conditionally after the election, biden says that putin is meaty, and then there is information that biden is said to be dissatisfied with how harshly blinken and the minister of defense of the united states of america speak about the victory of ukraine, then macron appears, who says that putin should be given the opportunity to save face in the end is coming to irpen, and macron's rhetoric is completely different, and we are always waiting. so, when the whole event will finally break with er, we can see yuriy kremenchuk with any desire, we will definitely agree on a word with any wishes to finally somehow come to an agreement with putin. and they will simply work for him, well , for the victory of ukraine over the russian federation. perhaps this was already the last stage, after which the resumption of some negotiations will no longer be possible to save putin's face. what do you think ? today, my colleague, the former chairman delegation between the seas from the nato parliamentary assembly wrote the following post that the president of ukraine came to speak well, you,

rather, the president of ukraine made a statement and the two klitschko brothers came and said that if something you remember here we are here with our fists and we will protect you when our partners see us as the only ones when the entire civil sector is working to ensure that we have weapons, they are going to the united states what hanna hopkod is doing, because when dating with a large part of human rights defenders, it is very often women who have the opportunity to move, when the world sees that we are united, regardless of the political party, the representation of their statuses, they understand that there is no other way. coming to ukraine, macron, you have added, began to write in ukrainian flowers, which was also noticed by the ukrainian society, including that is, we have a situation that today madrid is a unique, let's say , event that took place from the point of view of the fact that for the first time russia was recognized as an aggressor country, not china, because all these years working as a parla of the nato assembly then

, leading the delegation, i will tell you that it was completely different, we have after the third ramstein, it is 50 plus, a completely different configuration here. i agree with the head of the nsdc that and we are the secretary after february 24. and this is the format. when will the configuration actually change security, which was formed 70 years after the second world war, now a coalition is being formed in such a way that lend-lease of the 41st may meet with linguine of the 42nd, but the snake island, moreover, our attacks with appropriate weapons for the things of modern nato shows that we are able to quickly our armed forces of ukraine absolutely have to learn. maybe in the future they will improve even the weapons they have received. its engineering forces have a situation where they only understand force and they are starting to say that we are retreating from our own and so will be announced other retreats from our ukrainian territory

. nine countries, you and i mentioned here the visit of the president of romania at one time. that is, we see how far poland has complied today, and look at the numbers that are not commensurate with what was and is now. these are trust funds, these are special funds - these are special budgets which e is disbanding the alliance and how it distributes is now very different eyes and we talked at the beginning of your program about the fact that not only nato requires changes from someone, but nato has begun to understand that it itself needs transformation. i will remind you once again that finland and sweden are countries with enhanced opportunities, there were six of them. these are ukraine, georgia, sweden, finland, and jordan and australia, and jordan is very important to us because it is what we need on the front lines today, and we

must understand how other countries will be to us to help is to keep and these are countries that are not geographically able to be charms of nato, but they are in expanded capabilities. i hope that our ukrainian victory consists in the fact that there is no alternative, this was stated by all the leaders in italy, klitschko and madrid, yes after that, president duda himself immediately supported that only nato now has a chance - it is our victory to quickly complete the accession to those formations, and this is also nato. the european union. the flank, and the security computers as they have been for many years, and as of now, we have a situation where events are developing so quickly that we need to be able to and learn to react quickly, we have to de-occupy the territory, and we have already talked with you here in this studio about today's important task the occupation of the occupied territories, because in fact we have the same threat from them, plus

belarus is already absolutely actually annexed, and it can also start reverse processes, and that is why they started about belarusians at the beginning of the transfer it is correct to keep the attention there and most likely this self-proclaimed president, he does not make decisions at all, the system has been in place for many years, there is a joint security service of all intelligence services and so on . take their legislation and the changes that have taken place, that is, from the middle. it will be very difficult to do something, therefore, as of today, we have a format of rapid change , not only of the requirements for ukraine, which wants to become a nato member, but also for nato itself to be reformed, to adjust precisely yes. to ensure security on the eastern flank , it is necessary. that's why you see this. thank you for showing this picture. it shows very well what exactly happened. this is in numbers, and accordingly, the statements of the leaders and thanking president biden and other leaders of other countries for their firm position. understanding

