greetings, dear viewers, during the next television hour on the air of the espresso tv channel, we will analyze the most important events. the military managed to help the russians show the so-called good will.

the nato summit demonstrates a fundamentally new approach to the russian threat, the members of the euro-atlantic alliance are ready to take measures as soon as possible in order to defend the same lithuania, latvia or estonia from the buchansky or irpinsky syndrome about this about other roman bezsmertnyi and andriy pionkovskyi watch espresso tv channel and now on the air espresso roman immortal ukrainian politician diplomat former extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador to the republic of belarus we will talk about the most relevant and possibly painful question glory to ukraine, mr. roman, glory to the heroes so we understand that the age-old, without exaggeration, the so-called madrid itself took place, where nato completely changed its concept, the concept of not freeing one of its members who will be

attacked by russia, for example. accordingly, the euro-atlantic machine will go in the right direction, but unfortunately we understand that the west has awakened to a large extent because of our blood, our suffering and our war really this is a serious event, it is a turning point and it is a turning point in the fate of nato and the salt. i think of the european community. the fact is that two positions are the refrain of the summit. it is obvious that the key threat to europe and russia and the key threat to the world is china, and we must pay attention to that that representatives of asian countries were also present at the summit, which immediately caused an emotional reaction to beijing. second place in the fact that what determines the significance

of this summit is its own decision on ukraine, and this is a long-term program, and it is with a clear by reference, ukraine will receive as much and as much time as it will take to achieve victory over russia, and it is very important to hear as much and as much time as it will take to achieve victory over russia, and because from my point of view, in these two e- programs in these two approaches and the answer to the question of ukraine's future membership in nato is hidden, and i was a little surprised, i'll put it mildly.

very, from my point of view, unpleasant slogans and slogans, mr. roman, from the last signals, it was a phrase of zhovkva, the deputy head of the presidential office, who, so to speak, quite skeptically assessed our prospects and, in general, should we integrate into nato due to inaction on the part of this structure, i it's not that i was surprised, i was shocked by this statement because if it was done by an analyst, and if it was done by an opposition politician or an outsider, it could be ignored, but it's not correct to make such statements from the point of view of the status of a civil servant, therefore, from my point of view, it was necessary to do this, because such things are unacceptable, especially at the stage when the preparations for the summit were underway, i will now say about things that are clearly visible in those decisions and in

those actions that took place these days, because it is impossible to detach from what was torn apart at the nato summit, and the delicate, as the americans said, conversation between president zelenskyi and the big seven, even more so, i will say even more delicate conversation between president zelenskyi and the summit nato must also be as businesslike as possible, as consistent as possible and as correct as possible in defining needs and joint plans and prospects. i will emphasize the word constructive here, even because the decisions made by nato clearly indicate how they see the prospects, they see the prospects together with ukraine at today's stage, when you notice what i

will say now, nato is as independently ready to confront russia as ukraine is, and this must be well understood, and therefore the ability to confront russia is ensured the union of ukraine, nato, and the united states of america, this must be clearly understood, because if we now analyze the sum of the statements made by the president of the united states of america regarding the placement of new naval squadrons in europe, new aviation divisions, and new units of the ground forces, it becomes clear who will be responsible for filling this the numbers are 300,000, hence the logic suggests that only the interaction at this stage, the constructive interaction of ukraine

, nato and the united states of america at the current stage will allow to restrain aggressiveness at the next stage will allow to strike a serious blow and at the third stage to achieve victory pay attention i want everyone to understand this as no in ukraine yes no in nato yes no in the usa no one formed the content of the victory over russia this means that in fact all absolutely doomed to the fact that you will together and together correctly come up with a strategy and tactics for achieving victory mr. roman, i agree with you, you said the key phrase the meaning of the victory over russia because we understand depending on how to decipher and how to embroider this formula , accordingly, this will be the framework negotiating

