for what did they risk their lives? so join the all-ukrainian flash mob of thanks to the defenders and the defenders, in fact, give a hand, say kind words, give a standing ovation, honor the heroes. my mother and i are now in warsaw, it is a very beautiful city, but kyiv is more beautiful for me. one day, russia attacked my country, but we were lucky and my mother and i went to poland. i like poland, but i want to return home . i have water, i have a lot of friends in kindergarten. i really want to go home and i will return soon. i am back. i will return. i will return. i will return. i will return. i will return i will return i will return ukraine i

will return when we defeat the evil christians then we will return to our apartment i invite all poles to visit everything will be ukraine blitzkrieg russians in the north the first with whom we faced it was a reconnaissance failed thanks to such fearless soldiers we took up the defense on the road as the border guard vyacheslav, callsign legate, his unit took part in the heroic defense and liberation of sumy region and gave the muscovites a lot of trouble. glory to the heroes glory to ukraine we will continue our broadcast i his chicherina they didn't tell me there will be news

we won't have news obviously there won't be news from us once thank you editors now we will definitely hear alyona lunyova directorkus advocacy center for human rights change good evening to you or can you hear me alyona u he is not there. okay, let me remind you that the parliament last week elected a new parliamentary commissioner of the verkhovna rada of ukraine for human rights. he became a majority mp from donetsk region from volnovakha dmytro lubinets, who was the head of the parliamentary committee for the protection of human rights in our minority, so i would like to talk to alyona about this story, you just let

me know if there is a guest or not. we are looking for our guest, let's watch an interview with the people's deputy of the previous convocation tetyana chornovil, who is now the operator of the ukrainian stugna missile complex, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a chair, a russian armed russian armored vehicle on the front line let's watch tetyana chornobyl, please. i was absolutely convinced that the next kyiv would be from the chernobyl side. i talked about it on the air and i worked like that, that is, a week before the war. i finished the training course and a day before the war . it was a secret that he would attack, western intelligence informed us several months in advance that kyiv would be next, it was not a secret for anyone, everyone could prepare, but some listened to stories about kebabs, and some others prepared, and i will tell you that it is not even somehow so i prepared, as i mean, i took some courses there, i

prepared internally, the most important thing is that a large part of ukraine was prepared internally, that is why we were able to quickly mobilize and select it. by the way, i thank western development for warning, if it were not for this warning, there would have been no internal training worse, the first days everything somehow went like that and the positions i had prepared could not be occupied for various reasons. do you understand that a person came to the course and that's all , even those who passed early, even those who were already using these fat corsairs in the ato, it was a completely different war, you had to understand how to use these weapons in combat conditions and the first and first days of the war there was something like that in metania without any success in principle, in the end i got my first combat experience in chernihiv in chernihiv ah and

then i actually worked in the defense of kyiv under the breweries that is, i stood there for a month there i stood for a month during this month we had two fights but i held the front line, that is, i held the front line with current, although in principle stugna is a weapon and ambushes are weapons of some kind of sabotage, but in the first days of the war, i had to hold the front, that is, my stugna was inscribed in the front line. that is, it is an alternation of an alternation of an alternation, but when the tanks leave, you have to shoot the first battle was very difficult. the first battle was a huge column coming to brovary. it was just huge. there were just a lot of tanks. i'll tell you that, i don't remember. yes, it was without any emotions. it took so much. we had only two hits at that time, i will tell you, and our position was not good, and there were not many rockets in principle. yes , we

had two hits in our small unit of mine at that time, ah, well, i remember i'm sorry. this is already the second battle. yes, when we were already waiting, we were already preparing. we were standing on the front line, and the enemy had already moved away from kyiv. the 72nd began to pursue him. that is, we were leaving it was very fast and many things remained in place. and when we had already returned from konotop, i went to the position. take things from my there from my cache and went up to the bridge. where stugna was standing and there. here, lying down, this is already a tube. this is a tube from the rocket that stopped it . one tank attack. that is, it was not the first, not the first attack. it was some kind of attack in the direction of kyiv along the brovary highway, and when the tanks began to approach, they moved to my line. i shot the first tank, they then

