crimes in ukraine we can't take people out into the streets now because that means throwing them in prison and so actually influence but what should we do more now and we're trying as much as possible to work with security forces and nomenklatura ukrainians will also see the protests and the movement of the belarusian mothers , e. we communicate every day we work every day what why are belarusians offended because these belarusians who support this country are the most active people , people who in the 20th and 21st years gave up everything to fight against the occupation of lukashenko , we get now they gave up everything to help ukraine a

lot who went to fight for ukraine and many, many of them think that ukraine does not notice their merits and i would interpret it that way, but i think that the majority of belarusians. terrible repression they they they frighten many thank you mr. rychagam kiyachorka belarusian positional adviser on international issues of svitlana tikhanovskaya thank you for a short break, we will definitely make our conversation they return in camouflage with shoulder pads modest silent but in each of them a story

worth a thousand books is screaming seriously wounded in intelligence dmytro two days got to his friends, drank water from the swamp, lost consciousness time and time again, but got up and walked on, shattered by shrapnel and bullets in the battle, sashko bled for 11 hours, but waited evacuation, because he had the cossack courage and the indomitable will of heroes should not meet everyday life, our love and attention, our gratitude and respect heal their souls, remind them of what they gave their lives for, so join the all-ukrainian flash mob of thanks to the defenders, in fact, give a hand, say kind words, arrange a standing ovation, honor the hero, we my mother and i now live in warsaw, it is a very beautiful city, but kyiv is more beautiful for me. one day,

russia attacked my country, but we were lucky and my mother and i went to poland. i like poland, but i i want to go home, i have water, i have a lot of friends in the kindergarten, i really want to go home and soon i will be back i will be back here i will be back i will be back i will be back i will be back i will be back i will be back ukraine i will be back when we defeat the evil christians then we will return to our apartment all the poles are visiting, everything will be fine ukraine blitzkrieg russians in the north were the first we

encountered it was a reconnaissance failed thanks to such fearless soldiers we took up the defense on the road as a border guard vyacheslav call sign legate his unit took part in the heroic defense and liberation of the sumy region and gave the muscovites a lot of trouble. the orcs who were sitting on these beavers and bmws destroyed them column after column of merchants well done, glory to the heroes glory to ukraine we continue the program saturday political club khrystyna yatskiv vitaly portnikov and the main events of this week russian missile terrorism continues odesa mykolaiv kremenchuk and this is not an exhaustive list e.e. russian invaders from the black sea hit three x22x22 missiles more precisely on a residential high-rise building and a base

recreation in the village of serhiivka, 21 people died, among them a 30-year-old child was injured. on july 1, mykolaiv was subjected to massive rocket fire from the russian occupiers. at least 12 rockets were fired at the city . the analysis of the rubble of the amstor shopping center in kremenchuk has been completed, the number of dead and missing as a result of the rocket terrorist attack is 22 people this is reported by the city hall well, what is needed in fact, establish who these people are, whose remains were found there, because the situation is extremely tragic in the shopping center, eh, these missiles are generally h22, they are modernized models, and they are called x-32 , british intelligence also says this, and if we talk about the kha-32, a ukrainian cities were attacked by them,

if i am not mistaken, it is kremenchuk that they are still more or less controlled there as much as possible x- 2020 and the 70s, well, it is an absolutely crazy machination and it is falling on our populated areas, uh, someone thinks that it is probably russian federation has exhausted its potential as a more or less accurate weapon. well, does anyone think that this is a new tactic of intimidating the local population with precisely such unguided methods with completely unguided weapons? i think what is happening is what we have been talking about since february, what everyone has been asking. and what will happen when russia will exhaust its stockpile of high-precision weapons and will have to leave a certain number of these missiles in reserve. it cannot completely exhaust everything because it needs to keep something. so what will happen if it turns out that it cannot collect them because

