i want serhiy bulba to be in touch with us. let 's add him to our conversation. good day, mr. serhiy , good. i congratulate you. came to belarus it happened three years ago at the closing of the european games so we are not mistaken, well, i am a fan of putin, so the donors, i am new, sincere. i agree with your version. that is, this is his first visit since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the territory russia, and he doesn't often travel abroad by himself. he likes when people come to see him. well, danylko once joked, even at a concert, he tried to call putin like this, he told him, led him with a uh gesture, and then he told him no, you're not with me. well, this is such an easy analogy and tell me what made putin

go to belarus, what does this visit to belarus by mr. president of russia uzhgorod mean, by inheritance , information appeared that putin's trip was inconvenient, so it's a question, so it appeared there because of balls in a week, it's not a fact that he will come somewhere sometime second, i wouldn't. operation of him, of course, that's why you're treating it. poroshenko is a subject who needs to be criminally interrogated. tell me, do you think that lukashenko wanted to fly from belarusian territory to ukrainian territory? yes , yes, i hear you, i'm a little confused about lukashenko , is he good already? explain him, i'll ask you a question, did

lukashenko want him, what kind of ego would he forbid putin, rockets didn't fly from belarusian territory, they didn't heal and no, no, no, death to ukraine, probably not i wanted, if lukashenko listened to you, then the impression is that he will get a star from the sky, he only has to want, well, that's what we see as he builds a picture of himself in the imagination for the whole world , you understand what lukashenko could want about lukashenko's subjectivity , that you don't have a judge asked yes, look, i will answer, i will answer your question, in one of lukashenko's speeches before the start of the war, about a month later, yes, he said that if russia leads its troops to the donbas, the army of belarus will stand between the army of russia and the army of ukraine for in order to prevent this collision. and if european or nato troops start fighting on the territory of ukraine, then it will stand on the side

of russia, but we see that russia invaded ukraine from its territory from the territory of belarus . lukashenka's choice is there. in other words, we all understand in fact that this is, well, such a game, well, in words, we all perfectly understand that belarus is not just some kind of bridgehead - it is in fact ukraine, which is participating in the attack on ukraine simply not by its own forces not with its manpower of soldiers, but simply gives the territory so that russia can attack us from there and shoot at us, but now we are talking about other scenarios, that the belarusian army can enter from the territory of the brest region and go to western ukraine. do you believe in such a scenario? serhiu oh, i'm turning to the first question once again. i don't believe

the subject of the maid. i don't believe that lukashenka accepts belarusian soldiers for money. troops who are not ready, not psychologically, as if they are not ready in spirit, the statement from ukraine . but he arrives and here he decides to say without any legitimacy from lukashenka well, the belarusian army is now invading ukraine. what do you think, what about the belarusian army? well, first of all, i have

a little bit of operational information. on the border with ukraine, on the border of the village the 5th brigade of the ussr is standing in ukraine, it's marina gorka , they were tormented to replace it, the 120th brigade, it 's motorized infantry, although they had to be replaced if the coulters were ready to be given rest for 7-10 john. they don’t let the krasyliv sanctioned goods go to kaliningrad, no, they started changing there, and putin became more of a nastoiler after the first. or lithuania, in the event of a conflict, we are not even russia , nato, and not on

viton . belorussian is not given to the ukrainian , but not to it, for dolls, lithuanian, what protocols are included, what algorithms are we incorrect, but the one that russia is threatening, you see now, or youtube is threatening that i will not forgive, i tested all the corridors to kalingrad here от беларуского могут поттянту включить because, forgive me, i'm still clarifying. when the full-scale offensive of russia on ukraine began, then the captives, uh, rashly said oh, yes. we thought that we were here for training. and we were thrown into ukraine. we didn't even know. it turned out that we are in ukraine, somewhere near kyiv, and will the belarusian soldiers say the same somewhere later that there will suddenly be an invasion

from the russian side from the belarusian side using belarusian soldiers ? sometimes the rhetoric of the speakers is still the syrup of the belarusian military servicemen, and they told that for two years, if everything was according to the plan of the special operation, where according to the plan, if the help was not necessary, but about this, the second information that i called the one that only russia plans belarusian participation and even here local conflict from poland through lithuanian and we have less questions, you can uh, look, i want to go back to the first part of the conversation there about the subjectivity of lukashenka and you say that lukashenka is not completely independent, what did they say to him? and he does, but look at the beginning of march, if i’m not mistaken, there was already such a story that belarus was supposed to enter in a second wave, and there were already provocations on the territory of ukraine with these planes that fired at a village in belarus

