once lukashenko said this, it's not a coincidence either , i think it's a possible element of his future claims to lithuania, because it's also an alliance commitment to threaten lithuania, which has been restricting the transportation of russian goods to the kaliningrad region for two weeks, which annoys russia a lot. i'll remind you that lukashenko asked for himself divisional scanners that are now already on the territory of belarus, moreover, they fired at the territory of ukraine, as soon as belarusian servicemen find themselves behind the controls of these operational-tactical missile systems, i will not give and a broken bastard for the fact that they do not receive an order to strike either ukraine or lithuania. no, it will not be nuclear weapons, i do not think that russia will risk raising the stakes so much, so this is, you know, the

format of a global war, but the fact that the belarusian troops in the event their ground invasion of ukraine will be reminded of the penalties , the actions in donbas will be reminded of those who were mobilized in the benches there and they are the first ranks of the attackers on the ukrainian positions. do not doubt that it will be exactly like that. and i would like, er, you know. a humanistic view of life, but purely politically, i do not guarantee the preservation of the lukashenka regime in the event that funerals begin to arrive in belarus, the territory of belarus is much smaller compared to russia, there is not only persecution of the opposition, a sufficiently tough

police regime, but there is also a network of such internal resistance and, god forbid, it will come 10 20 100 guards. it depends on the scale of the invasion and the intensity of the combatants. if they come and lukashenko thinks that he will be able to rule just as easily. well, i have other views on this situation. which probably restrains him a lot and, well, he has been restraining him for three months so as not to cross the border with ukraine, these are the funeral processions that will come to people and then these people can put pressure on him because i, well, something. i don't believe that putin in four months of war grigorievich never told him. well , the border is already being crossed. well, he had to say it and something. i guess it is these funerals that are holding him back. it is true that this question was raised, for example, i am

telling you as a person who commented on this for the belarusian independent media almost from the first day. russian-ukrainian war i can only repeat that there was never any conflict between ukrainians and belarusians, that the belarusian people's republic, when it appeared in the 18th year, the ukrainian people's republic tried to maintain the strength of even its small capabilities, was it the belarusian army, which is formed according to the conscription principle has no experience of actual combat operations and i do not know how and where they watched. i hope that the belarusian military very carefully. i hope not. i am practically convinced that they watched the video very carefully. how russian tanks fired near kyiv and they understand that this is not their expectation and motivation, which was not lukashenko personally, lukashenko is sitting in

the pocket of russian propaganda, you know , he is fooling around when he talks about withdrawal on the eve of independence day, let's remind our viewers that this is the day of liberation of belarus from the nazis, and until 1996, independence day was july 27. when was the declaration of independence proclaimed? and when he talks about removing some parts of internal organs from belarusians truck drivers who died as a result of a russian attack on the territory of ukraine well, you know this is not even cynicism it's just a person betraying the memory of the actual cooperation, the owner of fellow citizens, note that in belarus there is an opposition and a position, but its position well, i would say remains reactive and non-proactive

unfortunately, the team svetlana tikhanovska i failed to be convincing. those citizens of belarus, as far as i know, are more than a thousand of them, who fight in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, defend our independence, and i think they will become an example. of the new belarusian army, because after the end of the russian-ukrainian war, the clock counting lukashenka's time in office or in his seat in the presidential palace, which has not been recognized since the 20th year in most european countries, will start counting down the last days and months, this is practically understandable that is, it is for the world. i am not ruling out that putin will do it, not the world community, that is, putin will overthrow lukashenka

and sacrifice lukashenka in order to say well, look, there may be democracy in belarus, but it is far from a fact that a politician will replace lukashenka , who already in july of this year will celebrate the 28th anniversary of his stay in power in various statuses. well , that is, he is the recognized president, the unrecognized president, the self-proclaimed president, but he is really standing next to the tornado of the state, this is a fact, but around him in the diplomatic in the world except for the russian direction well, far china and the far east are scorched earth mr. evgeni in grodno, belarus last week a forum of the regions of belarus and russia took place forum, putin said that the west is pushing the two countries to speed up, and here i even put the unification process in quotation marks, that is, no longer integration, but

