what a genius and everyone expected that somewhere there would be half of the consumption of e-e oil products, gasoline and diesel in the first place, but this was a mistaken opinion because after the cancellation of the administrative regulation of the state regulation on gasoline and the overvalued price increased, that is, do you remember 40 hryvnia diesel gasoline 37 38 then the price was set at 58 for diesel and 52 for gasoline well plus-minus there are smaller if the indicators and that fact actually played a role here well wallet that is people for them this is a high price even today and queues that disappear e -e what eh in principle, there is no such thing. well, it is so active, as it was there a month ago. such crazy queues were the reason in the first place, even in the first place, it is not that the oil product supply channels are really being established. the channels are meant to be inexpensive , so what kind of tanker truck is going there, and the channels - this should be in mind, there are specific volumes of fuel that are waiting for ukrainian ukrainian companies in the

european markets. well, where we pick up in poland , there is the czech republic, there is hungary. the fact that the price of lifts and people started to save let's say based on this situation that exists, that is , they don't have money to behave and that's why you say that we won't touch autogas, that's just very interesting there was no market regulation there, the price was driven there it was speculative, just to the point of improbability, and now it is also falling, consumption is actually 42 hryvnias per liter of autogas, yes, the average price is, for example, 42 43. today it is already 37 hryvnias there 307 that is, it is very shown, what are you waiting for ? you ask what will happen. you wait and go and burn gasoline. the prices will also decrease and will decrease somewhere , i think, in the corridor of uah 3-4. that is, it will be a certain tool of those companies, well, private companies that carry fuel in order to at least sell a certain amount of fuel, and the price which was

high all the time and even before, and even when there was a shortage of fuel, i will tell you this, it was largely the desire of these private companies, who understood what awaits us in the future, what we are talking about now, they understood that there would be a decrease consumption of money is not on the large scale unemployment remains a problem with work remains where people take money they are not in their pockets they do not grow the truth therefore accordingly they understood what this situation would lead to they were making money and the price is high overpriced i will tell you right away what the price is today yes, it is not realistic, even if you put aside the issue of reduced vat and customs duties that were taken , roughly speaking, they are taken in europe, it costs uah 20 and diesel fuel add the transport component of uah 15 add the network of uah 10 that's the price for you, well, uah 40.45 - this is the peak that should be and it will be. you understand the question and i think it will also be raised. it will return to the discussion. by the way, unfortunately, the antimonopoly committee did not investigate him. well, it is certainly possible due to the

complex circumstances of the martial law and the war of tensions there, but he had would still be let's say yes, well, it's declared, and p olezhe here, do you agree with your colleague uh, well, look, before the war, 75% of the ukrainian market in our country was russia , belarus, and 25% of the market is kremenchuk and shevelivka today moment kremenchug and shebelenko not they are working for objective reasons in connection with the missile attacks there, the russians, the belarusians, certainly do not supply anything to ukraine , that is, we currently do not. at the moment, there is no such thing, that is, the only

source of supply of petroleum products today is the western border, this is true, at the moment, actually, we already said that ukraine is in order to reduce the price of fuel, instead of 20% value added tax is collected by e-e 7%. e-e on every liter and e does not take the abscissa. that is, it is something that today the consumer does not pay extra to the state budget, or shall we say. yes, the state budget dates the price of petroleum products. let's now see what is being done with the price of petroleum products in europe today. there, approximately half of the cost oil product sold by the gun, these are taxes at the moment in austria, approximately somewhere at the level of uh, 2.5 € a liter, vitaliy, a little more, up to three liters, up to three euro liters, why are the austrians an indicator because

austria is one of the largest producers of petroleum products in europe, the reason behind it is the huge omb refinery for the processing of petroleum products for the processing of oil. you and i are talking about the actual cost of the product, it is a little higher than what my colleague said. so, and the price that is today, it is practically reduced, so that it completely covers the needs that the trailer has in order to start this oil product er-er and there the maximum network is very small, and indeed, if, for example, taxes are returned, the price of oil products

