and if the resolution all started with jeans, then in the 90s, it really started with a wallet, a lot of people pulled the diasporas, everything that could be pulled, in fact, it is my belief that we need to invest money in the diaspora, in fact, because these are the people who advocate for ukraine and us it is necessary not to just wait from them, you know, that they will give the premises, or grants, or give some money. we need to support these scientific institutions, which in the 20th century collected all the archives of the soldiers of the army, the energy of the diaspora of the hetmans the people of melnik, the people of bandera, all who have come to panas, it is a pity that today we see that the representatives of this diaspora, who carried these academics in the institution, will not be able to continue this fairway , therefore ukraine today should never help our diaspora, first of all, by preserving the treasures of the nation that are there across the oceans or the european contingents are from the other side. we need to shave off not

just ties that we know is an absolutely shameful phenomenon for me when i live in ukraine and i have to ask someone for something like that from those people who are destitute themselves left in straight clothes e to europe and created ourselves and therefore today we need the support of ukraine e of our citizens all over the world here we are really talking about a state with we are really talking about a number of other states from which we can take an example and believe that if indeed we today will don't ask the diaspora to help, then they will understand what it is. well, i'll stop here. let's remember the 90s. mykola plavyuk gave the symbol of power to the president of the ukrainian people's republic for a year after the proclamation of ukraine. why? because they did not believe these communists who here proclaimed statehood, and in the 90s, how many people did not believe that they had, or some believed, they were stripped on their shoulders, or others did not believe and simply did not understand where the

state that they had was aimed at, at, in the capital, and that is what we are talking about today we need to support the diaspora, it advocates for us and it does the best advocacy for us, on the other hand, we also have to understand that ukrainians all over the world are really different, different generations, different generations, absolutely different representatives of the diaspora, and i, for now , using our marathon, simply calls ukrainians, people will write to me through social networks , and through my youtube, they write about the fact that, for example, there is a very huge number of ukrainian migration today, for example, munich there are something like 100,000, as i am informed that ukrainians attend an event once a week. for a few hours, 300-400 people show up to support ukraine and that's also a question. well, ca n't you support ukraine where they provide you with this blue safe sky and that's it. you obviously know this because if

i have people in the 20s and 40s, they carried their own culture, for example, sorry, today they left very there are many people who carry within themselves ukrainian culture and also soviet culture, and you understand. i can't even think that the conversations that come from there are simply pro-russian conversations that are conducted there by representatives of today's migration from the war, that's why, friends, this is a huge issue, this issue is painful and in the end, we need to understand that if we allow this migration today, it is a sin and a sin for us, we are actually not just a nation within the borders of 1991, we are a huge nation that is on different contingents and our flag today as never can with dad not just the flag of ukraine but the flag blue-yellow color should indicate in the 21st century in the fight against totalitarian regimes we have to make it a fashionable task judging by the way

events are developing what support do we have in the world this is how it is we believe and know that it will happen thank you to you for this uh-uh conversation a-uh, to sum it up briefly , uh-uh, for ukrainians, uh-uh, we can promote them to come back here, this is a bunch of opportunities that mr. mykhailo mentioned uh-uh, and there are also other downsides of emigration, people there become ours as ambassadors, we should not lose contact with them, but on the contrary, we should maintain economic, social, and cultural ties with them, for example, the state of israel. thank you for this conversation. as well as the doctor of social economy mr. mykhailo vinnytskyi talked about emigration from the point of view of history thank you and see you soon well, now we are talking about what a guest who was recently in kyiv said that it

makes no sense to help ukraine with weapons drop by drop munitions are needed already and now that russia is rejected, the british investor richard branson says that a few days ago, the british billionaire visited ukraine. he visited gostomel, met with president zelensky, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs and a group of ukrainian entrepreneurs, richard branson says that he definitely wants to take part in the restoration of ukraine and will convince others to do it , let's listen to his interview. well, after midnight , watch the tsn edition, nice to meet you. congratulations, nice to meet you. so you clapped not just for the applause entertainment was for you to congratulate you , i'm glad to see you and i'm glad to see you branson, you've been supporting ukraine for many years, you're here for the third time what do you feel now, visitors to

