uh, they hear us, our direct voice, not through anyone, not through intermediaries. that is, in this case, we are not the object of international politics, we have it ourselves , let's continue. how much will it take, president zelenskyi instead said that he would like to end this war by the end of winter, because there is a risk that it will drag on for longer, and i am here to tell myself that in fact, of those politicians who actually spoke in including mr. zelenskyi, and none of them was in this position at the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war in 2014, not even a labor member became prime minister in the 15th year, and this shows that democracy has one small flaw. well, if you can call it a disadvantage, it is the fact that the government is constantly changing and leaders may come with a

slightly different agenda, we know that the same macron, for example, no longer has a majority in the national assembly. well, and so on, we see how support for trump, for example, in the united states, then as uh, putin uh, was and wants to be further, so this is the moment, i’m asking you for a card, because the platform uh, which has a colossal importance uh, for the generation of such strategic decisions, coordination, and so on , you can even talk a lot in such situations interesting words from the point of view of diplomacy, but it is necessary to remember that there will be a continuation of nato and everything that was discussed at j7, it will be transferred to a large extent in the decision and in the new strategy that promises to be announced from tottenberg would er

consider er jasoven as a very convenient one a sample material for that aa for conversations and decisions regarding, uh, regarding the guarantees of our uh, security, uh, this topic, you understand, it will be hot in our country, and the expressions are completely different, sometimes very strange, some such proposals are there. is it china or israel yes, but nevertheless, i would like to emphasize the fact that it is the decision, because it is they who should be perceived by ukraine. as you know, justin, yes, this tuning is a guide, and i did not see anything conspiratorial there, i did not see anything alarming . did not see zelenskyi's words about december is the right month, it is to some extent

psychological to push us to decide on the supply of more weapons to us, by the way, i have to say, what do you see and the register, no, yes , you and natovsky yourself, yes, what madrid will be interested in. to look at their progression, yes, at the nato ones, it already seems to be the third in our country, on the 20th-25th, yes, it was february. then it was in march, and here mudrivskyi, with each such step, nato, well, pretty quickly crystallizes its own the vision itself is a threat to russia, and to china, how is this such an e-e connection a combination of systemic threats and military threats eh hmm i still believe and hope somewhere intuitively i feel that the jayce meeting and

biden’s participation there and the behavior of johnson, jacko , so on and so forth, all of this will finally erase any skepticism from ukraine, first of all germany from the side of france. i have a lot to say here, but time is short, so i still believe that this one is still alive . correct strategic decisions as a result of helping us, we literally have a minute left, very, very briefly, i am asking you to simply react, er, joanna, deputy sotenberg, the secretary general of er, nato said that he does not think that and does not consider fair criticism from the official kyiv regarding the fact that

nato is not enough and nato countries are helping ukraine , what do you think about this, or is it really not worth changing the rhetoric of the kyiv authorities, viktor , let's be very brief here, in fact, they have constantly stated that it is not related to the russian-ukrainian war and they continue to broadcast this rhetoric, that is, there is nothing new here regarding weapons, of course we would like the alliance member countries to supply us with more weapons . this is such an aggressive uh effort uh to pawn these

countries as needed well okay well uh um well they say very briefly a little is everything okay with this rhetoric well we are now in such a phase of some psychosis in connection with the war of course she is against this background, we always want more and to the maximum, uh, here are the rates of arms supply from the west. we are looking for some political undertones in them, but we see objectively that nato and these countries were not preparing for such a large-scale war, because the concept of the un has changed in a local war, a technological war, where some kind of technology was quickly used, here we have a front of 2300 km, you understand, and we have against us in the area of ​​3,000 self-propelled guns and so on from the russian side. here i see an objective reason well, mr. president zelenskiy, of course you need to shout, fight and push, but it is possible to look for some other ways, and not just a-ah, not just

uh-uh, you are quite right, sometimes aggressively and too insistently to talk about it, but then again, we warring countries should realize this, and the west should also realize it. thank you, mr. viktor. thank you, mr. makar . thank you for the conversation. large in the mall in fact, there were more than a thousand visitors, and here you can see the footage, this is an official video, a fire is burning , it is obvious that there are a large number of dead , it is not clear why it was chosen this very object is this shopping and entertainment center of kremenchuk in the center of the city, the firemen are now trying to put out the fire a-and again there is not even an approximate estimate of the number of injured victims, it is obvious

