to their sins during the second world war thus showing the analogy we discussed at the beginning he wants europeans to think oh my god it is not fair that the european union somehow isolated the russian enclave in kaliningrad and caused a major war i think it 's a bluff but it also needs to be taken seriously and we need to expose putin's bluffs in
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lithuania's accusations of alleged violations of international law at a time when lithuania clearly fulfills the sanctions of the european union imposed precisely because of russia's brazen violation of international law due to an unprovoked and unmotivated attack on ukraine. yes, this is an extremely important signal, ambassador, but on the other hand, we understand that it is now possible the entry of lukashenka and belarus into the war against ukraine. so, the question is, in your opinion, are there any other tools to restrain lukashenka in this story, and on the other hand, we we understand that president erdoğan in the south pursues a policy that is not fully understood, more precisely, a policy that consists in the fact that putin is very profitable for putin to trade with turkey now, so erdogan somehow too weakly supports western sanctions against putin . i think that lukashenko has been cornered by putin. in the
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last decades, we have heard about putin's terrible relationship with lukashenko all started when lukashenko faced strong protests in august two years ago when he needed putin to use force and help pacify the situation in belarus and now he is totally dependent on putin, i think lukashenko understands that his life could be better if he was not so dependent on putin, but he had to give in to putin's pressure and illegally allow the use of the territory of belarus to attack ukraine, but the west cannot do much to influence on lokochenka, because lukashenko is strongly influenced by the west. if we talk about erdogan, then he adheres to the traditional turkish policy of the age-old policy towards russia. during the ottoman empire, turkey conducted more wars against russia of the then russian empire than against other countries, turkey shows that it is not afraid
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to confront russia when it is necessary, even in a military way on the battlefield, as it happened two years ago in syria, idlib or lebanon, erdogan and turkey nevertheless show support for ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and aspiration to nato, turkey is very unhappy with the russian annexation of crimea, but as you told her, turkey avoids sanctions against russia, yes, turkey provides bayrectors that are necessary for ukraine on the battlefield, but since turkey does not support sanctions create the effect of removing pressure from russia, the high-ranking officials in turkey with whom i spoke argue that the ukrainians themselves will suffer the most from the continuation of the war, my counterargument was that yes, this is true, but it should be decided by the ukrainians themselves. do they want to continue the fight and on
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what pressure on russia is calculated and all nato members should put pressure on russia in solidarity and keep this pressure along the entire border line, the anchorage thinks otherwise, it positions itself as a mediator waiting for that moment which we talked about at the beginning of our conversation. when ukraine, with the support of the west, stops the russian army, then putin will have no choice and he will go to negotiations. the kremlin is preparing for a creeping annexation. and it is not going to play, i don’t know, some kind of fmr referendums and something else. yes, we understand that the south of ukraine is key, on the other hand, the recent visit of president macron , chancellor scholz, prime minister draga, as well as the president of romania and yoganis, they went to ukraine with one case, formally it was a conversation about
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ukraine's candidacy to the european union, so we see that this chance will be realized, but literally . the visit of macron, dear schol, and johannes to kyiv, was that, for example, president andrzej duda , the president of poland, was not invited to meet, that is, there is a feeling that we have several tracks of diplomatic what the planned fake referendums in kherson are being implemented right in front of our eyes, as in crimea, they are imposed and illegal and will be meaningless, because in kherson people will continue the struggle, no one in the world will ever legitimize or recognize referendums of this type that can be in kherson or have been in crimea, and as i said, i think that in a few decades we will see that the issue
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of the status of crimea will be on the table for discussion, but it will take some time in relation to the visit of european leaders. i think it is just wonderful that they felt the political necessity to come to kyiv. i think that some of them, in particular, macron scholz, may have understood that from the agenda of helping ukraine, they will have a result in the end, they saw that if the fighting simply stops, as france once insisted when russia attacked georgia, then it will not last long if the russian troops remain on territory, as the situation in georgia and ukraine has already shown. positions, so ukraine's leaning towards a cease-fire, what do i think the macrons would like something that did not become the order of the day. what about boris johnson from the united kingdom, which is no longer in the eu, his personal position, strong support for the sovereignty and territorial
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integrity of ukraine, also helps to solve problems from a political point of view inside the country, if you look at these visits of european leaders to kyiv from the outside, it looks very important symbolically and also important from a political perspective, because it strengthens the unity of the west and corresponds to to the request of people, as opposed to a certain business circle, who want to return to trade with russia, well, to my great regret, i have to end our conversation with a sincere thank you, mr. ambassador, for your frankness on the air of the espresso tv channel, and i want to remind our viewers that now matthew worked for them on the air of the espresso tv channel bryza extracts , secretary of state of the united states of america, a former director of the national security and defense council of the united states, and now leonid nevdin joins our broadcast
