on may 27, when the uoc mp council was held, it was decided not to mention patriarch gundyaev in the kherson region from below, and the service company began. onufriy, his name is orest, in order to sever, at least partially, at least in appearance, ties with the moscow patriarchate, that is, what is happening now, let's say with the help of active priests from ruskomir, something like this is already happening a schism inside the uoc mp which, unfortunately, the structures of the uoc mp prefer not to notice . pretend that nothing happened, although in reality

the decisions of the council are ignored. sometimes the authority of this council is questioned in general, that it was the council itself. it is called some kind of meeting. unknown people who forced metropolitan onufriy to make such a decision under the pressure of nationalist forces there and so on. well, that is, of course, such moscow rhetoric. in other words, we see that moscow is officially at its level for the first time annexed parishes in crimea, which before this large-scale return were formally considered part of the uoc mp. and now there is such a creeping annexation of parishes and entire dioceses in the occupied territory, in the newly occupied territory, and unfortunately, our legislation is losing quite significantly here, it does not have time, because all kinds collaborations that are prescribed in the criminal code. unfortunately, they ignore

this church issue of church collaboration, because as a rule, next to such a split within the uoc mp, there is also direct assistance to the occupiers, for example it consists in working with children, despite the fact that our church is legally separated from the state and separated from the school, and some churchmen from such pro-russian groups are already actively working with the children's contingent, inclining them to the russian world, and this will have to be written separately in the law and i even suggested how exactly it could be written so that, without violating this separation of the state from the church, these traitors would still be punished, volodymyr. actually the text of the article of the criminal code, which was supplemented, and this very question asked what

about, for example, collaborators from the church really is this question, because when kherson region is liberated, i will remind you that this is one of the most likely directions of a counteroffensive . with the occupiers, if they have time or bear responsibility, it is very important so that no situation is repeated. thank you very much, mr. volodymyr volodymyr molchanov, a political scientist, was with us connection and i'm already greeting our next a- ah guest, and this is serhiy lagodynskyi, a member of the european parliament from germany, mr. serhiy. good afternoon. hello. do you understand ukrainian? are you comfortable if i speak ukrainian, i'm comfortable in russian because i'm sorry in ukrainian, i'm very sorry that i can't, ok, ok, i'm clearly checking if you

understand me, because i won't be able to speak german, for example, ok, that's exactly what i'll be able to do in german, if you have a pat and another child, but i i don't feel capable enough in this school , my knowledge has been around for a long time . i was told that in russian i, i, i ask for forgiveness, i apologize yes and let's start with what olaf sholt stas said that it is not necessary to block it with all the involvement of the russian federation on a-a jay himself 20 twenty and

group of twenty eh, in which, in general, until november 15, eh, should eh, eh, eh, take place in indonesia, but, nevertheless, already now, the issue of participation or non-participation of the russian delegation in including putin, and this depends on it, including the possible participation of other countries, what do you think about it ? to meet and well, let's say so, they will shout at each other or talk friend to friend, i am a small uh supporter of any uh negotiations uh at the moment there are such requests from higher ups and higher requests for slander before the uh kremlin and nevertheless we have a

lot of questions for uh -е moscow е-е including probably as for the international situation with food a-а and е-е many other questions е-е it seems to me that this is what drives е-е and the chancellor yes m-m this motivates him in that regard what if you arrange a world famine there? well, then there will be seven people who will come to this meeting . yes, 20 anyway of the leading states, i explained what is happening in general, uh, that is, this is how i understand uh, um , this is the motivation , because uh, russia has become such a spoiler, and not only a regional one, but a global one. - the critics on a-a addressed precisely to mrs. schulz, here, here, the

german media, the same spigger, for example, wrote about it quite sharply, and it was even a topic and number about what schultz promised , this is a big turn or a u-turn in the... er, in german politics, this is during the era of its er, opresskoy april's speech, which was even called historical yes, but in fact they criticized him for the fact that he said more than he actually did. germany's approaches and in general, how would we say yes to the german posture? yes, we are in international relations. in principle , a reversal has appeared. many decades - this is not the only thing that governs in the

