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the next fantasies of the russian authorities, the adviser to the head of the department, mykhailo podolyak, reminded that ukraine's conditions for negotiations are the withdrawal of russian troops from ukraine abducted citizens and the mechanism of reparations well, also chief piskova may not worry or the time will come and we will record our terms on paper i added or i will remind you putin's press secretary said that ukraine should agree to russia's terms and sit down at the negotiating table and that the west is allegedly to blame for the continuation of the war, and not putin's own bloody orders . good night. good evening. so what did piskov say, and he said that kyiv must understand the conditions of the russian federation, agree to them and sit down at the negotiating table and fix the document. so there they declare that kyiv

we will have to accept putin's conditions. and where does such confidence come from? well, what is it based on, that in fact this message is intended for an internal political russian audience? first of all, the main key point is that russia is supposedly at war with the west, and ukraine is just some tools with which the west carries out its hostile activities against the russian federation, that is, by and large , it is a reproduction of the same leitmotif. what kind of russian charmanka is playing? i don’t know for so many years, that is, they fundamentally ignore that the fact that they attacked the sovereign ukrainian state and the fact that they are waging a war against the ukrainian people. here they begin to appeal to the fact that allegedly, once again, the machinations of the west are responsible for the fact that this war is taking place, and from

their rhetoric it seems that there are almost no ukrainians they do not want peace at any price and only some insidious west does not allow us to do this , in fact, well, we know very well that the situation is something different, i would say fundamentally different well, in fact, it is possible that many in the west are in this to the falachized lady and i would like ukraine to accept any peace proposals of the russian federation and that the west could return to the old habit of doing business from the south, yes, that is, nothing personal, just business, nevertheless, we see that neither the ukrainian people nor the latest sociological polls clearly confirm that he is not ready to capitulate, moreover, it is not that he is ready to capitulate, he is not even ready for some concessions , and by concessions we mean both potential territorial concessions and political ones any concessions, that is, it is impossible today. well, the position of the ukrainian authorities has also been articulated repeatedly, and since the very

beginning of the conflict. there the government will not fall, and there the russians almost occupy kyiv, the whole position is clearly articulated by zelenskyi, the restoration of the territorial integrity of state sovereignty within internationally recognized borders, further these are guarantees of security, which is also constantly talked about by the ukrainian authorities, and the third is the issue of post-war reconstruction under the president of ukraine. they have even created a special commission. i think you have already discussed this several times on your broadcasts. again, who will compensate for this damage and in what way? well, the third point is er, well, this is again, well, about the nature of relations in the future, that is, a peace agreement, of course, all wars end sooner or later

with some kind of peace agreement. the federation was simply impossible. i think that today the only entity that will succeed in real negotiations with the russian federation is the armed forces of ukraine, that is, in fact, these peace agreements are being written on the battlefields, which in the future politicians will simply record, and what they are dreaming up in the sand, i will produce them. he doesn't produce it, he tells us this. he says it's his time, this, this , hawthorn, lovers of hawthorn, yes, that is, they will publish their hawthorn, they listen to piskov, and then it is packed in packages here in ukraine. well that's why i don't see any reason to even discuss it here, because it's definitely not important for us. valentin, will there be this so-called negotiating table at which the two presidents will sit? well, look, if ukraine, you already have russian troops from our territory, well, they they certainly won't present this incident as their defeat,

we remember when they left kyiv region and chernihiv region and ran away. they said that a part of the so-called special operation in quotes completed and they are going on to continue the task. they fled from snake island and said that it was a gesture of goodwill, so they can be so that putin will say that we have completed all the tasks, destroyed 80% of ukraine's arsenal there, replaced the nato arsenal, and that's the end of it, well, we're afraid that no, first of all, i don't even see the willingness of the russian federation to move in this way, that is, despite the fact that they are constantly there yes, they are talking about the fact that supposedly ukraine does not want to talk with them there, in fact, they do not want to talk, this is just the harsh truth of life until, well, the russian armed forces maintain combat capability on the territory of ukraine and until the russian the military-political leadership maintains the belief