ukraine, under the current circumstances, it's an honor for me to be here in ukraine, it's my, it's a great honor to meet so many incredibly brave people. i think that ukraine has, i mean the world, if i had a hat , you know, i would have to take it off in front of ukrainians because it is incredible what ukraine has achieved despite terrible circumstances, but there is still a lot to work on and i think that all of us in the whole civilized world should do everything we can to help you even though the ukrainian people are fighting incredibly you know obviously

the occupation of the territory is only a fraction of russian power we should make the western countries do even more than they are doing now so you know obviously everything they did before time was a little late, for example trying to say that one day ukraine can join the european union that you can ukraine can join nato one day it's a little it's a little late so as an entrepreneur i look at a problem and try to see how it can be solved i spent 55 years building businesses trying to solve problems i think the message i got from my trip to ukraine is to go back to western countries and say that there is no point to supply weapons to the country. during the next three years, ukraine needs the same amount of weapons that russia has in ukraine for

three months, and this must be done, you know, urgently. and can they give us that much weapons. i think that there are countries that can. we need to talk to these countries, and you know, we will talk to them and try to convince them that it is important that this happens quickly. we should also review the sanctions against russia. check if there is a better way. what has happened so far is that the sanctions have led to to the doubling of oil prices and so russia actually has little to lose financially if not gain as a result of this current policy or is there a better policy we have some proposals that we are

discussing that you know may increase the pressure on russia compared to the current situation, so it is certain that after coming to ukraine and meeting with the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and meeting with president zelensky this evening, i think we will be able to leave with a much clearer picture of what needs to be done, and then if we help, we will help as much as we can and try to force others help people as much as they can. i believe that you are the ukrainian people, you deserve it, you are fighting, you are waging war for the rest of the civilized world, unlike the rest of the civilized world, your people are dying and dying for it and it's the least the civilized world can do is make sure you have the proper means to do a proper job i wish the civilized world would understand because not everyone seems to

understand i think the civilized world is more united than ever because of the war in ukraine but i think that you are right i mean being in poland and i just came from poland talking to business leaders and non-governmental organizations i saw that they understand it completely they are at the border they feel they even feel pain and obviously, they are afraid of pain. if you go further, the further you get away from the war, the less i suspect people will feel pain. we need to act fast we need to help ukraine the only way to end this war is if

ukraine starts pushing the russians back and then one day a peace deal can be reached but until that happens if putin feels he has the upper hand i i don't see the possibility that the war will be ended, so we must be sure that you, the ukrainian people , have the strength and means to push back putin's troops, yes, for this we need weapons, yes, you know , some countries are good, but they can be even better, obviously, you know, i think what america and britain did did it well and five and you know every country that can help can help more i mean we have more but so far

they are not doing this i think that there are such european countries but there are i don't think that in fact it is appropriate you know point a finger at them publicly, there are some european countries and they know who they are and what they could do to help more or who promised something that they seem to have not fulfilled yet, but there are also countries in the far east that have weapons that are friends and allies and they could would do more or they could even start helping, so there is a rather long list of countries that can help ukraine, but which currently do not necessarily help properly, you were an active participant in the action against the war in vietnam, then you spoke against the invasion of iraq you once said that you were always against unjust wars are there really just wars can anyone argue that the second

world war was justified in the fight of say britain against nazi germany i think that this war was justified i believe that every war that has taken place in my life was unjustified it is as you say the war in vietnam which i opposed as a young man i even opened a magazine for a company against this war the war in iraq the second war in iraq was definitely a very big mistake i am afraid that russia refers to this war in its propaganda war was unfair, but there is a difference and it is that the invasion of ukraine is an attempt to deprive ukraine of its sovereignty , those other wars at least did not aim to deprive