would be much higher, for example, well, look , if you pay 20 percent instead of seven percent, if you introduce an excise tax, then your oil product will cost uah 80-90. will not take therefore, for now, today is a balanced price, which theoretically satisfies the trader. what is the problem with the volume of consumption before the start of the war, we consumed 600,000 e-e tons of oil products per month, of which approximately 2/3 this there was a diesel car and one-third gasoline, at the moment, the real consumption has decreased by about 30 percent, indeed, the industry is really much smaller, the flow of private cars has actually decreased a little, and the needs that ukrzaliznytsia uses today, well, at the same time , the total volume of what e- has increased actually, the armed forces also take, well, roughly somewhere. let's

focus on 450,000. actually, at the moment, if the diesel counterattack more or less satisfies the total volume of gasoline , the design is less than the market, so we are today and further well, to some extent there are certain queues at gas stations even at the current price. what do we have to look forward to in the future? i think that if the price in europe will more or less remain at the current level, and it will probably be like that, i mean in wholesale purchases without their taxes, the price at gas stations in ukraine will also fluctuate somewhere plus or minus at the level of 53-50 hryvnias per liter. it is unlikely that in the summer we will see such an additional increase. well, what will happen on the world oil market and then there really is plus er 20-25 days we will see growth in ukraine so far i thank you, this is the level yes, both opinions have actually been heard and we would also

like to discuss one topic with you, the heating season is already approaching a-a fast pace already mid-summer a-a m-m local administrations er-e the authorities are starting to think about how ukraine can remain warm under the circumstances that we have now, for example, the leader of donetsk region said yesterday that we have by the way, i will remind you that oleksiy kucherenko expressed the opinion that once again ukraine can cover everything with its own production there the issue of heating and he said that naftogaz clearly sets too high demands, let us remind you that vitrenko is demanding almost 300 billion budget funds in order to provide ukraine with gas, in particular, and not only with gas, but on the other hand, for example, the head of donetsk region said that the entire donetsk region 100% remain without

gas for the heating season, according to which there will be problems with heating and he said that for a calm heating season it is necessary that as many residents of donetsk as possible leave the region for the heating season and even 300,000 local residents staying there today is too much to get through the winter, what do you think about this, what will the heating season be like in ukraine, olezhe, let's start with you, well, look, in reality, we need to understand that when you and i talk about the heating season , we are talking only about power outages, we are talking about objects of critical infrastructure, we are talking about thermal power plants, and we are talking about heating networks in the boiler house, well, that is, what is currently the m-th target during shelling uh, our enemies ago

the actual question of the normal passage of the heating season is a question a little broader than the price of gas. the government took a step towards the population. it left the price of gas for the population unchanged for the next year at 7.99. in principle, the price remained. what concerns the total volumes of gas that will actually be accumulated today in underground gas storages, in reality the issue of pressure in gas pipes will be sufficient because well, i will certainly not tell a big secret to anyone when you inform that the pressure in the east of ukraine in distribution networks, er, well, actually, it is the result of the transit of russian gas to europe, well, that is, if we

predict that the transit will continue, it will certainly be so, this is the position of the europeans with issues related to pressure, and in principle, everything will be more or less normal, the only problem in my opinion the view is actually a critical infrastructure, mr. yurii, do you agree with the opinion of mr. oleg, and what do you advise people to do, and in order to protect themselves in the heating season, some practical advice is correct, i agree, mr. oleg, everything is correct he says and the key point is actually he is so accurate as he says and why is it accurate yes, we depend on the transit of russian gas if the transit of russian gas stops, it is not that there will be no pressure, the gas will simply not be in the pipe, that is, the gas that will be pumped into the underground storages that will receive to be produced by ukraine independently and even if we can somehow get it from the european union in reverse, and this is a big issue today,

