clearly, how we can strengthen them depends only on the extent to which we have anti-missile defense and long-range weapons, because it is very difficult to strengthen something now or dig something that can be fired at from a short distance from russia or ukraine, our guys will simply die while digging these trenches, unfortunately, do not depend on the people's deputies, these trenches, we can of course come up with some law with you and oblige to allocate there maybe there are more funds for the fact that they dug more there and so on, but i i will remind you that in our country the demarcation of the border was also not done in 2014. in connection with this, fortifications could not be built normally because it was unclear where and everyone hoped. i will repeat once again that there can be friendship with belarus. there is no friendship with belarus. with russia full stop. now the main thing is to hold the position, free the territories, and then extract and build as much as possible. well, even something similar to the border of the

united states and mexico . for several months, they did it, thank you, thank you for the apartment, the guys of the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces, glory to ukraine , kryvonosa . click tabakhmutu, i wanted to ask you and what are the prospects for lysychansk, because now, well, after all, mr. danilov, on our broadcast, the secretary of the national security and defense council said that the situation there is very difficult, so crooked there is a video connection, but the audio is not coming, we will configure ostap drozdov, no questions, there is already a

connection, no, at the moment, it is not so interesting to hear your opinion about everything. here is everything that was said, i did not want to interrupt skype, it will be very well-deserved people really speak only in the war resource are also in a professional and so on, we have not moved into a phase in many why already the limit of this primary primary all-support is little by little saving it is normal this is good there is no need to be afraid of this and healthy societies should definitely put for many reasons, it is not for reasons to blame someone for something, and so on, just to do analytics for yourself about the quality of the management of your government, which in the conditions of war is no longer political, but whether it is military or military-political, there are many different reasons. here is our colleague, the deputy from i found out and even remembered the price of one hundred for which i think that arseniy petrovich

should have been prosecuted a long time ago, because if we find out how much 1 m of ordinary mesh costs in terms of cost, then we will probably see things in general. we think for sure in us it will be the most expensive net on planet earth, or maybe it’s all the way to chumatsky, and one of the reasons is very simple, because someone wanted to make money on large-scale construction, cut defense budgets, remove the counter-sniper function from the advanced air reconnaissance and so on. and have fun in a big economy and think that he will develop the country in the conditions of the whole world, reports are coming that your country is going to be destroyed, so it was flashing and everyone in the western intelligence agencies was talking about it, so why are they really focusing on well

this is irrefutable, unfortunately for me , the ukrainian government was not born on the morning of february 24, for me it has remained a little professional , and that is why mr. kryvonos, whom mr. general and i interviewed a year ago, back in the conditions of conditional peace , and he simply shouted and shouted when only draft laws on territorial defense began, this is the same phenomenon of the last year, suddenly he asked people to be included in this process, he asked the authorities to finally do it qualitatively , to think over, to teach society well, just to be in war conditions elementary behavioral reflexes to inoculate in the conditions of war and this was actually unheard of until the 24th this is the answer to the question why we are closing this issue now and so on regarding too much i want to say because these are turning points here absolutely my colleagues have already

said everything i in general when uh, well, when it was skype with the secretary of the national security council, i asked him about us for a reason, because i disagree that it was actually a consolidated position of the entire ukrainian government as a fist of one. another cannot tell what his opinion is. because he is so smart he is a man, the weight of his words is very important, he did everything right, i respect him absolutely. and i want to continue this topic because there was such a large amount of amplitude from the antagonistic denial of nato to nato, hallelujah, nato is the best, no country has had in all history and we must remember that we are the country that passed the path from yanukovych's collapse when the pen was already in the seventh or eighth year to release it 15 years ago, we would have done it all long ago before the inclusion

of nato's entry into the constitution carousels, we keep coming and when i talk about some nato, i immediately get a walk , you know the image of some kind of babushka, you understand what it is, you understand these disposable balls of yours, you understand, but he will tell you everything, how bad nato is and why the bill for this line in hust is absolutely and she will ask something about nato, she will tell you a typical set of some kind of capitalist organization, well, it’s just absolutely trash , so it seems to me that this is still too much for the heads of those people who are close to making a decision in ukraine and it seems to me that in the field you have something of the establishment, there are two, after all, two, two such manifestations are about nato, which are absolutely adequate, conscious , professional, we heard it, and there is an anti-nato wing