position and we understand very well with you that the negotiations once began, the so-called belovezhsky negotiations, now they are moving smoothly as if moving to istanbul and it should not only be about the grain of its transportation, where the blocking in fact, we understand what is going on, an extremely powerful negotiation diplomatic track, few people talk about it, but you and i understand that it is about ri foul politics. explain, please. what on your opinion is happening in istanbul. the fact is that when we talk about this so-called istanbul track as the inheritance of many things, from the point of view of the practice of western politics, and there they always gave a chance to those who left the coils to introduce themselves constructively. therefore, first, if i evaluated the istanbul trok track is a chance for the kremlin to

behave constructively even in such a dangerous situation, this is the first argument, the second must be understood that the president of turkey, erdogan, like any other leader of this type, dreams of taking over the current situation, any even minimal economic movements, especially on the energy market, will mean a minus for him, because his bustle in this process, which plays the role of a steam locomotive, is the second component, which is more demonstrative than real from my point of view, about this bustle in the corner of which is the topic of the export of ukrainian grain it is already completely unsuccessful, but here it is necessary

to pay attention to the fact that this behavior is based not only on the own political interests of president erdoğan, but also on the fact that there is a group in the world of countries that you remember once there was a group called the group of countries that did not join, which included india and yugoslavia, well, cuba, there is a dash, it needs a number of countries, so in a strange way, but the messages announced by the president of indonesia, who visited this week ukraine, the prime minister of india and the president of turkey, they agree, but there is nothing special here, because this means that, first of all, in this case, which we are talking about, erdoğan

is using the political situation in order to achieve some gains for himself. attention even last year, even a month ago , the prime minister of india said that india has solved a number of crisis issues, such as food, medical care, technological support, and so on. at the eu summit, at the press conference, he began each of his speeches with the phrase india is a very poor country and therefore it cannot afford the first second the third pay attention to the message sent by the president of indonesia they are exactly like that indonesia is one of the poorest countries in the world it cannot afford to act in this way and what is parallel tis and brics took place almost at the same time, where there were individual persons here and there, well, such as the

prime minister of india in particular, shows that in the group of these countries that cannot cut the umbilical cord with russia but dream of being democratic states and working with a civilized the world today is searching for its place, its position, if not at our expense, mr. novels, we understand that there is also a process of war fatigue in our country, and any message that is thrown out very often deliberately by putin about the fact that here he is preparing to offer something and so you know it like a shooting gallery when people are shown a conditional chance for salvation, which is unknown. how it ends. usually it ends badly, but it is an old practice. i accept this argument, but i emphasize that the leadership positions now in the politics

of attitudes and evaluations are occupied by the kremlin washington and the reference point of the entire civilized world goes to washington, the decisions made by nato make these leadership positions irreversible because the decision made by the european union, the big seven , the next nato, they are even any option after three years of elections in the united states of america , this vector of development and status is maintained, the position of russia and the necessary help of ukraine in all components, and so on, it is necessary to pay attention to this in relation to things that are connected and events that are taking place in central asia, e-e asian - the pacific region, i would refer to the indo-pacific region and i would suggest treating them as a situation of establishment only as a situation of establishment, it is

obvious that the definition has only just begun there, so who are you with the civilized world with the european the community of seven with nato united states of america are you with russia or peace and this dilemma that will be resolved these days why because after nato a-a president biden is meeting with the leaders of china where a number of issues will be resolved after nato president biden is meeting with the leadership saudi arabia, where a number of issues will be determined, and in fact, if you analyze these two tracks , economic and military-political, then the actual democratic world will be arranged in the new economic model, which does not provide for the existence of such a player

on the international economic arena, how is russia, mr. roman, i agree with you, on the other hand, we have a rabid bull terrier that stuck in the leg, was tearing the meat, and we understand that the issue must be finalized as soon as possible because there is too much blood, so to speak, and there is no clear perspective in sight when it can be stopped this aggression so this is the question that hurts everyone, we understand that ukraine must stand up ukraine is heroically holding on, but we also understand that we need some kind of help as soon as possible in order to to solve all this, putin's resources, unfortunately, did not run out, everyone expected that in a couple of months, this huge imperial cabinet would fall and shatter into pieces, but no, it is holding on, missile attacks, in particular, on civilian objects, we understand this. what does this fit into the doctrine for intimidation yes, but all the

