he may simply exclaim. therefore, it may seem that he does not understand anything about economics, mr. volodymyr. well, the truth is. well, there are such people who do not understand anything about economics. putin is such a person. i am not even saying that i understand anything about economics, but i think that i'm better than just not understanding, no, i'm serious, when the whole economy, well, actually, the entire economic sector, people who suffer from it and such people understand it very well . those who manage these people, sir volodymyrets look, i don't know how popular she is in russia, but the other version, which i think embodies in herself and putin among others, is on the contrary, the more threats and problems, the more we russians

unite as one around stalin, around the communist party, around putin in this case, yes you you don't love us such enemies. on the contrary, we will not go to the squares and shout. we will grit our teeth and despite the fact that we will have 200 g of bread a day, we will stand and not let any western infection into our holy russian land, and we will endure it or well, of course, this is also a variant of a colleague. this is also something that completely fits into the russian ideological attitude, but, well, let's still agree that this is not the time of the ussr, that it is not iron the curtain that was then lowered in front of the borders of the soviet union, these are after all people who saw something, at least

in the same turkey or in egypt, and who understand that there may be other options for some kind of development for themselves and for their e- e countries well, in the end , if even these people are ready to have their teeth vaccinated they will see that there is nothing to feed their family well then, i guess they will have to put a husband, we lower it to such a level, so it seems to me that now it is a combination of two things, military and aid to ukraine in order to beat the orks on the battlefield and in the eye crazy economic sanctions that should grow even more and more will give in the end the result when russian society begins to feel on its skin that this is a policy that

will lead to uh big problems for every average russian although no matter how he was uh fed by russian tv with the fight against imperialism, fascism, nazism and other and idiosyncratic things that have been in that match and football for 30 years. and tell me, did you read the text of the phone conversation between putin and macron on the eve of putin's invasion ? putin doesn't look like a person detached from reality at all, he 's just completely like that. that's how he looks, of course. well, and what? and he's... look, he's proving to everyone that, first of all, he's inadequate, that he lied, that he a person who cannot be believed that the collective action of all civilized countries should really be directed against him and that he will actually be punished for this, including personally

through sanctions against him and his closest circle, but i repeat once again to me it seems that the greatest punishment will be an economic stranglehold that will tighten on the throat of this half-dead russian economy stronger and stronger, and it will give its first results, i think, in the nearest time, that is, already throughout the fall. well, what thank you, mr. volodymyretsko, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and a former diplomat, diplomats are not former diplomats, they are always diplomats . okay, let's try. is

it appropriate, although it is appropriate here, i did not understand why it should be carried out during a full-scale war in the face of the elimination of the electronicization of the ministry of the gambit itself. well, i think that the issue there is optimization administrative activity can be in any material greatly reduce its problems yes, why what is the problem, it is obvious that ukraine has more ministries than in many european countries, no less developed than ukraine, to put it mildly, therefore it will never be superfluous to reduce the number of officials other, other, other, other, you understand, i have the impression that there are obvious things, these things are not like that, oh, it is difficult to invent if in america, in england or in germany, there are 10 or 12 or 15 ministries, and in ukraine 30, then to prove that it is possible to govern ukraine from 15 there is no need for ministries. if a much stronger

economy can get by on the 15th, then why not a weaker one can't get by, that's why it seems to me that this is the story when it's lying somewhere, this idea is somewhere in a drawer, they just need to be pulled out to see independently war, not war, before the war, after wars and so on, and therefore in general i believe that many reforms should be carried out precisely during the war and there are signs that the government and the administration are thinking about it, well, they are not thinking, they are even doing something, some kind of reforms that ukraine was waiting for ten years ago, suddenly here, somewhere in march , april, they started discussing these reforms, well, god forbid, i am only for the second question. when will the only marathon, so to speak, take its place, why did we talk about ukrainian freedom of speech on german television, why now, 2-3 months

ago ? jump, i don't know when the only marathon will end, maybe when the war ends, then it will end, or they will decide that if it started with the war, it probably has to end, the changes of german television will be discussed ukrainian freedom of speech because two or three months ago there were simply more urgent issues that were discussed in connection with ukraine, there was an active phase of military operations, there was an offensive of the russian army, and now, of course, colleagues are interested in the state of ukrainian society. we are also more we are talking about freedom of speech now, two or three months ago, it seems absolutely logical to me, moreover, after applying for the european union, the vigilance of the eyes of the west is already increasing . to you, when it is in the conditions of the european commission, how come german television also knows about this language and will watch about holes in the asphalt, which means they stole it, it means low-quality asphalt, which means they continue corruption schemes. so we have to