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a well-known israeli-russian businessman, a public figure with a clear anti-putin position, a former vice president of the yukus company. i congratulate you , mr. nezlin, in the studio of the espresso tv channel. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. more and more often, why did putin still go to war, why did putin dare to go to war despite the fact that everyone warned him, starting from president biden and ending with representatives of the european commission, even of the russian general staff, they all said that putin does not do this, but he opened pandora's box and
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started a full-scale war on the continent. to putin's russia, because putin has built a real state with a strong influence on him, the relationship with the mafia is not the relationship with the state, it is a completely different system of relations that is not europe, america, and ukraine were never ready. politics is always a war. it can be a cold war. warm, hot, but it can be a war. healing. putin never considered the peace of europe and ukraine as something sovereign. he can't interfere, he always krempiroval he always worked for the weak he always invested huge funds in the lobbying of his interests and this is mainly the interests of gazprom and rassneft, that's all because of western companies and western politicians, and he he was always ready to attack and attacked. exactly
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when he thought that he had reached the point where he could attack, he reached this point when he understood that they would talk to him as a civilized state, or an aggressor who had declared war. putin could never, never, ever be a tight-knit, freedom-loving in ukraine, he will never forgive the orange revolution, he will never forgive the maidan, he will never forgive the independent position in his time there poroshenko today, especially zelensky, putin understands only the position forces, and even if you look at him as the west looks at him from the position that he has less economic power than the west, for him and for the war it does not matter, he has enough power to start a fight and he started it at the moment he considered for himself critically important prepared and it is necessary to say that he is doing
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it unfortunately, it is quite successful for him and unsuccessful for all of us in relations with putin more important there was a non-standard and dynamic political peruthological historical analysis and psychological analysis of the mafia on the basis of many studies that already exist there, including mafias that did not come to power but were very strong, for example, the sicilian mafia, economic sanctions without a doubt strike, especially when they are not well thought-out, for example, sanctions that limit exports earn less money by selling the same resources with discounts in large quantities in other places . he is mainly aiming his efforts at europe and the world, namely to isolate russia completely, or
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to introduce a worldwide tax on all operations related to russian goods. well, for example, 5-10 percent, but any purchase or sale of russian goods and how would this money be they will also send to the war to buy weapons. this is the most important thing, this flow of weapons is more important than any economic sanctions, and also this money should be postponed in order to restore the economy of ukraine after the current one sanctions undoubtedly have their own effect, both personal and common. or introduces the second type of sanctions that would not allow him to accumulate or receive the currency, but simply allow him to spend it and not allow
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him to receive anything for this currency because there is no doubt that the internal resource in everything in the case of military operations, it will not last long. do you think we have any recipes for working with china in this direction, because we understand that? what, for example, the civilized world can block, putin will try to block with the help of the celestial empire, you know, i would even say so let's start syndiy eh everyone has his own shirt closer to the body india is in a very difficult political economic distance yes to india i think it is now in one of the worst conditions than it was ever and when i offer to increase the volume of oil purchases by a factor of 25. with such huge discounts, it would be hard to believe that they would refuse this unless they received another type of compensation from the west. yes, china already
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bought russian oil at a discount a long time ago. due to the advancement of the construction of turbo pipelines, plus, of course, there is an element of corruption, and the situation with china is already clear, they already deliver there without money practically and already at a reduced fixed price, and here i do not see any possibility that you would change if you mean china's resale of this on the secondary market, then this is a separate issue and here , of course, america and europe are able to influence china and india. well, again, this is not so. the most essential apology i repeat . six or seven billion dollars a month is a budget that is calculated and should be this budget according to the estimates of usaid and other experts,
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there is simply no where to get it today. to get ukraine, this is what we need to take care of. the solution to the questionable regime lies in the area of military superiority in the area of defeat, and not in the area of eh, as if you want. this is still justified or 10-15 years ahead. i want to remember that in my time there was no vtynoi and gas critic, the prices were the lowest, and this led the population to a lichen existence in the whole country, and the era ended brezhnev andropogo chernenko began the era of gorbachev but if there was no gorbachev and these chernenkos would have
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continued andropovy other yes, then another 20 years, well 10 years yes, or the former soviet union is different from each other, in fact , now they would continue to live in the same regime destroy the tsar in the kremlin, and here the key question is what will be the possible transition period after putin, because there are so many different cadets. i don’t know how to check it. it’s very difficult. well, in any case, putin is dying there. putin is very sick. there we are of course, we hope so. well, it is necessary to understand simply how his flight bureau will work. yes, we understand that part of putin's flight bureau was very well tied to the west, that is, they led a parallel life, one life, i don't know, in moscow, a second life in monaco or in france and so on, now everything is changing and there is such a feeling well, i personally have, for example, that the same medvedev has become so animated, constantly throwing in these or other things,