, that is, that’s all, well, literally there 99 .9% that all of belarus enters the war, well, belarus did not enter the war in the first three weeks, they were so decisive . on in the afternoon, however, lukashenko did not come in. although he could have come in to check, i am just the reaction of lukashenko himself. if we remember the first weeks, lukashenko makes such a face and says, "what is this? zelensky doesn't want to capitulate, this is what we have to do." this is already here almost on the horse and now i will kill you right now because mr. lukashenko himself will pick up your words, now i will ask the directors to turn on his reaction, how lukashenko reacts to the armed forces of ukraine, now

the military will blow off anyone's head ukrainian military i don't i'm talking about natsiks, not natsiks, this is a question of the philosophers of ukraine, they will bring down the head of the beggar , and you understand that against the background of such incomprehensible statements, so when lukashenko is asked what will happen next, you know, his confidence is a little lost, and now listen to what lukashenko says, even to the workers tells people about that and what will happen next, let 's listen, it's about the forecast. well, how do you communicate with putin there every day, in the near future we'll meet, we'll talk about economic security it's only just beginning well, i won't say that you know such a loss in rhetoric yes, but where

is this confident lukashenko, who at least tomorrow will go somewhere on a tractor two or three times недели и всё well, you all remember this interview with solovyov, well, by the way, i think that lukashenko himself stated that we were preparing for such a cut of the economic situation in belarus today, what is happening there by law, that the economy of belarus is close to russia connected and they said that one of the main arguments that stops lukashenko there is to show his teeth to putin and here is the belarusian economy. oles alekhnovich did a study and came up with such figures. he said that belarus's exports to britain and ukraine fell to zero percent. it simply does not exist. exports to the usa, please show the graph, decreased by 74%, exports to the eu by almost 40%, and at the same time they even tried lukashenko and putin's words that it is necessary to deliver russian goods to belarus and sell them as belarusian goods to russia. saved there, well, the most important competitor is china.

yes, there is an expert. growth has only increased by 16% since the beginning of the war on the territory of russia. the main arguments are that belarusian goods simply cannot withstand china. and here we see the graph. where, please, show me again where the red one is clearly visible the line is a drop in the world export of goods to the foreign markets of belarus, and the blue bar is an increase in the value of these goods, that is, the volume of supply of belarusian goods somewhere has fallen several times, and for example, if you take fuel, it is a separate such a separate element is... well, the supply of money to the budget of belarus, currency, and the production of fuel is carried out by only two enterprises, naftan in novopolotsk and the mosel refinery in moser, but of 100% of the fuel produced in belarus, only 15% goes to the domestic market, 35% was taken by ukraine, 35% was taken by the european union,

yes the rest was distributed somewhere. and today, ukraine and the european union have completely refused belarusian fuel, these overcrowded enterprises are being repaired, that is, they can neither produce nor store it russia does not need belarusian fuel at all, and the situation is critical, did we already say that lukashenka's direct debts to putin seem to be approximately, not even approximately, but more than uah 10 billion were allowed there for another five or six years and have not been paid since the year they don’t pay you in a year, don’t pay you then, but as far as direct financial wars are concerned, there is an infusion of e in the form of e-e discounts on gas for oil . and the bbc calculated that approximately 52 million billion dollars is the debt of e-e belarus to russia for indirect investments yes that is

in fact, this is the money that russia invested in belarus . 52 billion, can you imagine this money - this is when belarus went to the russian market. they correctly noted that oil is oil there. well, it is not refined, it is russian oil, it was given to belarus, it was refined. you can at least water the vegetables there with gasoline, and in belarus, what do you want to do above it? belarus will now make uh, microcircuits , microprocessors, they are making their own electronic corionimating their production, for what to satisfy the military needs of the russian federation, that is, until things are with you, because i recall one of the most recent information from tinyyard times or your tampost where it was indicated or one of such media of the world where it was indicated that it is such a terrible story and russia actually runs out of chips and those who

not only appear when in ukraine, russian equipment was broken, they began to disassemble it in order to understand what was there and what it was stuffed with. it turns out that there are a lot of chips, for example, from washing machines, there are from vacuum cleaners ukrainian machines for using chips for military equipment to focus its production on satisfaction of the military needs of the russian federation and this is the second such argument to - that is, an indirect indirect factor. look, this means that russia was not able to establish the supply, as he says , parallel import, that is, they cannot transport these microchips in industrial volumes there from the country of south asia. i know i i understand that all the intelligence and special services of the russian federation have been assigned the task of ensuring the production of missiles there and ensuring the transportation of microcircuits, even if in a suitcase bring them and they don't cope and included belarus , let's see, show us these plugs anyway, because well, let's look directly at the

