nobody wants to deal with them and nobody can deal with them. after that, we decided that we would do everything to get such people out of the shelling and from hot spots. that's how we came to this. so far, we have already evacuated more than six hundred people. for each person, we build routes. we guide this person from the beginning to the end. once again, i want to thank the lviv regional emergency hospital. they always accept our patients who need medical treatment, and so on. already we deal with the population of these people, we understand that we are talking about hot spots, which cities are these, which ones can you name, which ones are , which ones were the hottest, and uh, or, well, people, what

is their condition, if not, sometimes they do not require such urgent help even during evacuation, well look, we had cases when a person sat in the basement for more than six months, four months, it's terrible for every person, well , a lonely person who is lying down, the neighbors took him down to the basement and the person can't see any light for the whole time, what kind of condition can he have it's a bad condition, it's a difficult condition, such people are usually hospitalized right away, how are you, where are you , where do you get resources for your activities, how do you help the questions about where do we evacuate this from, we started with lysychansk and

severodonetsk, then it was bakhmut e- also, we evacuated another hospice that was located in the city of yar, next to bakhmut, and there were 10 people lying down, completely lying down and motionless. their of permanent residence, did you see these frames, the photos were just shown on the air by the way, they were doctors from germany, uh, from england who helped us, who agreed to take all our uh, patients, for which they have a huge thank you, i am asking such a thing now, i know that well, volunteers also, for example , save animals from these places of shelling, they also

take them out, what do you think about it, if you are primarily engaged in the removal of people, do you not succeed in this waste, you took responsibility, the animal is like your child she he can't take care of himself and is a wasteful person. this ca n't be your friend. this is your child. what people organized on their own, uh, there are official shelters and we always take food there, we uh, we once

saw such a picture. because you know in fact, the answer is that people who outwardly say that human life is important, but animals are less important. this is true, but on the other hand, in practice, it turns out that for such people, as a rule, human life is also unimportant, that is, our humanity towards animals demonstrated by ukrainians and ukrainian volunteers, it also means even more humanity towards people, this is important, there is such a situation that there is one woman in er, lysychansk, she sheltered more than 50 dogs that er, which people left on the street, she also goes to feed them ugly dogs near the house if you don't feed them imagine what will happen to this dog in a month eh if she doesn't eat anything she will turn into a preparation and just start attacking people

unfortunately this is a fact parameters we don't have any more time to talk tell me please, what should be done in order to e-e acquaintance, relative, or actually that person to be taken out of the hot spot now, how can you be reached by people with few mobile phones, and also tell me how you can help those who are watching us now and want to help your charity fund you can help, the first and most necessary thing is please, and this is a request to the authorities, sort out the places where we can accommodate people, or give us , please, a list, a list, tell us where to turn so that they give us a list of free places, for example, cherkasy there three places kyiv 10 places we will be able to help evacuate people second how you can help us on our facebook page eh there are details if there is an opportunity please transfer

the funds they will go to the evacuation of people with reduced mobility if eh there is an opportunity please give us animal feed, we will take it away, we will definitely provide you with everything from there, we will show you everything, and the third is to call us on the hotline 08332 480 and we will be able to help you or evacuate, but we are planning an evacuation in the near future. sorry, in a week or two, it is not known yet, because we are still processing all the possible options where we can place people, thank you for your work, for your volunteer activity, dmytro maksymovych, you need the freedom trust charity fund and i hope this was useful information for those who he's looking at us today and let's move on pavlo rozenko minister of social policy of ukraine in 14-16 years vice president of the red cross

of ukraine with us today mr. pavly good morning i congratulate you unfortunately every time but we still think that after all, today will be good and the following mornings will also be good for the majority of ukrainians. well, one way or another, every morning we look with optimism to the next day . that i see no reason to be a pessimist in the war. especially in the war, and this seems to me to be very correctly said. i immediately wanted to start a little bit on the topic of the exchange. in fact, there was information that the russians actually announced that they would not exchange prisoners of war. to exchange

ukrainian prisoners, this information comes from the head of the investigative committee of the russian federation, alexander bastrykin, which is emphasized by my fontanka, and then it goes on to say that they decided not to give it up. that's what he said that they thought that they will hand them over, they will be sent back to their families , not to temporary detention centers , to the pretrial detention center, but he stated that they arrived accordingly, i don’t know somewhere, the russian federation of ukrainian prisoners of war, actually the defenders of azov, and this was actually a certain answer to the statements of kyrylo budanov, who said about that in the near future they hope that a large number of ukrainian prisoners will be released, well , first of all, i want to say that i do not have any