the situation that is developing today, it is necessary to help ukraine not just to win, but to win quickly, because a quick victory for ukraine is the elimination of threats to nato member countries, which today receive such appeals as poisoning of goods to kaliningrad yes, yoniksberg, we have a situation with the fact that there are threats, or after that, when the transit is also stopped by another country , courage appears, that is, when they see the confrontation of ukraine, when ukraine is given what ukraine needs for defense, for attacks, for further battles, we actually have the situation that this confidence in the victory of ukraine appears in other countries and this courage appears because we have repeatedly said here that the mission of ukraine in the 21st century is feasible . at a high price, unfortunately, with very heavy losses, but we we are becoming a state, we are becoming a nation, i support my colleagues here, they are absolutely patriots, everyone is trying to

understand and see how important it is to have a position, that is why we have to work. because if you ask what is next, then it will be a war and with which we must be able to stand on two feet and learn to live in those conditions, work, pay taxes, raise the economy, these are all the prices, the necessary elements, which, by the way, were discussed very often at various venues in madrid. i think that we will still have a few weeks to talk about what is there because there was a lot of things, and really , the country is a terrorist, not a sponsor of terrorism, but a terrorist, and china is beginning to soften such a position, i did not accidentally mention here, as well as countries such as indonesia and others there, a complete reformatting of the entire security, e.e. security system, we will see , and yuriy tkachuk thank you for such a detailed analysis . i would definitely like to see ukraine on this map and the placement of some allied troops in the future. i hope

it will be very soon, maybe even faster than us. let's join the european union, who knows, maybe somewhere if we talk about technology, then you can already paint ukraine there, you can paint it, the only thing that should not be done now is to not know where and how much there is. let them not know and be afraid, like now, they ran away from the snake island, i will add a few more from myself test well, the first thing is that after the mandarin, nato is increasing the number of troops and equipment on the border of the democratic world, so to speak, being closer to russia is very good, but at the same time it is an additional risk, no matter how we like it, we need to understand that russia is such a nervous enemy who can also do inappropriate things, as they are doing now with the shelling of shopping centers, saying that there is something military there. well, in fact, i think that they are trying to deceive themselves about it in some way, justifying their stupidity, there is no other way to say

it. to arise in the future, it is clear that there are promises of the nato leadership in relation to estonia to the baltic countries that everything will be fine . continuation of the dialogue with mr. danilov, still having a permanently built air defense system is probably already connected with nato's capabilities in the future or the near future, maybe even this year, it's a pity. i understand that this is a very delicate political moment and mr. danilov could not really answer because there is still no legal reason to engage in direct confrontation . if suddenly the air defense from poland will still shoot down missiles flying over ukraine, because no matter how cool they are, they will not be fired from

ukrainian territory and russia then well , speaking in simple language, he can go crazy and do something even more stupid. and yes. in conclusion, regarding nato, it is a very important point that there are changes , ah. in fact, the reconstruction of trade routes, which will already be financed by large sums from the eu and the united states, and not only the passage of indonesia, in my opinion , is a sign that in fact, not only china wants to play trade cooperation with europe, but also indonesia is certainly tending towards this and india will join a little later, but it is a little more complicated there. nato has a very simple role in this to protect all these trade routes, and ukraine will play one of the key roles in this, since we are right on

this path and are the closest to where we need to protect further mykhailo tsimbalyuk keep in mind that the next meeting of the 20 indonesians, our president is invited, the president of the country is not invited, and of course the president of indonesia was interested in seeing with his own eyes a country that he has not yet seen, which is too concerning. i would actually say that is true talked about, but i would like us to ask ourselves what it is called, everyone remember that this is not a military or military alliance - it is a military-political one, and that's what it's about, if we talk about our army, about the fact that we are deploying nato caliber and so on, everything is fine but let's see what threats they see, what happened there, and what ukraine can take for itself. it's good that too much changes