production. well, from the assembly, it's conditional . the surroundings of the microcircuit, in particular the chips for which this is done. well, let's be honest, it's hard to believe that belarus is under the power of this, there are a lot of objective numbers that can provide missiles of the old soviet model, which are now in the russian federation, there these microcircuits have failed or their they stole it, sold it already there for vodka, changed it and can provide belarus with these old missiles with these old microcircuits. maybe some new developments. i am sure that well, let's ask our expert serhiy bulba about the economic dependence of belarus . full-scale war in ukraine, something has changed with ordinary belarusians have felt the price increase in their stores, what is happening to them, as well as the currency of

natural belarusian ruble is falling, i can reaches 3:39, although the railways were started from the ears of rubles, so you understand, it feels as if the railway plant was standing with a mazer, now they are complaining, the oil refining plant, the refinery, there is also a cycle of besperapa, it doesn’t hurt to be, and they don’t have anywhere to ship the products, in general, the tank, if it is possible, they fill it up, i fill it up and they take off the shot down naturally, everything is fought back like it is in people. it is clear that many people leave belarus, it is a large stream, and those who are waiting will receive polish humanitarian visas, as if leaving a natural wound. and many people went to ukraine before the war. well, now if the border is closed like this, then i can’t do it, i have to do the quotes, which if so, you took me where lukashenko talks about the forces of the ukrainian army, so they

broke out, poroshenko was talking about the factions, and between the ukrainian men and the greens, he would obey zelensky’s rules then i'm not usually sulfate, you understand and quotes the second is the first days, the first three days, or putin promised in three days, advisor khreshchatyk, then god, lukashenko, after 3 days i understand that not everything is as passable as he says. to hope that the belarusian people will somehow react to this, and it has passed, as we expect from the russians that they are outraged by the sanctions and the deterioration of their standard of living, etc. well, first of all, we belarusians should probably do it for that that the preparation was in belarus from the moment of the conclusion of the

union treaty, and it is necessary to appoint russia, if so, it is able to choose a concept and a consistent implementation step by step, that is, it has been happening since 1996. belarus has a permanent idea of ​​absorption and even sovereignty step by step, at first lukashenko is being destroyed by the national culture, the national school is now being laminated in the belarusian-speaking kindergarten , now you are on belarusian television without hearing belarusian because it is not necessary there, even if it is 20 hours, but belarusian television was walking stronger, what is the uniqueness of ukrainian russian relations now i do not they chose for themselves a slippery people for viktor, well, i’m not completely repeating everything, russia is chasing you, you understand. thank you. thank you very much.

thank you very much, serhii bulba, the founder of the belarusian white legion, and our friends were in touch with us, but now they managed to bring me up to the topic of the head of the national security committee of lithuania, laurina, download us, we announced him at the beginning of the program as our exclusive guest, he now has the opportunity to join our broadcast. i think we need to talk to this person and hear what is happening in lithuania. good day, mr. lavrines. hello. good day. thank you for joining our broadcast. you know the first thing. the question is what is happening in lithuania right now on the basis of these mutual accusations and such rather harsh statements from both russia and lithuania, and in general these actions regarding the blocking of transit to kaliningrad yes, thank you for the question. well,

i will speak in this language, i almost understand ukrainian, but not always if there is something there. zenitizers, we do everything as it is written in the letter. this is how it is in the european documents. today , just before your broadcast, we had a committee where we gathered as three ministers. we looked at the processes here and everything. everything we do. we do everything. eh, and the european union made a decision back in march, if there are eh phase-by-step processes, now it’s time to give 17 june, it was necessary to eh, the killed had the opportunity to transfer eh, eh, they became

black metal on july 10, it will already be this there will already be cement and alcohol even that feeling is the same большое самое большое и большое самое большое и будет когда большой большой будум ех от меня alcohol will stop the drunkards. because what will happen then, we don't know. it 's hard to predict. in kaliningrad, there are still a lot of houses left. let's call them the prussian era. and there , people heat them in the winter, can they? that is, no gas can be discussed there. and in particular, from august, the sanctions package provides for restrictions on the supply of coal, which will not be able to be transported. and then what to do with these people, then that is also a question. then it is not even about vodka anymore. to vodka, it will be so official russia seems to be the governor of the kirovohrad region said he

called all these actions frankly unfriendly when russia calls something to another state as frankly friendly, then they expect consequences, what is called here what do you think, and how should the words of the official be taken as true russia frankly does not stop, it is not difficult, it is difficult to understand how, how, uh, here are these actions of russia, how seriously do you take them, sharp how many statements about the fact that the answer will be uh, uh, not diplomatic and ah from our answer, the life of lithuanians is significantly reduced. well, you consider this as a direct threat . this is what we traditionally do . we know who we are neighbors with . what is our neighbor? he will do it in ukraine, uh, well, of course, we understand that they are now

