about the random joy and inspiration of the moment that even in difficult times there is something to live for happiness in the little things life will win glory to ukraine this program is the verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 131st day of heroic ukrainian resistance against the russian occupation russian military intensive shelling of luhansk and donetsk regions in sumy oblast struck a psycho-neurological boarding school, and in kharkiv

a school was partially destroyed in the last day, approximately 230 russian invaders were eliminated, most in the slavyansk and donetsk directions, at the beginning of the great war, the russian occupiers had already lost in ukraine 36,200 people, 1,589 tanks, 3,754 armored combat vehicles, 804 artillery systems, 246 rocket salvo systems, 105 anti-aircraft defenses - 216 aircraft, 187 helicopters, or 629 units of automotive equipment , 15 ships and boats 143 cruise missiles 658 drones 65 units of special equipment quite tense situation remains as i said in luhansk and donetsk regions all other the regions are under attack, the regions that are

in the south and east of the country, meaning sumy oblast, chernihiv oblast, also the south of ukraine, mykolaiv oblast, odesa oblast, you know, friends, that over the past few days the enemy has been attacking quite intensively, mykolaiv has been destroying residential buildings. for several days we have been actively discussing and talking about what could happen on the northern border of ukraine, we know that the ukrainian state borders belarus and the length of this border is more than a thousand kilometers, and of course we let's follow the statements coming from the mouth of the self-proclaimed president of the republic of belarus , oleksandr lukashenka. i hope that

valery chaly, the extraordinary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019, will join us now, and we will talk with him specifically about the statements of oleksandr lukashenka and valery dobrogo happy to see you today. thank you for joining our broadcast. good day. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. so valery, yesterday oleksandr lukashenko declared that he fully supports the russian attack on ukraine. is an ally of russia in the war against ukraine, which he calls, as putin does, special operations, let's listen to what lukashenko said and in general who accuses us . what did you not know that we have the closest union of the russian federation with the state with which we are building a single unified federal state? where in the union there are two independent

nations. we are walking on thin ice, and this experience is the first in the world. of the armed forces, in fact, the united army already knew all of this, so why do we have a reproach today, we were and we will be together with brother russia, our participation in special operations was determined by me a long time ago, well , such a statement was made yesterday, july 3, when the so-called independence day was celebrated, because, well, considering this statement lukashenka, there is no independent belarus anymore. if he is talking about some new independent state united between russia and belarus

. to make certain predictions about whether belarus will go to ukraine or not, it has already gone and he said that we have been in this special operation since february 24, what else does this statement mean for us and for lukashenka, if you will allow me the phrase about independence day that never it wasn't like that, today i want to use this opportunity to congratulate the friendly people of the united states of america on independence day and remind lukashenko is looking for books how many examples were there when the country really united for a common future on a democratic basis and what happened to those dictatorial associations that tried to forcefully do as they did now or make a sermon from belarus and the problem is that lukashenko does not

represent an attack on belarus from the word, he is not legitimate at all, he has no rights, well, at least from the point of view of the external large part of the belarusian people therefore, it is clear that he will now carry out putin's whims, it is not for nothing that he has already, in fact, several times in the last days, and now, during this speech and at the meeting with lavrov, he tried so hard to explain all the time that we are equal, that's not us they are occupying it, they are not taking belarus away from russia, as he said there, the phrase is like that, that is, i understand what is happening, he perfectly understands what is happening, he is putin's puppet in order to simply leave the belarusian people in such a very difficult situation, in fact, and such an occupation of belarus and the fact that he refers to the union state. well, these documents have been around for decades, but he commanded, he

tried to keep the power to himself. and therefore, sovereign belarus is now just merging into the ceiling. by the way, yesterday the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi reacted to this statement of the self-proclaimed president of belarus. he said that such statements are dangerous, first of all, for the belarusian people. let's listen to zelenskyi . i think it's not a secret for anyone that rockets were fired from the territory of belarus over our country, and as far as i know, mr. lukashenko clearly or directly in one or another format, e-e gave a signal to the whole society, including belarusian, which is very important because it supports ukraine and our position. so he gave signals that without his will certain cancers were released, it