that it is many, many people a-and now the air alarm continues in poltava in the poltava region, and please, a poltava resident actually put it to this is as much as possible, of course, they are already writing to me that there is a repulse in the poltava region in the sumy region. now only the alarm continues. so the people of sumy should also be careful. you see these footage, a terrible video, a civilian object was chosen for attack, it is not that it is free, it is a place of gathering people of civilians this is this this is this again i repeat the mall this is such terrible information now we will continue to report on the events in kremenchuk the question is why why do you actually need to close and quickly and evacuate during these malls for example in

shopping malls in various places are crowded because this is such a danger that russia will shell even completely civilian objects. she is, and this is how it looks now. we can only look at this with horror, we sympathize with everyone who kremenchuk, we are worried about you. well, in the meantime, we will continue anyway. we will return to this topic in our next single news releases. here is what i want to say in the meantime . they are already writing a lot about this on social networks. they are all for now, we can... show tell here wrote written by the mayor of the city in italy maletskyi on facebook rashista talk in hell together with all

the relevant services i am at the scene of the tragedy the mayor writes here are the details he promised to inform later the poltava regional military administration here is such a word such information is unfortunately sad for us good andriy osadchuk to us a people's deputy of ukraine is joining, maybe maria, it is also from berlin, he will join us if there is such an opportunity. good day to you, andrii. well, i can't, i have to start with the fact that it's just now took place in kremenchuk. perhaps you already know the news that russian rockets landed just in the mall, a shopping and entertainment center where there were up to a thousand people. only the first estimates are clear that there are many victims. the fire is burning. now they are trying to put it out, and what do you think

about it? contact now with andriyem and andriy shevchuk actually if if you saw these shots in kremenchuk your reaction as a deputy as a ukrainian politician as a ukrainian citizen is happening right now we have problems with communication let's be sure we will try to re-recruit mr. andriy, maybe even ms. maria, his new one will be with us, well, everything is a war, the war continues, no one anywhere in ukraine is protected. unfortunately, from these absolutely barbaric shelling of russian russian troops, russian er,

russian ballistic missiles, russian cruise missiles, that's how they fight with ukraine unfortunately , that is, killing the civilian population below or just the infrastructure, this is a modern horde, they are not doing anything new, they did the same thing in the 13th century when they burned kyiv, in fact, these are the only ones can i give a comment about the fact that more than 1,000 civilians were in this shopping and entertainment center, this has already been confirmed by president zelensky himself, he has already made an appeal. this is what he says about the fact that russia continues to show its impotence, the citizens should hope for adequacy and the humanity of her side was added by president zelenskyi in vain. well, there is also the

comment of the head of the poltava military administration, dmytro lunin. he said that the missile attack on the shopping center with people in kremenchuk is another war crime by the russians, a crime against humanity, it is not a hidden cynical act of terror against the civilian population, russia, a terrorist state, we are waiting for a preliminary assessment of how many people could be killed and injured as a result of this missile strike. this is how our information hour ends, unfortunately. we will continue to monitor what is happening in kremenchuk. well, in the meantime, maybe we will still try to talk about the fact that in russia, for example, today the day also began ah -good news for us, bad news for them in russia, for the first time since 1918, the default is sovereign, they are not were able to pay their debts. this is what it will actually

mean for russia in the future in the long term. we will also try to make these estimates. well, i can already say that here i am. i have already read vladyslava rozhkova's the executive director of the international monetary fund mission about what, well, at least for russia, this will mean. well, not only that they will not be able to borrow money now, it is clear that they are not right now, no one is giving them money, but they will not be able to, uh, for a very, very long time even after the end of the war, there is somewhere to borrow this money that is, the russian economy will continue to fall for a very, very, very, very long time even after the end of the war. well, what about ukraine? of course, the recovery of the economy will be explosive . they predict that ukraine will be able to restore its indicators in just a couple of years. well,

from now on, we will have to quickly catch up with poland, for example, which in 30 years actually increased its gdp five times, unlike us, and this is also of course huge the question of our homework that we didn't do well, returning to the criteria put forward in particular for ukraine as a candidate for the european union, this is a very simple question: do we want to live better than what we want? well done and well done. we consider you to be candidates . of course, this is not a candidacy. these are to be a full-fledged country where there is a legal system, where there is economic freedom, where there is a well- developed business, therefore not any business on business oligarchs, what are they carving up the land and using it to make some semi-finished products and sell them somewhere in china, no, this is a business that is innovative, that moves forward, these are inventions, some technological

