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the world is set, you talk to the diplomats of different countries, what do they say about what is happening in our country and about the prospects for the end of the war, now there are two lines, one conditional can be called the line of peace, and the second - the line of justice, the line of peace - this is the pope rimskyi said he will go to moscow to the mountains with putin, he will try to achieve something, the secretary of the un secretary general went there and spoke with putin earlier, and chancellor schultz and the president of france , that is, erdigan , the president of turkey. territories of ukraine in short, there is a line of justice, where the country has to lose, not only russia. ukraine is always in shape. these two lines depend on the mood in the countries that help
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us with weapons. it always depends on how the situation at the front is. in ukrainian society, the readiness for further opposition to the russian, all this creates one or another situation, a few weeks ago there was a big threat, as i believe that this line is conditional to the peace of the surrender of ukrainian literature winners and now i can no longer say that because it was declared very clearly by the group of seven and too much in madrid and the political statements of many countries will support ukraine as long as necessary. that the confrontation went as it actually was basic, it was
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existential, that is, it is difficult for us to survive in these conditions, and it is clear that without allies and their further increase in aid, it will be very difficult for us, but they have now demonstrated a readiness to act more actively, and if there are no more such statements as, er , support, then suddenly a step back and then forward again, but just constant support is maximum , then i am sure we will start talking about dates for now, sell, i will dare to say i only know that there really are children the following months are very important . that is, august is again the key and september is the beginning when, according to some data, putin set the task for all these elections on the election day of september 15 to take some steps already in ukraine to
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secure the territory for himself, this is the month of august the beginning of september will be important, what will happen on the front , the further outcome will depend on this. by the way, kyrylo budanov, whom we have already mentioned above , says that russia will not release nuclear weapons in the near future because it will accelerate the disintegration of russia, let's listen to budanov, can they use well, in theory they can. but will they use these weapons? no, they will not use them in the near future, definitely not. i said this a long time ago. when did these panicky moods begin and now i am telling you, despite all the official hostile rhetoric and statements like that we will now wipe the whole world into radioactive ashes, they all clearly understand that the use of nuclear weapons will simply accelerate the disintegration of russia,
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for 131 days we have seen and heard about the use by russia of all types of weapons that russia has except nuclear weapons and of chemical weapons and we saw what russia is doing on our territory, destroying our cities and villages , are there still people left in the world who can trust putin and his diplomacy, a good question in principle ? respect, i think that the understanding that there is a favorable position, especially once everyone has one situation, is another matter, how does it affect the readiness to conduct official conversations, on the one hand, there is a country of a conditionally
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democratic west, there is too much eu, australia, zealand, and japan. and there are countries that, unfortunately , now well, they are not playing a constructive role for the future of the world. big countries. i would really like them to change their position. india as a great democracy. well, the position they have taken now is completely unbecoming of india. that is, it should be completely on the side of ukraine against russian aggression , despite the purchase of weapons by russia, there are others, all the more disarmament. what a holiday. it did not show effectively, that is, china is also history. to be on the sidelines somewhere, they are ready to solve their problems with putin's hands. this is how the situation looks, that's why no one believes him, but they use it as they want, but even north korea is using this
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situation for their own purposes, these brats, all of them, the nuclear club used to be waved only by the north korean dictator, and now putin joins him joined so now two in the world the biggest thing is there is no reason why i am er on this part we all perfectly understand that this is not what is there trust what is just an attempt to use the situation with russia in its prices why am i asking about this because we know that in in november of this year, a meeting of the g20 will be held in indonesia in jakarta, first putin received an invitation, then this invitation was withdrawn, then again this invitation came due to the possible presence of the president of russia, the composition of the meeting participants is still in question australian prime minister anthony albanis, who was in kyiv yesterday, said that if the
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kremlin leaders come to meet him, he will receive an unfriendly reception, let's hear what he said about it. if mr. putin wants to come to this meeting, i am not sure that he will do it. then he will get the reception he deserves, not friendly. no, he does not respect the authorities in the world and he does not behave in accordance with the values of this world in 2022. i know from my conversations with the leaders in madrid at the summit there, he and i and i simply agree with them. well, by the way , boris
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johnson, the prime minister of great britain , also spoke about such a possible reception. the reception will be friendly, and what will it mean for international diplomacy if the president of a country that is waging war against another country and killing civilians appears in this 20th, it means that he remains in the club of countries that decide the fate of the whole world and shake his hand if not all, then at least a part of these participants, what is the country of the twenties, it is an expanded composition of the countries of the seven, which includes the leading economies of the world , 20 democratic countries, there are different types of regimes, but in terms of the volume of the economy, it means that the country is included there, so if we continue with russian economy