without question. it's good that it's close to our borders . in the context of the russian-ukrainian war, and actually about those terrible fears and what russia is doing, and the second time about the fact that ukraine can join nato and refers to the 2008 summit, well, the third thing that happened for the first time, well, let's say at the official level and from the president's office and the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, mr. kuleba, said yes, our way is nato, it is important because it has already been voiced, i don't remember who, what, there were various wavering interpretations, who spoke as he wanted, and the first thing that appeared when, well, practically, the first point among the threats is russia, the threat but

because of whom belarus is also a threat, since it joins militarily in order to well, in principle, i do not want to waste a lot of time now, because even being in a state of war or losing territory, theoretically, we could join nato, but we need to reform governance, the fight against corruption, and so on if we do not do this, then our armed forces, well, theoretically, i would say they will come to the third or second position, but the question will not be about the political system and reforms. now there are a lot of interesting questions. but i would like to focus on there will be no one who can talk about it today. what among the threats is that climate change is appearing for the first time in this place. the climate is changing in our country. we can see it. what will grow in our country. what will we grow? what will

we export? how will the demographic picture change? who will leave? who will i would like to come. i was absolutely aggrieved by this, but while we are not in nato, we need to think about some regional alliances with those countries that can support us armed or, as i asked the question, god forbid, make us a nuclear umbrella, how do we add serhiy kryvonosa via skype to our virtual conversation, chief of staff, first deputy commander of the air force , general of the armed forces of ukraine, deputy secretary of the national security and defense council of the 19-20s, mr. serhiy, welcome to our studio, says glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, good evening to everyone, and before we talk directly about the situation on the front, we are now talking about the nato summit in madrid, about the next statements, including the promises of new weapons, which are the most important things you singled out for yourself from

this meeting of the military alliance, which we have yet to but who supports us and we are allies. at this stage, they made it clear to us that we will be supported first of all politically. and the most important thing is that they will give weapons. the issue of the quantity and quality of those weapons is a separate issue, but in the meantime there is support and we need it is to be used, but at the same time, i hope for someone, but do not forget about yourself, therefore, the question of raising the capacity of the ukrainian defense-industrial complex to produce products for its own armed forces. this is the number one issue that still needs to be resolved and without flirting there are excuses that the missile strikes of the russian federation can er reach us anywhere, the question is not the same at the time er the sphere effect in which there was er in germany during the second world war showed that the correct organized diversification of production allows do not reduce

, even increase the projectile bombing of the enemy, increase our own production, we have a living historical example, let's also increase it, and for now, we are waiting for someone to solve our problem for us. we have a decent hunger and we uh, let's shout, give, give, give, and what have we done for this, and oh miss, it's okay, the number one task for us is to use the help that they give us, but in the meantime, to build up our own muscles. this is probably the most important thing . at this stage, mr. serhiy is here again somewhere at the beginning of june, when we analyzed the words of experts and high-ranking ukrainian officials that june had become such a turning point in this war, and you said then that it is unlikely that anything like this will happen, that the fighting will continue, the situation is tense, and in the end, the month is already ending and it can be said that here you really were not mistaken in

these assessments. if you look at what is er. well, what could you say. how to analyze where it is difficult and why is it so is an interesting question. we have er. there will be such a month of waiting, but again, this is not a month since the turning point in this war, and the number one problem for us at the moment is to keep our territories in the east and south of ukraine and prevent the capture of the slavs and bahmut and the second question is that we understand that the russians are still trying push belarus to take the first step on ukrainian soil and drag them into this war that is directly beneficial to russia and not to the belarusian people, so it is more important for me whether the belarusians will attack