other states and nations of their sovereignty, you know the war in ukraine completely contradicts everything that was advocated in the organization of the united nations when it was created in the forties of the 20th century, obviously russia signed the budapest memorandum of 1991, persuading ukraine to give up nuclear weapons in exchange for state sovereignty, and what are we seeing now? people, you know, people in the west have forgotten about that agreement that was concluded, and it seems obvious that russia simply broke this agreement and now it is not russia that behaves cruelly, but putin behaved cruelly in 2014 as well. and now you think that

we only have putin in everything. i think this is putin's war and i know many russian businessmen who are shocked by this war. no, i'm not talking about the oligarchs. i think that the oligarchs are shocked by this war for various reasons. but of course, russian business owners who have built a business or entrepreneurs in russia, they are categorically against this war, they are categorically against putin, some were brave enough, like oleg tinkov, who built his bank from scratch called tinko. in the bank, who expressed his opinion and of course, the bank was actually taken away from him, others with whom i can speak and they are simply categorically against the war, so you know. i think that people from russia who are quite well-read and who have traveled the world and who

know what is happening in the world completely blame putin for this and i think that putin is leading this war he knows that if he doesn't stay in power for the rest of his life he will have to spend the rest of his life in prison or worse i mean he tries to poison his enemies or his opponents so you know he will i'm afraid to take part in war to distract his country, to try to stay in power, i'm afraid he 's really so cynical, the ones you talked about are n't doing anything to influence the situation, i mean of course if you try to do something alone, nothing will work, but if you unite why are they not doing anything? i talked to them about preparing a joint letter, forming a group, to be honest, i don't think they are

brave enough to do it . there will be a coup against putin and all i can say is that i just hope that i have hope i hope that it will happen soon when so much hatred is directed against russia by the intelligence of civilized people there is a premonition that on at some stage there could be a coup, but there may not be a coup in the meantime, we just have to help ukraine to fight... anna generay on january 27 of this year, even before the start of a full-scale war, you appealed to business owners from all over the world to unite and defend the sovereignty

of ukraine. did you have the feeling that war was inevitable and bound to happen as worried that it would happen for the reasons i mentioned i thought that putin could wage war only to distract the attention of his people from his own dictatorship people tend to rally around leader in wartime ago, i was worried, i spoke then with president zelensky, you know him. i think people were not sure that putin was planning a full-scale invasion of ukraine.

putin surprised the whole world with his attack on kyiv. they were convinced that he was going to secure the east, but you know, at least ukraine gave him scratched and pushed his troops back, you know, a new demarcation line is currently being drawn up and we just have to help ukraine to ensure that this line does not constantly advance into the territory of ukraine during the war in ukraine, business suffers. what do you think business should do in order to survive the war and help our country in the future? look, i think there is a very entrepreneurial group of people in ukraine, obviously . many of these people have to fight in the

war itself. i think the first priority is to therefore, in order to dislodge the russians by getting the necessary weapons, the second priority is to make sure that the sanctions against russia are in effect at the moment, they are not necessarily in effect, they increase the price of oil and therefore, you know, putin has even more money for war therefore, it may be necessary to rethink, we made some proposals that we are currently discussing to determine whether it is possible to achieve certain changes regarding those people who are not fighting in the war and can run their own business. i think that there are many businesses abroad that could attract

ukrainian business and work with ukrainians, and i talked about this with representatives and leaders of polish business, they want to help ukrainian business more, and i think you know that we should help you more and everyone should help more , the bitim business initiative is still working don't we have an organization called z elders which was started by nelson mandela it started looking at conflict resolution and is trying to help with conflict resolution tonight i will give president volodymyr zelensky a presentation to the head of the organization mary robinson who says that at some stage they will be happy to help try figure out in the end every conflict ends in a