components are needed for these western-style missiles , and it seems to me that even then he said on the air, well, if there is, russia will shoot those missiles that will be at its disposal, there are many soviet missiles, and by the way, why are there so many, not even because the soviet union was preparing for some kind of war with the help of ordinary weapons, and because the military industrial complex was one of the economic centers not only in russia, but primarily in ukraine, ukraine was one of the outposts of russia of the soviet military-industrial complex with the most famous main enterprises were located here. well, of course, in russia too, but here there were quite a lot of people working for the nuclear power plant . by the way, the crisis of the ukrainian economy is connected with the fact that there was no real economy then in the 90s, or was it the military - the industrial complex, the fact that we managed to rebuild in these three decades, to get out of all this is already a definite achievement, because the vast majority

of our compatriots now worked at these enterprises, which we do not care about at all. russia needs them under putin, they began to restore them. and by the way, the importance of putin for the russian people is that he again provided work for all these people who had no place for their children at their familiar military-industrial giants and a small enterprise as such. but this is another topic they started shelling ukrainian cities because they need to show that no matter where their troops reach, their missiles can't reach them. this is an absolutely normal tactic of any terrorist organization. that's how hamas works, that's exactly what izbala did and in the middle east it's normal life. look, we were there at some point in 1900, you know there 70 then in the fourth year we could clearly say that the state of israel after these two great he he and uh seven days already and the six-day doomsday war,

that is, one day they secured themselves a clear right, not existence, but the confidence that foreign troops will never cross its borders, this means that there are enemies, they simply calmed down, no, they cannot. they know that they will be defeated if they go with the help of manpower and equipment, but you cannot fire . even now, with the help of these rockets in hamas, er, are being assembled from some so er, parts in special laboratories on the territory of the gas sector, this is where the laboratory is, by the way. well and that israelis have been going to bomb shelters since then, they live in such a world, they have a much more powerful army than the ukrainian one until recently, and this army can not do anything with rocket fire, especially when they come from a territory where there is a huge the number of civilians, russia also perfectly understands. i will tell you more. i believe that these missile

attacks will continue even after the end of what we call the war, so russian troops can leave our territory because they are defeated here, because they are worried that they are not capable of occupying our territory they are not capable of resisting western weapons, so they left , what does this mean that putin will call zelensky and say they are coming and we will sign peace no he will say let's consider the issues of the future missile huts and so on in the territory of ukraine and we can do that. i think that in the atmosphere of these rockets in this missile terrorism, christina, we can live in the next decade, this is such a reality that we need to prepare for it. well, in fact, the experience of israel is very often compared to the situation in ukraine, the situation there but in my opinion, a really good life can be even in such conditions, and if you approach with your head, well, let's say this, protecting yourself from danger, firstly, it's border defense, secondly

, it's anti-aircraft defense, thirdly, it's anti-missile defense, it should become a priority for the development of the state, missile programs are a much higher priority than any other than more what social programs because it does not matter whether people are paid a subsidy or not when their home, in which they may not be able to pay utility bills, a missile hits it these people who need subsidies are simply physically no longer with er children well, there simply aren’t, it’s just such a big cemetery, and to prevent this from happening, to be able to have a population to which you pay subsidies, you need to there was anti-aircraft defense and it's not horror, don't joke , it's a serious problem and it's a problem for our future, do you remember the first days of the large-scale invasion and the cries of the ukrainians absolutely, in fact, i understand them, nato close the sky over ukraine because these missiles, well, it was something extraordinary and something that cannot

be just imagine. only now we are there according to the results. nato is here. well, for example. we are opening there. and what does the united states promise us? oops , the ppp complexes have appeared. and before that, from whom we did not expect berlin? well, yes. announced something like that. well, this is the implementation of the closure program over ukraine. you are the closure of the sky in the version in which it was said then. i really think that this means that it means that nato itself should deploy the air defense system of ukraine, and nato clearly says that it will protect its members, the ukrainian people at one time made other geopolitical choices there in the 90s, and we are now paying for this lack of understanding by our compatriots of the level of the threat, and again, i am not going to reproach everyone because they lived with russians in one country in the soviet union, for 90% of people who lived in ukraine until 1991, their homeland was not ukraine, the soviet union to demand from people that they understood so quickly what