new 70s, eh, germany was simply not filmed supplying weapons to the conflict zone. well, there may be some exceptions, and a plus to this, eh, a large amount, these are the same 100 billion, which is really the bundestag. now i have accepted the infusion into the complex, so to speak , of the army, military, military, construction , industrial complex. those are the principles which i said very often yes, i felt like i was just in some kind of a minority, first of all, in the field of plastic questions a-a nato a-a about the fact that the request should er-er, in general, build some music er- eh in order to resist eh possible russian aggression and support ukraine and other countries eh, that's between mezhdu us

as if, as if they are located a and this is all left behind what didn't remain behind this is specifics and this is why i am and er, now i am criticizing a lot, and i will hold an office especially where the promised ones are weapons and gentlemen, understanding that weapons are now - this is the alpha and omega of everything that is happening, and the solution to this issue will be only if the ukrainian side is armed enough to resist the occupier, and this understanding is how would it be, but there is still a definite lack of courage a-a building this european parliament, well, in general, and the european commission, after all, the head of the state of the european union a-a well, almost unanimously er-e that ukraine

has the right to become a-a candidate european union in record time, in fact, and it is obvious that this is a very political decision, it is clear that ukraine is not responding somewhere, it is somewhere in the worst positions, it is at the moment of receiving applications than many other countries , but how, how would it be from the other side, it is clear why , yes, and i think that ukraine probably deserves attention to this sign, but on the other hand, i wanted to ask. here is an example of a strange application in my opinion, the vice-premier from the questions just in of european integration, thank stefanyshyn for the fact that these are the seven criteria that were called necessary in order for the status of a candidate to become a candidate. it's not always what you think about it , is it really worth it, uh, frivolously, perhaps it is related to

this condition, to these family conditions, they are actually, well, necessary conditions. it seems to me that we depend on what is the goal of the final circumstance and in general, the ukrainian government, and probably the ukrainian society, if the ukrainian society as a whole - this is really serious membership in the european union and feeling like a full-fledged member of the european union, in this case, this is recognition as an eu candidate. this was only the first small layer. - the next step in this process is always the beginning of negotiations and the member's, and many people think that this actually coincides with the status of the candidate - this is the first step, and then, again, a unanimous decision of all the members of the european union of all 27 states, the question of the beginning of negotiations will be accepted before the question of the beginning of

negotiations is accepted uh, i sympathize, but that's me. they 're still yours, ah, ah. they always, uh, took away all of us, because they don't want uh, no concessions after the status of eu candidates is released in this way. there are two, as if two opportunities or this well, how would a fioznaya a-a step in terms of some perspective a-a membership in such a case, indeed, a candidate for an anturtsiya candidate in the 60s, but it seems to me that the tea house of the ukrainian society and, in principle, ukrainian everything deserved much more therefore, i would really like for us to somehow support and encourage the ukrainian government in the name of processing and working out these conditions, so that sometime in the near future

, well, in a few years, i think this is realistic, and we could start negotiations and when the negotiations begin, there are still many parallel a-a reforms that eh should be implemented eh for an answer street actions, bans, and so on, i am talking now about the stops of radio liberty, what i read that up to 200 to 200,000 russian citizens live in germany, and people who have origins or connections with russia which are already citizens are evaluated in germany, there are even more of them, about a million, that is, it is actually a large and probably influential diaspora, and on the other hand, there is also the ukrainian

and ukrainian diaspora there, including people who have now become forced migrants as a result of this war. here are the relations between these diasporas in germany, and is it really true that sometimes it seems to us here that germany unfairly favors the russian diaspora in some way, somehow infringes on ukrainians or does not protect them enough? to be honest, i don't see this here, first of all, russian propaganda is working on the masses in russia as well as in the international community , discrimination, etc., such attacks on russian speakers in germany well, in general, in the european union, i don’t see such a case . there are no such masses. there is no systemic problem. it’s a systemic problem. when the german mass media started

talking about it. it is very important to also bring this to the german society that it is in principle propaganda since there is no e-e chancellery e-e ro- russian culture of russian culture we have it here in berlin on the biggest e free e-e stage the berlin police orchestra played tchaikovsky and all the russian classics e-e that's the only thing in the big concert, in general, no one was indignant, no one prevented anything, that is, there were no clashes, no such big, so uh , problems. that's too much now i am also dealing with the topics of this contingent, of course ukrainian soldiers receive the status of the right to work much faster and easier