there is a huge shortage of gas there today, and it is also strange , we will take it there, who will give it to us, that's it based on this, the key question is probably rather articles of statements made by zelenskyi and other representatives about what we will be. chernyshov from the government when they said that we will have a difficult winter because of the cattle. we are talking about the fact that this is the biggest risk today, including for consumers of the population and for communal services, i.e. for the people of the population, formally what you mentioned kucherenko , so the people’s deputy, he correctly says that we really do not have enough of our own production for our own needs, moreover, it is oriented if we previously, the population and teplokomunenergo consumed somewhere, we fit into 13 billion cubic meters, maybe even there . well, maybe 13 billion fit somewhere, it’s actually what you are good at extracting, the state company naftogaz, eh , now i think we will fit into 10 billion because, in principle, according to teplokomunenergo in terms of heat within the limits of kharkiv and dniprotrovsk, consumption there is also reduced in the southern region, objectively yes, donetsk, which you mentioned, donetsk region, so

also if it were to reduce, that is, all this will fall away, well , in the balance, therefore, 10 billion will be enough for us in principle for the population, but i will repeat the problem as follows: if there is no gas in the system in the pipe, this will be a huge problem for this, this is the amount about which, by the way, kucherenko also says, well, what you have there is 264 billion , what the verkhovna rada wants to allocate to naftogaz actually has 150 billion to go to buy imported gas and a naftogaz windmill, in general, he said eight billion dollars are needed to buy gas, 5 billion are determined, well, the point is that we need to buy 5 billion cubic meters of gas somewhere, in addition, that is, 5 billion we pump, that is, 10 billion are underground storages plus 5 billion will be 15 billion, in principle this would be absolutely enough for us, but under such conditions, for example, stopping the transit of russian gas , this will not be enough for us. if we pump gas from underground storage to the east of ukraine, to the center, well, to the capital, in the direction of the capital. to ensure

consumption, 15 billion will not be enough for us, but we will need more, probably from that position, the population of the population, i will honestly say, objectively, it will not be able to do anything, that is, it is screwed up and they will not switch to electricity, they will not switch, there are no such there is not enough firewood for everyone in march, when there was a critical situation, people who found themselves in a situation, well, someone did not have enough road , i am literally telling you, they could not buy it, but somehow reduce the volume of gas consumption itself. i know that. well, i don’t know how to reduce the heating temperature in the pri- in which energy will be reduced. i also found the same one that i mentioned to you. he said it would be 16-17, but i am from komunenergo. i know they have such intentions, they will minimize gas consumption accordingly. somewhere in the area. well, i think maybe not 16, but 18°, maybe, well, that’s also the minimum amount of reduction, but personally . for example, there is individual heating, who has it? well, it’s a matter of conscience, it’s a matter of conscience, it’s a question of how a person views it and how comfortable he is, because for example, if there is children, older people, people who,

for example, suffer from various diseases there, for them even the temperature is 19° there, it already has a significant effect, but we live in a difficult time during a war of emergency, so here the question is for everyone individually yes, and what is the understanding of the problem yes, please, i’ll explain what it’s about and why we’re discussing pressure and so on, see e in order to ensure the pumping of gas through the pipes, compressors work, the same gas that is pumped burns in the compressors that is, the more you need to provide pressure to the area that is far from the underground gas storage, the more you have to burn the same gas, and there were periods when the total volume of gas consumption in compensators , that is, the so-called process gas, reached three to three and a half billion cubic meters per year, that is, we must understand that this is not a small

volume, it is an extremely large volume of gas that must be burned in order to maintain the pressure in the pipes, so actually, i still believe that there will be enough ukrainian gas i believe, uh, again, we are talking about the reconstruction of ukrainian industry, if the reconstruction begins , mr. president said that we should not wait for the end of the war, we should start rebuilding, now there are enterprises that, for example, use gas as raw materials for large enterprises, in any case, it is necessary to heat energy carriers for large enterprises, according to the balance in peacetime, we took somewhere in the order of 29 billion cubic meters of gas every year, of which our own output was ukr production of the order of 13, the order of seven six billion meters cubic meters were mined by private individuals in ukraine, that is, the total volume with private individuals was in the order of 19-20 billion and we bought 9 billion

