bag, please, to any of our companies, we are ready to receive you and hear your answers to all these questions, because we objectively wanted to and we want to hear it and people want to hear it, so please find 5 minutes to turn on the marathon on the air, thank you. well, oleksiy how do you very briefly see the history with the possibility of canceling these debts, well, in my opinion, in general, what we do not have now is a position regarding debt cancellation, it can be called financial looting in a simple such expression, that is, during the war, to pay off foreign debts. well, that’s it. some ah, absolute aa well, no, it's not the state's position, because well, if we look at the history of restructuring in general, and he's trying to tell us that it's very bad. this default and so on are actually within the framework of the so -called london cube of creditors - these are private companies of the paris club of creditors - these are debts in front of other states and international financial organizations, and such revealed that

hundreds of restructurings of hundreds of e were carried out for about 90 countries, that is, over the last 30 years, the country generally used much smaller devices for write-off well, for example, argentina in the 20th year wrote off 40% of its debts, arguing that there is now a coronavirus crisis and they wrote off 40% of their debts, they signed a corresponding agreement with creditors, they should lower the interest rate with us in general , eh, a colossal geopolitical force -majeure that is , this is a classic force majeure situation, the war, huge losses for the economy, and the loss of territory, the occupation of the territory, and in these conditions, yes, this is a temporary loss, but now these are assets. they are not working to repay debts, a huge amount refugees, that is, millions of people have left the country. that is, we have lost our economic potential

. in my opinion, the position of ukraine should be restructuring, that is, we need to write off at least 50 percent, that is, half of the debts, and the second is restructuring, that is, delaying the payment of the debt seizure for somewhere between 15-20 years and the third but the reduction of the coupon rate, that is, the servicing of these debts there is seven percent to at least one or two, but we need to at least start conducting this discussion, it is necessary to start it, unfortunately, the minister of finance says that we have a huge budget deficit and we will be forced to increase taxes and reduce government spending, and in a paragraph he says that we do not have any problems with paying the foreign debt, but we have. i have such a conspiratorial version. i think that in fact the discourse is about restructuring of debts, it can be dominated in ukraine after september of this year. why because in september, a huge repayment of debts for somewhere around 2 billion dollars ukraine has to graze, these are the so-called euro plates eurobands, now on the secondary market they are sold with a yield of 250%. that is, we can enter the fantastic

profitability that a person who knows whether these things will be repaid will not be. so, when this amount will be repaid. it seems to me that we will start talking about the restructuring of our slot, we can say that without taxes, well, the state it simply cannot exist, especially during a war, and it is good to hope for the support of international partners, they help us so much, they say , defend and also deter the russian invasion on your territory. without it, there is simply no economy should work, business should work to make money. well, we will continue in a few minutes. i think that we have finished this topic, and we have talked about europlates and the cancellation of benefits for we have dealt with the national debt and the main thing is that it is clear that printing money is not so scary, so don't rush to these pro-kremlin throw-ins, and this is terrible. associations have to do this for the rest of their lives in

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returns to the air with you night watch and we continue the topic of banning abortions, it always causes heated discussions in society. some say that it's a woman's right to dispose of her body, no one has the right to tell her what to do with it, well, in particular, i spoke with representatives of the church and they give their arguments on this matter and they are very interesting. outline the ban on abortions for women and how it concerns us, you and me, and what difficulties ukrainian women who had to flee to poland faced

the streets of thousands of americans all they are demanding women get back their right to terminate their pregnancies anger frustration and despair to take away from a woman control over her future it's terrible many states don't care about women's rights so we've all just become second class citizens now that the supreme court overturned roe v. a 50-year-old drug in almost half of the american states, abortions have been banned, some clinics have canceled already scheduled patient appointments on the day of the decision in 13 more states, abortion will be banned for 30 days this is absolutely unacceptable and it has to change because we will simply go back 100 years, the health care organization that performs abortions reports that this decision deprived the right to abortion for about 36 million women of reproductive age, but there are those who consider it saving the children of the new