unification, and there is a huge difference between these two terms. what do you think? well, this could not be an excuse, because he wrote i didn't read what was written, this is some kind of change of some kind of disc . well, just to interpret, lukashenko says that we have a union of two states on the one hand, and putin says that we will absorb you, and this is not the case when even if you have swallowed everything there are two ways out: russia wants to swallow belarus by sewing it to itself, to create, you know, a siamese twin that is not a siamese aa imperial twin, that is, this is why i always repeat and will repeat that the belarusians are not our neighbors and we will try to have good neighborly relations with them and not fraternally, if they

want to play in partnership with the russians, then there is a question about lukashenko's words. why is he alone? well, he says that the party is on russia's side, and why does he think that ukraine is wrong? he throws nazis at us there and a lot of other things, well, let's leave it to his conscience, as well as those theses about the breakthroughs of the opposition on almost fully loaded trucks and suvs into the territory of belarus, if ukraine were really engaged the collapse of lukashenka's regime, i think his positions were now much weaker, but unfortunately, this is a fact. belarusian oppositionists often like to use this fact. in 2021 , ukraine actually sponsored

his regime by buying bitumen, electricity, gasoline from lukashenka for 3 billion dollars, ukraine is not the only and not the largest trade partner of belarus, this must also be remembered, but the fact of 3 billion must also be remembered, and for our belarusians - this is a gate, it is necessary to understand that when they talk about the internal position and internal occupation of belarus maybe somewhere in poland or in the baltic countries - it comes in. and in ukraine it doesn't come in, because in our country 20% of the country is already occupied by russia, and what is happening there in the occupation and what is called the internal occupation of belarus, as they say in odesa, are two big differences, sir evgeny, the last question for you is putin, well, he wanted to do it somehow, even though he has it. obviously, it will not succeed and it is already a failure. and somehow, i do not know how to detach a part of ukraine, and maybe even

annex it all to russia. that, unfortunately, after starting this aggression, he, like no one else, very much ukrainized ukraine. i think that the process of ukrainization of ukraine continues and putin significantly accelerated it. russia, for me, this figure correlates with the number of people who on december 1, 1991 in all regions of ukraine voted for its independence, in all of them, without exception, it was more than 50%. and exactly the same. i think now people know that ukraine will win. ukraine has already taken place as a subject of international relations, it has proven its ability to be an independent state, and this is a plus now. the question is:

how quickly will we restore the territorial integrity of our state? this is not simple, this process is extremely complex . we will have a lot on this work and, unfortunately, there will be a lot of loss, but this process is necessary and i want as many of our fellow citizens as possible to realize this, they will realize that we will do this, mr. yevgeny, and i really want us to do it as well, at least as soon as possible, how would we manage to do it faster thank you you for insulting participation in the sweet program during the war, i will remind our viewers it was evgeny magda, director of the institute of world politics well, we are moving on and my friend and guest is already ready to join me on skype - this is kira rudyk, people's deputy of ukraine mrs. kiru i congratulate you i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes thank you for joining well, let's start with mr. yevhen, i touched on this topic, first about belarus, about

russia, we will finish, but still more about russia, fighter johnson, prime minister of great britain last week in an interview one of the publications called putin a quote as an example of toxic masculinity ms. what kind of toxin can be used to neutralize our victory? are we still going to have to prepare for the fact that, well, at least during the immediate history of ukraine, we will still have to continue to live along with a toxic neighbor, make sure that our children don't have to fight the same war that we are fighting now, because we hope that russia will change from the fact that it will have a dictator leader and someone else. well, it doesn't happen, do you remember the question who asked all opposition politicians in russia whether they would return crimea to ukraine . if they come to power, and of course none of them answered in the affirmative because it was

political suicide on their part, that is why they hope that putin will be replaced by someone else with whom er, who will not have imperial ambitions, who will not try to systematically conquer us and rebuild the russian empire, you know many ukrainian politicians, activists, and in general, our citizens lived for 8 years with the hope that putin will die and we will live, then this is how it turned out you know, it is good to hope for it, it is good to pray for it, but it is very bad to build strategies for ukraine, assuming that someone can die, we understand that putin is not eternal, but we also understand that russia is not told by itself and even those sanctions which the west is currently using, they will be aimed at suppressing russia, but unfortunately they will not destroy russia, only we can destroy russia, and this is our task not only to win wars, but to make