turned around and ran away. textbooks on how to stop a huge tank column with small forces and there is this video where the tanks just burst into flames like matchboxes and this is the voice behind the screen from the sixth tank regiment , the commander was defeated, the commander was killed, well, this is a well-coordinated work of the 72nd in the first place and by the way and first of all, that corsair on the bridge that i was talking about, that is, during the second attack, this kartsarishchik, who during this first battle, he was the main one who stopped that attack, he was wounded and his corsair was knocked out, if you count the work of the anti-tank missile system, it is mostly intact stugna, why is it so unique, you understand that it is not the weapon that shoots. the shooter is the most important thing . the stugna in many of its parameters is inferior to

other atgms, different and western, and even in certain parameters it is inferior to russian atgms, but there is an emphasis on preserving life the shooter does not sit near the thigh. the shooter does not sit , for example, the russian cornet - it is actually the same. the thigh is the same rockets with 10 kg, the same range of 5 km, but there the shooter is sitting near the installation. well, there he is on his knee. yes, and he is shooting near the pillar no, the shooter is not standing, why is he not standing, and why is it so important? the shooter is first on the remote control. yes, i shoot from the remote control. i have a 50 m wire. 50 m, for example, when i was shooting in a mountain range, a shooter shouted at me - i was standing on a bridge. and i was under a bridge, under a bridge, a cliché, it was the best place, any projectile could kill it, it would fall, but then we even pulled it tight to the edge and climbed into the sewer myself.

i was completely protected. so, after that, i was completely protected what does this mean? do you understand this, including the psycho-nervous state of a military man who shoots tanks? he is absolutely confident in himself. he is confident in what kind of protection he has . that is, let it all be, but here is a state when you are confident, you feel safe, it gives you the opportunity in extreme conditions, again, well, to be much more accurate, again, yeah, uh, uh, to do more risky operations, that's why this stugna is in fact, it turned out to be a unique weapon that has a unique result because the thigh of a military man is not cannon fodder in the thigh of a military man - it is a professional who survives because he is protected and accordingly has a greater range , which means that each subsequent shot of his is

more professional, professional knock us played a very big role in the first months of the war, i will not talk only about kyiv, it played a role on all fronts on all fronts, here i am, for example, near kryvyi rih, then again, the first bmps were there they were knocked down from the roof directly from the roofs of the building that they were approaching and believe me, it has a very big psychological effect on the enemy, they are very afraid, in general, anti-tank missiles have such an effect and also scare, but we have panic, because when you are driving, it suddenly hits you and everything is burning and you can see it. well, if you survived. with your own eyes. if you didn't survive, you are us. who is the one who survived? the next time, i will be afraid to drive on this road, that is, i will knock. that is, everyone's role on the fronts of stugna, it was, it was, now, the truth is that the war has changed, it is very difficult now, let's

say, to get to the target, but before they went in columns, stood up in the right place and shot like that, now , uh, the enemy army bypasses all the roads because of longing, they hide along it is difficult for the posadochkas to work now, but in the first months of the war and on the first strike, a lot of targets were hit by us, and a lot of them were stopped by the thighs, precisely with the thighs , and i will say that the weapon simply proved itself, well, in fact, it proved itself better than all of them except that neptune is better the same if it would be better to give a cumulative projectile he pierces armor but very often he behaves strangely i have already shot a lot well so far i have not fully determined his behavior because it happens that um he pierces for example, armor, yes. and you know that you hit, you hit, well, this object continues to stand or even drive, and then it comes for half an hour, it detonates in