ways law, more than 63 million children lost their lives due to the injustice of 1973, even more without it, us president joe biden called the decision of the constitutional court tragic by mistake, the health and life of women in this country is now in danger, he also assured that he will work to ensure that officials do not prevent women from leaving for the procedure in other states in which it is allowed, in particular washington, california and oregon, currently abortions are completely prohibited in a little more than in 20 countries of the world, in particular, in iraq, egypt , honduras, and sometimes in poland, this decision caused mass protests by poles, and despite the rallies that lasted for months and the precedent of a dead pregnant woman who was carrying a child with developmental disabilities and after the death of the fetus in in the womb, she died a day later, the decision was not canceled in america, the ban on abortion may be tried to be changed after the senate elections in the fall , but it will depend on who comes to power

victoria consultant oksana tkachenko tsn 1+1 marathon the only news for him, we add daria pelyo to our conversation the lawyer of the public organization la strada e, this public organization takes care of women's rights, issues of gender equality , problems of violence against women in ukraine and well, we have already talked with them on the air, so we decided on this topic too, invite them and talk about it daria i think you understand me as a woman simply that every ukrainian woman is responsible, well every woman in the world is responsible for her own body, what should she do with her health and forbid limiting her right somehow sounds wild already in the 22nd century. but we hear the arguments of opponents of abortion, they say that it is a sin, and what argument affects me personally is that there is a certain percentage of women who die due to abortion, but criminal

abortion. well, because they are looking for somewhere to do it fast cheap well and so on hmm so what do you think, actually, the topic of abortion is quite discussed here, we can talk from the point of view of the legislation from the point of view of the woman herself who made the decision or who is forced because there are such cases it is very important to understand here that for a woman , first of all, this is a certain e-e minus of her health - this is, first of all, how physically and psychologically health are, it is important to understand that now in connection with a full-scale invasion, unfortunately, cases regarding how women apply for carrying out their abortion there is more, we are not only talking about the territory of ukraine, we are also talking about poland, where a lot of our women left, and this topic is quite taboo sometimes because there are really a lot of people who support those who oppose it, but we need to talk about it , we need to say why so why not

discuss this issue, by the way, even such a terrible term appeared, yes, kyiv region was raped, when bucha irpin was aggressively occupied, we know the number of cases of rape of ukrainian women, and a large number of these women left for further to poland and faced a problem that they, well, cannot solve, is the problem created for them by the rashists who committed violence against them. and today we will have an exclusive comment on the air about how polish activists helped our women in conditions when abortion is prohibited in poland prohibited by law as how they decided it well, nevertheless, it is worth listening to the arguments of the opposite side, i.e. opponents of abortion, they constantly remind that the child's right to life does not appear after birth, after conception we actually go home to the opponents of abortions, tell them what color their refrigerator should be, what should be prepared for dinner. well, for example, you

can't eat cholesterol because it's very harmful. well, why , to the opponents of abortion, you understand. we have such an even worse problem. i apologize so that you understand me correctly yes, the problem is actually abortions and the problem of boarding is on the surface, yes, a much deeper problem. this is when one group of people decides that it has the right to tell others how to live. you understand , we don’t have to go far. we have a neighbor to the east. sit as he talks about the fact that in general, historical justice needs to be returned and he also has a lot of co-parguments very, very aptly you noticed i wanted to talk about the petition that was registered on the website of the petition to the president on may 23, the name of the man is anatoliy golovchak, he registered a petition about the ban on abortions in ukraine, and here i want to work out how he argued it, yes, the russian occupiers are destroying ukrainians godlessly, let's not allow

ukrainian parents to repeat the actions of the russian occupiers, and it is forbidden to destroy ukrainian children our future is er anatoliy called his name at all i think i apologize what is that well what is that see what petitions are on the website of the state body nothing prevents evgeny after the broadcast to make a petition to ban anatoliy what is his name make petitions on the website do you understand the president and it will be legally equal to compare the russian ones. well, listen, when you put your thoughts on the public and public plane and create this petition, you get into the information field , the resonance of this petition was very big, there were only 1,000 votes seem to have gathered, but the publicity and reaction of ukrainian media figures and ordinary activists was a huge blow because of this comparison