that they can achieve some political goals in ukraine through military means. well, this war will continue. well, if fortune returns to them at home, well, then there will be no motives for stopping and releasing their the territory of liberating one's homeland from these ass. hmm , it is clear that that is, as long as the parties let's negotiate there, and the party sat there as if saying as long as they keep faith that they can improve their negotiating positions by military means. until then, the war will continue. well, for us, these precipitous positions are clear. that is, this is our land, this is our sovereignty, this is our territory, so we are fighting to preserve our identity, preserve our state, state sovereignty and territorial integrity, well, the russians will fight until they are

i am not inclined to think that the current political regime in the russian federation in principle, any agreements are possible. for some reason, i tend to think that this war will end only with a change of political regime in the russian federation , that is, i repeat, not the president, that is, not the first person, but the political regime, that is, they have to go through the process of democratization, demilitarization , deracialization, if you want, and then yes, really if they give up these territorial claims of this khimperian some kind of phantom pain well then yes then it will be possible to move on to the next some points to date nothing indicates that they are ready to do it because even when they cover their heels well, how do you then tell about the fact that these are gestures of some kind of pain in fact, i called it that, yes, anyway, they then launch, well , the next rocket strikes, bomb strikes, they

shell ukrainian peaceful cities, they die it the free population is being destroyed, well, the civilian infrastructure, if they like gestures of goodwill so much , then maybe they would stop shelling civilian objects and killing the civilian population, this would really be victims of goodwill, and here, by the way, one nuance i also know this, er, sometimes it becomes confusing when ukrainians are indignant that the russians strike at civilian objects. it seems that they can strike at a target with an object, that is, it must be said that the very fact of their invasion of the territory of ukraine is already there is a crime. well, the fact that they basically strike any kind of blows is already a crime, but where do they strike and how do they strike, well, that's just an additional component of crimes. actually , the fact that they basically ended up on our territory is enough, that's why i wanted would that we know they didn't do such a thing if what if it's not there, it's not a civilian object, no, it's supposed to be possible to do it no , you can't just when it's a civilian object, then it's

in general well, beyond the limits of any humanity, that's why there are no gestures of kindness you can't take their will when they can hit. they drink, and when they receive requests from them, they crawl like a beaten dog. well, then they tell that it's not very good, that's what i wanted. federations recently and our task is to beat and not i told them to count their regimental leaders once. valentin, isn’t this rocket terrorism that we saw this week? a lot of tragedies happened. isn’t this a way to force ukraine to negotiate, and isn’t there any benefit at all in the alleged fights, because in the first month we still had these negotiations and then they stopped like that zelenskyi said even then, remember, after the first round, he said that we are ready to talk if the russian federation comes out with some proposals and not

with propagandist stamps, well, not much has changed since then, that is, the russians continue to talk about their magic about there for some er de- nazification, there for demilitarization, something they were still guessing for themselves, that is, what specific meaning is behind these proposals well, moreover, no language can go about the loss of territory well, well, this is clearly articulated by the ukrainian authorities, but the ukrainian authorities do not say this because it is some wish of zelensky well, because such is the desire of the ukrainian people and the ukrainian authorities no more no less, he fulfills the will of the ukrainian people, so what negotiations can there be, well, as goldmeyer said, we want to live, and why do the enemies want to be mortals, well, this is only a little, just for a compromise. they don't hide it, yes. that is, it's not that they would hide it, they openly take into account their policy, their

practice. we have also seen already in the occupied territories how they behave with the civilian population. genocide of people, by and large, therefore, in this aspect, yes, well, again, the ukrainian authorities and ukrainian diplomats have repeatedly said that the russian federation should be recognized as a state not just for sponsors of terrorism, we are a state for terrorists, and the world community is already moving in this direction, it is gradually maturing to that yes, the russian federation from the very beginning of this conflict is not what they started doing now. well, they did it from the very beginning . from the very beginning it was like that, that is, they achieve several goals. well, first of all, they really exterminate ukrainians who simply have to be exterminated in their imagination, and the second stage they really want in this way - this is a trio-teron to intimidate, break the will