, which will always be tied to some agency of a hostile state and it exists and it writes some articles there, financed there, somewhere there, it will write articles and post them in blumber because we have this wing because we still have stereotypes about nato that the soviets still live and the soviets, all the peoples, are too much for us. wanted at all would close the country of ukraine with one simple thing with an application, the following and forget about it, the norm in the constitution is good, but this is an intention, this is an eventual validity of the application, the application means that ukraine must submit an application that will lie on the table, this will actually be a public proclamation of its intention, this completely changes the price the scale and value of the war and everything and nato topics we will not have and indeed a political

component regarding claims regarding nato over a colleague said this is a separate topic in a separate case we are taking it out because now i see total sabotage of all european union and nato processes, especially those related to anti-corruption and especially those related to the transparency of administration and reporting on the waste of money, there are people in the ukrainian government in these matters who will stand firm and say no until the end, they will come up with hundreds of reasons why all these questions why are we actually not postponing for later, but society should somehow i think it is correct to treat this and understand that in fact we have much higher goals than the wishes of some individual disaffected persons on which the cartel, which already ca n’t wait for another tranche for some

ring road to bypass it, has probably waited. it seems to me that these things cannot be compared and it is a criminal crime to put the security of your country on the same schalke scale, because without nato they will simply wipe it off your face i'm sorry, we won't. and there are some people with their own interests there because they want to control the budgets and not report to anyone. i think this moment is already suitable, this is probably a question for the fall , this moment is suitable when we will talk about it we will still have to ask these questions, how should the war in ukraine end nato secretary general, most likely this war will end at the negotiating table, our responsibility is to ensure the strongest possible position of ukraine and help it remain a sovereign and independent european youth and the best way to do is to provide powerful military support, economic

support and introduce tough sanctions against russia, nato secretary general and jens toltenberg said. synyutka lyubomyr melnychuk, for me, nato is one of the components of our future victory, because if we simply drive the enemy out of the territory of our land, sooner or later the muscovite will climb to kharkov and to zaporizhzhia and to donetsk and to luhansk and to crimea. no doubt , to warn him that it is very easy to become a member of the largest and strongest security alliance in the world, which protects a billion people, can protect ukraine with 40 million people, and really, let's think for ourselves in this studio. discussions whether or not to join ukraine in nato is not all

unequivocally in favor asked ukrainians ukrainians do you see the entrance to joining not in nato 80% said yes we see read the constitution of ukraine there it is written the path of ukraine is the path to the euro-atlantic community , that is, to nato and what do we get on in practice and in practice unfortunately, everything is very, very ambiguous. we heard from the secretary of the national security and defense council of the country. he is far from the last person in our country. he clearly says that he sees ukraine as a member of nato and there is no doubt, it would seem. but last week, on the eve of the alliance summit, we heard the words, more precisely, we read them in one of the leading western publications of the deputy head of the president's office, mr. zhovkva, who wrote

that we will not move to the side too much, and this was done on the eve of the summit - this is a public and personal statement that no one did not deny it, and it would seem that the deputy head of the president's office is probably not the highest official in the ukrainian state, but it turns out that this deputy head of the president's office, who you are, is in one of the key western newspapers publishes a thesis that ukraine is not joining nato, heads the delegation of ukraine to the madrid nato summit, friends. how can we become members of the north atlantic defense alliance with such approaches? he picks up all the signals very clearly and i think that no one in nato has forgotten the refusal of the president of ukraine in

the 20th year to participate in the 21st year to participate. a simple step, honestly, i expected from the supreme commander in his speech during the meeting of the nato heads of state a very clear message, we want, we, the ukrainian state, we want to receive an action plan regarding nato membership, here is our application, please consider, if you want to say no , then honestly say no, we don't we heard this from the supreme commander-in-chief, we, as a ukrainian state, which today is de facto fighting at the expense of the resources of ukrainian soldiers of ukrainian society and the finances and weapons of nato countries, do not present an official position on joining nato, but who we will then be accepted if we ourselves do not offer it and do not want it, that is why i have a very