sure that it never rises again, because the worst that can happen is this if our children have to fight in the same line that we are now fighting so now we have to have a fight once and for all to the very end no matter what it costs us no matter what it costs us because we are now uh if now we stop again how are we stopped 8 years ago, then putin, russia will not stop, they will continue, you know, according to the principle, as they call it themselves, to the principle of salami , try, er, try to destroy us, try now to neutralize, step by step, piece by piece, get what they want. therefore, no, with neutralization of toxic muscularity will not change russia and our struggle will last longer than we hoped but it must be absolutely right to the end she will be right to the end in this fight we will definitely

win thank you for such kind words ms. kirod, on june 20, the president of switzerland and the national fund said that the conference on fundraising for the reconstruction of ukraine, which, by the way, officially starts today at 2:30 p.m. kyiv time in lugano, switzerland, will not be an event to raise funds for the reconstruction of ukraine, it will be a discussion of the artist the state reform of ukraine eh well, but about the financing of such a team , that is, for us, this conference will have eh some significance, or are we just blowing up now, but today the conference at which we will speak will be blown up the president of ukraine, at which a lot of distinguished guests will speak, it is important for us, absolutely important. we have several messengers that we must convey to the entire world community. it does not depend on whether we will be given money or not, but i

will tell you in secret whether i should give money to him that everyone understands very well what we ourselves are getting into and that we are now facing very difficult challenges in the fall, the first message that we convey to everyone is that the development of ukraine should not begin after victory and now we cannot wait the end of the war for several reasons, the first reason is that our citizens need to be warm in winter, we need roads to drive on, and we need to be able to enjoy all the benefits of civilization , now part of ukrainians are deprived of such opportunities due to the constant shelling of russian troops, the second is so that we can continue to carry out to fulfill our mission as the breadwinner of europe and the whole world, we need to find other alternative ways to export grain and sell not only all food we understand that the unblocking of ports is a question

with a big question mark, besides that, we are currently looking for other opportunities, this is the use of rail connections, this is the use of motor vehicles and other freight transportation , so for this, we also need to rebuild the infrastructure so that in we had other alternative ways. by the way, regardless of how quickly our ports are blocked, we need to have these alternative ways and will always need to have them. the energy crisis will be difficult, not only for me, but i have ukraine, it is not for me, and europe, and the question of how to ensure security , it is energy-related, it is facing everyone quite acutely, therefore, the reconstruction of infrastructure facilities is for ukraine it is necessary to do it now so that we do not have to do it in three roads by accelerated ways. as they say in october

, the second message is the second message that we give to the world. ukraine was a country that was the flagship of digitization, there was acceleration and digitization processes of human-state interaction, now this issue has become even more critical because we have challenges that can be solved precisely only thanks to digitalization. well, for example, people who lost all their documents and who ran away and saved their lives and the lives of their children and in general with nothing who now need to restore all this, register with various organizations, receive assistance from the state, this can only be done thanks to the fact that we centralize all state services and i am very happy that we have this and this that we continue to do it like this right now during the war. we should not pause, but on the contrary , speed up these processes. the children who were left without

parents are all about this update, e.e. the pension certificate that can be obtained in action. funds are also needed. the third message that we have to give to our partners is the question of the restoration of ukraine. why will we restore it? we will restore it anyway. russia can bomb it all. we say that the question of restoration stands together only with the issue of ensuring the safety of our sky and our infrastructure, and we say that you have already invested a huge amount of money in ukraine. if you want to preserve eh and eh so that these investments are not waste, we need to protect our sky you can call it whatever you want, you can call it a closed sky, you can call it providing ukraine with air defense. in fact, the main issue is that we were able to ensure the security of at least some regions in our country and say absolutely

it is safe to move here, you can already build here, you can restore all infrastructure facilities, this is our main task and the lugano meeting, this summit. let's talk with money let's now protect your investment protect your help by giving us additional weapons mrs. kiru well i understand everything you say it all right we have to convince people who will invest to ukraine, who will help us. we must look at all the points that you have listed, it is all logical, but please tell me, the forum has not started yet, there are still an hour and a half before the forum , so we can now say that it will be possible to convince everyone that you listed the people who will invest money in ukraine. i am sure they are very high and you know now the government, the opposition, any