of ukrainian women with the russian occupiers, but this topic is being discussed even in ukraine, and some politicians even tried to ban abortions in ukraine. yes, of course here, in fact, there are a lot of activists and a lot of bystanders who deny or support this topic , here we can say about various organizations that , on the contrary, currently help those women who have been raped, who have suffered from sexual violence on the part of russian servicemen, but in fact, it is really against the petition, it is open information and any person can write any petition so that it simply equalizes or changes the information in any direction. that is, we can talk about a different set of tools of democracy that we can use to convey our opinion and a petition that has gained a thousand votes while it has no legal force and we can actually write

any petition that can support a completely different opinion is picked up by politicians for the sake of their own pr, well, this is the case in ukraine, the arguments of the opponents, yes, and those who want, oh, well, about the opponents, oh , permits, yes, for abortions, yes, those who oppose them actually, i am saying that i heard about this petition with them very unexpectedly, that they also do not support this petition because they understand that now is not the time, and actually their arguments are very interesting, well , legal arguments because it is about what, as i said, that the child has the right to life from his own conception and not from my own birth and actually, i talked with the lawyer oleksandra stashenko, the head of the public organization protecting the rights of children at birth, let's listen , they say that no, it's not your body, and it's not my body, and it's

not my body, and the main argument is the fact that this is not about a woman's body, but about a child's body, which is genetically different, the mother's body is realized, that is, it's nothing to worry about, it's all there, there is no child, it means that there is complete freedom of choice and there is no need. there is nothing to think about, well, it's not like that mmm freedom of choice is because they wanted us to think that there is no child there, and who is there if it is not a child, it is a human child. she is simply still very young , that's why so many people oppose this situation that has developed in to the world that such deprivations

of children's lives are considered normal at some point humanity took a wrong turn if society currently believes that in the case of rape abortion is appropriate and legitimate . on- have you seen what is happening, uh, we are not just allowed freedom of an explosion on society predisposes a woman to this, that is, if the child is the result of rape and the woman decides to give birth, she is under such pressure from society , society literally forces her to terminate the pregnancy, and where is the freedom of choice, too, freedom ca n't she decide for herself, no, and everyone, everywhere, starts advising to terminate the pregnancy, and it

takes a lot of heroism to leave the child , society does not support women who decide to give birth as a result of rape. please tell me about the last question, the last thesis regarding the fact that society forces women to have abortions after rape, how often do you encounter such cases, in fact, if we talk about, is the legislation a list of diagnoses, a list of diseases or a list of cases for which a woman can have an abortion and on which period, that is, if we are talking about rape, then a woman can have an abortion if it is not more than 22 weeks, if it is already more, then unfortunately, she cannot do it because there will be a very big, uh, big profit for her health , and we are talking about the fact that in the future it will be a big minus for reproductive health and for physical psychological health as well. that's why we have to talk about it being within the framework

of legislation first and then we have to talk about the fact that it should be a woman's voluntary consent because it is only her choice, her desire should be and she takes full responsibility for herself for her health and what will happen to her in the future, but how often are they asked what kind of women they would like to leave this child, but they feel this pressure; in fact, there are such cases, but they are not so many, and here we can also link this situation to cases of domestic violence, because there is, uh, in our criminal code, an article on coercion to enter sexual connection uh, and this also happens even in marriage, if we are talking specifically about rape, then there are more such cases now, because, unfortunately, in the kyiv region, we hear and see that now in the mass media, these cases are becoming even more frequent, and that is why women are contacting and they face the challenges that they sometimes can not do because the period has passed when they can have an abortion or they go to the territory of another country where they can