, quite contrary, to force them to accept their conditions but very naive, that is, if we uh, even when there was the first shock when there, the first few weeks there, i don't know, were very difficult, even then we were not ready to accept their conditions, it's very strange that the truth is that we would now decide to accept their conditions when it is clearly visible that well, this military vehicle of theirs is made of shit and sticks, it skids a little . i think it will continue to skid and it will be seen in the future. it depends on many simple factors and circumstances, how the events will unfold here, you know, a lot can be purely random factors that can play their role. i hope that they will play their fatal role for this kremlin dwarf and his posipak. thank you for joining valentina glykh, political analyst of the public organization slovo and dilo was in direct contact with us. and we

are moving on. well, we are moving on to the topic of sanctions and how sanctions can affect russia or stop its military aggression, because this is exactly the goal that was set from the beginning. therefore, one hundred percent sanctions volodymyr zelenskyi stated the need for maximum restrictions on movement outside of russia, everyone who is part of the political and military entourage of the president of the russian federation, as well as sanctions on their assets in certain countries and their businesses, and this, in zelenskyi’s opinion, should be contained in the seventh package of sanctions of the european union. it should be even tougher and affect russian officials of banks and companies and the president. he previously noted that the six packages of eu sanctions have become a tangible tool of pressure on russia for the war, but unfortunately, the war is still going on, so an even more powerful document is needed now for our broadcast serhiy oleksandrenko joins, he is an adviser to the minister of finance of ukraine, an economist, a publicist, and

mr. serhiy, we congratulate you, i congratulate the apiaries, we know that you are not skeptical of those sanctions that are on are currently in place, so he will immediately ask you what you see as the most effective sanctions against the russian federation. what format of these sanctions could still bring results in stopping the russian military machine ? i believe that very serious sanctions have been applied to russia and they are working and they are working effectively . the second thing is that i have said many times and i can repeat again that there are no such sanctions that can destroy the economy of any country, whatever it is, and the rank will be that of north korea, russia will be the more so, so let's separate different things. is it possible to destroy the russian economy with sanctions? no, it is not possible. is it possible to stop the

war with sanctions ? to continue the war or to live in the head of one specific person and he, well, in general, he is not ready. on the russian population yes of course yes of course it affects very strongly this is clearly visible because, well , look at the breakdown of the population 's income in april, and it turned out that in almost all sectors of the russian economy, nominal wages fell nominally, that is, unreal. and you are just in april of this year, people they received less than in april of last year, everywhere, the government administration, because there is little wonder, it is surprising. made up 17% there. that's what you'll consider us to be only a drop in the standard of living of the russian population in the russian economy, it's so slow, slowly , again, it literally doesn't move, well, oil prices are high, video prices are

high enough , so there is no such upheaval, the demand for serio is high, but nevertheless, the economy is rolling down, oil is being obtained there are fewer deals, fewer railways carry less oil pipelines, what kind of wires are they carrying there? of cars this year, but 33 times more than my last year, that is, virtually to zero, and say that the sanctions do not work. well, of course, it will be wrong. and what is the point of sanctions? well, look at what you want to achieve. you understand the sanction. the instrument still affects the economy, and you know how the rust of the sub-targets the ship is such a huge ship that the bohdan ship floats on the waves of the sea and somewhere there it has rust and if you do not detect its fire, then gradually your titanic is

it rusts, it doesn’t sit firmly, it doesn’t settle, the organ starts to burn up, the sanction is such a thing, how would you say artificial rust that corrodes the ship of the russian economy, it’s already clear that modern technologies have stopped coming to russia, yes, in general , there will be no effect from this during the year. not at the level of gdp or at the level of investments, but in 5 years the absence of modern technologies, the russian economy will already obviously lag behind well, they actually slowed down the development of the russian economy, mr. serhiy, please tell me, please , will they find a way to circumvent these sanctions, because the border of the russian federation is very large and there are many countries that, apart from the sanctions , talk a lot about kazakhstan as a kind of hub for circumventing the sanctions against russia economic ones, do they have such ways out of this situation? china, the

same oil that india buys , and so on. by some source. well, the news, yes, and it is very well known that there is not one large chinese company that sells its goods on the european or american market in russia. everything they said is that no, we in russia will not go to the russian market. the earnings here are too small. очень большие, therefore, we do not want to risk it. and there is a large number of small- scale businessmen who ask for logistics chains through turkey, through the kazakh well, i would say that you know that, well, single problems, that is, well it is impossible to get spare parts for an airplane through kazakhstan. yes, because it immediately becomes clear that kazakhstan does not need so many spare parts, and even about spare parts, it is always controlled by the aircraft manufacturers, so some things are solved, but to say that the whole thing is through kazakhstan

