in principle, hm, i feel quite confident. my work is very similar to the work of an investigative journalist. yes, when i was there before, for example, i penetrated mizhhirya dvoinnikovych. now i am penetrating the enemy. that is, it is also necessary to penetrate , the most important thing is to find her position again, out of longing. from tugan, the student does not shoot where someone wants to. yes , she only shoots where the enemy is moving out of direct visibility. i must see the target and for quite a long time, because the missile flies for a long time, and that this target does not move very quickly, because again, it is still quick to hit at speed it's difficult for me, even on targets that move quickly , shooting at me with a few rockets, of course it would be possible, but i understand that i have a big a-a nuance not to hit yes and there are very, very many different water ones, you have to walk walk walk ahead a-a search, let's say those places where you can go further. you need to prepare a position. i am preparing a position uh so that it is as safe as possible for the work of my team. or it is always here and covered after a shot

, that is, you need to prepare and retreat - you need to prepare hiding places and where you can survive a mine attack in to the staff, well, that is, it is such a big job, but this is very, very much. i go on scouting, they remind me, in principle, of journalistic activity, then i will tell you honestly, i have been preparing for this all my life. i was absolutely convinced that we would have the offensive of russia and when , even in my childhood, i lost to myself various moments . again i lost all those moments when i would have to fight, but never, never, in my thoughts, i could not imagine that i would be a commander, so here i had a new experience, a very new experience that i have to command a unit. to be honest

, at first, i had a very small unit, but then it increased a-and again it increased at first in this way, i, um, i was jumped with a thigh yes, but several thighs, in principle, in my command were er-er generally in kyiv in the places of a probable tank breakthrough from with good visibility, they were standing there in case suddenly work broke and i was these people on one side and commanded on the other side , they were always at a distance, that is, they were, in principle, far in the rear, yes, they were very needed there in the event of what well, for example one held the dam across vyshhorodi, the other was there moaning there, well, held there a huge piece of the district yes well , that is, it was very good such places in case they might be needed, but i was still at a distance and it’s somehow well, i’m constantly on the post

under shbybin, and i was very, very honestly worried that once again, we will now go to what other areas of the front, all these people will be drawn up under my command, how will i cope with them? no, well , it turned out that in principle everything is fine. the fact that there is a woman was really a problem because they were just being teased with the boys yes, but they very quickly found something to answer if someone started to laugh at them, i didn't ask please tell me how many tanks you knocked out and says and our commander beat two well, this is the first time there, well, in the first days, yes. and it immediately made an impression on those who mocked. and now we all work as one team and, in principle , everything is fine with us in this regard. in any case, i do not plan to live today because well , in my opinion, it is impossible and it is again. you understand it, it does not allow you to adjust, as they say, real

samurai should think only about death and in difficult times, it works, but only this works, that is, so that you understand, when these were the first days of the war, this terrible hunger well, it's simple incredible cold. we were in positions without any. we couldn't even boil water for ourselves so that we wouldn't be discovered, for example, by drones, because we are again ahead of everyone. yes, we are there. if they find us, they will destroy us in the first days of the war . eh, when it was cold, very cold , eh, it was the worst thing, and there was only one thought, and no matter how long we live, it will be warm, live until warm, then you know, we have lived through the heat, it is such a joy , we have seen warmth, we have warmed up, we have seen spring further on, and at least live to live i still have the same thing put, then we got to the south, and when we got there, oh, for some reason, it was very late spring there, and it was terribly cold in the south, but it was just terribly cold, but still there was a lot of sun, and the greens had already started to break through there, and

suddenly apricots bloomed, that is, everything it was cold, it was raining, the apricots began to bloom, and i had this thought: i should at least try these apricots here , and i must say that i already tried the first example there, but there are still a lot of them on the plantations, we are constantly scrambling on the plantations, that's all i'm waiting for them to mature, that is, you set yourself some small, small goals and you achieve them, we have already defeated the second army of the world, the point is that putin does not feel sorry for people anymore, for him, the military is just cannon fodder if he was there some kind of approach well, like in western countries we would have already won the war russia capitulated and since there he can throw in duties as he likes it's all somehow still the way it is and therefore we can already talk about a certain kind of victory yes we have already won this victory of course it is necessary to bring it to the end very much i am silent a lot about the fact that our