our territories in the next two weeks, this is important to me why because if this is carried out, we understand that we will have to withdraw some of our forces from the east of ukraine and take such a purely defensive position, and the question cannot be about what kind of counter-offensive - counter-offensive actions, and for this the russians they are dragging us into this game against belarus, knowing that we don't have a lot of resources. unfortunately, on the part of the state, at the state level, it is not working to build up our furniture, valuable capabilities, it is not working with the population, they are not teaching people how to navigate and be able to act confidently in combat situations, and for us, i don't think that june, july, will be such an immediate , somehow critical month, even if the belarusians still attack us, our task is in three directions, build up our defense capabilities

of the industrial complex to build up its capabilities in terms of mobile reserve and to keep its lands and plus and probably also to increase its efforts on the military-diplomatic front and what the russians can force is the same everyone to take a tougher position on the lifting of sanctions against russia, because they are already used to their sanctions, the ones they had and they absolutely do not use them there, but if it is increased and if the russians understand that they also have big economic problems, then this will be one of such factors, but this can push russia even then to use tactical nuclear weapons, and this is for very important answers, in fact, the connection with sergiy krivonos was interrupted, we will now try to restore him, and while we are talking about lego, i know that you are her question, but in the end, you are about it and danilo

was persuaded about what kryvino is saying now that one of the important factors in how we should fight for our country is not only asking for weapons and making our own weapons, but indeed mr. kryvonos as a general as the deputy secretary of the nsdc as the creator of the special operations forces, he definitely asked more than once the question that is heard in this studio, why since the 19th year we stopped the production of neptunes, he is bohdan, it would be a completely different force in the ukrainian army today, but without knowing i hear mr. kryvonos here, i hear him i wanted to ask something about something else. i am convinced that sooner or later after our victory, when our flags are restored and over donetsk luhansk and at simferopol, we will definitely ask the question why

were they not dug up for three years? by the way, thank you for why didn't the fortifications on the belarusian-ukrainian border have been dug up for three years? and sooner or later someone will have to give an explanation, but i have another question: you are actually a general who went through real combat operations, who went through real training, but i can't understand for myself the war, the large-scale aggression began on february 24. today on the street it is not even june, it is already the month of july. why were no fortifications built on the severodonetsk line on the line during this period from february to june? lysychanska and whether fortifications will eventually be built on the ukrainian kramatorsk line, because what was dug and built in 2015 the enemy

could not take with a direct frontal strike, and then the question arises: why during these three months and we did not prepare for an absolutely understandable attack in in the direction of luhansk and donetsk regions if mr. serhiy heard oleg's question, unfortunately, i probably didn't hear it, there is a bit of a problem with the connection, we hope that now we can fix it. mykhailo tsimbalyuk wanted a word before switching on, please colleagues said regarding the madrid nato summit, it is really important for ukraine for the overall security situation on the entire continent. i would like to say that it is also important that the decision was finally made that european states will transfer weapons to ukraine not only of the soviet model, as was the case

before, and we knew about it that they transferred only what they no longer use, an official decision was specifically made that nato weapons will be transferred, this indicates that the transition to nato standards is not only in other things, but it will be go and by arms but i see that the kryvonos bank is included, maybe we will listen to him, then i will continue, mr. president. we just heard your opinion that russia should be pressured with greater sanctions . to the possible use even of nuclear weapons in response to such sanctions, which may be possible to continue my opinion well, i have already heard, uh, i was asked the question why was falsification equipment not implemented

along the belarusian border, i would like the answer myself to hear why the people who are responsible for this did not build up their defense capabilities, and if even during the nine years of the war we dug a trench meter by meter, one meter a day, then directly we had hundreds of hundreds of kilometers of these trenches and opiv why, well, it's probably better to ask the people's elected officials who are present and the leadership of the military and political leadership of our country, but the question is not even now, why hasn't it been done ? efforts because as the war is shown correctly, the equipped engineering positions make it possible to provide the majority and quality of shelter for the personnel and in many cases to force the enemy to abandon their intentions to attack the belarusian ukrainian border - it is 1086 kilometers long and