look more closely not only at the freedom of slovenes, they must pass freely to attack volodymyr zelenskiy without falling through a single hole with rings like that i gave disaster zakablukav zakablukav disaster gave so so so so so what do you mean, will belarus go for another invasion from the north, asks mr. roman well, we we discussed it in detail with the lady, happily, and it seems to me that there is nothing more for me to add. no , i will be here. it seems to me that the short answer is very simple. if you look at it logically, then no, but you and i are dealing with putin and lukashenko, where there is no logic and suddenly one will wake up. with some other idea to seize something, he will call the other and they will both give some order in unison, and this is absolutely logical, but we are just witnesses, the whole world has been witnesses in recent months, absolutely similar to what

mr. grizko was saying now, obviously what will happen the economy and every russian family will suffer in a month, not in a month, in two, in two, yes , in three, but exactly before the new year, and he went for it. the authors correctly ordered in favor of the justification of the russian beasts, or was it a negligent journalist, why have other journalists, opinion leaders, not yet declared their outrage at such a trojan horse? it seems to me that many leaders have declared that there are people who help who are talking about it one opinion by the way opinion leaders who have a different opinion this discussion is nothing to worry about i believe that the authors of the article could have thought about their resonance in general about the use of these these things even if they believed that the ukrainian boatswain is already now a former lady o butcevo exceeded her

authority when talking about russian crimes or did not find a sufficient evidence base for her messages, by the way, about the evidence base if we are now looking for an evidence base in every official message to the ukrainian there may be problems, as always happens during war, most of the leading western media, when quoting ukrainian or russian sources , report that be vigilant be vigilant , yes, no, they cannot confirm this from independent sources, this is how war generally looks, and when suddenly we take one official, one the tape, the information says. and you have no evidence here, or work with someone else, work as traitors under the head of the office of the president of ukraine. look at the evidence of some information that you do not give, so they can’t continue. by the way, again, i am not criticizing here. you can’t give a lot

of information, you can’t give evidence, because otherwise you expose the sources, and during the war, this means death for people who can be sources . there is one more point that i would touch on, trying to be very careful because the scum will come out. exactly on my head. it seems to me that ukrainian journalism as such, well, to put it mildly, does not work very well with words with a word with a phrase in such things, you have to be super careful and find absolutely correct in this case, er, excitement, the formulation of sentences, our thoughts for some reason information, because for me, journalists are semi- writers, they must strive for a post to choose words, it is the responsibility of the people who write how much mykola and i worked

. by these standards, you are always surprised by this incredible irresponsibility, which is very often present in the journalism of new and newly independent states, it was called that state, let's say, which did not have free journalism until 1991. this it seems that it is not only ukraine, but it applies to all those countries in which journalism used to be subject to censorship and the journalist is used to what the censor is responsible for. so you write an article on wednesday, i remember, and it comes out on friday. what do you have to brag about if you are even admissible, he will do everything himself in the newspaper, the truth is that the inspection department occupied floor to floor with 25 offices to check everything, every phrase of every initial comrade, you know that, petrovka, it’s not like that, not with

a smile, like you, who, and that’s how the system functioned, then when this system disappeared, systems of self-responsibility did not arise, but we very often have such problems, so here i read from reproaches and excuses, and i saw that such the number of interpretations as a result of the use of this word and there is some other one, perhaps, which must be searched for, found , put in a suitable place, and then the citizens of readers or listeners or viewers will no longer have variability, he meant this and others say no he meant it means three find the word he is trojan bones says my he is just being taken to clean water will the fifth question continue n roman will it continue calmly as the day before yesterday next he prisoners with fighters azostali i do not know this

i ho- it i hope i was absolutely shocked that it was going on at all. yes, this is already happiness. this is something completely not russian. this is something not russian because we see cries for speeches at the state duma , the parliament and there myself so that we will not allow it. we will ban it and yes, but it is happening, let's we cross our fingers and wish for the release of all ukrainian soldiers of any kind and hostages, and at any cost, the whole story is suppressed. the sixth question about the macedonian church. is the granting of independence to the macedonian church to the serbian clergy inconsistent with the requirements of granting autocephaly to the same patriarchate of constantinople ? it was said by the constitutional patriarchate itself and the macedonian church itself, the representatives of which said that they would expect to receive the tomos tomos from the constantinian patriarch and to give them they considered tomos the patriarch of seb to be the settlement of relations between the macedonian and serbian churches. then they will not be naive. the serbian