seems to me that he should not involve belarus in russia's war of aggression in russia against ukraine and the violation of all international treaties of international law in general. it seems to me that the signal that was sounded is dangerous. well, i think that we will see the result with you of these signals, mr. valery, what signal should be from the side of ukraine, because we understand that until now ukraine has clearly identified the aggressor, it is the russian federation, we introduced a visa regime for russians from july 1, we broke all diplomatic relations with the russian federation, that is, they took a lot of steps in order to show and demonstrate their will to be independent and distant from the russian federation, at the same time, before

this statement by lukashenko, we did not apply any sanctions or measures against belarus, i mean, we did not introduce visas for belarusians either we did not call on the whole world to treat oleksandr lukashenka more harshly, cruelly. is this the situation when kyiv can already say listen , belarusians, or at least the leader is a self-proclaimed leader belarus must answer together with putin and , accordingly, we must make some decisions for this, you and i know that the belarusian people are also in very difficult situations under a dictator, but at the same time it is different from the situation in russia , after all, there were attempts and partisan struggle for so that the weapons do not reach the borders of the belarusians in the opposition in various oppositions make statements

and indeed against the russian occupation of not only ukraine, part of ukraine well, belarus and now, in my opinion, it is very important for them and for everyone that they created a government, found a solution so that, well , the successors of this government, which i am sure will simply fall apart because they no longer control their power structures, this is what russia is doing and they are only on russian bayonets and lukashenka in the russian states, how do you pronounce it, is he working there now, that is why we need them such a position is already legitimate in order for them to prepare for the further development of belarusians in the future, i will say that really officially we will not be able not to react in the event of such a request, not only has he now signed a negotiation but the paradox of the situation is that he is no longer legitimate.

from the point of view of law, it turns out that well, de facto, he can sign all the orders, but how it will be carried out and to what extent we will see. i still take seriously the fact that part of it is precisely the e-e of the belarusian army that the order was issued, and some of them are already writing statements not agreeing to participate in the war of aggression of russia at all, which have nothing to do with their interests. i also made such statements, but what will happen next? well, it is obvious that they are facing the fate of those who entered the first wave let's say yes, near kyiv, and then we will officially act, i have no doubt, because it is necessary to respond to this from the point of view of international law. belarus is already in the middle of a war because there are rocket launches from its territory, and planes are constantly flying.

that is, all territories are going we have subversive groups. well, in principle, some belarusians are fighting in the same russian subversive groups . initially, from the 24th, they were involved, but not as official, just to hire mercenaries. and now it can change. it is clear what the consequences will be for those who decide to do so will remain alone in the ukrainian land, which is what they would like. in principle, they still have an opportunity, and many of them have the opportunity to make a well-considered decision. therefore, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, i think he is appealing to the belarusian people, although i have less optimism because a very large part of belarus, in which they left russia precisely on democratic grounds. well, i also add that starting from 2020 , we observed how, despite the difficult history of the last 20 years, when

lukashenko was in power, he was not even twenty . on the 25th or 27th, we saw the protests in belarus and how these protests were curtailed, but still they lasted there for three months. if i'm not mistaken, until november 2020, starting from august. can we count on the fact that lukashenka's trip to ukraine if this happens, it seems that the probability is quite high, considering that on june 2, lukashenko announced that we were allegedly shelling some positions in belarus, if this is if it happens again, he will strike even there, as he said to the people sitting in the palaces, obviously hinting at hmm, our state leadership, can it happen that this

war that lukashenka will officially enter into, that it can accelerate the fall of the lukashenko regime, well first of all, lukashenko himself will not go anywhere, he is not that stupid, you can say that about him, but he is definitely not stupid, that is why he can enter only together with putin and in the conditions when he will see that the order will be somehow carried out with cash, and so he can well, just provide u.s what kind of additional equipment do we need after what we need today? well, i’m being ironic, but it can happen, but he will do it only on putin’s orders, although his personal responsibility should not be reduced from this, it is clear that he is cornered and trying to howl he now declares that they yes, he admits and this was supported by the international community, it is already

confirmed that he is doing it, he gives such orders, but at the same time, he is keeping the defense, so he is now keeping the defense so that they do not go into the ruftil from the flank of the russian army alone came up with such a story from brest to gomel. now he keeps it going. well, let him keep it like that, that is, if in such a plan, it distracts our er forces and attention. well, at least it is historical, although we will preserve the possibility of developing relations between the belarusian and ukrainian people that is, then this is a scenario that in principle will be optimistic. although i will tell you, i am now looking rather pessimistic because, well, i would think that we would already have these conditions. but the belarusians can simply lose their