clear position regarding too much today society is in favor of accession today the constitution clearly says today on the front lines ukrainian soldiers are fighting at the expense of those resources of heavy weapons because for three years we have not produced anything of our own which nato helps us and we say give more because what you give is extremely little and at the same time higher state officials do not want to take a very clear step to make an application and receive an action plan regarding membership in nato but i am an optimist and i am convinced that high-ranking officials will not go anywhere because either they will take a step of ukraine on behalf of ukraine to nato or simply people will replace them because if 80% of people are in favor of joining, then it should be done by the ukrainian government and i am convinced that our the question of joining the north atlantic defense alliance is only a matter

of time, and today we must integrate more closely into the military sphere, because our military doctrine today must be very different from what the muscovites propose because muscovites climb and put people down. they have never reckoned with people. soldiers are nothing to them. we must protect every ukrainian soldier, every life of a ukrainian soldier - this is the value of this value in the western world - this is the value in ukraine, and today we must receive more and more from nato weapons and financial resources and, of course, to release their own, because i will say it again. it's a pity that my colleague left. i just wanted to remind him that the data of neptune's range of 290 km alder modernized 130 km bohdana barrel self-propelled artillery installations of 40 km, if for three years our

ukroboronprom had systematically acted for us, we would have produced much less, we would have had to ask nato today, let’s have fighters there, they are with us on skype, yevgeny karas, a nationalist, a member of the armed forces of ukraine, glory to ukraine, yevheny, how is the situation at the front now, where you know, it is interesting for our audience to hear it directly from those who are fighting and who are protecting us. the last trip was to severodonetsk, but with the withdrawal of troops from us, we transferred to an intermediate base, now in we are reorienting ourselves to another sector. well, near north donetsk, where it was the most difficult if there was a clash where the concentration of russian troops was the greatest, it is clear that both sides are tired, they are advancing very cautiously, but if in principle our strategy now can be defensive, we restrained the troops in syro-donetsk for that so that in the kherson region we are advancing so that

something caught fire there and blackened on the island of the snake here in the south we are advancing and it is very wonderful because in fact now despite popularization of the difficult material and technical condition of the russian troops, they are still numerically and especially in the artillery, everyone has known this for a long time very much prevail, but the artillery hits inaccurately , often in the wrong place, and severodonetsk showed that, in principle, we are able to fulfill absolutely all the tasks that were set severodonetsk i think lasted the longest, longer than our team planned, we pulled out the enemy's troops before the arrival of new weapons, and relatively speaking, the bank is intact in the entire sector for long-range artillery of these same himars complexes, it is such that even as it has already started that every day one or two warehouses explode. so it was not long left for the russians to try their last offensive, therefore, in principle, maybe somewhere there will be attempts by the russians to attack, uh, quite large-scale, but it’s just ours and the defense strategy, they are suffering huge losses and we see that now it is rather not about them strategically trying to

win something somewhere, but they are simply trying to enter into the peace talks they are currently dreaming of for more positions that are convenient for them well, so far they have not succeeded, and you started talking about severodnotsk and said that it was even possible. of a certain expediency to withdraw from lysychansk for a certain time, because the city is almost completely surrounded , after all, the secretary of the national security council was on the air today, and danylovky says that the higher military leadership of the state clearly understands all the complexity of the situation around lysychansk, what can you say about it? well, understanding that you are a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine and all secrets cannot be given out, you can fight for lysychansk. there are good positions there, in any case, there is a height from the north donets side , and there is also a shoulder for the evacuation of the wounded. it is very good, it does not have its own river to swim

on, why did it come under fire, vysochansk is a big city, the fact that they went somewhere in the southern outskirts of it well, it’s nothing, what if they went there. well, you must understand what it is. it was stretched very much from north to south, and the southern part is separated by a tunnel that is now destroyed, and we can advance and it is not behind it, that is, the height is behind us, and there we can still defend ourselves by jumping as long as there is a desire of our general staff to leave it or not, it is necessary to know what plans we have operationally in this area, how many russian troops are concentrated, what are our plans there, in any case, russia is advancing very slowly, losing a lot of troops, so its defense if it continues so there is expediency in this, er, some kind of encirclement there is a tragedy, you see. until now, russian propaganda believes that there are golden and mountainous encirclement there, there are three aircraft carriers with 15,000 ukrainian troops there, zelenskyi’s prisoner surrendered and they still think that i think you are in north donetsk, the fact that our troops are stationed in them now is a favorite pastime, they are shooting , missed the positions, the russians bombed the golden mountains, when our 50 were no longer in north donetsk