. ukraine's production is probably decreasing because the main fields in our country are poltava region - it's actually near kharkiv. there are probably certain issues related to gas production in connection with security, but in any case, we are somewhere in ukraine to take 16-17 billion cubic meters of gas there this year , theoretically i think that in ukraine it will be necessary to buy somewhere 5-6 billion, no more, that is, according to my calculations, this is how the balance will look this year in connection with the war, that is, in principle we will be supplied with gas once again i repeat, the only problem is the critical infrastructure , the destroyed thermal power plants, the destroyed power plants, the destroyed boiler houses in the

cities , because this will be a problem for them. eh, they built perspectives regarding the heating season , they gave interesting forecasts, for example, eh, oleg penzin said that fuel at gas stations will cost uah 53-57, a more optimistic forecast from yuriy kovalchuk, e. he believes that prices for diesel gasoline will fall to three or four hryvnias regarding the heating season, they also talked, no, the optimist is that it may have taught someone what it is to manually try to manually regulate prices, it is good. they lead , maybe it taught someone something in the government. in touch with vitaliy good day good day, we wanted to start with such an international topic that finland and sweden have officially already resolved this

negotiation process and agreed on all their problems to be more precise, all the wishes were somehow conditioned and agreed with turkey, which negotiated something there, we do not know, so in fact this is already a solved question, whether ukraine has any practical results for ukraine that sweden and finland are joining the north atlantic union so quickly. well, first of all we can always say that i'm sorry, there is an express method of acquiring membership that does not involve a long way , speed is enough, this is the first, that is, i am exclusively on the other hand, this is an exception for countries that were so in the european price and uh, their uh the standards of the functioning of the standards of the national problems of the economic system were built into this collective measure because of course for them

joining the alliance was by and large a political formality necessary but it was a political formation ukrainian history differs from the old finland of sweden in that we have to ensure the implementation nato standards related to governance, the management organization of certain standards related to the administration of a military organization in the state is another story which requires negotiations and e.e. rapprochement of positions. we cannot, like sweden or finland, conduct an inventory of the ministry of defense, because there is a

war in our country. and on the other hand, we constantly hear statements from er european politicians that the european union is so, but the perspective on the existence of the soviet union and the prospects for membership in nato is not a matter of time, so er, against all the objections of our the minister of foreign affairs said that, look at the moment. but sweden received why ukraine can't be on all these objections, our western partners look at it with their hands and say, sorry, these are separate cases. these are separate cases, separate stories. yes, but on the other hand , i wanted to hear a clearer answer. it is interesting to say that in finland, sweden is not a completely defenseless country. that is, sweden has a very powerful defense industry

and a fairly serious army. before russia's attack on ukraine, they received a contract for several dozen f-35s there - this is a strategic fifth -generation fighter, it bombs, but they are bombers, the americans do not sell them to everyone, well, turkey does not receive them, for example, will it be in nato, that is, but from which country saw what is happening in ukraine, eh, without an alternative, they changed their neutral eh statuses there, and it is clear that it is necessary to look for protection under the umbrella of nato. i think that this is a very good argument for those who have been in ukraine for some time says that it is possible nato is not a very big priority

for us, moving towards war against them on the part of the russian federation, they do not take dominance, then these countries would have significant problems, which were registered, then in russian, the men rushed in, a question mark, ukraine or not, ukraine can resist and be er, it can resist a grenade conventional attacks by the russian federation , that is, on a full line, that is why the argument is so strong, but this does not mean that it can be fully used in the dialogue with western partners, because there the decision is not made before it is not adopted by the leadership of the alliance itself, but by the political leadership of the participating countries, a consensus decision is brought up in due course, this is not a vote, this is a consensus decision of all countries without exception, that is, in order to go there