happened and that a new one will happen, it is very difficult to carry it here, as it were, in latvia it was not. well, unfortunately, we are paying such a high price for this, but it was obvious that the north atlantic union would not be drawn into this war with russia on its own initiative . is such a war possible on the part of russia? what does this mean tens of millions of people means what does time mean ukraine can basically disappear from the face of the earth as a result of such a conflict means but that's another story it just might not come to that why do we always have to speak in er apocalyptic such er colors i i think that if the russian leadership wanted to come to a confrontation with nato, then it has already come. and you see, they are threatening, but when it comes to some open actions, what would be necessary to do now, if nato enters finland already it was necessary for the tanks in the army to go towards the ring of helsinki, well, this is logical in view of our experience,

at least for us. but it is not for us that membership in nato and they will not go, they will not dare to have a direct conflict with too because they will be defeated in this conflict they know it perfectly well, well, at least that's how it looks today, i'm not ready to calculate the level of madness, but today it looks like this, and that's why we need to be clearly aware of the threats to us and them until the moment we become members of the north atlantic union missile terrorism, regardless of how the war will go, how it will end, can become a part of our present. hmm, yes, it is, in fact, the company russia - it is a terrorist state - became more active after the use of these rockets in kremenchuk, this is not the first time that they used them in donbas they already did it a few months ago but really what you say illustrates very well and once again describes the concept that russia

understands only the language of force and in my opinion it worked very well on the case of the snake island the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, er, zaluzhny today, pravda reported that the russian invaders carried out an air strike with phosphorous bombs on the snake shot, which was previously abandoned due to the fact that the ukrainians did not actually leave them a second way out. we have as the pawnbroker says, this is a ukrainian howitzer bohdan, and it is wonderful when you study the moment of creation, the moment of testing this weapon and its prospects. and what happened, sorry? only a few pieces and we can see the effectiveness there is not bad well, but that is a completely different conversation what happened to the snake in your opinion and the ukrainian side do we now need to fight for the fortifications on the snake, but at the moment i am not a military expert

what happened in the shifts - this is absolutely logical because when the russians captured and they captured for something to capture the mainland nearby and use this disposition for the landing on odesa, i think that at that moment they were already sure that they would already be in mykolaiv and advance further along how long has this not happened on the mainland, on the mainland they are not there to hold the island itself, the position itself is impossible and now what the russians are doing is that they are doing everything so that the ukrainians do not gain a foothold on the snake because the ukrainians, unlike them, control the mainland but on the other hand i am not a naval force that can interfere with this strengthening. that is, it is such a positional struggle now, and i think that it is important that we are there, it is important that they are not there, because one way or another these are large parts of the black sea that they cannot control. this part in one way or another, the black sea would be used for landings and used to block trade routes. by the way, i am not among those

optimists who believe that now it will be possible to unblock the ports because we understand perfectly well that the russians have a submarine and there are many opportunities to interfere with the normal passage of judges and putin is interested in this hunger crisis and he will do everything to make it happen, i don't think that you can easily object to this here with the help of a simple deoccupation of this small islands, but the very fact that the russians managed to use a part of the territory they captured is already a symbolically symbolic image story of putin, it didn’t work out that way. and in view of this, it now seemed to us that someone is joking about the snake, and they say that this is a test case, and it will already be full version and well, i don’t know how to joke, you can joke a lot, i generally like the humor that this war has become in our country, sometimes it is very cynical, but less so witty, how are trends changing in the understanding of ukrainians