, they were often in empty trenches, that's why the command thinks that the situation is better here, it's not so much there the situation there is critical, there is some kind of environment there. well, the track is not so much for me that there is. counter strikes can happen er and i think that well, we will see more closely in the coming days how it will develop here so far it is difficult to guess without er orientation on ground on the date of which troops are directly with me. my comrade of the national guard who defended rubizhne and then in severodonetsk, now they have left there and now when he wants to return, he says because it is cool in lysychansk, very close to the target, you can bomb. and what about weapons or that's enough now there is something in the east that the fighters are saying. well, we accidentally shot at the north donets town of noveli, and we didn't even want to. and that's how it happened. there, a little bit of kadirov people were surrounded by the black earth, and they immediately left their positions, and the militiamen, too. they had such a strategy in general. the strategy of the russian

troops is sending 20 soldiers who are a kind of moving target for our soldiers, we shoot at them, they die, the russian tank is trying to see where the fire is coming from and trying to aim somewhere, it did not work again they do it again and again, that is, if they feel resistance, they immediately retreat, that is, from frontal attacks of tank columns, native offensives of all this . because it is precisely in north donetsk that there would be , for example, 1,000 more soldiers if there is a khimarka. it would be possible to stay there until moscow burns down, but as for the artillery, well, even in difficult conditions, north donetsk lysychansk was enough to hit the targets, in particular , and this one, their first attack on lysychansk came from the south through bilhorod. and this is this sector, that's where our artillery stopped them, in fact , here they did not reach the infantry, they all scattered and waited there until morning what will happen next because of that artillery of course they have more artillery and you

our artillery, well, for now i would be satisfied, i would be in almost all sectors, that is, there is something to shoot everywhere, everywhere they ask for it everywhere, our artillerymen repeat - they rub their calloused hands and ask only better adjustment of fire, uh, how much if this weapon became bigger, then it presented, as it were, such a very strong, not just moral, because the russian army is now already moral, it is so suppressed, but it has already led to the actual loss. i think the ability to control the troops because there were simply all possible headquarters to which we can reach are broken in our country now, uh, they are hitting the front targets, what was missing right now was the long-range artillery, which arrived a little bit on mars, and god forbid, the british will come to us, wife antonyuk uh, 270 if the complexes are tracked, then when the headquarters and the artillery depots began to explode, i am not talking about the quotes of our general staff. i am simply reading the russians, the russian officers, what they write, they began to worry two weeks ago about what will happen to the lpr sortilleries, because the artillery the warehouses began to explode methodically and at such a pace. i

think that well, what were we waiting for ? experts spoke with the secretary of the national security council and with oleg zhdanov at the beginning of the interview about a possible attack from belarus and well, in fact, the experts do not rule it out and say that this, you know, can testify for our front that it will simply stretch out and that well, it will be difficult for the military, how do you see it, analyze it, and is it possible to somehow prepare for it, what should we do now , including, look at us here, the russians are in kyiv, he was considered unlikely by our general staff, and then many people there reproached that and you said that kiev will not be attacked, but there are factors of russian debilism, and we will erect more than one

monument to him, whole avenues will be named so. it is quite strange, but it will have to be done because they attacked kyiv, and from a military point of view, this is very good because all these troops were later scattered there , ran away and forgot the soldiers, lost a lot of brand new equipment, and if they had attacked then from volyn and lviv, then it is possible that the war has already ended, that is, in fact, due to the attack on kyiv they showed everything for the first time the world that they are wild monkeys, secondly, they lost control of the troops and very significant losses were incurred there and stretched their chains, they were demoralized when they did not escape from kyiv, all these troops rushed to donbas, but they already felt what it is like when ukrainians give them a kick in the ass and the offensive from belarus now he has no strategic goal to seize kiev from us here from belarus - this is the last reserve of russia lukashenko, as you can see, is shrewdly shaking his mustache and asking to be as far away from this as possible if he is everything will be drawn in, then it will be a problem for us, because our front will expand, we will be fighting somewhere in the chernobyl zone. they like radiation, you can see. again, they will crawl somewhere there