cities are occupied, a large part of our territory is very heavy battles are taking place again in donetsk region, but this is already a victory, this is the first, my first victory was achieved very quickly, yes, and of course the next steps will be difficult for us, right? she told me that now his character hasn't changed at all - it's harder to do everything, but because we won in such a difficult situation, believe us all the way, it's just the way it is. this was an exclusive interview with tetyana chornovol, ex-people's deputy, journalist a colleague, now the operator of the anti-tank missile system stugna, who already has several let's say very, very well-hit shots and destroyed occupiers, also thanks to tatiana, we have a plus. as they say, we will continue to cover the main events of

today . the investigation continues zavaliv shopping center amstor came under fire from russian rockets x22 missile that was soviet-made in the 60s a-a i think we will definitely talk about this weaponry and what it means why does russia continue it use and contact us now, svitlana rybalka, spokeswoman for the state emergency service of the poltava region, mrs. svitlana, we welcome you, glory to ukraine, i congratulate you, the latest figures that i saw about 80% of the rubble of the amstor shopping center did manage to be sorted out, and he understands that there is still work ahead. about the victims and victims, what number are you currently at? as of this morning, 80% have already been

cleared . there are only 18 confirmed dead in the hospital and there are also currently 14 body fragments, but they are still being investigated. that is, the investigation is ongoing there, well, this is fresh information for the time being . is extremely ferocious and in broad daylight. this actually happened, and the numbers we see now are impressive, very tragic , but we understood, we understand that there could be even more victims. in your opinion, as a person of experience, what saved most people after all there in amstor a-a well, first of all, we still can’t fully say exactly how many people died in your history a-a absolutely can’t even er-e well, roughly name the number of er-e people and we

can’t at this point now, well, that is, our service well, we can't speculate on this right now, that is, say that there are more of them there, or we won't find them anymore. that is, of course, we will continue the search, what happened first, when the explosion happened, that is, before that when the explosion happened, there was an air alarm in this store there was always a message for people to leave this shopping center, of course, no one, let's say, kicked out his store, but the sellers sometimes left, and people also left, well, mostly, who made the decision to stay, for example, there inside, well , those ones, well, let’s say, they were forcibly taken out. well , when the alarm sounded, the arrival of this rocket happened literally, well, 7 minutes later, and it happened

. equipped with a bean storage. that is why it was necessary to literally cross the street in the residential buildings there is a storage, which means, of course , there are many people. we are approaching the epicenter, well, from the explosion itself, we approached the explosion itself, and where there was the biggest fire, let's say the center of the fire, well, how much everything burned there, even the metal, the metal from the club was burning, just a liquid, metal and from from under sokal of this building and understood that such a blow can leave a person from a living being only a copy of mrs. svitlana, is there

awareness of the destruction around the shopping center as the epicenter of this catastrophe, what else was affected - were residential buildings affected there, for example? there are no destructive processes taking place in different ways in the residential buildings nearby , yes, across the road there is a residential area that was blown up so that it was blown up, well, on the windows of the balcony , there is also a nearby building, well , that is, around the radius, whispers were blown up, that is, but because it was limited to this, that is, there are no such large catastrophic destructions, of course, everything went to this er trading center, but there was another er plant nearby, well, a civilian plant, let’s say yes, not the plant that was told about there being a military facility, absolutely we where journalists went and showed that this is absolutely an object

that this is absolutely uh, well, an innocent factory where equipment for road repair is manufactured. that is, they were not manufactured there. and there were no weapons, equipment, weapons, or even military personnel on the spot, and we it was simply shown to the journalists who arrived there even from european countries and we fully confirmed to them, well, we immediately left because we saw doubts in their eyes and said let's now go to the territory of this plant where the russians say that it is military and you have the opportunity to see and take a complete look everything that is stored there, what is manufactured there is even more so. this plant is now working, well, you know, there is minimal work in such factories, because at the moment, ukraine is at war in our country, and such repair work, take now is not the time to hold them, and that is why they are working on such a minimal amount of money. and, of course, there were also accusations that the shopping center was not working, but this is a complete delusion. it was working and there were always many people,

many workers, many visitors and we can't say with certainty now, again, how many people died there, and it's already a tragedy, but this tragedy, i think it will be possible to increase every day . the state service for emergency situations, let me remind you that they are also our heroes, they are our rescuers who are the first after the russian federation once again strikes civilians, in particular, objects . you know, now i see a lot of moaning about the fact that russia is killing decent people and many other things, and taking into account the