in most of it it is a lot there are many forests and swamps, but which directions will be used directly against them, so you see, we are trying to establish contact with mr. crooked nose, we cannot say where he is, that's why the connection is so let's let tsymbalyuk finish his opinion, then let's give it to kovalchuk, he, er, drozdov, nato was clearly very important, first of all, for ukraine, but what will happen after that, let's wait, because this is a two-way movement, the position of the ukrainian authorities should also be the same . correct steps, including from the ukrainian authorities regarding the ukrainian- belarusian border. well, i don't think that

much depended on the people's deputies here, how all these defense structures were built, and i agree with the general thanks to god, they finally managed to do it now, but strategically it is difficult for the ukrainian armed forces. because a large number of personnel of engineering military equipment is distracted, this is already strategic difficulties, which is also important. they talked about indonesia, about the november meeting of the twenty well, so far putin has not been invited, but experts say that he may still appear there, if he does, then these are also very serious challenges for ukraine, and it is important , once again, to hope for the armed forces of our country in relation to that time, the majority of the ukrainian land that is currently captured will be freed because of that, do you

agree that we as people's elected officials have influence and must demand from the ukrainian government, first of all, the ukroboronprom, for real results of work, because there is a potential, which, of course, during the war, it is not possible to find out who is to blame, because it will be after victories, but encourage ukroboronprom - these are state-owned enterprises of strategic importance that are still alive today, to actually produce e- weapons and equipment for the armed forces of ukraine and not completion is another thing, the economy cannot be victories without a strong economy, now the economic block of the government is unfortunately stuttering and we do not hear of serious investment projects, we do not see how the government is ready to take those steps that will still allow

ukrainian business to work and people to earn to create normal, uh, jobs, as far as i'm concerned, the economy has not been translated into rails and this is the basis of any victory, this is an example of our european states that went through the war, first of all, this is great britain and other states. thank you. but i see that mr. crooked-nosed counts two minutes and leaves himself , let's ask crooked-nosed a question, we hope for a connection, rhetorically , for sure, the question was why trenches were not dug somewhere on the border with belarus, not only because of the swamp, although there are many of them there, and there are not so many roads from belarusians in ukraine, but it seems to me that it was because there was participation the tripartite contact group had minsk 1:2 and so on. in fact, since the 14th year, many people still believed that belarus could be a friend for us, but maybe i don't know , maybe there is another reason. when yatsenyuk started

building his wall, he spent too much but all the same, we did not see the effect, there may be another option, but from all sides regarding weapons. by the way, mr. mykhailo oleksiy danilov spoke about what is manufactured, he did not say where it is manufactured, not necessarily. in ukraine itself, we now have to concentrate , unfortunately, we know how many sbu restores these here are the fire adjusters if they surrender our positions. this is just a disaster. to be honest, such people are still in ukraine, and you know, many people write to me in the comments on social networks, eh, why won’t we return the death penalty, they write terrible things from the point of view humanity. i understand that ukraine will not do this, but society seeks, you know, such a thing. unfortunately, the blood in relation to those who show themselves for 200 dollars is absolute. there are no words. i will not call it any bad word . they are guarded in the hands of the armed forces - it's clear how we

can strengthen them depends only on how much anti-missile defense and long-range weapons we have, because we are now strengthening something or digging something that can be fired at from near the station from russia or from ukraine, it is very difficult , our boys will simply die digging these trenches, unfortunately, these trenches do not depend on the people's deputies, we can of course come up with some law with you and oblige to allocate there maybe more funds for the fact that they are more there dug there and so on, but i will remind you that the demarcation of the border was also not done in 2014. in this regard, fortifications could not be built normally because it was not clear where and everyone was hoping, i will repeat once again, what could happen with belarus friendship there is no friendship with either belarus or russia, period. now the main thing is to hold the position, free the territory , and then extract, build as much as possible. well