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hoping for what is possible in the next year or how long putin has left in office, they they will start to nominate one or another successor anton let me know what to do today, i am arguing all the time with you, but i think that it is necessary to have an honest frank conversation for ukrainians. it is possible only after putina sejách this has no significance, it is sacredly clear that the most important thing is now for a change in the situation so that putin does not have a tired look so that he stops leading the country yes po diseases there after the death of the stand for the coup, but while putin is sitting on the spot, it makes absolutely no sense to discuss what will happen after putin. i'm sorry
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, because all of them you talked about are living people with big money, they are active. they found themselves. the emirates, singapore, china. they found themselves even . kazakhs in a certain sense, if you want, and they will not open more new zones, they will live there well and luxuriously, they will get by, they already understand that they will not have america in europe, and perhaps they will not have children in europe, america, yes, they have resigned themselves to this and they will live in these conditions and reorient something to the south and to the east. that is why this situation does not seem to have great prospects, at the same time, i insist that they should be sanctioned more and more and driven to these places, and then with the help of the americans, the banking system, etc. to cover them in these places we do not leave any possibility to live in a civilized world to invest money yes, i earn money in a civilized
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world it is very important but this is what is happening today they will continue to be close to putin as long as putin is alive and will continue to be afraid of him. the medvedev phenomenon is very simple. medvedev perfectly understands that he hates a certain part of putin's entourage, including as a former and as a potential pressure, let's say, a receiver of a dick that has not yet remained close to the body. important yes, he is unlikely to be the receiver, the meaning is to fulfill some duties, but he is nearby, yes, and he remains dangerous, that is, there is an understanding especially for the fsb and law enforcement agencies that such people need to be finished here they finish and he resists he has a lot of problems against him there is evidence of abuse against him there is evidence of magomedov so and so there is no evidence against him dvarkovycha dvarkovycha left but if
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he had not left there would have been evidence of dvorkovych bear corruptor and coward enemy he moved in the attack , defending himself, showing how he can deeply stick his tongue into putin's ass and lick everything that is possible and everything that is impossible. plus, this is a small man who was offended that he loved america so much. they treated him so badly and in general, even his son decided that it was possible to do business, and here he decided that they should be destroyed, this is a comic character and his end will be death there or the end, it does not matter what they will be called comic i would not consider him as a factor at all какой-то игры how did berezovskiy speak, it's a cardboard box, we just saw how quickly the water in the aquarium changed now, so they took the cossack, disappeared, surkov is still unknown, how he is doing, and the ardent author of various eulogies of
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putin in ukraine, they took medvedchuk that is, we understand that some processes have taken place and probably for the replacement of the team i do not know the cossack surkov or another clan has strengthened. that is, it is actually possible tactical information, but it is actually also important, maybe patroshev has strengthened, maybe putin is starting to group certain resources around zolotav and kadyrov, and so uh, in order, uh, patrushev, an official is alive and well, an official whose dream was to flourish in the security council, how is the security council conducted in america, to be such a salvan, but in russia to work as a salvan burns and secondly, even on the security site, he asked to say all this even more before
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agreeing to a military operation. uh, he has no influence on putin, he is the administrative staff serving putin, and let's not be an instigator to do something like that. terrible and terrible, his time is over. that's it, he's getting old, we're crying for him, his son. principe pushes his son who can claim something uh-uh, there's a lot ahead, here's uh-uh, who else did we talk about ? the big one said that there is something that protects the body from the people, as it were, and the people are separated from the body. before, he just took care of the body itself. now he has been promoted to the position of
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head of the russian guard. there is no brain, nothing. unfortunately, they run into standing battles in ukraine in order for them to know how to deal with their own opposition people in the same way, there is a rebellion of the opposition , and so on. from putin, a person who considers himself a great general. constantly accompanied by cruelty and cruelty there and so on and has a very strong influence
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. absolutely there will be no envy of putin, putin will not be handsome on the same day, the same applies to kadyrov. yes, this is a militant eh, don't tektoker, who, so to speak, shows in every way how loyal he is to his master and how ready he is to fight for the master, there is absolutely nothing behind it, these are characters. i would say cartoon characters, if these cartoon characters did not actually kill people, they did not ask people, you know, if they do not arrange what they arranged in buche irpenii and so on, that is why these are criminals, well, at the same time it's a clown and the whole story ends with only one putin, the whole story of putin, two more props, war criminals
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