. to refugees from russia who are coming now for political reasons, i understand that the situations are comparable, but just so that you can start comparing the sound. yes, i don't see that. what did you say that in what way german politics encourages more or supports more russian-speaking people from ukraine and russian people from ukraine and russian people from ukraine. i just don’t see any specific signs for this. well, we were just a message about what, for example, when the symbols of the ukrainian state were prohibited . mass events so as not to provoke the russian diaspora, well, at the same time, we see that very often russians calmly use their flags, and what kind

of plural can i explain this? thought kak to make sure that the russian symbol was not used in such a way that it somehow provoked or traumatized people of ukrainian origin, therefore, one flag was impossible to ban. a-and i include ukrainian and including russian except for diplomatic missions , so the diplomatic mission of the russian embassy could use russian flags, but all other russian flags so far with russian flags a-and what are you eh and tape of st. george's ribbons eh letters z and so on. it was a long list, a pancake list of everything that was prohibited, and for constitutional reasons, other state flags were also prohibited, in particular, and ukrainian flags. that's how it turned out, but otherwise it would have been here you know, on may 9, there was a constant

sea of ​​russian flags, and a patriot fell under a drink there, and the party of trechtov fell from the others, and what happened, what happened to berlin, that there were no such express trains with russian flags, well, unfortunately , it had to be banned all thanks for explanation thank you for the conversation sergey lagodinsky, a member of the european parliament from germany, was with us since have a nice day thank you thank you well, we are continuing our er stage and actually er now we will talk a little bit about corruption actually we are continuing this topic of these demands er as you know anti-continuation of the anti-corruption reform, the fight against corruption, the appointment, in particular, of the head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, this is one of the direct requirements , one of the seven points of requirements accompanying the granting of the status of e-e to the application to ukraine the european union is actually very, very good about this . our interlocutor, the deputy, just said, i will

remind the european parliament that in ukraine we have to actually decide to decide and whether we want to, conditionally speaking, imitate the process, what do we want finally that is, we want to simulate that we are candidates and we are all such europeans, why do we really want to finally become a little bit of a european state, because we really need to be europeans, and i think that ukrainian europeans are not necessary have for this special stamp, seal, diploma, that europeans there are of the second level, the third level, the first grade, and so on and so on, and all the more so because even the parents issued diplomas, and of course, that joining the european union is a certain such usual evidence. and it still does not mean that you become someone from this, well, that is, it is already a recognition of the fact that you meet certain criteria, at least this is my opinion and not

only you see mine, and now our interlocutor is actually here and now we will talk about what i just said, ms. larisa golnyk, judge ms. larisovich, are you already with us yes yes good afternoon, we hope that he will join the conversation mr. mykhailo, who is the chairman of the board of the foundation on duty, if he is available, we will be glad to see him mr. larisa so i will start with i have a bit of a problem with the pictures. oh, now it's cool. now i see you and i'm glad about it. see what i wanted to ask . there is information that you applied. you were actually a candidate for the supreme council of justice, but did not pass the competition. and many were surprised by that. well, it seemed that if we have an example of such a principled judge who was not afraid to go into

conflict with the judicial system with his colleagues, but for the sake of justice, then this was your example, we admired it and said a lot about him. how did it happen that you did not pass the selection to the supreme council of justice well, of course, it was a very unexpected decision for me, and even more so when i saw the text of the decision itself, why was i recognized as such? it just meets the requirements of professional ethics. i was very critical of economic self-governance in the very judge to whom i was bullied, and so it is worth the second such facts, uh, we know that we have certain uh, in

such changes, parents who use against certain famous persons as for such and such as well harassing and persecuting some e-e information. some strange children embodied that kind of thing. well, after all, it became some kind of opportunity to accuse a sufficient public figure of something. well, let's say a judge is not in the same sense of a public figure as a political figure, but the judge is still my opinion. he is a special person who aspires to become a member of the communist party of ukraine. he can not sit quietly and not show his position. motivates this person and it was precisely my public