. if so. well, because radiation turned neanderthals into humans according to one of the theories evolution can and that's why it pulls there, accordingly, there will be battles again somewhere on the approaches to kyiv , somewhere in the north of zhytomyr. that's the problem, because there will be more people arriving in peaceful cities, but are there any healthy military men, it will be the last russia's reserve, and now we are looking at a different situation. europe will see that putin no longer pulls out for him, he already has vnr, this is again, i have said it more than once and i repeat it again according to russian data. because they themselves write in the lpr, they already mobilized diabetics, but insulin recently the practice is normal, they already have diabetics calling for nothing but to fight accordingly if belarus is included europe understands that this is already putin's last reserve since they have already dragged the war as close as possible to europe two and three belarussians - 60% of the population want armed revolutions the forces are small. well, how many offensive groups are there? well, there will be five btgs, and these are the belarusians. as you saw, they know how to build pyramids of people there, that is, they still live according to some soviet films. and what should the spetsnaz

do ? er, and accordingly, these troops are not worn out by war, they will not create significant difficulties there, but i think it will speed up the fact that the baltic countries will remember the ancient beautiful principality of lithuania and the poles, too, i think will join this beautiful process. and the people of belarus will only to be invited as peacekeepers. i think that here on the side of belarus, we will have some military problems that are not critical, that is, people will die, this is a problem for us, but from that point of view, the end of the war hastened and in terms of how our allies will react because we are now protecting europe, it is not that europe is helping him . europe is protecting itself accordingly now if belarus joins in. i think that these dances of putin will end much faster. thank you yevhen karas . thank you for protecting ukraine and thank you for timism, it is important to see that the people at the front are really in a good, good combat humor, they are in your person evgeny karas, and the monument to russian debilism should quite possibly become a state

program, theoretically we know that we have to let tsimbalyuk go, then yurynets, so you are at your word and uh after the bruise let's train well, it's just a schedule , thank you, well, it's really very positive optimism of our comrade from the front, and indeed glory to the armed forces of ukraine, and in summary, i can say that ukraine is really not going to have easy summer months and here i agree with danilovym talking with experts, unfortunately, there will not be a turning point yet, we have to wait for more weapons of the united states to go to poland, and somewhere around september, september will show itself when the armed forces of ukraine can actually launch a missile counteroffensive. unfortunately , it is still in the russian federation has plenty, they are no

longer so accurate, and there is a risk that the belarusians have started already now , and this is visible not only through the satellite . about the fact that lukashenko as belarus as a state has been completely dragged into the war, giving territory since february 24, giving territory for the entry of ground troops and also for raising planes from the airports , e. and the personnel of russia in the armed forces of belarus, and this is already confirmed by many sources, this is evidence that lukashenko

unfortunately does not affect the process, but i agree with the military that now the border with belarus is on it takes away the strength of a serious military castle, but the armed forces of ukraine are ready to give at any moment a worthy age glory to ukraine and i am sure that we will win, mr. mykhailo, have a good trip, yes, if you are going, well, for today, we are very well aware of all our responsibility, it is very important to us now, as well how with such optimism, with such a smile, with such an analytical uh mind, ah , model and put everything together correctly here, where we are in our place, we should do it, you, as journalists , we should teach the youth, i know today i remember the one that took place in december, we held

this parliamentary assembly with the youth, which is now the youth in the volunteer headquarters, as she understands very well that it was important to accept the status of a candidate for ukraine, because it is the framework of those reforms, the necessary changes that are needed, because in fact these changes and reforms of our country ratification of conventions on the speed of crossing, for example, goods, these are such simple, ordinary, elementary things that a society that removes a lot of corrupt things should develop, this is all ahead, we have to do it, we have to be at the level of the public sector to continue this work with what we have and what we can because it is important in general ukraine is unique in that we have many public associations, many people who are trying to resist in their place to make weddings from ukraine my name is hryhoriy zhagalov, we are summing up this day together, great britain allocates a billion pounds for ukraine