uh, very much, they will be shouting new things, they are creating so many, many, many problems that they do not have the potential and any real levers, if we were talking about the military stela eh , there may be some provocations, maybe something there we don’t talk about it, but we already hear about it, but there are some connections there, and there are those to block some ships there, and so on. well, there are those, as it were . it's about military intervention, and they do n't, i can't do it now, and because we're still a nato country, it's a collective guarantee , five, the fifth page, i don't understand everything, it can be... other economic and political ones, uh, we're always here, of course when i think about it about energy, but since childhood, it has already made very good steps in this decade in this

decade, for example, in our balance, gas from russia is zero, and if we talk about oil, it is zero, but we are connected by the system even with vovsky vo -volskyi cascades, yes, the electric power system, we are still connected with them, with synchronization, we must do synchronization with the west in the 25th year, there may be such a nuance here, and i don’t want to, but it can be done there, so that we have some kind of izliroly yes, somehow e- eh, this is you, this is your system, but we are ready nationally, we also have ready ones all ha-generation такую что мы мы гомиром могу что казать что мы готый that's it and well, so we reviewed such uh such uh uh let's say the nuances that maybe they will press a button somewhere yes somehow somehow somehow here can be such genikh, sir, let's look, we're getting ready, of course, uh, narratives and propaganda , everything is growing, their goal is simple, you understand that, uh

, we started a discussion to somehow surrender to sanctions, we make some kind of national reservations, that 's our position, says a why we didn't make a reservation nationally and we are talking yes, yes, you understand, if everything is going to make reservations, yes, this is not possible, the second one is not possible, yes, what does this mean, the sanctions do not work, this is what they are intended to do, so that the sanctions mechanism does not work , and they are pressing now. the european heart said, let's not do this here, yes. here, for example, these are their plans, and of course we are. we will not work according to this plan . armor the train and let it go with cement, metals, and building materials so that it can go, and then we'll see what will happen if they do that. what step will lithuania take? well, let's look at the

conversations about the seventh package of sanctions . about whether or not there will be a restriction regarding russian gas, and here's how you can comment on the information about the fact that kaliningrad itself receives russian gas through lithuania information about what exactly they thanked because leningrad can be cut off from russian gaza here we see this scheme of obtaining it is not enough to make a hop-stop a-a kaliningrad eh well more or less i can’t say that they have reached this or 100% but more or less independently eh in terms of energy and they have a life station there new and but they too

dependent you said very well about the infrastructure that goes through lithuania and they have not achieved 100% independence, you have some option, but it's not like that, everything is simple which is simply out of the game, these european sanctions are at your disposal, there are some places where you don’t have it, everything is just like that, that’s how it is. they have to think. because now in the european union there is already such a thing going on, as if to grow into this kind of tiredness of sanctions, this is, this is visible, this is not good, of course, we are against this, and we will always have discussions, and on sanctions on gas, don't screw it

up it would be a strong lever, but it's not like that, it's not so simple here, it's not so simple, we have to understand all of this, all of this. им онлайн а что из себя представления от день день военная the grouping of russia in kaliningrad and the number of troops there is increasing, we know that they have a sufficiently powerful, powerful fleet formed there, this is how these troops have changed, are there any trainings taking place there , because, well, this is, in principle, in the rear in the rear of europe, such you can call it a pimple of the russian army, yes, you know, if 10 years ago, eh , i’ll tell you a little bit of a short story, in russia they understood that canalization, eh, an enclave is like the cheese of a eh sandwich. yes, in a sandwich. well, here is

lithuania poland on the one hand and poland on the other so on, and not everything was done to create it , more or less, a military outpost and some kind of independence of the original yes, as it were, in an ethical plan, so that we do not depend on others , and so on, so i don't know if they have achieved those goals they had, i don’t know 100% for sure, no, but, but, anyway, they created military outposts, and there are all kinds of roofs. as he says, they also have a fleet, and they have all kinds of nuances that they do in our baltic sea, but now this is already the third time i will say it on the ukrainian broadcast, eh, that's what i am i wish for the sake of ukraine that she helped demilitarize - helps us to demilitarize the kaliningrad region because a lot of people are

formed. so everything will not be introduced as they thought from technology and people and military and so on, so how would you say uh, no, they are now big in kanegrad, as they were maybe an hour or two ago. that’s only because of your patriotism and what are you what are yours yours yours escape at the front of what they are doing as they do they below did not think that it would be so difficult yes, this is a big glory to your country, your withdrawal forces and your patriotism yes, but even more so it's like a forpo there already everything everything everything is already set up with us even that there is something leningrad it's as if in one military big one base here for example yes here we are like that here but no no now they have no no no not like that