statehood completely now, the sovereignty that lukashenko still held back somehow with his personal desires to dictate belarus, now it can collapse with him, it would be worthwhile now to show maximum activity, like us, and prepare for such actions, and not from the other side, i understand the degree of provocation because putin needs to involve belarus in order to show that this is not only his war against ukraine, but this is a local confrontation and he is opposing nato, that is, here and belarus is also on the border, you know because formal russia borders there with the baltic countries, that is, there are no borders, that's why it seems to me that it's out of a desire to raise the stakes and take a blow from yourself. well, so that the blow came all over belarus, it's clear that from the moment as soon as it's already official, it will also be announced in the

belarusian armed forces they are participating in us, not that there will be a legitimate right to strike, as lukashenko lists the targets for them, they will list them for the ukrainian armed forces, that is, the free ones are listed as a whole, and we will have to do it, that is what putin wants to involve him in this and get then the confrontation between the two peoples well, if we talk about what has been heard for the last ten days, since the meeting between lukashenka and putin, it is obvious that putin is trying to turn belarus into a bridgehead into a military base , a large military base for the russian federation because the transfer of iskander to the border with western europe and the promise to transfer warheads capable of carrying nuclear weapons and many, many more promises that were given to lukashenko by putin

indicate that putin will use belarusians, including in the confrontation with lithuania. now we are watching how the russian federation and lithuania are trying, let's say, to lead a discussion at the world level about whether it is necessary to allow russian goods to kaliningrad, which is divided between which is located between lithuania and a large part of the mainland of the russian federation, how do you assess the prospects of russia being able to implement its threats, because they are publicly talking about what we will show to the lithuanians, and in general to all the inhabitants of the baltics, what russia is and all of us soon make sure that russia knows how to protect its

interests. what does this mean for lithuania? i think that this is a brave people and the correct policy they are building . all the leaders said unequivocally to the secretary general of nato, just mess up, just an inch of land, you will get a full response from all the countries above that, they will not climb anywhere, the russians will not dare to put a bunker there because he is afraid to provoke, as it were raise the stakes sharply with the hands of belarus and then, as it were, immediately agree not with ukraine, but with nato, with the whole world, who do not want this on an equal footing, so here i do not rule out this desire and provocation from putin, obviously by the hands of

the belarusians, but lukashenko already felt where this is going the guy has already said several times that we won't break through the corridor with any psuvalsky, uh, i told you , that is, he already understood that they want you from him from a military point of view, it has been prepared for a long time. everyone understands where the blows can be directed and now nato's decision to strengthen the baltic sea is a completely different way to bring poland to russia, and it doesn't give russia the opportunity to realize its goals. especially since they are losing their opportunities in the baltic sea, too , when finland and sweden have already applied to nato and they already they have been cooperating with the military structures of nato before, but now it will become a joint action because they have not been given guarantees for this period of accession to us, that is, if it is an attack there on finland, then they will also have to

respond to that, and they will not tolerate such a situation they are afraid to provoke a clash, formally, they will be some kind of quick where the raising of rates will be maximum, and then immediately russia offers to establish peace and fix the situation at the moment, and it does not want to introduce victory not with ukraine, but with the usa. so, such scenarios can be, but there is no russia's victories in that direction, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our sites on youtube and facebook. if you are now watching live from us, please like this video so that it promoted in the trends of youtube and facebook subscribe to our pages in social networks read our news on the website espresso tv by valeriu last week india of the north atlantic alliance itself took place, it is clear that a lot was said about ukraine and er, in fact

, er, they received approval for admission to nato and finland and sweden, then the parliaments of nato member countries must ratify this agreement. and why do you think the ukrainian side did not submit any applications ? it sounds and from the minister of foreign affairs and medrakulepa from the president's office that nato is not ready to make such decisions today, we are not giving up on our path enshrined in the constitution, but today we believe that this is not realistic and therefore we will develop scenario b - this is to develop security guarantees through other mechanisms, i believe that this is, well, the position that must be