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, it will simply fall out of the top 20 in the future, simply because of its fact, because the economy of russia is smaller than the economy of texas, to be clear, but these are all volumes, although it seems that this is the economy that can finance weapons, then this is how they perceive that this is a big country, what to do now? no, the next forecast of any full-fledged 20-year-old party in indonesia with the direct participation of putin personally will not happen in any case if it is such a configuration of 20 l and putin will be there with everyone, this is the end of the face that is, they understand it perfectly, that's why they hope that the invitation has also been sent and they will leave according to the distance of the back who wants who wants to stay here's the scenario now i think it's like that again it's the same
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story it's not diplomacy it's something like that dictates and double standards, respectively, be very clear, the first position is that putin is personally present, for example, he came to indonesia, and there is a boycott in this by the countries that were against such a decision. i will not be myself. thanks to valery , there is information that the minister of defense of the russian federation serhiy shoigu met with putin and reported to him that the operation to liberate the so-called lpr was successfully carried out and, as putin said, the units that participated in the liberation were the so-called lpr should rest and renew their combat capabilities - says putin, generals lapin and
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surovyk should also have reported to putin about the progress of the war in the east of ukraine, and putin says that the eastern and western groups should fulfill their tasks according to the previous plan, what does this also mean it is not yet clear, that is, they have some plan of their own, according to which they are going with regard to diplomacy in general, russian diplomacy and that of world diplomacy . just a few days ago, one of the french tv channels showed a film about the negotiations of the president of france, emmanuel macron. also the president of the russian federation, putin, and there were used fragments of the conversations of putin and macron, let's see a small plot, or rather a small part of this program, because this film, which was broadcast in france, was called
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the president of europe and the war, he is ready for some concrete steps that he prepared eh, some draft laws on the german agreement are agreed upon, which means that they appeared on february 17, when zelensky said that the bowls of the agreement are managing the distance so that we were initially in a losing position, all of ukraine should return to the nuclear bridge. well, as you can
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see, the conversation took place on february 23, 2022, that is, the day before the great war, and it was a confidential conversation between the president and, as far as i understand, the reaction of moscow, in particular, maria zakharova said that paris violated the confidentiality of the conversations putin and macron, which characterizes france's approaches to diplomacy. the continuation of the war means that the moment when western countries, well, under the leadership of washington, speaking russian, do not allow ukrainians not to think, not to talk about peace, not to discuss peace, therefore, now the demand for initiatives to pacify the situation has decreased, but we do not
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doubt that sooner or later everything - still healthy sense and for possessing and again at the last round of negotiations before which ukrainian will have to understand once again all our conditions, they know them very well, he will agree to them, sit down at the table and simply зафиксировать that document, which could mean a lot to you , agreed to it, let's say this is a very strange position of moscow, which completely disregarded all the laws, all the conventions, all the rules that exist in the world and reproached france for the fact that they leaked this conversation between putin and macron, this documentary film er, p. valery what is it called in diplomacy? in other words, it is generally a loss of trust of partners who are negotiating. i know what happens after that, that is , putin does not pick up the phone from macron and does not want to communicate with him, or what happens next, well, first of all
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despite the war and my attitude towards racists and criminals in general, from the point of view of diplomacy , to make such conversations public well, let's say it's not accepted, they can get there in some other ways but we will all understand that this is still what they say, it's a mixed conversation, it's a wrong step, but what they they did it and took such a step. it 's just macron showing putin that he's a liar, that he simply doesn't want to talk to him anymore. he's already made these 100 of his phone conversations, and now he just showed you everything. i'm done with this one. therapy and telephone diplomacy, i don’t have any more opportunities to talk to you like that, because even there, er, you interrupted the recording where putin talks about the fact that zelensky declared about the nuclear status of ukraine, well, nonsense zelensky, that's absolutely why there are
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statements in this telephone conversation, if they are true . i think that yes, which definitely show that putin at that moment did not just make a decision, he already launched the operation on the 23rd, the operation was already in full swing in the territory of the donetsk luhansk region and of ukraine in including subversive groups were already working, i talked about it on the 22nd, it started, and then a large-scale event of all parties took place on the 24th, then he speaks rudely with macron in this conversation, he just mocks him , and this actually means what will happen next, macron will not be bought for such things, well, it shows that macron still tried to take some steps as a peacemaker, he will negotiate with the president of the united states to agree to meet and talk about the pressure on ukraine