church made it special, it is clear just so that it is obvious that world orthodoxy is in a crazy, comprehensive crisis . performed with 50 there in the fifth year they were saying that well this is ah yes yes yes yes we will give them i say let's see how you sing now yes it is and this is a crisis crisis crisis and it is necessary to understand it what is there it is a beautiful story that the royal church gave the macedonian church the name of autocephaly under the name macedonian autocephalous orthodox church. the kostopil patriarch says that they have to solve it with the greeks. what do the greeks want you to be called ohrid ? historical-bulgarian name it should be called the macedonian autocephalous

church as it is not called kak mne nazy after the church we are asked how can you joke about beaches in odesa, if there are so many dead today, we did not joke about mr. hryhoriv about the beach and in winter, on the contrary, we expressed admiration for how people behave at the moment of danger, such sheer danger that they continue to live, and you too. i also highly recommend it. no, i do. i say it again on this one on other programs this is putin's dream so that we don't joke this is a dream we went to the beach we didn't go to the beach we didn't go to the cinema we didn't go to a cafe we didn't drink beer and we cried from morning to night oh how we all used to this is putin's dream odessans have their own season place of course now there are a lot of tourists, to put it mildly , but they live a full life in this

beautiful city, this is just a manifestation of courage. they lived in horror, the moment when we start living like this, it will mean that russia has won, while we have smiles, while we make fun of ourselves and the enemy, we are alive and we live, as i recently listened to a former journalist, well, you know his wedding in andrii and he said ukrainians are alive and we are dead this was a very revealing moment for me that despite the war on our territory, ukrainians are alive people i want to raise another question we now had i'm drinking tea with milk from my cup, it's very simple, it's

british, it's very ukrainian, it's so simple, file , five, five, as it is written, and i'm doing well . could you tell us more? about these changes, these will be changes for the better, i think you don't understand me very well. i'm talking about the fact that the mood of ukrainian society after the war will differ beyond recognition from the mood in the military society. i.e. yes, yes, this is such anesthesia, in any case, what kind of problem do you have? yes, you have a headache day and night. yes, and suddenly you have pain , and you don’t need medicine.

focused only on one thing how to survive during the war, they say the war is over, but then it turns out that you have other problems, there are a lot of them, you can just not notice them much now or consider them secondary, they will settle by themselves when the war is over, and now imagine that the war is over and the problems remain and have increased many times and i will not say whether these changes will be for the better or not because we do not know what kind of conclusions you will draw we are people you can read the books of great writers i know not mavka yes yes yes hemingway, what did societies look like after the war, they were completely different from pre-war and wartime societies - it is always a romantic society, no wonder it sounds, because it is a society in which people live one day as if it were the last and then as the war ends, they

start making plans and these plans may differ from those plans that the state, only the state, absolutely has on them. for example, i foresee huge criticism again with very simple words. well, we understand. now why so and now why so why didn't you do so then and why are you doing so now and everything why are you so critical and so internal how to say that speech we know what it will be like we don't even know how it will treat the enemy after after the war is over, that is, he will remain. well, some people will say that it is necessary to separate the candle from him. well, it is necessary to somehow adjust to such families, neighbors, it is necessary that he does not attack again. you during the war yes they talked and didn't bother about it, there was also a war and again, and that's why i keep saying, uh, get ready for the

problems that you may have if you don't understand these changes that will be inevitable, i think that it's just that well, as they say, it's not in time analyze it, we will not analyze it, no sociologist will tell you this, so a sociologist can now see the mood of people in a state of war and there in many issues 90%. trust there is 90%. nato is with 90%. return all territories 90% example we can't get into putin's head like stalin but stalin made extraordinary efforts after the end of the second world war, because this is romanticism. now you can breathe freely, do it freely, do it freely, and there is nothing free here. on may 9, 1945 , everything ended, and that's how democracy and

famine and the weapons of the press and anti- semitism again, the whole family elephants, everything in the world, everything was done, it was an extraordinary effort, it is not known where it was scarier in the 49th or in the 37th, absolutely exactly . that is why we say that we will live in a completely different state than the ones we lived in before the 20th century february 24, 2002 and definitely in a different state than the one in which we live now and no one can change it. now i am surprised by the people who are preparing for this and think that they can prepare for this. do you understand this, this is such a wave as tsunami, show yourself that it just happened, here we are just standing in front of a wall of water. because here everything is burning, shooting, exploding, and then this water is definitely all like this massif on the country of attack, it will cover it with these moods unknown to us, we do not know