crimes committed by the russian federation as a whole , an act of aggression against us is a crime in itself kremenchuk is an extremely cynical crime. military actions in severodonetsk may seem to some. i don't know. i don't know. it may be a less cynical crime. for some , i don't know. i don't know. normal warfare, but less so with what the russian federation is doing. the fact of its existence now is more like a real world crime . to correct - it needs to be done little by little. well, i will remind you that today was marked by the liberation of the snake island from its occupiers, and my god, how is this presented as a gesture of goodwill in order not to favor his efforts to export and unblocking of cargo and ukrainian ports so that there were no alleged speculations and manipulations well, but less so, we see that

real power is acting on russia, real successes of the armed forces of ukraine, really competent leadership of the armed forces of ukraine and a fairly clear position, and not some other smearing as they say, is it known whether there is anything about the negotiation processes that may seem relevant to someone now or something like the russian federation feels the power, it retreats and withdraws its contingent from the snake island, in fact the history of the snake is very interesting, it is a legendary island since ancient times, please read it, i was interested in this whole story, as it really is a very symbolic place for me, although what was attributed to it by russian propaganda, well, it doesn’t fit on any head, as they say, but less however, so far our armed forces of ukraine are in no hurry to consolidate their control over the island of zmyinyi well , because it is purely logistical nuances and it is necessary to

make sure that there are no subversive movements there occupiers of surprises for our defenders but really the control point at this point is very important and is in fact a turning point that just stings the situation in the black sea region as a whole. safety p viktor i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well today we are talking about the snake it would seem such a small dot that by the way i am just from crimea and it reminds me a lot of the crimean peninsula in its shape but less with that, he is freed from the occupiers, russia admits that it has withdrawn its contingent from there, and it covers itself with a gesture, good and will but we understand that this is the work of our armed forces, in particular, if i am not mistaken, such weapons as bohdana, about this

, the diligent general zauvazh noted well, a little let 's put it this way, lifting the veil over the special operation around the island of zmyinyy. please tell me how you see the release of zmyinyy, what advantages it might give us in the future, well, in the future, it guarantees the absence of a threat of an amphibious operation side of our coast to odesa and south bessarabia and uh, it also helps us uh, to guarantee that we can really focus somewhere in the near future on the fact that we can ensure the exit of a foreign court to us with grain from our ports, this is in case of a change for example , nato ships of the countries of the black sea region, that is, turkish, romanian, or bulgarian, will be able to approach and in this way cover the exit

of foreign ships from our ports, it is important to us , in fact, it is just a howl from the snake or for the wound it is important for the ukrainian ports to put their facilities there and take control of the island, i doubt that we have the facilities that will allow us to protect our soldiers on the island, it may be possible that it may be some kind of development group there, a few people with a radio station with such a with some kind of ammunition there in order to simply control the situation around, but i don't think that modern means of controlling the sea area have information that those people who will be there are simply nominally located. this is an extremely difficult, truly logistical thing to provide them with a means of existence because there is a

huge problem with water there, there is simply no water. well, a priori, a special installation must be installed there in order to desalinate the water, and any energy situation that works there is uh-uh and the point where a rocket can fly and eliminate both the installation and our people, so is it worth exposing them to danger hmm, it is difficult to say, mr. viktor, yesterday we learned that 144 of our defenders were freed from captivity, and this is currently the wounded and seriously wounded, in particular, and uh, the same defenders among them there are also azovs, which in general looks very cool, taking into account the demonization that the russian federation is promoting around our azovs. and you know, before the

main directorate of intelligence reported this good news in russia, they reported on the decision not to exchange ukrainian prisoners of war, they were allegedly planned to be placed in a temporary detention center, the head of the investigative committee , oleksandr bastrykin, stated that somewhere on the forum, it seems to meet the students. it was a very formal situation. but nevertheless, why do we see that the official statements are completely different from what is happening in reality , and his evidence was suspended, by analogy with a prisoner. they really keep some of our soldiers , in particular their commanders, in isolation cells,

it was not known about it, they keep them in isolation cells in e-e in moscow, and the fsb, because it works with them, carries out filtering, tries to get rid of people recruit to get some operational information that might be interesting and so on and so on. that is, all this means that the investigative committee does not have the opportunity to do pr on all these things. and this is just such a statement for your own consumption and everything in your opinion how much is the situation changing with the first precedent of the release of living azov citizens, in particular, well, that is, in the russian federation , again, their own population simply considers them almost universal evil, but we can see that