official information that the russian side the official stated in the negotiation process about the refusal of the exchange of prisoners of war, i don't know. it seems to me that it is bastriking in this process, the participation of active prisoners, yes, this is really a situation that is connected with the negotiation process of the ukrainian side from the russian side, and i think that all the same, bastrykin's words are an increase of some stakes in the negotiation process, this is a kind of blackmail from the ukrainian side. regarding the exchange of prisoners, i think that this process will continue, i just want to remind you that the last exchange prisoners took place literally either yesterday or the day before yesterday, that is, literally the other day. therefore, this process continues constantly, but definitely. it is very

difficult, definitely that the agreements are not always followed. there is a very big issue, especially the sensitive issue regarding the exchange of our servicemen who were in the territory of azovstal and, as far as i know, so far that the process is going very hard there, and among those who have been released recently, these heroes of ours were not there, only the exchange of the bodies of the dead was carried out, russian from the ukrainian side, that's why this one the process is not easy, this process continues and i honestly do not have any information yet somehow it stops if we talk about uh different international organizations, including the

red cross. some representative offices in russia a-a well, first of all, you correctly use the words to contribute or help in some way because the powers and capabilities of international organizations starting from the un, concluding with the international committee of the red cross, is currently very limited, because in fact these issues of the exchange of prisoners of war are regulated by relevant international documents, in particular, the document is the geneva convention on the agreement with the military on the treatment of prisoners of war, and it is clearly written there that all obligations all maintenance obligations under the negotiation process are borne by the two

sides of the conflict, as it is written there . the responsibility and the entire effectiveness of the prisoner exchange process depends on the ukrainian and russian parties who conduct this negotiation process among themselves. international organizations, according to the geneva conventions, can assume a certain role and place in this situation, either regarding the treatment of prisoners of war or during the exchange of prisoners of war, but only under one condition, if both parties agree to this, unfortunately, this does not always happen, and we see how, first of all, the russian side is blocking the activity international organizations, there are also facts of non-admission

of representatives of urban international organizations to prisoners of war, but again, i say this, unfortunately, it falls within the framework of those normative acts of the geneva convention that exist today. therefore, it is obvious that i also hope that this active military action, what is happening today in the humanitarian plan and all these inconsistencies and all these collisions that arise in the process of protecting people's rights, they will become the basis for revising the founding documents of the organization of the united nations that eh well, nothing has changed there since the 1940s since the 1950s, times have changed and it is probably time to give more rights and opportunities to independent non -political and neutral international organizations

to participate in processes, including those regarding prisoners of war yes, we don't have much time left, but i would also like to ask mr. pavlo about this assistance, which from the end of april was actually supposed to be about uah 2,500, and which can be received, in particular, through one person, in the case of forced resettled persons. please tell me from whom can definitely apply for it and what to do those who do not have, for example, this, there is help, there is support, and it is simply banal, through a smartphone, these people can calculate as well as receive, first of all, i want to say right away that the red cross of ukraine does not collect any lists, well, i say this right away, that's why that there is a lot of fake information today, in particular, some scammers are trying to extort personal data from people, as if under the brand of the red

cross, which provides help to the otaku, the souvenirs came from my mother, this came from someone a well-known bank that they say you are sending something there and even there a fake page of the bank was made, only a fake page was sent there, so i immediately warn that we do not collect any personal data, we do not directly pay out assistance here, the ministry of social policy and territorial affairs deals with the collection of all issues regarding payments of these benefits, contact the social security offices and form registers that we will pay the benefits, the only thing that we have now decided is that we will increase the payment of this we are extending the assistance for three months. for certain categories of people, it is in particular forced migrants

from among people with disabilities, as well as families with many children, as well as low-income families. therefore, we are extending our support to forced migrants and we will continue to help them, as well as other people, through the help of humanitarian aid, through the rescue of people and today, unfortunately , the terrible morning for mykolaiv began again today. to date, we have three dead and five seriously injured as a result of a rocket attack on a residential mykolaiv building, and our red cross volunteers are working there today, that is, contact the social security offices, contact us, and we will help everyone who needs it to the best of our ability. thank you for this important explanation. really, be careful not to fall into the hands of fraudsters who became active during wars you know