ukrainian politician, a diplomat, just a ukrainian who is abroad or communicates with international partners on skype, we are all how is that they say we are blowing the same pipe, er, we all speak the same er, in one word, we all work together so that ukraine gets as much as possible, and i don't believe that such joint work is i don't believe that such emotional er, such emotional speeches can be left without answers from our partners because everyone understands very well that we are protecting the whole of europe now. i have been to a large number of different conferences and met with politicians from all over the world, starting with mr. macron and ending with the mayor of vilnius. each of them understands that ukraine protects the whole of europe and they understand that we need to help, we need to support our beliefs now, what are we

dealing with, explain how we see the reconstruction , confirm and undertake that the money that will be given to us will be spent correctly, will be spent as we promised and will be spent transparently, and also listen comments from other countries, which other leaders, who were already engaged in the reconstruction of countries after the war, the reconstruction of countries during the war, who will give us their as they say, advice and comments so that you do not feel your involvement and it was really joint work, but i am very er hmm very positive and i am er absolutely optimistic about this conference and think that we will come from it and our delegation will come with a victory with additional prospects for ukraine in there simply cannot be another, the only thing that threatens us now is the only threat that is now the risks of patterned use of funds, and that is why

now we must. those people who now have 100% trust in us, by the way, you have already answered this question that i wanted to ask, how will we prove to our donors that the money will go as intended, you have already answered this question thank you to our viewers , i want to remind you once again that the conference in lugano, switzerland begins today at 2:30 p.m. kyiv time, the espresso tv channel will broadcast the opening ceremony live and the scheduled speech of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi will therefore not forgive mrs. kirom lis strass, the minister of foreign affairs of great britain today said that great britain can, at least, she would like great britain to pass a law that would confiscate russian assets and money and transfer them to the reconstruction

of ukraine, canada did it before, now this is exactly what great britain wants to do. what do you think? this can become a trend or not, this is one of the areas i have been doing specifically for quite a long time and it was a very, very high-quality moment when canada became the flagship of the first ukraine which legally ensured the transfer of assets to russia and ukraine and er hmm for reconstruction in our country it was important that someone be the first and canada was the country where the number of parliamentarians who are hidden ukrainian lobbyists is very large we have a very large support there so i i am grateful to the canadian parliament and all politicians. now it is the turn of great britain and the united states. what is the fundamental difference in canada? russia's money was relatively small,

about 400 million in britain, it is 10 billion pounds. in the united states - it's 300 billion, well, that is, you understand that other completely different money and completely different tension and completely different risks for the country that uh-uh, what law uh-uh or the resolution that will be adopted on the confiscation of money will then be challenged in international courts because of that now we are working with parliamentarians of great britain and with congressmen and congresswomen in the united states so that the legislation on the transfer of russian assets for the reconstruction of ukraine is such that komarno does not undermine everything there, this is critically important - it is also important for so that it is accepted first in the senate and in the british parliament and then so that it cannot be refuted, this process is also connected with political steps, so we hope that in the fall both countries will support us and

vote for such legislation, why is this also maybe because when there is no economic time for half a minute, why is it important politically, the leaders of the countries say we will no longer reach into your pockets, our dear voters, in order to support ukraine , now putin himself is paying for his crimes for his crime now we do not pay for it as democratic countries that support ukraine and it is very important emotionally politically uh so that such draft laws are adopted and have the support of society thank you, ladies, we will work out everything together with our partners, friends, colleagues so that putin pays for this very expensive for the aggression that he started on february 24 of this year against us. thank you, it was kira rudyk, a people's deputy of ukraine. well, well, we have to complete, because of a lack of time, this edition of the world during the war talked with his guests, obviously, about the world,

talked with his guests, obviously, about ukraine, which is a civilized part of this world. well, they talked with their guests about the present and the future. ah, the program world during the war, i remind you, is broadcast on mondays at 12:13 on the espresso tv channel. at least where it was not turned off, by the way, thank you for voting for us to be returned to the t2 digital broadcasting network, we will now monitor what the government will do, but thank you, and, of course, you can watch us on social media networks well, on youtube well, that's all, my name is yuriy fizer, see you in the most terrible times, serve, protect, help. thank you for protecting us. your devotion is felt by every city. we appreciate your support. every day, together, we are

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