mine too. by the way, there was such a case that i hit an armored personnel carrier again. i don't see the results yet, that is i see a hit. i don't see that she got fired up i'm waiting and i'm losing my eyes, that's just golden minutes, i don't remove my thigh, the shelling started and i was damaged, well, these are the nuances of cumulative projectiles, but 80 mm rounds penetrate if you hit well correctly. by the way, or i don't arrive. well, i don't know, to be honest, no i know what it depends on. i just clearly know that a similar russian carnet eh on my front line hit our tank and everyone remained safe and sound. although it hit directly in the turret and should have penetrated and for some reason did not penetrate the tandem charge there too and dynamic protection was not supposed to protect, but for some reason he protected, yes, that is, there are such nuances that you

get enemies, which i also have, and the equipment went further here, god, why didn’t this happen in the offensive stugna bad very bad why because it is very heavy we can’t how to run from tree to tree with a javelin. it weighs more than 100 kg in our country. you can read what's there. it's okay, it's not that heavy, but for some reason they forget to write that you still need to carry the batteries to it. how much does a hundred me weigh? you don't run, that's why in the offensive it's bad. that is, we ca n't take a position very quickly there. we have to sit and chat further. it already has a range of up to 5 km, for example, in our shooting in our shooting we are standing ahead of everyone, but just ahead, and when we stand there, we know that there is no one in front of us, unless our

intelligence there is going forward or sabotage groups and in the rear of the enemy, we are walking, but the observation posts are behind us, the tanks are maneuvering behind us, the infantry is far behind us, and the artillery in general is far behind us. that is , we are at the front. not very much, but on the other hand, we can still organize an ambush where we know the enemy will retreat. that is, this is our job of ambushing. i feel quite comfortable, the only one, sometimes we will say , the amount of risk that can be calmly perceived is exaggerated, that is, from time to time the risk a lot in everything and everything else, in principle, i feel quite confident. my work is very similar to the work of an investigative journalist. yes, when i was there before, for example, i infiltrated mizhhirya two yanukovych. now i am infiltrating the enemy. that is, it is

also important to penetrate i still need to find her position again with tugan. the student does not shoot where someone wants. yes, she only shoots where the enemy moves into direct line of sight. i must see the target for quite a long time because the rocket flies for a long time and the ring does not move very quickly because again the speed it's hard to hit me, even on targets that move quickly, there aren't many rockets shooting at me, of course it would be possible, but i understand that i have a big a-a nuance of not getting in, yes and there are very, very many different water ones, you have to walk, walk, walk ahead to look for, let's say, those places where you can move on. you need to prepare a position. i'm preparing a position , uh, so that it's as safe as possible for the work of my team, uh, because it's always essentially covered after a shot, that is, you need to prepare and retreat, you need to prepare hiding places, yes, where can you to survive a mine attack on the personnel, well, that is, it is such a big job, but this is very

much, i go on reconnaissance a lot, they remind me, in principle, of aa journalistic activity, then i will tell you honestly, i have been preparing for this all my life. i was absolutely convinced that in our there will be an offensive of russia, and when i was still a child, i lost to myself different moments. yes, i lost, er, hmm . er, i again, i lost all those moments when i would have to fight, but never, never, in my thoughts, i could not imagine that i would be a commander, so here i had a new experience, a very new experience that i have to command a unit. to be honest, at first i had a unit quite small and then it increased ah-ah hmm, it did increase again at first. in this way, i, um, i

was a jumper with a thigh. yes, but several thighs were, in principle, in my command, uh, in general, in kiev, and in the places of probable tank breakthrough with good visibility, they were there in case i suddenly work broke and i commanded these people from one side and from the other side, they were always at a distance, that is, they were, in principle, far in the rear, yes, they were very necessary there in case why? well, for example , one held the dam across vyshhorodi, the other one was moaning there, well, she held a huge piece of the district, yes , that is, it was very good such places in the event that they might be needed, but i was still at a distance and somehow well, i am constantly on post under shbybin, and i was very, very honestly worried that once again we will now go to other areas of the front, all these people will be pulled up under my command, how will i deal with them? no, well