who war who in principle cares thank you very much pavlo rozenko to me this is the social policy of ukraine in 14-16 years and the vice president of the red cross of ukraine was in direct contact with us mr. pavlo actually asked mykolaiv, we are also trying to get in touch. i will remind you that this morning mykolaiv, the ukrainian regional center, was hit by a rocket attack, and unfortunately, a man and a woman were killed as a result of this shelling. a rocket hit a multi-story residential building and people died. since the very morning, unfortunately, unfortunately, the rocket attacks do not stop, unfortunately, these deaths among the civilian population do not stop, and just now, mykolaiv, serhii samokov, a volunteer, is joining us. morning good morning, and i understand what i understand, so the

morning is not very good for mykolaiv, unfortunately, there is a question of its own. well, mykolayiv is constantly coming, they used to fire at the toilet and the toilet with a manpads system, and now the last week, well, every day, every day , skoda rockets are being fired somewhere in the kherson region , we know, yesterday, they interfered with the stadium today they hit a residential building, there is a wounded person, there is a dead person , you already said that, that is, it is actually an untargeted shelling, but the city is just being shelled, it is so terrorist, it should be called terrorist because the shelling is going on in different areas of the city, you know and you don’t know where it will fly to

your house tomorrow, and tomorrow it can there is another one and where it flies and i am done there where there is a cluster, a large cluster of houses, people live there and you see shelling in our place, for some reason in the morning people are sleeping, people are in their homes well, just yesterday today at six o'clock in the morning like that well, how does this affect the life of the city in principle? let me ask such a banal question as how do the residents of the city know, i'll tell you yes, mykolaivites already, well, it's impossible to get used to shelling, it's impossible to get used to the fact that you don't understand what will become of you and their family tomorrow, but people are holding on. well, they don't need russia, and they understand who is doing it. they understand what russia is doing. they understand that the cities must be defended. nobody is going to surrender. more than half of the population left the city. they have eight, but in my opinion, more than half do not have, so there is no such humanitarian disaster because

there is already water, do you want technical water? you remember that we had almost no water in mykolaiv for a month. all of ukraine helped us. they transported water, uh, before the water main was damaged, now there is water because it is technical, but it is, well, it is much better than it was, drinking water is brought to almost every yard, and there people will collect what can be cooked there and so on, and technical taxes are flowing in the taps well, thank you very much mr. sergey literally a word and i understand correctly that you were actually an eyewitness of this morning hit yes-yes-yes today there was a morning group hit in a residential building and there is a dead person there were injured you said three well yes well the administration relayed that three men were killed six suffered, but uh, the work continues, well, actually, ok, then i won’t make any clarifications, thank

you very much for being able to share with us the results of this morning's shelling , he named the number of three dead already. i was just saying about two, there may be more recent information , and we will follow it. well, we are moving on, our marathon continues. oleksandra romanova, the executive director of the center for civil liberties, will join us soon, let's try to talk about enough such a story as filtration or can they be called concentration and camps that were opened in the occupied territories of russia, in general, it is actually about everything that the russian federation is doing in the occupied territories in the temporarily occupied territories of the ukrainian state, how does it treat the civilian population

to the civilian population? well, in fact, we can probably draw some parallels, how is it different from what they did 80 years ago in the occupied ukrainian lands, too? we will see the warmth of me it seems that this war is still good that it finally united the east and the west , including that understanding and that is, that it is still the occupying power and that russia is definitely not a brother, not a friend, but the occupier, it is now today became somehow united. because earlier this issue was more of a dividing line because, after all, ukrainians really had different experiences when they were in different territories, today this experience is common. and actually the presence of this common enemy is some kind of new unifying factor. it seems to me that among them, at least part of the national unifying ideas is oleksandr romanov, executive director of the center for

civil liberties . it's evening soon, and it's still morning. but i keep reminding myself, mrs. oleksandr, first of all, what i want to ask is that it is known that the russians have already created more than 20 filtration camps in the occupied territories. well, when we say this filtration camp, what does it actually look like, how do you study this issue there are finally testimonies of people who, despite all this about filtering, the truth is that we are wrong because they did not want to stay and also somehow they managed to leave the territory of russia, already from russia, in fact, and they share their impressions, so what exactly are we we know what this filter operation camp looks like from the inside, in fact, filter camps are different . they sometimes differ even depending on