activity that was forced, let's say, by such a step as protection against the arbitrariness to which i was subject within the judiciary . persecution and so when at the ethics council i even tried to re-watch the video in part of course it hurts a little emotional as a person but i try to be objective and regarding myself i read what decisions other people were not allowed to recognize their behavior genetically then we did not cause one surprise, everything, in my opinion, the law foresees why we are here in philosophy , the introduction of such a body as the ethical council,

in general, it turned out that it was actually distorted, because the ethical council was given such powers. no to subject, well, in fact, to question everything and to check everything. and how much to check what the candidate says, and also what was established by certain state bodies, well, let's say the authorities that we do not trust, that is, the body of higher self-government , governance, the supreme council of justice, why was it dissolved because in there were double standards for her work, and we saw that some of them were strange, some of the judges were embodied, for example, judge vovka, and oh, judges of oaska, and some others for the audio, well, idiosyncratic ones that caused let's say

their behavior caused surprise in the society . at the same time, we saw others when people who held a principled position and then even the judges of the higher anti-corruption court were subjected to disciplinary proceedings and brought to disciplinary responsibility, which were then canceled by the decisions of the judges. that is we saw such a situation that the body that made certain conclusions regarding me actually these decisions were the basis for recognizing me as such that my behavior does not correspond to my profession, that's why ms. larisa, i am literally two words, what can i say, we don't have much time left, i was actually stunned by this why would i say just explain my feelings, but

ms. ulyana suprun said very well that ukrainians should not be afraid to tell the truth even if it leads to a conflict for me, suprun is a person who made a great reform and made a lot of enemies. there is such a thing as volodya petrovich. he made a huge reform with decommunization and made a lot of enemies. he was removed . he was in conflict. the fantastic rehabilitation of the banking system was carried out by poly-vacuum cleaners and finally showed who stole billions for a living and a bunch of enemies. the question is that when you live in a corrupt country that is unfair everywhere and you want to just not conflict with everyone, just say just don't conflict and say it to people who who have to select honest judges, well, it’s simple, it ’s a matter of fact, that is, it’s a problem of the worldview of ukraine in general, because, well, we won’t be europeans until we understand how plato my friend, but the truth is more expensive if

it doesn't work even for justice. if for us a friend is more expensive, it's impossible. what is he doing, he's our friend? well , we'll never be in europe, that's just why i'm real . i believe that this is very important, such a signal is very bad, well, you know, this one sounded, uh, not so much related to decisions, it was first sounded when we were active members, those who remained members of the vrp, including many questions remained in closed mode were er, they were recognized as virtuous, and er, this was the first signal . and it was already the second signal when er, i say that i, for example, was read by a detective. it seems that i may be wrong now. yarmolenko's last name was against whom the claim was. he was recognized as unscrupulous

when he was more than 10 years old. he was once a prosecutor in some district prosecutor's office, he was once brought to disciplinary responsibility. as far as i understood, he also provided explanations for this decision, but these explanations were not taken into account, it is not clear, we understand that the decisions of our state bodies should be questioned. well, the ethical council should have questioned them, but for some reason the person was recognized not in good faith. i also believe that it was a wrong decision, and this is what happened to me on june 23, on the day of the whistleblower. you know, in give me fate, there is another whistleblower, to whom there is olena zaichka, who was against this judicial reform. and she spoke out against it and was recognized as virtuous. well, you don’t say

that you passed the order, mr. zhenakov, in particular, wrote the opinion of two other candidates in good faith on who could not explain the presence of powerful , huge fortunes well, they simply could not, people wrote there is tai and there is and such and such well, otaka, here is the story well , unfortunately, we will already be sure about what this is, we have very little time left well, can he good good then very - very short questions, we have less than a minute left, what do you think or what should we do now in this situation, let's do something positive, let's be in this situation, there is a statement from public organizations of experts. i hope that the expert council can react and review again because in fact, the questions that were thrown at me regarding unethical behavior were not grounds for providing me with explanations; in fact, we did not interrupt and were not given to justify why this happened

. thank you very much. i will work on the air relay together with the editors. there is news about the most important things in a few moments, in particular, about the fact that the g7 countries have approved new sanctions against russia, so how much, in particular , will inflation increase in the country of the russian nazis, i will tell you about it and not only stay with us, but i will start with the fact that in kherson occupiers everything