same, you very well described the situation that putin can be forced, but when, approximately, how would it happen. and the conversation about the time and place of victory . front line and i was very surprised by the almost ultimatum tone of the president of ukraine to the leaders of the g7 regarding the solution to the situation this year. to fulfill several tasks, first, by working constructively with the west and the united states of america, to provide the ukrainian army with all the necessary equipment, weapons, ammunition, technologies,

tactics, and personnel training; second, as much as possible to act in such a way as to preserve the personnel of the armed forces and the population regarding the question of setting up when and how the time will come, starting from the offensive, starting from specific concrete tactics, this is a matter for the general staff, and i emphasize that this is a matter for the general staff, which to date is on an unprecedented scale interaction with the systems of nato and the united states of america and it must be given the opportunity to work out in such a way that this interaction allows to strike the enemy as much as possible so that the first the statement of the task that was made three months ago, which was voiced by the minister of defense of the

united states of america, i will quote, russia must be struck in such a way that in the next century russia could not fight against any of its closest neighbors or any country, from here it is an obvious statement that for some reason has been forgotten and as for i will emphasize this once again, with regard to the time frame of the tactics of the strategy in this process - this is a matter that must be determined especially on the battlefield by the general staff, because its uniqueness lies in the fact that actually this tactic today ensures not only victory over the enemy, but also membership in nato, and therefore from ukraine, the political leadership of ukraine requires maximum constructiveness, business acumen, consistency and understanding that all participants in this process

acquire mastery, experience, strength in order to defeat the enemy, mr. roman i agree with a kind word and the attorney general of the united states, you can even expose a scumbag. zaderkach, and he is gone accordingly, and as far as i understand, many people from his entourage have left. so we did not know that we have such people's deputies or something. and russia worked in ukraine and by incorporating its agents russia worked in europe by incorporating its agents and to think that all russian agents end in the same last name is to deceive yourself

, you need to understand this clearly, but you need to understand us , the following is not necessary to declare enemies as criminals you all need to be absolutely right, you need to have counterintelligence prosecutors to do their work and they need to be given the opportunity to carry out such work, moreover, it is necessary to explain to everyone that the topic of checking the loyalty of anyone in wartime is a common thing that needs to be done be calm, absolutely calm, because there is a war and just trust without knowing who and that it is impossible to trust, you need to check the loyalty of a person and his skill and his ability to perform this or that function, i am not talking about what should to clearly understand that the war breaks many people in this

situation, it is necessary to understand that the topic of counter-intelligence activities, the topic of the activities of the prosecutor of the security service, and so on, it takes on a special sound, but god forbid to transfer the kgb ways of work into this system. this is another argument that shows that we it is necessary to learn to work as force counter-intelligence agencies in the conditions of warfare and to understand that we are building a democratic state, we are fighting as a democratic state in fact, the victories and stability of the ukrainian army and ukrainian society, including those achieved thanks to democracy, young democracies, not mature democracies, but democracies, and this is coach roman, i agree with democracy, it is very important, but democracy does not prevent people from being strong, or

people who are either harmful or incompetent are dismissed , and we understand that so far we have not heard a lot of explanations, a lot of strange stories, and we would just like to see personnel decisions, it is not about hype within the boundaries of the entire state . and what about this or that official who failed to set tasks, he resigned if not during the season. and there is nothing to deny this, i subscribe to every word and once again i want to say that the activities of counter-intelligence security agencies, such as counter-intelligence, the security service, the prosecutor's office, must be at the proper level, and their task is to identify those who work against ukraine bring to court those who are incapable - this is the business of the managers, the business of those who manage the military, who manages the rearguards, who

appoints and is authorized to dismiss people. the model of the state in the administrative plan was changing, there was a constant transformation of the reasons and reasons for doing this, which are more than enough, but i want to emphasize once again the issue of professionalism, the issue of patriotism, the issue of dedication to one's work, these are things that should be number one, including those who carry out control over compliance with the law of the constitution. in january or february, you and i screamed , warning about the danger of an invasion from the north , in particular, through the territory of the republic of belarus. well, i i remember this moment very well, it happened. now we are entering the next phase of a similar plan. it is