, in fact, the president is so excited and very he clearly said that er, kazakhstan will not turn into a country that helps russia get out of the sunflower, that is to say that it will not be a single company of its own, or that russians in kazakhstan will not create a dozen there are there a hundred companies that will carry something until they are caught and brought there under sanctions? well, it is also not true because, as they say, as makar marx said, yes, for 300% profit, there is no such crime that capital is not ready to commit , so if there are such i don't know if it will be there through kazakhstan , it brings 300% of the fish, so i will do it, look at it now. they buy, but in moscow there is no warranty service for those telesports, respectively. well, there are other grenades, the same, yes, accordingly, if you need to repair something, you give it to the service, the service takes it to montenegro, it is repaired there, it is taken back. well, there are probably

hundreds of such smartphones there which are imported in such a way that only a million will be spoken. i think that the american authorities will immediately discover this channel. well, russia is constantly trying to find loopholes, and here, for example, putin signed the law that legalized smuggling, that is, now the russian government is allowed the right to determine the goods for smuggling, which russian companies will not be ordered in any way. they will not bear either criminal, administrative, or civil liability . drugs, weapons, even what is that, yes , accordingly, there is no mention of such goods, things about the fact that, well, according to the russian patent law, i have the right there, conditionally speaking, spare parts

to apple products or samsung products or products i don’t know. who else is there with us? that's right, so he says. let them import it. who wants it? yes, that is, it doesn't make iphones or macbooks there illegal goods or criminal goods, but simply because apple does not supply russia with any of its own products, then import them by whatever, that's why i can't say that it's good. yes, because it's an obvious violation of the agreement signed in russia with the apple company. but it's definitely not smuggling, so, so , so. okay, then, let's have three more minutes. it remains as you see it. the latest package of sanctions, the seventh, which is currently being discussed. why did it hang up a little and ah? well, how effective will it be

, what impact will it have on the russian federation, in particular, the ban on gas cargo? i don't know of any talks about the offices of the seventh package yet we only see that you are watching the fourth package, which was accepted in march, it started working after three months, the sixth package, which was accepted at the beginning of june, this is where the embargo on oil and petroleum products begins to work after six or eight months, from this i conclude that if there is a seventh package then most likely the varnish between the decision-making and the beginning of the action of the sanction will be even more not a comforting fork. the next packages are the eighth and ninth, why didn't they do that if the sanctions are not enough? well, you

already know in fact. palladium and platinum, but 43% of the world's palladium and 20% of the world's nickel are produced on reisky nickels. here is palladium, and it is a catalyst for modern cars, and it is also used for all electric cars in high quality, it is possible not to buy palladium from narivsk nickel, but after this, eh , accordingly. well, conditionally, they say there that euro-5-6 will need to be bounced. likewise , there is an auto transporter for euro 1:2. well, there are things for which eh, the western countries are not ready to go. they always said at the beginning that the sanctions would even be such that russia’s enemies would be more than the opposite of the damage to our economies , so they will come up with another package of sanctions. it’s very simple for me. in your opinion, is the default going to affect the financial system of the russian federation? this is the

technical default that happened the other day because , well, first of all, if we look into the distant future, i don’t know when putin ’s war is over. it won't be anymore, and in russia there will be some foreign investor in a change government, a foreign investor will start suing the russian ministry of finance. all our money will be returned, and i think that the russian ministry of finance will have very good ways to protect its positions because the money did not go through later due to the fact that the euro was not transferred. yes, that is , the ministry of finance transferred the money to eurocolor . there is a lot of default for the un officer, he can’t borrow money on the market for a long time, and when it comes out after a few years, the cost of borrowing becomes more expensive for him. well, russia can’t

borrow money anyway, it’s already under these sanctions there are, therefore, there will be some consequences from this default, i can’t. it seems to me that you know a symbolic gesture, this is just a symbolic gesture of the american administration. i want the credit history of the russian federation to be written in grave letters. thank you for joining the marathon of single news, i will remind the audience that serhiy oleksandrenko, advisor to the minister of finance of ukraine, economist, publicist, was with us on direct contact. thank you, friends. we thank you for being with us stay with the marathon, the only news in the future, vitaly brodylov, viktoria malosvitna, see you in the next broadcasts, the radio show continues. good night and peaceful sky. dear our military sailors, happy naval forces day of ukraine, the southern frontier of our country is reliably protected by military sailors, you are home and not all together through thorns. glory

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