breakthroughs, that 's all. i hear you well. i congratulate you now. i wanted you to comment on the missile strike, the barbaric missile strike by the russians on the shopping center in kremenchuk, well, friends. why comment here? it has been a long time since war in the military sense is a confrontation. it is already it is frankly barbaric, this is a mass murder of civilians , unfortunately, it happens all the time and judging by this, it will continue, there is nothing strange on the part of the russians, i don't see it, they did it, they will do it for all of us. this is just another lesson that war is going on, war is near us would not be in any part of our country and when

there is an air alert we have to go to a safe place we have to stop joking about it because i have been watching kyiv for the last couple of weeks well the people have relaxed so much this is obvious but when yesterday we woke up to terrible explosions and you will understand that the explosions were there 1.5 km and 2 km from the baptismal font. that is, to put it mildly, this place is close to the center, so this all indicates that the war is happening every day, every hour, and we are all fighting . we are all fighting for that we all have to both help each other and protect each other young actually i also wanted to say that today when we say that ukraine has received this historic chance regarding the candidate 165 days seems to be how long we have been going to this i mean it is some there well there is absolutely a record, there is a question about what we are all certainly aware that it is to a large extent the merit of the armed forces of ukraine that we got it and the

volunteer movement there and so on. a lot of time that the window of opportunity for no one is always open and that and in the context of this, well, that is, because we must surely understand that there will be changes, including governments, for example, it seems to us now that something in us is not strong, very strongly supports but we do not we know who will come next, not to mention france, where we roughly know who might come, not to mention the united states, where we roughly know who might come to replace biden. these are absolutely real threats, and the fact is that we don't have very much time for that. in this sense, i ask you to comment, and the first thing is when they say that let's talk about reforms after the end of the war, and when today ms. stefanyshyn, i am mentioning her for the third time today, i can. she already has hiccups. does the vice prime minister say in his profile that well,

if we do not fulfill the conditions of the application, our candidacy will not be taken away from us, it is not a big deal, yes, our candidacy will not be taken away, and we can continue then this thesis phrase and we will remain candidates for the next 20 years because there have already been such precedents in the european union. you know, let’s give three , too. i’ll say the main ones. you started with the fact that someone there doesn’t like us and various political changes are possible in the political camps of our allies. i generally tend to think that now the whole the democratic world is facing extremely dramatic tests, because the war in ukraine and the success of the war in ukraine became a question of whether liberal governments are supported in the countries of our allies, because it seems that if, god forbid, the war will unfold in

the interests of the russian federation, it will end with populists will come to power in european countries and in america we know who can come to power very easily and this will not only lead to the collapse of the opposition of the russian federation, it will lead to the collapse of western democracy in general. therefore, now the issue of victory in the war with russia is a seamless issue of preserving the western order of life in western countries. this is the first second. during the development of the european union, i did not pay such a huge price for candidacy ah, but of course it should also be considered as something that, for example, they gave you in schools to some very cool university . an opportunity to learn, but if you do not pass the

ek when you get good grades, your reports are simply cleaned and i am absolutely convinced that there will be no concessions and benefits for ukraine, because we are talking about the standards of this club, there are no shades of gray, there must be absolutely clear things, absolutely clear compliance promises and standards and it must be done, we will not do it and if we postpone it, the consequences will actually be much worse than remaining in the status of a candidate and never becoming a member of what we have now a completely different reality. you have probably already all discussed and you know that we need at least 100 billion from 200 billion dollars to rebuild the country, no one will ever give money to ukraine if ukraine does not adhere to democratic standards, so the price of abandoning reforms now is very simple, it is not just a candidate or

not, the loss of resti will be a member. this is a loss of the opportunity to rebuild ukraine, therefore all ukrainian politicians and managers who are in charge now will be in charge in the future. it is clear that the teams will change they will be very different people, they must understand one thing that if we continue the practices of the past, deceive, do not keep our words, play our own games, then it will end in a very sad story, we will simply remain in ruins, he will not be able to rebuild ukraine, therefore, realizing this should put the maximum responsibility on everyone who took on the leadership of this country. i remain an optimist. i really hope that we will get out of this situation, make the right political decisions and ensure the opportunity for business to work to rebuild the country because this is the only way we can turn ukraine into a normal place for normal people to live, but a huge responsibility rests on the