dangerous. i would very much like to see the mistakes repeated on february 24. this applies to the north, this applies to kharkov - it applies to the south . in your opinion, a real large-scale invasion is serious. we are not talking about kyiv only, because russia needs the rivne nuclear power plant. we are not talking about making fun of it . there is no doubt that belarus will enter the war at the level of the armed forces and putin will drive the belarusians against the ukrainians, the situation is now such that these last weeks the devilishness of the kremlin fuehrer, the reason for which is that

ukraine has dealt a devastating blow in recent weeks thanks to the weapons it received in the rear structures and in the kremlin, they understood very well that they are not capable of conducting serious effective battles after ukraine receives even more such equipment, so they will use the tactics of expansion front and for the kremlin, it is important that this more than a thousand kilometers of the border with belarus is on fire, and the situation only concerns the question of when it will happen. the sooner and the better, it is necessary to do the first thing

together with the current belarusian opposition, which has spread across europe and the world, it is necessary to help, promote, use any verb here, the transitional democratic government the transitional government of belarus, who will lead it , tikhanovskaya, sanni kovzanov, poznyak, let them decide for themselves, but this government must be formed, the units of the armed forces of ukraine formed from belarusians must be subordinated to this government, this is kostusya kalinovsky's regiment, there are several other units, moreover, they must acquire the status of the armed forces of the republic to belarus, this government must start working to show the future of democratic belarus, because belarus is a citizen of belarus, a belarusian soldier, a belarusian officer, he must see

the perspective of what awaits him. in this way, in order to minimize the motivation and fear of the current soldier and officer of the belarusian army to go to war, because in this situation it will be clear who will be the future who is behind whom the future of the republic of belarus . th year which gives an opportunity then gave an opportunity to the french now will give an opportunity to a belarusian who is categorically against the war you cannot equate russian and belarusian society belarusians belarusians do not accept this war and even more so the war against ukraine, today they are put in a situation where they are being driven with a whip so that this whip does not work, and the necessary steps, which i am talking about in

july -august, so that we should take them as soon as possible fortifications well, just remembering the end of february this year, you know. well, i would really hate for it to become clear later, as arestovych said, that someone did not finish something, and the first and second and third and fourth and this is the matter of the general staff and what we are going to do now, we are doing absolutely right we say that the threat is such why because unlike many people who once considered lukashenka to be almost the president of ukraine, you and i saw very well that this is a person who serves the kremlin and will do anything in order to serve , including to give his territory, he will take the last shirt made of trees from belarus, while serving in front of the kremlin, he will throw a belarusian at a ukrainian, and therefore now it is

necessary, starting from the political things that i said, ending with operational-tactical operational intelligence to do everything in order to minimize the ability of the belarusian belarusian citizen, officer , soldier, and you to go to war against the ukrainian, such efforts must be made yesterday, such efforts must be made all these years , what worries me most about the situation that has developed since the beginning of february 24 is that in the subversive and intelligence russian operated on the territory of kyiv, chernihiv, sumy, rivne, volyn regions, 2/3 of the staff were belarusians who were recruited through private russian armies. this is what worries me today day, russian private armies are also recruiting belarusians to fight in the donbass, in the

zaporizhzhia region, in the donetsk luhansk region . this is what is dangerous, that is, when such a situation arises when a person is belarusian, he does not see, he does not understand his political prospects, he does not understand what will happen to belarus tomorrow, if there lukashenko will be a self-proclaimed dictator and will continue to lead the belarusians into a tailspin, or they have no options for action, so from my point of view this activity and political and social activity and support especially the closest neighbors in this regard, it will not only allow to solve the situation of keeping the northern border of ukraine safe, but also has a chance to tear belarus from the kremlin, believe me, the separation of belarus from the kremlin is an equal thing because yamna is the front line because belarus is a bridgehead