, it turned out that in principle everything is fine. the fact that there is a woman, the truth was, there were a lot of problems, because with the boys they were just being teased. yes, but they very quickly found something to answer. the commander scored two well, this is the first time there, well, in the first days, yes. and it immediately made an impression on those who mocked. and now we all work as one team and, in principle, everything is fine with us in this regard. in no case do i plan to survive today during the day, because well, if it’s impossible for me and it’s the same again. terrible cold well, it's simple incredible cold. we were in positions without

any. we couldn't even boil water for ourselves so that we wouldn't be discovered, for example, by drones, because we are again ahead of everyone. yes, we are there. if they find us, they will destroy us in the first days of the war . when it was cold, very cold , it was the worst thing, and it was like that, only the thought of how to live, it will be warm, live to be warm, then you know, we lived to be warm, it’s already such a joy, we saw warmth, we warmed up, we saw spring further on , but at least i can live to see it for myself after all, i still put it like that then we got to the south, and when we got there, oh, for some reason, it was very late spring there, and it was terribly cold in the south, too, just terribly cold, but still, there was a lot of sun, and greens had already started to break through there, and suddenly apricots bloomed, that is, everything stood still it was cold, it was raining , the apricots began to bloom, and i had this thought , i should at least try these apricots here, and i must say that i already tried the first apricot there

, but there are still many on the plantations, we are constantly scrambling along the plantations, i am still waiting for them they will mature, that is, you set yourself some small , small goals and you achieve them, we have already defeated the second army of the world, the point is that putin does not feel sorry for people anymore, for him, the military is just cannon fodder, if there was some kind of approach well as in western countries we would have won the war by now russia capitulated and since there he can throw himself into whatever duties he likes it's all somehow still the way it is and that's why we can already talk about a certain kind of victory yes we have already won this victory of course we have to prove until the end there is a lot of me i am already silent about the fact that our cities are occupied, a large part of our territory is very heavy battles are taking place again in donetsk region, but this is already a victory, this is the first, my first victory was achieved very quickly, yes, and of

course the next steps will be difficult for us, i told you that now his character hasn't changed, everything is more difficult to do, but because we won in such a difficult situation, believe us, it's all in the mouth, it's just all in the mouth well, that 's what tatiana ink, the deputy of the previous the convocation of the parliament, which is currently fighting at the front and is the head of the unit that hits ukrainian troops with missiles, which means russian armored vehicles, now we will hear oleksandr markushin, the mayor of irpen, oleksandr, we welcome you , we are talking about local self-government, you hear us as i have already read it during the day irpen was visited by pablo hanna kisada, chargé d' affaires of spain in ukraine, anders fogh rasmussen, the former secretary general of nato and a delegation from austria, this is the day before, you know, before the start of a full-scale during the war, irpin also received foreign guests, we

shared the experience of the development of our city, because irpin was included in the ranking of forbes magazine as one of the best cities for doing business, today we also receive foreign guests, but now we are asking for help for help for our residents we want everyone to leave the city returned because of the war, but many have nowhere to return because their homes were destroyed by the occupiers, we have good and sincere people who also definitely deserve help and deserve to be heard well, i will say that he is the president of indonesia joko's video was also this week in irpen, what are the specific concrete consequences of such visits by foreign guests of the city of irpin, mr. oleksandr, please well, first of all, i would divide it into two, two, two in the air, first of all, we defended irpin from the very beginning, when irpin won the victory, world leaders came to congratulate us and we showed what was happening in irpin

, we told what was happening in irpin and tuned them to support ukraine as much as possible , as our president volodymyr worked very powerfully zelenskyi and his team when we received the status of a candidate, but before that, a lot of work was done, we showed that it was russian . propaganda very powerfully tells us that we ourselves are shelling our own houses, that is nothing, you are the private sector or high-rise buildings or in the civilian area they don't shoot objects. and when we, as a world leader, show them in real life, they will definitely not be convinced. before the war, we had a very cool, very cool thing about a european city. and we will show how the russians destroyed it and now the number one task is for my