leaders who will be more obliged to do all this . this is the marshal's latest plan, and we are here . in this context, there was a conversation so long ago with mr. pavel sheremet, who was the minister of economic development and trade during the first year and tenure of poroshenko in the government. uh, in the government of the first szczecin, he said a very good, very good thing about the fact that i think it is very correct, about the fact that when people talk about the marshall plan in our country, you need to understand that at the time the marshall plan was received by several countries, this amount of aid was divided the most interesting thing in percentage terms, austria received at that time and it seems to have been, i don't remember exactly, the number of a few percent

of the gdp of the country at that time, and actually if you transfer this amount now in dollars in c- in sums in figures at the current exchange rate of the 22nd year, it will turn out that we in fact, since the beginning of the war, we have received more aid than back then, austria just received aid to someone every month, now we will not receive it, we have already received a couple of marshall plans, and when this realization came, in fact, we all here already know that. do and so on , this is the first moment and the second is that, in fact, this recovery was at the expense of these countries themselves, but at the same time, with that plan, with that money , management practices were exported doing business, taxation practices from the united states, that is, these countries were to a certain extent their way of doing business and public administration was modernized to the standards that were already dominated by the united states , so what are you forgetting? well, you know, i think

it is not at all correct to compare the marshall plan, which was after the second world war and with plans to rebuild ukraine, first of all sumy will fix and we have already received huge support from the world of the european union of america and these are facts and all those who start there to tell us that they didn't give us much. they should, i'm sorry , shut your mouth, because if it weren't for western support, you would probably have already lost, but we also have to understand that after the second world war, the infrastructure in europe was massively destroyed, but there was institutional credit, state management, there were high-quality bureaucrats who knew how to manage how to work and so on, there were no destroyed state institutions, in the case of ukraine, the situation is absolutely diametrically opposed to how weak the institutions were before the war began, that's how they are they remain as we had defective management practices, let's call it that. they are not

better yet, so once again, no one in ukraine will give 100 billion or 200 or however many people fantasize, because it can only be a partnership event we are obliged to create the conditions in ukraine so that big capital can work here at the expense of this resource and it will be possible to rebuild the country and the third i, for example , categories of ot and in general of this rhetoric, so that we rebuild ukraine at the expense of taxpayers of austria, germany, great britain or this is an absolutely wrong approach of the united states . ukraine should be rebuilt at the expense of the resources of the russian federation. there are two obvious sources, these are seized assets, and you know that we have already reached a decision on canada together, when the seized russian assets will be sent to compensate for the losses of ukraine, but this practice must be spread throughout to other countries and this is a huge source for

the recovery of ukraine, and secondly, i think it is necessary to consider the possibility of using further trade in russian hydrocarbons, which will are definitely needed, but which can be sold through some special trust fund where most of the profits would go to the repayment of russian debts to ukraine. that is, it is much smarter than simply introducing a full embargo for a decade and getting rid of the possibility of this resource in general. i think these options are necessary consider, because in any case, relying on the fact that we will sit on the necks of taxpayers is, i think, a rather naive and hopeless scheme, therefore, one way or another, it all boils down to one thing, we have not just to win and the external enemy and kill the russian federation from the territory of ukraine, and we must simultaneously build trust with our allies by

building institutions so that ukraine is an ideal place for investment, as before the war ukraine was grammatically underinvested . when we will ensure the rule of law, anti-corruption work, corporate governance in the public sector, all that we have been talking about for years and all that is actually written in the seven points put forward by the european union and there are literally two minutes left regarding the fact that russia still defaulted today, does this have any practical consequences for russia? well, for us, of course, well, look, we are all always waiting for some kind of miracle, we always hope that there is some way that can even some immediate effect on the ability of the russian federation to wage war or provide itself economically, but the

russian bear is big, it is quite fat, they have quite a lot of reserves, therefore, this is a strategy of a huge number of strikes that are applied to russia from all sides, i think it works and from this point of view the default is of course it does not have any kind of immediate effect, but in the long-term perspective it is another drop that creates huge problems for the russian federation in ensuring the functioning of its economy in general. in evaluating the help of the west in ukraine, we also have to thank the actions of the amount of sanctions that have already been imposed on the russian federation, because these are really absolutely unprecedented steps that i hope in the future somewhere for sure by the end of this year will have a very significant effect, which should affect the

inability of the russian federation to invest. svobody ah well, me too. thank you for watching us. i don't know how many seconds we have left, and then we'll see each other tomorrow at the same time. andriy serhiychuk was with you. thank you for watching our marathon well, i'll pass on my word to my colleague in prague. bloomberg announced the first russian default and foreign debt since 1918. how will this affect the kremlin's ability to wage war in ukraine ?