what is in this water. can be clean or dirty yes will she carry stones or not, of course, of course , that is, don't, don't predict, you just know that post-war society is different from war-time societies, as if we are talking about different countries, about completely different countries, you have never seen the kind of country you will see after the war, and you should understand that too and there will be something with a plus that there will be something changed there will be changes for the better there will be changes for the better and there will be very negative changes at the same time yes yes uh, what country do you see after the collapse of russia beyond the ural mountains, where is siberia, transbaikalia, the far east asks volodar zagorodne, she wanted to ask there mr. hrytska, i would say that these questions should be asked of our sector - what kind of chinese company is it? it seems to me that the role of china in kazakhstan, by the way, will increase. i am absolutely convinced that the disintegration and weakening of russia, i already read it in the

kazakh media mass media in the analyzes that all these speeches by takayev in st. petersburg is a sign of russia's weakening and if it continues like this, it will be interesting to watch this story here, i don't know, for me, siberia is like the moon like how mars it was siberia i wasn't i know what type that for me it's not max and i'd like you max but i want to say something else if possible when they talk about this depravity the fate of russians in of the russian empire was about 40%. in addition, the russians are not russians, that is, the majority of russians are in the small pink belarus, and of these three slavic peoples, 40% were belarusian. imagine what the fate of russians was, somewhere around 25-30. the fate

of russians in the e-e division of the soviet union was said to be about 50%. so when everyone is talking about the collapse of russia of ukrainians they have to say yes, and we do not know how to evaluate ukrainians. in order for our country to fall apart , how many ukrainians are there in ukraine? well, i don't know the percentage of 70. well, you can see how many ukrainians are in ukraine. let's take a look. well, we have an opportunity now, we have the internet, let's look at the number of e-e ukrainians in ukraine per

population, yes, for 78%. it is 2001, i think now. if there were more ethnic ukrainians, well, this is compared to the number of russians. we can clearly see that when putin tries to drag away some ukrainian a region with ethnic ukrainians, we absolutely do not understand why he does this. and i absolutely understood that the ukrainian population of this region should stand out from other ukrainians. well, apply this scale to a state in which there are exactly as many russians as ukrainians in ukraine. ask, and they definitely want it. yes, there is a small population, that's true. not that economically, it is difficult for me to imagine a normal federation with the existence of chechnya, it will not survive there, that's another thing if they are not subsidized, that's another topic, that's another topic of chechnya , relatively speaking, there are some small countries of the caucasus

they may even fall away from such a country, nothing will change at all, well, that’s because these are such small territories. i will even say more that even these separations of the volga region, to look at the territory, not much will change , but again, tatars in tatarstan live somewhere around 30% of tatars out of the total number of tatars in er russia, this must also be realized. i always remind them when they say but why was the jewish population in ukraine or in other countries not divided from the point of view of perception of the independence of er ukraine or for some other reason, because in the russian empire there lived 80% of the jewish population in general, which was in europe. and when they were divided, of course, the jewish national wanted to live in one state, so the tatars need to live in the russian federation with that beginning and the right, i understand when you when you pull where are you going? i am absolutely not 100 percent, far from 100 percent, people are 100 percent a person who says about the inevitability of the

disintegration of russia. if the russians lived in different states, then the germans lived in different states. maybe they would have had such an opportunity. but russians have never lived in different countries, this is a nation that always just went to foreign territory, they were made russian, because siberia, the far east - these are colonized territories and i'm just not very sure. i think that the russian federation has, especially after the russification of all of these peoples of russia, what a terrible russification in general, they are destroying and destroying what we must understand that every time you buryate digestans of the russian army, they do not return home, they do not give birth to children when they go to war in ukraine for ethnic russians - this is not a problem for the buryaks, but for the dagestanis, that is, they have every chance to preserve their territorial integrity, the question is simply what will russia be like in this form, no questions of billions, we are watching we pronounce the word khabarovsk there, listen to

khabarov - this is the executioner of the central committee - this is a murderer. of course. this is a catastrophe. this is just a person who destroyed everything in siberia, who saw all the people . times i will not say it is our good people who went there to ukrainian america, no one considers the hero of the opening, well, the truth is that it was a disaster , the voter disaster, no one believes that it was a disaster, just as no one considers the motorola strilkov disaster, well, that is, people, even the tradition is preserved yes yes and what then i would say even differently, in the part of the territory of russia that our dear is talking about, a much more conservative population lives in terms of views on the empire than in the european part, it won there

zhirynovsky in the 93rd year there if there was a separate state there and the president would be volodymyr zhirynovsky well let's talk next time in a week we will definitely meet i understand that we have 30 seconds this is just the time to say slowly vitaly portnikov mykola veresen air broadcast radio liberty broadcast air radio svobodi thank you for your attention once again and to promote the fund, especially which parliamentarian who signed the petition after her speech in favor of it, i sincerely thank you, i sincerely thank you yes, everything is fine, odesa has been launched by russia with sub-russian missiles odessa region