, whether this war should end and in the understanding of what maximum compromises, we can go and return everything, including crimea, the majority of ukrainians are not ready for compromises 89% consider the only acceptable scenario for the end of the war return of all territories, including crimea, we are donbas 97 trust the armed forces of ukraine 85% trust the leadership of our state i think that you can calmly get to know each other in a little more detail. well, it seems to me that this is a success, true, definitely, definitely. this, in principle, says that ukrainians are consolidated as a society wartime, it is again obvious that when the war ends it will be a completely different society. i also talk about this all the time and say that we must clearly understand that ukrainian society after the war will not resemble ukrainian society during the war because these are usually romantic eras in any plan, and that's why when people don't know

where they live until tomorrow, they usually group together and it definitely won't resemble the society of the pre-war period. world literature that describes what post-war society looks like in the countries that won and in the countries that were defeated during the war, but the situation is very similar because a huge number of people who do not see the meaning in a peaceful life because they are used to a military existence, a huge number of people who have already adapted to the wartime economy, which is disappearing before their eyes, and do not know how to bring themselves out in the peacetime economy, a huge number of people who, under inflated expectations, are witches from the peace, which is all the more so for let's say a country that suffers blows to the infrastructure is always not easy, well, that is, this is the society that we will get. even now it is difficult to describe, but it will be a problematic society

of problems, this must be clearly understood, and another important point is the level of expectation, so ukrainians want the territorial integrity of the country to be completely restored at the time of 2014, in principle i believe that this is logical from the point of view of international law because if we agree that one country can solve such problems, i mean appropriating the territory of another country without the consent of that country. this will be a huge blow to all international law for the future. that's why. by the way, i always explain why crimean kosovo and vladimir putin very often appeal to the example of kosovo to the example of the decision of the international court of justice of the united nations regarding kosovo was also part of the territory of serbia, and the world gave it the opportunity to become an independent state, a huge number of countries recognized it, and

here we are already talking about the fact that there was a genocide of albanians, how they were evicted, i remember it very well because i i was there at that time, i was in the refugee camps. i will not tell this for a long time, but it was really a tragedy. i understand the meaning of the decision of the international court of justice because i visited kosovo many times. year and met with the leader of the kosovar albanians, bragin horn, who later became the first president, it was announced that he and i were walking around the city, and he told me that the main idea of ​​the kosovar albanians in their national development is to unite with albania so that they was a communist state, it was the 1990s, and i told him, well, i'm sorry, i'm only asking how to unite with the albanians, who don't even have car traffic, there's no normal free press, there's nothing here , you couldn't get in, it was completely isolated since 1955. north korea a you are here,

listen, they had a newspaper publishing house there already at that time, which was not in kyiv, this territory in yugoslavia was developed, the marshals and they did not say, well , yes, hello, hire albania to kosovo, we will become their trigger for change. this was a national idea both of the ban people but you see that the international community did not allow this, you understand, they said that this is a compromise kosovar albanians want to be together serbs want to have kosovar to win from there for the albanians we cannot allow this but we cannot allow that the territory serbia becomes the territory of albania because this is the collapse of the entire post-war system and they said that it would be better to have two albanian states than one but with someone else's territory. and this is what i think putin cannot understand. if he left crimea, let's say self-governing republic of abkhazia, he would leave the way to find understanding in

the future, in the future, they say that in the future, important georgia will find a common language under the instructions of the southern sech, at least nothing prevents it from the point of view of law, and crimea as part of russia in the russian constitution we have this existential conflict, and i asked you what you think, that putin needs crimea and a russian. they don't need crimea either, but we don't just need crimea, we need a territorial donbas integrity and they don't need crimea from donbass, they need territorial integrity, that is, the inclusion of all of ukraine in the composition of russia, how can these two states separate if one of them wants to exist in its territorial value and the other wants to absorb it , also leave everything, as this pyotr tolstoy sokurs says. yes , my the faculty of journalism of the moscow university surrenders to the polish border. well, i am not waiting for him at the polish border. i would like him to wait for our servicemen at the border on the

crimean bridge, so that he would come there from the capital institution of capitulation, well, such a different reading in this future, i will tell you honestly, i do not see a solution to this problem and there are no problems in this, no political solution to this problem does not exist in nature, this is the conflict that is called existential international law. well, how there, at the expense of options, the regime of the russian federation will change, the russians will understand that they were wrong and give us this sandwich, that the regime in the russian federation will change, then we will be able to talk about a different configuration of the situation. again, there will be a need for a story not about crimea, but about donbas, about what the russians say, so we recognize that ukraine has the right to exist from that moment . according to international law, we have to sit down with the ukrainians at the