not do it or because there are still restrictions according to the legislation about it let's talk further, but in general, where in the world do such prohibitions exist and how does it happen, there is such a new term, abortion tourism? to see about the fact that the countries where it is prohibited, they are actually in the geopolitical plan, they are in the minority, we can now see that, and this is just the last information, the infographic was presented in the portal, personal affairs, there is no united states yet. yes, but if we are talking about a liquid picture, if the situation in the world yes then in the liturgical practice is allowed and roughly speaking, if a woman makes a decision, yes, then there is nothing on the obstacle, of course, certain conditions. how did you call it? and if we are talking about global conceptual yes, the world is open in that a woman should make the decision that she considers necessary, this is a

solid european country, poland, she banned the right to cleanings, so at least 34,000 women tried to have an abortion illegally or go abroad to have an abortion, and we know that from at the beginning of the full-scale aggression , ukrainian women went to poland and there faced this problem of the taboo on abortions, and i spoke with the representative of the non-governmental organization abortions without borders, nataliya bronyarchyk, and she tells how ukrainian women, in particular , who were raped by racists, turned to her and how they, despite the risk of going to jail, helped our women as abortionists without borders. we help at least 94 women to have an abortion every day, 90 are done with the help of pills. we help them during a medical abortion

at home, we tell them how to take pills . the process takes place, how to prepare, and four more women, with our financial support, go to the netherlands, germany, austria every day to clinics where abortions are performed, because it is very difficult to do this in poland many women, especially from eastern poland, went to ukraine to perform abortions, but since the war began, the situation has changed fundamentally, now ukrainian women come to poland to be here and they are very surprised, we repeatedly heard scandals on the phone how can you be a progressive country in the european union and not perform abortions this is madness and we answer yes this madness is completely acceptable for poles the most popular destination now is the netherlands thanks to special dutch legislation board there you can do until the 22nd week, so many women with fetal anomalies

go there, the second most popular destination in slovakia, especially for women from the south of poland, it is easier for them to get there and they do not need to take two or three days off from work . it is the cheapest there, of course , since the beginning of the war, 520 women have already received help from abortions without borders, these are data for june 20, so it is possible that the number is already higher, but you must understand that we do not ask the women who come to us about the reasons. so we know about at least 520 women from ukraine at least they told us that they fled from ukraine because of the war and then had abortions with us five women went to the netherlands to have an abortion in the second trimester due to fetal abnormalities we paid for it in full we provided financial support to go to the

netherlands to pay for the procedure to stay there for three days because they have to stay for at least three days and then come back and the rest of the women from these 520 had an abortion with the help of pills in poland, we know that probably some of these 520 women survived sexual violence we know this is the port to go to never land case about passport we don't ask but some women decided to speak share their story our rule in abortion without borders ask only one question do you know the term of pregnancy this is the most important thing for us i think the real number abortion after rape we only know when the war ends because we remember the times after the war in the balkans many women told their stories about sexual violence about rape only when the war ended because only then they finally

felt safe, this can be understood. this is very interesting because according to polish law, people who have experienced sexual violence and become pregnant as a result have the right to an abortion here. because polish law says that abortions should be legal if the pregnancy occurred as a result rape, but as far as we know, it is very difficult for poles to find a doctor who wants to perform an abortion. and imagine a ukrainian woman who goes to the prosecutor and receives such a paper, it is unlikely maybe i know that one of the newspapers asked the prosecutor general's office a few weeks ago for statistics on whether ukrainian women were asked about the possibility of having an abortion and the number is zero and we have

a continuation of this topic. - the martynka hotline for the safety of refugees in ukraine, she also takes care of this problem and we want to ask nastya how all this is happening in poland, is it not scary for them to deal with this kind of help and what exactly ukrainian women are contacting you. good day. i congratulate you. we welcome nastya to our broadcast. thank you for joining us. please tell us what kind of help you provide to ukrainian women. also refugees who came from ukraine to poland already when the war started, and at first we helped refugees traveling to poland who needed