people to restore the city to our citizens . the funds are spent on victory and that is understandable and it should be and we involve everyone we can, we ask everyone we can, the first task is to restore critical infrastructure objects, these are school kindergartens, and the second is to make roofs high-rise buildings, because we have approximately 140 high-rise buildings damaged, 40 of them cannot be restored, they must be repaired and new ones built, and 100 buildings are subject to restoration, and if we make all the roofs in six months, you can imagine how many people will return. if we do not make these roofs in six months and if we go into the winter, then we will have to do several floors, then people will have to make repairs, they

will be more destroyed, and these messengers, we appeal to everyone. well, for example , sister cities are already helping us, that is, the city kaskadch where we went to sign allocated €500,000 for the completion of the reconstruction of the kindergarten eh, businessmen with kaskai also agreed to rebuild the roofs of one multi-storey building and in such and such a way we go to business the austrian ecosoft company is still in the irp, but it is completely destroyed. they are also currently restoring it. they took another social object for restoration, and i am sure that if we all rally together and undertake restoration, we will be very we will be able to do it quickly, mr. oleksandr. and what is the situation at the moment, how many and how many applications for the restoration of damaged property

are there in your city and how many can be satisfied, for example, morozu's house, now i don't know if we can give the video or not editors tell me look at this video. this is my house in which i live. universitetskaya street . three apartments were burned down. and now the residents of the floor are changing apartments from their own. here is the atb store. you know this house from your own pocket. they collect money, but together it is necessary. well, almost uah 2 million is an incredible amount, and it all comes not from some state fund, not from the local budget. people collect it, unfortunately, and it is only an overlap. i am not talking about how many windows need to be replaced. what is the situation with this, i.e. people have to rely on their own resources? is there still any help until today? today , the state has already shouldered the burden, and we use the

state's funds to change the windows, change the doors, and make current repairs to the roof where there is, like in your house. who m-m and your house is damaged due to their capital impact and there is a need to partially make capital repairs. we are now waiting for the line to open, capital construction, capital repairs , and when the line opens, when there will be this financing, then you, we will be able to substitute, well , the state will be able to together with the city council of irpin to shoulder the burden of restoration to date , the allocated funds to date are financed only for replacement of windows, door replacement and ongoing repair of the roof we are very much waiting for the line to be opened, er, already capital construction into capital repair, because today i understand that this is one of the

most important, but it does not depend a little on us, because , unfortunately, you and i will not be able to finance anything from the city budget, because eh eh, all the big, powerful taxpayers, eh, the russians destroyed their enterprises, and now we also have a problem with financing, eh, and we can count on two things: state support and eh, donor support to support our european partners where do we submit projects so that they help us finance mr. oleksandr, what is the number? you didn't answer. this is some kind of statistic. the number of requests for damaged property in the city, according to yours in particular. of course, there are approximately 5,000 damaged objects, up to 5,000. it's different from the damage, and now you say that the financing of the financial plan, not the objects, has already started. i mean an apartment. well, it's one house . 50 people can apply. that's the number of applications, okay

. well, it doesn't seem like a lot to you. i'm there. for myself i opened it and looked at how many foreign guests there were in irpen during these three months. there are only european presidents, probably 10 people. and the president of moldova and the mfa of latvia , lithuania, and estonia, but you probably don't have the impression that our destroyed cities are turning into such disneylands. when the delegation was brought, she looked, took pictures , expressed her condolences, left, and with the money, there is still a problem with financial aid for reconstruction friends, well, we have to understand that from the very beginning i said that we are the first, they are creating an imagination of what is happening here, because in the media, at the beginning of the war,

russia told everyone that there is nothing like that here, that you are private or high-rise buildings or kindergartens. hmm, the russians don't shoot. and when we show it to them, of course, the perception is changing and the main task is to show this truth, what is next, the state leadership will decide with them and how to move, but we have gone a little bit forward , or in addition to that we will wait for funds from the state upon restoration, we went to our european partners to the city of brothers, we near irpin, signed a joint agreement on cooperation with the association of mayors of france, and we have 50 objects - including high-rise buildings, we send out the same as those cities that hmm have the opportunity to talk