negotiating table and decide what to do with their territories that we have appropriated, we may have different views, let's say if i am a representative of ukraine there and you, if you are a representative of such a russia but we are talking, but if you, as a representative of russia, think that i am not there, that i am simply the wrong russian, then what kind of conversation do we have with you, because you do not understand at all why it is necessary to discuss the issue of crimea when you just live in to one region of the russian federation, well, with the representatives of the bryansk region. what do they tell us about the crimea issue , that is, everything should start with this, the russians should treat us at least as dauphins, they did not consider films in the 39th year to be people, they thought that this there must be people who will live later in the cyrillic-finnish ssr comrade stalin has already created this 16th republic in which he was going to include this finland, but then after the finns fought for

the second time by the way, even after they, and i'm sorry, they don't like to mention it, stood there they ensured the blockade of letinograd during the second world war, and when stalin, together with chrechyv, were interested in their withdrawal from the front, then the film received these guarantees of sovereignty, you understand, but they had to do more than that a huge number of people to lay down their lives, even a huge number of soviet soldiers and residents to bring to the altar of their future true independence and no one in the soviet union thought that they would be part of the korean-finnish ssr and this karl of the finnish ssr that they even destroyed , liquidated, so here we have to go through this by the way, when we say that finlandization but he went very far as in the army once when they kept soviet soldiers and two, we very often

talk about the winter war but forget what it was the war continued, when the finale, they occupied the whole of soviet karelia and stood near leningrad together with the german. yes, but there were finnish soldiers standing there and you know it, then you understand that this is not your brother, but the enemy , but you should not talk to the enemy about how you you will coexist with him. but if it is not an enemy, just someone who cannot understand that he is a part of you, you do not take him seriously. you can destroy him. well, what do you think that putin did not destroy the kursk region, because if he thought it necessary to somehow punish for directed behavior i assure you that the soviet russian aviation is calm bombyla bekursky damn, well, she is groznyy bombyla and now these foot soldiers of putin are dancing here with us well, it’s okay, you said the finns passed like an

army and we also need to pass a certain way like an army, so the armed forces of ukraine honestly they say they are making some progress because, well, if the russians themselves admit that they did not expect such a level of skill from the armed forces of ukraine, then there is definitely something to be proud of. because we ukrainians do not forget about this , and here in connection with the crimea there, by the way, literally yesterday the crimean bridge somehow got smoky. i want to. i'm just a person from the crimea. and it's important for me to emphasize this and for you to understand what it means. the crimean bridge was opened in 2018 in the 19th. information about the fact that some military exercises were held there during these years. moreover, the smoke screen is one of the methods of conducting defensive combat in order to disorient the enemy. so, yesterday, it was smoke machines. in your opinion, this is a

recognition that the armed forces of ukraine are really a worthy adversary, what kind of signal is this for the crimeans? i think that it is putin's signal as such. you are talking about, we are talking about crimea. and you see that we are ready to defend both crimea and the crimean bridge, and we are already preparing for this, unlike you. we they were waiting for our attack there and did not believe that it would happen. and we believe because we are generally a country that usually believes that it will be attacked by everyone, that everything will be as it looks, with the most terrible expectations and the fact that they spend such an expectation of course, these are signals to residents crimea, that they will defend this place, defend the peninsula, and of course this is a signal to us that we had no doubt that they are ready for any options for the development of events. although i do not think that we are in such a state now, when we can discuss the issue of the crimean bridge, yes, of course this is still early, another

topic that, in my opinion, has received a little too little attention, another outing to the world, if you will, of president putin. the event was attended by the president of azerbaijan, ilham aliyev, the president of iran, ibrahim raisiv, the president of kazakhstan, kasi-majo marta kemelevich tokayev, you see, there is nothing difficult to pronounce, if it's a name, but putin can't do something . president of turkmenistan sirdar berdiho berdi muhammedov and i have difficulties with this surname. well, in short, they talked about the economy and security in the caspian sea, the need for new