negotiated settlement and they could they could help after the annexation of crimea your business initiative fight tim tried to organize a meeting with putin to somehow help the situation how everything ended at that moment it happened i think that the time for negotiations is when both sides feel that they can lose the war i am not sure that putin has already reached such a position but i think it is important that there is an organization that is talking to both sides so that as soon as this situation happens, measures can be taken to

end the conflict. i was in russia about 3-4 years ago, why am i asking, you know, many analysts believe that the imperial habits of the russian societies take their smoking out of nostalgia for the ussr do you see the similarities between then and today's russia that when people feel nostalgia for the past they are often very wrong i remember the soviet union and remember i waited 36 hours to call england you know it was terrible now russia is a little better but to have nostalgia for the

soviet union is a big mistake for anyone it was a pretty terrible regime the russians caused enormous material damage to ukraine today it is hundreds of billions of dollars where to get this money we need a marshall plan for ukraine when the war is over or even while the war is still going on the world population will have to help ukraine you know one of the ideas we are exploring is some minor regime change in the oil and gas embargo on russia could potentially allow

some types of supplies but introduce a high level ukrainian taxes on any goods bought in russia that will go to the reconstruction of ukraine in any case this was an idea that a former russian dissident actually talked to me about - it's simple the question is what we are investigating, but in any case, global support for the reconstruction of ukraine will be needed, just as there was a marshall plan for europe at the end of the war, but i just wonder how to make them pay and whether it is really possible to do it against their will, because in order to do something like a plan marshal they should admit that they lost the war and that they brought a lot of grief to ukraine i doubt that putin will admit it he won't admit it until he is defeated but i think that while

this war is still going on the money can be withdrawn from russia and returned to ukraine this is what we are going to investigate and we will see if we succeed in this or are you going to invest in ukraine after our victory you could be a great example for others i am a business investor i did not interfere in ukraine because i want to invest in ukraine i want to be involved in ukraine absolutely independent of anyone anything related to business i just want to be involved in ukraine to try to help help fight an unjust war and try to help to end this war to encourage other people to come and invest in ukraine if you are trying to

do something good and at the same time you are thinking about investing there may be a little conflict i just don't want it to be conflicts i would like to be very clear we are here to help the ukrainian people to win the war to stand on our feet to preserve our independence and be a part of europe, please welcome to europe ukraine, which as a peaceful country has been formed for hundreds of years. i know that many other people younger than me will invest in ukraine in the coming years, i would rather focus on helping ukraine fight this war and not worry about the business aspect at the moment . land what were your first thoughts i remember this

beautiful land and i thought that during my lifetime in most areas the world became better and better considering the number of people who no longer live below the poverty line warriors it seemed wars remained in in the past, as you know, the number of people suffering from lack of food decreased, all other problems seemed to have improved, and then the war of russia against ukraine begins and we get all the suffering that is happening in ukraine itself, it also affects the situation in africa, where i just faced malnutrition, you know i just met a woman who had to hide with a disabled child in a bomb shelter when the russians were ransacking her house. looking from space i could

n't imagine that the world would turn back so we just have to make sure that we we will win this war and the world will win this war and the ukrainians will win this war then we will be able to watch the next time we go into space we will be able to look back at this world and think that hope the war in ukraine is the last big war that is happening on this beautiful of the earth i also hope for that thank you for this conversation thank you for being with us today in such a difficult moment for our country thank you all the best we will convince you we will win that you are not news together we ourselves invincible cities of ukraine pavlograd an industrial center with a cossack past, a secret waterway of the

zaporizhzhya cossacks ran through the vovcha river here, after the october coup , the unr army led by peter bolbochan drove the bolsheviks out of the city, albeit for only two years, the pavlograd anti-communist uprising became one of the largest in the 1930s during the occupation the invaders set up a concentration camp for prisoners of war and a ghetto in the city where they destroyed more than 2,000 jews today pavlograd is under fire but continues to help all those in need because the people of pavlograd remember well that it is easier to drive the occupiers in a group. pavlograd is unconquered because of the war in ukraine, all the stadiums fell silent, you broke up the russians