adjusted must be clearly emphasized that our key priority, given the fact that it is difficult, that it is difficult, that it is not the readiness of the nato countries, but still, this is also the way of the member of the party guarantees of the fifth article of mechanical engineering, after the deoccupation of ukraine from the russian troops, we will have no other option than to immediately apply for the next time, and i don't see another realistic scenario for nato, then they weigh the weight placed on the big one and at the same time the situation that it is further sold to them to be worth the inclusion of ukraine on our other possibilities of cutting off russia and joint action in ensuring the security of europe, and i believe that at that moment the position of less costs should prevail if ukraine within the alliance is wise to leave it

opportunities for further minutes ago, our position today should be such a key line - this membership is enshrined in the constitution of ukraine, supported by the ukrainian people and the government, the opposition should say it in parallel, take realistic steps in conditions when there is no real political solution yet, but bring this political solution closer, just as they were concentrated efforts on european integration, which at first turned out to be absolutely expected and we said many times there that it was impossible without a visa, then the association agreement was a parallel process, they also said that that was all it's difficult, russia intimidated and only sign the agreement, all of you will be like this, it's just installments and then candidate status. that is, it was also not

considered legal, so i think it is necessary to act in the same way, what is not realistic today, tomorrow may be the only possible option, mr. valery. explain to our viewers and to me why russia, which bet on the fact that ukraine would never join nato and this was the main goal of the so-called special military operation, or rather the great war of russia against ukraine why is it so moscow is quite simple is now commenting on the possible joining of finland and sweden to nato, well, they say well, they will join, they will join, well, what are you going to do here, it is their right , why does moscow accept the right of finland and sweden to join nato and is so categorically against our membership in the north atlantic treaty well, if you hear their explanation, then everything is very simple. when they

seized the territory of ukraine on a snake, they of course said that it was theirs there, the ideologues said that it was a sacred place without it, now russia will rule the world, the island of change was captured later they took them there, pumped them up there, squeezed them out, and they told good will, yes, a volunteer, that is, russia respects force, and in the event that they face the same force, they simply explain to their people that they themselves are so good, that's how they explained finland, well, what will increase in us the border with nato is doubled. we said there that on the border in 1997, well, something went wrong, now the border with finland will be twice as important to the former neutral. well, how to explain. if you can't do anything about it, everything there is no such thing as ukraine

the war in ukraine is taking away all your resources and you can't answer now, we actually covered up with our war now the possibilities in finland for sweden to join it so painlessly in fact to nato and we will have such a moment one day and for which we must prepare, that's why russia will never say the way it does in fact, this is one reason, the other, of course, is the understanding that, well, ukraine, from putin’s point of view, it will still be how he thinks of taking full control of moscow. he is still trying to make every effort in this direction, and there he is already resigned, there are no chances, therefore, in principle , the only thing that stops or shapes their position is the ability of one or another country to protect its interests, all the other arguments are there, there is a common border, the approach

of infrastructure is already there, everything is gone because they simply failed, and they failed because the threats are greater than them they don't work and they can only do it where they already have the opportunity. well, that's right. unfortunately , what happened to us. because of the occupation of part of the territory , and here they will uh, press, pressure everyone to show their power, well, you know, it's an optician, so if against him, the force immediately stops or hits weaker. well, while we have such a situation, we must add st. petersburg's gopnyk, then it will be just a complete portrait of the person who is now trying to blackmail the whole world. the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine kyrylo budanov tried to answer this question. he gave an interview to rbc of ukraine and told how

and when the war will end, let's listen to the year and let's put it this way, the state in which active hostilities will decrease enough will decrease enough, but it will not be the end. you must understand what i am saying correctly. the year 91 will be the end of this whole adventure. what has russia done? when can this happen, what will it take next year i think so, that is, kyrylo budanov says that next year we can enter the borders of 1991, the question here is whether the world is ready to support ukraine in order for ukraine to enter the borders of 1991, the time frame is quite short, why i am asking this because it of course, armaments are of course finances, of course military aid is more than we have

now, how is the world set up, you communicate with diplomats of different countries, what they say about what is happening in our country and about the prospects of ending the war, now there are two lines, one conditional can be called the line of peace and second, the line of justice, the line of peace is the pope said he would go to moscow by orest putin, he would try to achieve something , the circulation of the secretary general of the un went there, talked to putin earlier and cough schultz and the president of france, i.e. the cardigan, the president of turkey, and this is the peace that is actually at the expense of part of the territory of ukraine. in short, there is a line of justice where the country has not only russia to lose, but ukraine always has these two lines