the russian leadership is releasing them, this will not create some very logical, as it seems to me, misunderstanding between the authorities in the russian federation and the understanding of society, the sands were beating their heads against the wall, that on the one hand they are liquidating some kraken unit there, and on the other hand, they are sending the nazis back to ukraine, the only thing i would like to limit the conversation in azov, because there was an appeal from the women of the gas release committee, and they asked not to raise this topic in the press and in the comments, because everything is so complicated, it is so difficult to start a conversation that it is simply very difficult, so it is worth it i just wanted to note that the video that was released yesterday by the main intelligence agency actually indicates that this is not

the first attempt to get to the place where the exchange took place, well, that is, it is a very sensitive story and it is obvious that she has such an ability to break down at a certain moment, something almost went wrong, she actually broke down because there were explosions, not mine, in the midst of the aggressor himself, it was approximately the same reaction as in istanbul, when they did not understand what was happening, that there were some agreements, someone promised something to someone, or something else, mr. viktor, there are a few more such moments , but there is an understanding of what is happening now with the kremlin’s puppets who call themselves administrations in the temporarily occupied territories of our country, donetsk, luhansk, there, mariupol, they are also trying to under the so-called dpr, but less so. well, there. as far as i

understand, the mafia refuels and periodically, like spiders in a jar, they try to sting each other. how has it changed according to your observations, if they are, of course, you have a situation in the temporarily occupied territories after mr. kiriyenko allegedly became the leader or supervisor of them, the change took place in the sense that there were fewer soldiers. from the special services and he had contacts with those special services and he worked in such a quiet yes those quiet sap and he allowed these special services there to be a similar force now on er in those occupied territories that were under control

aggressors are a huge problem, especially kherson zaporizhzhia oblast, i won’t say pro-khatyrsk, but i think that there is a similar situation there, there is no communication with local authorities, individual managers go to contacts, cooperation is individual, and then they end at the stages at which they can end for example, the text in kherson. yes, when it concerns the fulfillment of obligations to the community there, providing water, food and fuel, that is one thing, but when they demand that he go out there and he started broadcasting something else under the banner of incomprehensible conglomerations or signed some petitions under incomprehensible stamps there with seals, that is,

he actually announced that he does not belong to ukraine. this is where such a misunderstanding begins. the same situation at all levels, they lack the possibility of normal they don’t have a normal, normal dialogue with everyone. who provides some? well , i don’t say anything about the national police there or rescuers. other territories, that is, huge problems and i. well, they and they are not really preparing for the entry there , i don’t know, some kind of winter period, for example, no one there is preparing for any there, er, they partially announce that we are preparing for september 1, schools, but so that there is the accumulation of some products or something else such a long-term stay in this territory they do not foresee and this is actually er thank you we must now

go to the er broadcast of the press conference of joseph biden thanks for this analytics as always over quality viktor yagun, major general of the security service of ukraine in reserve, the former deputy head of the security service of ukraine was in touch with us. and i would like to remind you that the three-day summit in madrid was summed up by the statements of both jens stoltenberg and will now be summed up by the statements of the president of the united states states of joseph biden if we can already go and listen to mr. joseph then we will do it good afternoon everyone please sit down thank you for taking the time to do this i think everyone agrees i was talking about our need

come to a different strategy for nato and for how we will cooperate together and for the fact that we talked about the big seven and about new a-a opportunities. i told putin that if he invades ukraine, then nato will be a union and the will unite and defend itself against aggression, this is exactly what happened. today, we must unite our union. and we are ready for any threats in the future. last time there was a new

nato mission, and at that time we turned to this as a partner and we practically did not mention china now it has changed and nato is also changing at this summit we are uniting our allies against the direct threat russia poses to europe and china poses to the world order as well as finland and sweden were invited to nato these two countries with a significant tradition of neutrality have now decided to join nato, which is not next day and sad boliuse invited the leader of finland, he asked me if we would support the eeu that we would support

the membership of switzerland but no uh the leaders of sweden and what happened to her, i called her, she said that i can come the next day to talk about joining nato, the allies are increasing defense spending, most of them agreed to increase defense spending even higher than 2% of gdp, 2% of gdp on defense, see for example germany germany said that it will spend 2% of gdp and a special fund is being created for the military e-e more than 100 billion dollars slovakia czech republic a-a the netherlands all said they will provide two percent