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, but still he says there volodymyr where did you get it? such lawyers who told you that some separatist movements can demand actions from an independent state, i.e. they understood everything perfectly. and putin had already made a decision about a military operation at that moment, that is, this is what this conversation showed, and then you need to understand the price of all this conversation, simply and simply that they actually give little and even your sincere effort to stop a big war in europe should be based on a more effective way, so at that moment it was necessary not to engage in conversations, but to send preventive measures to ukraine air defense systems, planes, er, with weapons, what are we now? so, we are gradually getting to do it right away, then it could have been restrained. and so it’s all useless talk that doesn’t work. well, there
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really wasn’t this fragment about nuclear weapons and statements. zelenskyi is just russian propaganda on the eve of the war, do you remember on saturday, he spoke on the eve of the war, on the last saturday, zelensky spoke at the munich security conference. he said that we tried three times in 2014 to convene a meeting on the consultation of states on guarantees of the budapest memorandum and actually he mentioned there that if this memorandum does not work, then all the package decisions are called into question, and therefore, all the obligations that ukraine took on, then they also do not work. and here in this it is clear from the situation that putin tried to twist it together with his propaganda that he said zelensky announced that ukraine would return to nuclear weapons under putin's secretary in
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this little synchronicity that you and i had before that i heard him say that ukraine supposedly knows all of russia's demands and sooner or later it will come and still have to agree on something, and we are supposedly waiting for that, and the demands of the russian federation have been constantly changing and constantly being adjusted over the past four months, so they wanted a full identification of demilitarization, and they got it on the contrary, with the militarization of ukraine, we get a lot of weapons. they wanted the spread of the russian world in ukraine, well, it is meant at the expense of, as they say in quotation marks, denazification, people, on the contrary, became have a negative attitude towards russia, most of them started talking about the death of the russian peace in ukraine, that's it for you. now it is clear what is the main demand
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of putin and the russian side to ukraine . an active part of ukrainian society, which is against the fact that you submit to russia, will be destroyed both physically and through prison, as now they are doing filtration in their camps, killing people, mocking those who are their relatives representatives of the armed forces or active, who takes an active political position, so it is clear to me that this is what they want. well, of course, for ukraine to be part of a new restored union of a new
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empire that is no longer the ussr under the leadership of monarch putin. entered which they occupied and all this would be for them uh, they think it is very appropriate for the 100th anniversary of the creation of the soviet union, so-and-so , and now the desire for realism is clear that it is unrealistic, that's why they want at this stage to gain a foothold as much as possible in the occupied territories of ukraine in order to have a springboard for further blackmail and military actions, there is no doubt that if they remain, well, kherson is in the south, further there near kharkov, if they remain in these territories, then they will be plasmas for attacking kyiv and odessa that is, it will be a war, that's definitely why they are trying to take advantage of the moment, they are asking for this peace through us, that is, there are additional second channels, which are unofficial, they
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tell everyone. we are ready now, but now let's fix it what we bought and we will stop, we will not go further, this is the first demand and promise, like give us what we have collected and everything, now the second question is that ukraine can not have developed armed forces, that is, the limitation is that it cannot conduct international training, it is normal that it cannot receive modern equipment, that is, ukraine must to relax this is a key issue, their ports remain except for odesa behind russia blocking, which means that the black sea of azov, the internal lake, is also under their control and in fact, well, it is still incomplete but serious, that is, further they demand abandoning nato, as well as ours, such experts ran er luna's head to propose neutrality according to the finnish
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or austrian model. while they were running with this model, it had already collapsed, so they are sitting there again, the churches are again in these groups, they are again trying to figure something out, so vyskov understands that there is all this confusion , all the groups that are looking for some kind of solution, and he is very much counting on the fact that under external pressure, you stopped the supply of heavy weapons with a very simple act. russia is getting its uh, that's the fixation of its seizure of the occupation of ukrainian territories and will also demand to weaken ukraine in such a way that we can no longer oppose their blackmail at all, that's our plan, we haven't come up with anything else, that is, there is only one plan - it's either inside or this country is destroyed. and the second is what is happening. it depends on the
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situation. the situation depends on three factors. this is all the front and our ability to knock them out. accept and continue to counterattack. this is the support of allies and weapons, including the planes of the future. number of systems, as they are going now, of air defense against missile defense, but in other blood, i have more quality, more quantity, and the third is the readiness of the ukrainian people to mobilize , unite and allow them to implement one or another plan, that is the situation, the probability of such negotiations at the current stage is minimal the correct official position of president zelenskyi , voiced by everyone, was that now we perceive it as the capitulation of ukraine and no one will accept it. thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation. it was valery chaliy, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in
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