the mood of the manager or the person who accepts you, and there from threats of rape for girls, especially young ones, to forcing almost all men to undress and in relation to girls, this also happens for that reason, they say that in order to find out if there are tattoos, i confirm that if you become on these or something like that, but less of a topic, we understand that this is one of you, one of the species, in fact humiliation and er there is always a check of phones, and certain programs are used that restore what was deleted a long time ago, that is, they try to find files that even confirm your contact with the armed forces or the sbu, sometimes anything related to ukraine, in fact, with, for example , such a flag like mine already makes them

angry and their own desire to send you to a filtration camp er there are cases when families passed more or less calmly i don't know what happened in this case or i don't know they ate well those who accepted them or something but almost always there is an extortion of uh or things of expensive things that people often take with them with the possibility that if they run out of money, for example, to sell or something like food, just elementary sausages, well, that is, there is an absolutely senseless process, because this filtering has already been done for a long time - for a long time, no one believes, and when denazification stopped even being heard from the russian federation, so this is actually just one of the varieties of bullying of people who are trying to save themselves and their families and are interested in leaving because of the territory of the russian federation, etc. unfortunately, we know of cases when people disappeared from

communication contacts after that, at the moment we consider them missing without a letter, we really hope that these are still not cases of extrajudicial cases, eh, further, if a person did not pass such filtering, and more often than all this happens with men, i go to so- called infiltration camps, most often it is either a children's camp or a kindergarten or a children's school, that is, the love of the russian federation for the use of protected objects according to the international by humanitarian law, any educational institution is protected eh, well, this is just a magical systematic violation of human rights and a war crime directly, so in these filtration camps , people are in terrible conditions. we managed to save at least some phone with a

video camera and we have a short video of how people live there without normal living conditions, if someone is sick, and we have already had confirmed cases of tuberculosis, for example, of people who were this person was kept in one room, for example, al was quarantined, in fact, it was just a gym without any equipment, even without a normal place to sleep, uh, he was kept in this gym for more than a week just so that there would be contact with the person, uh, if we are talking about the medical support of that person there is also no everyone with whom we had contact, who is now trying to choose from the russian federation through europe or through the countries of central asia or the south caucasus, that is why they all say that the terrible feeding conditions of the spread of e-e in including the spread of infectious diseases, this is in addition to the fact that men

are usually called for questioning almost every day, and very often there is not only abuse, but also physical pressure, including beatings, of course, no one after that beating also does not provide medical aid. that is, it is a full-fledged, as it were, counter-camp in the sense that it is called a filtering camp, but the only single sign by which you can be filtered is your own belonging to the ukrainian proactive position, that is, in fact, this is in international humanitarian law has an understanding of genocide, genocide of a certain group, not always genocide , er, genocide is actually carried out in relation to an ethnic or religious group, for example, silver , it was also a religious sign and age, and the fact that it was men of military age, muslims yes,

for example, well, terrible an average tragedy is more than 7,000 dead. that is, in fact, in the future , most likely, it will be developed by the russian federation - it will spread to a full legal understanding of genocidal facts, what remains literally less than two minutes ago, i just want to clarify. well, just from the testimony of those people who somehow managed to escape there. well, for example, there is mr. andrii marusyu marusov himself, who is actually the fact that they found something on his phone there, for him it meant that they wanted to shoot him they just wanted to shoot him without a trial and without an investigation , and he was literally lucky that there was a change of mood and you were also found to have engaged in hostilities. they end up in psychiatric camps, yes. also, i repeat, unfortunately, we still have cases when

relatives inform us that they went through filtering together. women are usually let through, especially very. by the way, they treat children very harshly. of social workers or people who can support the child at this moment, they start questioning to find the difference between the information given by the parents and the child, respectively the women passed the filtering, the man disappeared and actually this is another complication because they were driving a car and, accordingly, the driver was the man, er, that is, they could not move on according to their planned route, and there are such cases. we really hope that after all threats of executions are threats and they have some plan, i don't know, maybe for legal charges for people who are sent to

filtration camps, but still not for