, it is necessary to remove the contradictions that exist between countries and we have quite a lot among the young women of countries that make claims to ukraine , have their own comments or are under the strong influence of pro-russian clubs, mr. vitaly . meanwhile, the european union is already preparing a new package of sanctions against russia, and this is already the seventh package of a- and they say that it can be approved before the summer holidays, that is, by the end of july, that is, in this month . everything will be related to certain actions or inaction of the russian federation is not related to

solutions important for the european jesus , such as the treatment of ports and supplies for construction, the issue of hunger is becoming more and more relevant for the european union in the countries of north africa and europe and is afraid that as soon as the first problems appear, what will be the next waves of migration of the european union and this zone of responsibility of the european union, therefore, the introduction of these sanctions will primarily lead to the extent to which russia will be sensitive or the south will make certain concessions in this important ro- in europe , the question is that the second position is the prospect of a possible reduction in the intensity of hostilities in ukraine, if it appears, the european court will very much drag with sanctions, if it does not occur, then, accordingly, the european court will how to use it as a tool of pressure

to push russia to the natural process and thirdly , this is an internal political struggle because in the countries of the european union there is such a sharp and powerful pro-russian language that is not interested in the introduction of a full empiric web, or the banning of trade in oil products, gas, energy carriers, or the introduction of disconnection from swift of all banking structures of the russian federation, whether it is a new case or a new list of e-e people who fall under the influence of personal sanctions , which is now being talked about by a whole list of bankers and representatives of the complex of enterprises and medium-sized enterprises and the russian federation, after several such cases, there will generally be a question of whether there will be any officials and managers in russia companies that are outside the sanctions, and this argument, despite the fact that it looks quite weak, if you look at it from kyiv, then

for the europeans it is cosmic speed, taking into account their procedure, their bureaucratic procedures, in addition, for them it is a significant political, hmm, significant political will the use of anti-stations because at the moment electronic cycles of some sociological polls show that the supporters of a tough e-e tough course in relation to russia in european countries are losing the support of the population of voters in in the end, political forces are forced to take into account the mood of their voters, and this does not play in ukraine's favor. therefore , it is very important to receive another case of sanctions from them now, and kyiv should speed up the pressure

while there is this window of opportunity, while we can take advantage of it, then it will be more difficult, but here is an interesting question. a way we can press, but yesterday andrii said an interesting thing about how it would be cool if we already showed some of our actions regarding what europe is asking of us , including anti-corruption, but in another way we can put pressure on europe so that it doesn't get disappointed in us at some point, don't get tired of helping us, there is a question of who is so in the fact that it is connected in the social mass disappointment of this issue more ecologically, the people of the european union who were supporting the activity are not disappointed in us e-e electronic about ukrainian, that is, it is indicated that the actual psychological products are called one of the restrictions, which e-e

taxes are the last value in their countries, and on the other hand, support for ukraine does not decrease, as it were, what is happening about this heaven and this it is necessary to comment on it with needles, it is important to comment on our e-e, for our benefit, we have to say goodbye to you, we started hearing some technical problems from you . this is a story about the fact that time is really not working for us and they will manage it. of course, accumulation is correct. i agree with mr. vitaly. this is not fatigue. maybe even from ukraine. this is fatigue from the fact that this war is quite difficult the burden is a heavy burden specifically for the voter and one way or another, macron is here and there, and in the end, every european politician and the deryan foundation

and scholz and biden are all connected to the hopes of their voters, and johnson, by the way . unfortunately, the dependence is really quite large and prices will rise. a lot of analysts and experts are talking about this, and people will understand the consequences of russian aggression on our territory in the same way. on sunday, i read quite an interesting article. curtains of the british he says that the west is all that clings to the opinion that it definitely can, why should we not go to war with russia, let ukraine do it, we will help it there, but it will win in the economic war, but what if the west is wrong, what if the russians are ready